I'm not sure how to explain this well. For one thing, I am mainly an introvert and I LOVE living alone. I get to come home from work, strip down to my underwear, play guitar wherever I want in the apartment, say stupid shit to myself, etc. On the other hand, I sometimes start getting lonely and sort of wish I had more friends and a more active social life. It's almost like I want good friends and a girlfriend that ONLY want to hang out on the weekends, but also are very good friends to me. Is anyone like this? And if so, how have you managed to balance this?
Edit: Thank you everyone for responding. I can't get around to responding to everyone, but I would like to let you all know that I very much appreciate you guys sharing your personal thoughts on the matter, as it makes me feel that I am not alone on this issue.
I would like to add another detail about my situation. There's also the fact that I have severe insomnia and I toss and turn in my sleep constantly, which makes it near impossible to be able to actually sleep in a bed with another person. I felt insanely uncomfortable with my last girlfriend for this very reason. Normally, I would toss and turn a bunch and if I couldn't sleep I would sometimes just get out of bed at like 4 or 5 a.m and start pacing around, play guitar, or just watch TV. I find that this would be nearly impossible if there was someone else here with me.
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I really just hate the commitment of having "good" friends. You have to constantly hang out them or you start to get swept under the rug. I wish there was a way to have good friends that you could hang out with a couple times a week max and still be considered good friends.
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I am a devoted extrovert and I agree wholeheartedly. I have moved a lot and thus have a large circle of friends where I've moved past the maintenance stage. You DO have to put some work in at the start though.
Totally agree, Me and the best friend group we normally hangout or talk after a week or two, sometimes after a month. And on meeting it's always normal, like we've known each other for years (literally and literary).
Those are not good friends. Those are needy leeches that just happen to be friendly.
I don't think that's totally fair. People grow older and their lives change - I don't think it's as much "getting swept under the rug" as much as it is "growing apart" in many instances.
While your observation is generally valid, I don't think that's what was being referred to here - or at lest not how I interpret it. A legitimately "good" friend would understand that you have challenges with social availability, and hang out with you when possible, but not make you feel pressured or abandon you.
But there are those who seem like good friends until you have some sort of problem or distraction from your normal social routines, and then they aren't there for you. What you thought was deep was actually only superficial. Those are the people I was referring to, but sometimes it's hard to tell the types apart - it's generally only something that comes with age and experience.
That's fair. I guess I got a different impression from the original comment. But I definitely agree with you that lots of people DO maintain superficial relationships until it's inconvenient for them.
I've found myself in the same boat in recent years. Slowly but surely they just dwindle away. I make attempts to connect which most of the time are unsuccessful. I think it's happening for two reasons. I am 30(M), married, no kids, and hold a great paying job. First, most of my good friends have had kids and end up living the "Dad" life so there's no time to devote to friends who don't have kids. The second reason is my friends who have not had kids are single, somewhat irresponsible, and I think they view my as the "guy with a wife" so I don't want to third wheel.
Sadly this second reason is what happened to the best man of my wedding. He moved back in with his parents and works at UPS despite holding a BA in engineering. I've been told that he feels ashamed of himself to want to hang out with me. I wish he could fucking understand I do not feel that way.
One of my other friends lives 1500 miles away and suffers from anxiety and depression so sometimes I may not hear from him for weeks, but I still talk to him as much as I can and make him feel welcomed in my life despite his slight immaturity. I still consider him my best friend.
So anyway, that's my current life situation right now lol.
Keep reaching out to your UPS friend even if you flat out have to tell him thereās no shame involved.
I'm in the same situation (married, no kids, and feel like I'm losing people a little on both sides). One thing I've found to be helpful is to make it clear that the kids are welcome. Not just "can you hang out? You can bring your kid if you have to" - but more like "hey, do you and the kids want to come grill out? I have a great beer to share, and I'd love some kids to make use of this sprinkler." Yeah, that changes the dynamic a little. And makes it a little less fun, if I'm being honest, just because it turns into like half babysitting. But if I have to choose between that and not seeing the parents at all, I'll pick that.
Thank you. Many of them have moved already, but I may try that with who remains.
I have an old friend from middle school I've known for 35+ years. He's got a very high IQ. Was the best player of a particular instrument in our school district, scored way high on SATs, etc.
He dropped out of band junior year, started hanging out with the stoners and decided to just have a fun life. Never married, no kids.
Guess what he does?
He works for UPS. He's happy with his life. Union job, good pay, good benefits. Once you reach a certain point of your life, the need to get ahead in a career gets less important and the need for quality life with good friends pushes to the forefront.
One of my siblings started at UPS. He worked his way up from loader to supervisor and then did computer stuff and now he's big in the company.
UPS is one of the best places he could be if he wants to make a career. Your friend has nothing to be ashamed of.
I just gave up my freedom and privacy and friends and got married. Just like dad.
You know, since this clearly isn't super uncommon, maybe you can find friends that want the same thing?
Friendships are like gardens. They take hard work and must be tended to regularly, or they wither and die.
You sound like an introvert. It's hard for an introvert to become "best friends" with an extrovert, simply for this reason. Introverts have tightly bonded relationships with a few people that might not even hang out for weeks or months at a time, whereas extroverts mainly hang around whoever is willing to come along for their adventures.
I don't agree solely based on anecdotal experience: I (an introvert) make friends with extroverts easily (I have 3 years experience retail and can make good small talk) and my SO is an extrovert (he's quiet and doesn't speak much in groups but is most definitely an extrovert). I think what you said is a bit of an overgeneralization of introverts and extroverts.
Me, too, but it never really lasts. I also dont have a vagina. As much as I would like to think that isnt a part of it, being female makes making friends, especially guy friends, a fuckton easier.
there is...you guys probably only hangout with nerds. hangout with some stoner friends you dont need to see them every day and they dont care
God, the number of arguements I've had with my therapist for wishing friends could be "on demand" is too damn high. Apparently it's all about the need to feel in control to avoid getting hurt and whatnot.
As someone who is in the exact same, it's tough shit to get through
If thatās what your therapist thinks, theyāre seriously overthinking it. Itās definitely about avoidance, but not that. Itās about not wanting to deal with other peopleās shit 24/7. Iām not worried about getting hurt, Iām worried theyāll want me to go out and do stuff when I just want to spend the weekend hanging out laundry and playing Xbox and gardening in the peace and quiet of my own thoughts.
Truly, friends are āon demandā. You call one when you need one. They call me when they need one. If theyāre really your friends they wonāt need constant maintenance. Those kind of friends? I got rid of a long time ago. š
I feel that, for sure...I've had friends leave/die or had to cut out for my health. Makes it really hard opening up to anyone new.
You two should become pen pals.
I'm only half being silly. Seriously, write each other letters and junk. If it goes well move up to texting and even maybe the occasional facetime.
I agree! Send each other care packages with stuff the other might like: food, cards, etc.