Iām in community college for my bachelors and working 5 days a week at a minimum wage job. I constantly have to tell people Iām too busy. Too busy to come to their houses for GOT, too busy to visit with my grandma. Iām too busy to go to my boyfriends parents house and have dinner. You get the idea.
Basically Iām either: - getting ready for work (shower+makeup+outfit+driving there=2 hours prior to my shift)
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at work
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at home after work eating/sleeping/shitting
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at school (the two days I have as a āweekendā are the two days I go to school)
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studying
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doing laundry, cleaning, grocery shopping, getting gas, etc
What I donāt get is, how are adults who work full time able to have full on lives with unique hobbies when I canāt even find time to visit my grandma for a day? I feel like itās just a given in the US that everyone is gritty enough to work 40 hours AND clean the house AND have a social life AND have a bunch of side hobbies that dictate your personality. Nobody ever questions it.
Even people who donāt go to school, itās like you only have 48 hours each week (Saturday and Sunday) to actually do what you want, and most people need time to clean and to relax and recharge before working the next week, right? Does everybody just go, go, go, go, all the time, never stopping to breathe?
I thought I would have more freedom and downtime as an adult...
Edit: thank you kind anon for the silveršš½
Honestly I've also been thinking about this for a while. It's so crazy that people wake up go to work come back with little time to do anything. And then have to wake up the next day to do it all again. I've started to get bored of this whole routine of working and school everyday and idk what to do.
It gets even worse if you have a typical office job where you only have about 20 hours of work per week, but are obligated to stay there for 40 hours a week. Just sitting at a desk thinking, "I could leave right now and it would probably take 2 days for anybody to notice."
Me rn. I work about 2 hours every day but have to stay and sit here for 8 hours. Sounds nice but actually really isn't.
I had a coworker who had very little work to do. She wrote 2 books and learned how to knit during her year in that position. We do have a very relaxed boss who understood she had very little to do though and didn't care that she found other things to occupy her time though.
She left after a year because she was tired of being bored all the time. She now has a very demanding position and is busy all the time and loves it.
Wow ā what kind of job is that?
I'd kill for that kind of position!
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God I wish I could get paid to do nothing. Tons of free time to work on my own shit, and getting paid to do it with a boss that approves so I don't even need to be watching over my shoulder? Goddamn dude XD
2 books in one year? She'd make Stephen King blush
Yeah, on the surface, it sounds super great. But then you get there and realize you're wasting your life for absolutely no reason other than getting paid and it's just an awful experience.
Only if you're actually wasting your time. If you're playing games or hanging on social media sure you're wasting your life. If you're using the time productively to reach your real career goals then it's awesome.
Better than working minimum wage and having to constantly work for 8 and a half hours for 8 hours of "pay"
And if you somehow finish all your work, you get to do others. Great incentive to work hard.
I started taking online classes to get out of said boring predicament. Itās like getting paid to go to college.
At least you're not destroying your body daily doing manual labor hoping today is the day you have the courage to waltz on to the i-15 during rush hour
Want to trade?
Its not a competition about whos life is worse, its about wishing life were better.
I'm just saying to this guy it could be worse, and it will be honestly
amen brother im 25 and i already have every day knee pain ill take sitting in an ac office any day
Start a side business and work on it during your 6h of āfree timeā
Brows r/beermoney and maybe you can also make some cash while youāre not doing anything
Thanks for the suggestions! I actually have my Master thesis to write so this is a great opportunity for me to get paid doing something useful on the side, I just lack motivation and concentration - I still have to answer the phone every once in a while and there are people walking in and out of the office (thatās why itās hard to do anything that requires listening or concentrated thinking etc).
Of course itās better than ruining your health by doing heavy lifting and other physical work but I went to college for 6 years and it kinda feels like I have so much more potential. I just wish I had a job where I would do normal amount of work and get a normal pay check contrary to now when I do zero work and basically minimum wage. (I am planning on doing something about it - my contract expires soon and I will be looking for another job!)
It becomes nightmare when you works on conveyor, like me. I make frying pans. Every fucking sinle 10 seconds... 12 years... There is no other job here... I really dont know when it finishes? When I die? Greetings from Russia.
Uuf not nice indeed! And another country?
Looking for ways to move to some scandinavia country.
Use this time to meal plan, make grocery lists, plan your day, week whatever.
It doesn't take 20-30 hours a week to make a meal plan or grocery lists.
Plan my day: Leave work at 5, work out, go home, eat dinner, go to bed.
Plan my week: Go to work.
God damn, this is me right now. Working in a bank with absolutely no work to do on a Friday. And I'm stuck here from 8-5. What a waste.
Read.
Internet.
Music.
Some of us don't get the luxury of "wasting" a bunch of hours a day. Don't squander it staring at a wall.
Imagine not getting called out for browsing the internet at work š
Yeah like I get manual labor is rough but some people are making it seem like you can run a seperate business in office. Yeah ok
I was in this situation, running a business while doing a light office job. Youād think itād be easy but the problem is you only get to do a fraction of a task at a time. Even though you might not have a ton of work, you canāt focus on a real task because then suddenly the phone rings, scan this, email this guy back.
And this is an office where no ones watching what I do and my boss wasnāt even there a lot. Canāt imagine this at a mid-size office.
I have an office job that gives me about 50-60 hours of work per week. As I am on Reddit now, I will be making up this time elsewhere, most likely cut away from my leisure, personal growth, and time with loves ones.
THIS!!! I wish you were able to go to a job, get your daily tasks done and leave if you wanted. I think it needs to be the norm for office jobs to get paid salary, and once your duties are done, people should get the option to leave.
Better than being an infantryman and only having 12 hours to finish in a 50 hour work week
Other side of that coin is being salaried, and expected to work 50+ hours a week with no overtime.
Wasn't always the case, my dad was working in computers back in the 80s he said they'd work crazy hours finishing up a big project and once it was done they'd basically do half days and take mondays fridays off, they were all salary, and thier boss wasn't at all concerned with the number of hours they worked, just that the job got done, so the 20%b of the time doing 80% of the job and 80% of the time doing 20% of the job ratio was fine.
It's better than having 100 hours of work to do and only 40-50 hours to do it in.
Enjoy your part time effort work while you can. Use that extra time to improve yourself and learn new things on your employers dime. It will pay off later when you don't have the time for self improvement.
Side hustle! Use that time to learn a skill you can shill online and make money while you make money!
What are these jobs? Every job I've had tries to cram 50 hours of work into a 40 hour shift.
Office jobs for large engineering companies, typically. I've been working as a grad student and have the same situation as you, and it's infinitely better than showing up to an office to stare at a wall. It sounds great, but it's pretty awful.
I can totally get how awful that would be. Just trying to find that happy medium I guess.
Working only 40 hrs a week would be a blessing.
Please give me a job that only requires 20 hours of work. I'm supposed to fit 12 hours into an 8 hours day, and squeeze that around meetings.
I currently work in a situation like that (grad student), and it's infinitely more rewarding than going to an office to stare at a wall.
Sounds like you should pursue a more fulfilling career.
Thatās how I felt!! Thatās why Iām glad I started my own business. I only do as much as needs to get done.
Thatās why Iām so not looking forward to finishing school and just working for the rest of my life. At least school keeps it interesting, something different happens every day.
Get a job, that offers a variation in days. Looking at spreadshits all day in the office, gets boring really, find something you actually enjoy doing, and it will make you smile everyday you go to work and be happy when you wake up.
Edit: I wrote further down I love spreadshits and office work, I work in logistics and management, I really love my job, and wouldn't trade it for anything else, I have had different careers during my 16 years on the job market.
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Very intended yes.. am office slave, does have several spreadshits, but I do love it though, I love data and analysis of such.
I work in the design field and I lovvvve making spreadsheets. Idk why, but whenever I get the chance itās so satisfying for me.
What sort of design field do you work in? Fashion design, game design, architectural design etc.
I was in a studio primarily focused on branding for awhile, but Iāve just recently moved over to ui/ux about a year and a half ago.
Yeah Iām a designer as well and spent a year doing business admin part time as a change of pace.
Very soothing. Boring as fuck some days, but I kinda enjoyed that... Just punched the numbers into the sheets/entered orders/whatever and listened to podcasts and didnāt have to be so constantly intensely engaged. When I left for the day, I wasnāt thinking about the work at all. If I stayed late it was to help a coworker get stuff done, not because of some demanding client or because my project manager over scheduled me.
Itās so nice right? Idk how to describe it, itās not like turning your brain off, but kind of nice to know āthis is correct, and I can easily fact check itā rather than the sometime vague answers of design.
YES.
I barely even get to just apply established branding to anything anymore... Always new projects, initial concept and design phases... Which, donāt get me wrong, is fun and part of why this field appealed to me.
But goddamn. The constant, unrelenting uncertainty is draining.
Yeah, that used to kill me. What helped me a lot was having super tight moodboard around a concept and taking the client all through the conceptual parts before we touched sketches, then itās an approved idea that just needs execution. Ux strategy has a bunch of great strategies that can really help with branding concepts if youāre ever interested in that sort of thing.
The whole ābeing a corporate drone is soul destroying, wake up sheepleā is pointless propaganda just as much as āget a good job and a mortgageā is.
Just do what you love and makes you happy.
If thatās getting a 9 to 5 as an accountant so you can go home to your family and read your children bedtime stories, do that. If itās moving to Nepal and become a hermit up some picturesque mountain peak, do that instead.
I quit small firm lawyering to take a sales position at a multinational corporation. It's not as constantly stimulating as a law job, but it pays the bills and I don't have to take work home with me.
I look at spreadsheets and smile-and-dial all day, but the continuous improvement programs keep it from ever getting truly boring. And when I walk out the door at 5:30, my time is mine.
There are lots of different ways to be happy at work.
Weird I quit small firm lawyering to be a Nepali mountain hermit. Couldn't quite give up wifi though.
Wait so you just live in your monk's basement and play on the internet all day?
His monk hates this guy
basically
But some people canāt just ādo what they love.ā Some people love music, and itās hard to make a career out of that without having connections. Some people like photography but itās hard to make a living off that. I understand that some people love science and math, but what about the people that donāt? People that love art have no choice but to become an office slave and be miserable for the rest of their lives
Iām not sure how you think your point somehow contradicts mine. I never mentioned feasibility, I only talked about social pressures and inherent vs perceived value of a job.
My point was that no job is āsoul destroyingā per se. Itās all relative to oneās interests and priorities.
If you love art but are doing corporate work (regardless of the reason why), youāre not doing what you love, so of course you will be miserable. That doesnāt mean that a corporate job is inherently bad, though.
Poster before you missed the point of "do what you love"...
Love music, too shitty to make a career out of it performing, apply to work at a musical instrument store. Look for work at an events company rigging PA systems and lighting, get a free music concert, every day you work.
Love painting, too crappy to exhibit, apply for work at the Art Musuem's Cafe, make connections with the curator, get a job for rigging and derigging art installations - network with artists.
Love acting, too shitty to be on stage, become a stage hand, light operator, prop maker, anything in theatre...
Basically what I understand from "do what you love" is work in the field that piques your interest, start at the bottom, pay your dues and make your way up the ladder.
I've met people who turned their passion into a career/job and it ended up making them hate it. I had experience with it myself as well. When you do what you love in your free time you are completely in control of how long you're doing it, when you do it and how you do it, but when you make it your job you lose that control because you're now at the mercy of your boss/clients/whomever. IMO it's better to make a mild interest of yours a job and keep your true loves separate from your career.
Works for some. I literally am qualified with a degree to do what I love, every single day.
Sure I hate my job some days, other days I love it immensely.
I'd rather do what I love, than be a cashier or sales rep, because then I would hate my job, every single day.
This is valid. Itās not the same for everyone, and it definitely depends on the thing you love, and what it is about it that you love.
All jobs get boring and have some level of drudgery involved, so I can see how your favorite thing can stop being your favorite when it becomes āworkā and your means for survival.
Yeah thatās why I went to uni instead of art school and itās a struggle every day but at least I can afford a pretty good lifestyle. I worry every day about my retirement because I live in one of the most severely unaffordable housing markets in the world but Iād be on the breadline even if I was a proficient artist right now. Being a mediocre office worker will always pay better and provide me at least with some measure of financial security.
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Yeah you got it exactly right!
In any career in the arts, how good you are is only the beginning. Connections and the ability/willingness to move to a large city and wait tables all night/day are bigger factors.
The top of the ladder for all but a lucky view is a day job you hate, while teaching private classes and/or playing bar gigs in a covers band/appearing in local dinner theater/selling pencil sketches of people's dogs and babies.
Working full time in a senior position in both the film and television space, having started from the bottom, as an intern, I agree that it does depend on who you know and networking very well, and that it does depend on your skill set, knowledge, creativity and most importantly your work ethic - that's what builds your reputation.
However, being aware of all your limitations is something that needs to be considered, if you are not skilled enough or talented enough to fill up Albert Hall on any night of the week, take a job behind the mixing desk, or at least work your way into that position.
I have my other passions that fill up my free time, and there's a lot of them and not enough free time. I could most likely turn 2 out of those into a fully fledged career and the rest I would be horrible at.
It's noble to make a career out of a passion, the thing though that stops most people, is that they don't put in the hours to develop their skillset and work on ways to enhance their creativity. Talent needs to be there and work ethic, and then you're all set, with the right connections being made.
That assumes there is a wide enough job market to make that an option though, or that you have the freedom to take a job with less-than-optimal pay of hours just because it will make them happier.
My city has food service, hospital work, call centers, some retail, and manufacturing. There is virtually no entertainment industry, the only art gallery of any kind closed down, wages are invariably awful, and many people are forced into whatever job they can take because they have to be able to afford to live and eat. Most people I talk to feel trapped here because it's too expensive to even move away.
Your sentiment is great, and might work in a bigger city, or without much for financial or familial obligation, but it isn't a real, viable option for everyone.
I hear you, but me being in a third world country, with strikingly high rates of poverty, where 30 million people live below the national poverty line; it definitely hasn't stopped many potential creatives and people who want to dabble with the arts, pickup only their worldly possessions and try make it in the big time - there are quite a few success stories, and then there are the behind the scenes guys who make this happen who all have the same backstory.
They come from rural villages, having lived in a hut for most of their lives, walking to school, getting their only meal of the day there, coming home and herding livestock for the rest of the day, and maybe getting a meal that night if one of the family members with a job sends some money, or a government grant paid out.
Why do so many of these people I have met in my industry with this similar backstory always succeed? They just took a chance and risk for something potentially better than they currently have, learnt as much as they could on the job and had/have immense pressure to succeed to carry on supporting their families and communities back in the village.
Maybe in a first world country money is an obstacle for chasing your dreams, but I know many guys and gals that would give you a counter argument of that not stopping them, some sleeping on the streets, others in homeless shelters, some busking on the streets to make money and ending up with regular gigs in a bar, some hanging around sets just asking questions, later on being a cable basher, and then a grip. It's determination and sacrifice.
I agree that money and relocation, to remain in a comfortable living position or comfort zone is a serious drawback and obstacle, but for some I have seen that doesn't get in the way.
No risk, no reward.
My point is that if you have health issues, or children, or family members who depend on you financially to actually survive, living homeless or in absolute poverty can be a non-option, or even a death sentence. You can make that choice for your self, but in many people's situations, the ramifications it has on others around them are prohibiting.
If you are already living in poverty, uncertain of where your next meal is coming from, then risking living homeless in poverty and not knowing where your next meal is coming from for the sake of a dream is, well, not much risk at all. If you have people who depend on you, risking that is kind of a big deal.
Very fair point my good sir/madam.
This may be a practical, realistic interpretation of "do what you love," but it's not the common interpretation in my experience. That would be something more akin to, "Do what you would do for free, but find someone to pay you for it." This is maybe the worst pop psychology advice ever invented, along with "never go to bed angry."
I don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me?
But yeah I think pop psychology is bullshit because it's not realistic. The one that kinda pisses me off is how people say you shouldn't have everything figured out in your 20's, drop that responsibility and go travel for the next 2 - 5 years across Europe. Completely fucking up your CV with gaps in employment and absolutely earning no experience in your career field of choice, setting you back 15 years.
What would make sense from a realistic and ideal point of view is if you live in a country that gives you paid vacation days as a set number and it's not frowned upon to take them and actually encouraged to take them(unlike what I hear happens in the USA) then financial management and planning skills can come into effect to hit a double whammy of working a career and travelling during your vacation. I know it can't really happen in the USA but I feel some young people take the Christopher McCandless to Alexander Supertramp transition route and really screw their future up if they aren't a trust fund child. I have seen this happen to a few friends and aquantices where they had a college fund to study pretty much anywhere and anything, but opted to use that money to travel, and now they wait tables or are barmen where they could have been Engineers, Doctor's or Lawyers by now, but instead they are scraping by. It's kind of sad hearing them complain, but they did it to themselves.
I was agreeing with you, but pointing out that your understanding of, "do what you love" doesn't align with what a lot of people seem to think that phrase means.
But 80 percent of jobs are either sitting behind a cash register, packing the shelves, calling people desperately trying to make sales or a complicated and stressful ā professional jobā that requires constant dedication. Also there are a lot of hungry people in the world with no Job.
I worked in a machine shop.
After a year of being sent out to refit factories where the rest of the 5 man team did very little work because I was in my early 20's and they were all over the age of 55. If someone on the shop floor wanted my attention they would yell BITCH and not adress me any other way.
It taught me some of my limits and good skills, but some jobs you're better off not working.
Yes you may not always be able to turn your passion into a job. But that doesn't mean that you can't still work a job you enjoy. You don't have to give up one for the other, you can still love music and work an office job and still enjoy doing both.
I found a career that pays enough to live on, and it's one that I love. For me, cosmetology was a good way to combine art and working with people in a way that makes me happy. Even thought it's not always fun, I don't dread going to work each day. For an artistic person, it isnt necessarily easy to find a job you'll like. I do realize this. But its not impossible if you look at everything with an open mind.
that person has probably never gone a day hungry in their life, they have no clue what it's like
One of my high school friends was able to buy a house at 22 with the money she made in photography.
Itās not just about something you ālike,ā itās about the thing you like and can handle what it takes to monetize it.
Itās not hard to make a career out of music, unless you are only trying to be a recording artist and make obscene amounts of money. If youāre proficient, you can teach lessons and play gigs and make a perfectly fine living.
I donāt even understand the having connections thing. Every single way to make money requires you to have connections. Most people arenāt exactly born with these connections. You meet other people doing things related to what you enjoy, and you start to make your own connections.
A friend of mine who loves art is a creative writing instructor and actually started her own nonprofit theatre organization.
Another friend is a professional jewelry maker.
A friend who loves books became a librarian and became a specialist in one particular area.
Another friend is a novelist, but he also supports himself by having climbed the ladder at a local company. Heās not a slave. The money he makes there supports his family and the rest of his pursuits.
Another friend is an actor who works in commercials and small films. He does fine.
If you love art, you have to learn more about both what you love about it and how money is made in the art you love. You donāt have to be an artist by trade to be surrounded by art and able to have the flexibility to practice it yourself.
Itās just not true that artists are doomed to be corporate slaves.
This is really inspiring. Thank you. However, itās also hard when you have family that donāt really understand. I have immigrant parents that had to work hard to get here and once they did, it was non stop labor. So naturally, they saw college and office jobs as the only way to get out of that. They donāt see art as a way to make money because back in their country, there wasnāt much opportunity in that.
Again, thank you for this, itās really inspiring. Iām graduating hs in a couple weeks and I still have no idea what to do with my life and Iām really scared. I feel like Iām doomed to end up like most people, someone with a 9-5 that makes my life miserable. I see art as a way to escape that but I still donāt know if I should pursue it
Warning, super long stuff. Sorry!
People tend to forget that you can make a fine living doing all sorts of things. Iām in my late 30s, and if I knew then what I know now, I would have become an electrician or a plumber, or gone into some other trade. Maybe it wouldnāt have been for me, But I definitely have a different view of those jobs as an adult.
So many of the more specialty areas Are a dying skill and highly valued. That stuff was looked down on when I was graduating, but they are the ones making bank right now. I have a bachelorās degree in an area that was interesting but just checked off the ācollege educationā box on the temp job applications I filled out after graduation.
The guy that took a tree out of my yard started trimming trees on his own at 15 and just never stopped. He has a crew and his own business and literally sets his own hours. He has more jobs than he can ever do, so heās not hurting at all and enjoys it.
I guess what Iām saying is that there are endless ways to do life, and no one seems to fully explain that when you are first starting out.
Whatever you do, do everything in your power not to go into debt. Thereās nothing wrong with doing things slower, or spending two or three years doing grunt work (yes, even in a cubicle) to give yourself a foundation. Learn to support yourself and budget as quickly as possible. Make a game of living as lean as possible and put a little of each paycheck somewhere you canāt get to it.
I was in such a rush at 22 to have the life my early millennial friends and our gen x older siblings were told we should have, I just could not see how long life really is. Donāt rush into the āhouse, the car, the spouse, and the Pinterest-pretty life.ā
Have adventures and make mistakes.
Oh! Another friend of mine spent most of his time after high school just working in restaurants in interesting places and spending a lot of time outdoors. He just graduated college a couple years ago, bought a car and went on a solo cross-country road trip before getting a job. Heās in a job in tech that he really enjoys now, and he has all that experience surviving to fall back on if times get tough.
Iām glad this is inspiring you. Iām actually kind of inspiring myself now!
Enjoy your life, take opportunities even if youāre uncertain about if you can hack it. Failure actually IS an option, and it will take you places you canāt even imagine right now. Ask people who work with the kind of art that interests you what itās like and donāt worry about proving yourself, just learn and youāll figure out if itās right for you.
Okay, Iām shutting up now. So long, and thanks for all the fish!
I hear ya, Watercolor is what Iām trying to eke out a couple hours a week in now around an average wage 9-5 job, a sad relationship and a limited social life, and itās painfully slow going on all fronts because I just donāt have the time or the energy to fully engage in at any of it.
The point is to find a job that allows you to pursue that stuff as well. It's the whole concept of leisure time. You get a job and work, get paid enough to live and then in a perfect world have benefits and such. And then work your 40-50 hours and spend all the rest of your time pursuing whatever you want. I'm not the biggest fan of my job but it's the only one I need and I can do anything else on the side that I could want and maybe eventually move on
Agreed except one point. Every accountant I know works longer hours than 9-5, especially at month, quarter and year end. They get paid well, but thatās just part of life.
I am an accountant and I can tell you your experience is not representative of everyone elseās. It depends on what type of accountant you are, the firm you work at, and the country youāre in. Iāve worked with hundreds of accountants and most of then were on 9.30am - 4.30pm.
US, publicly traded company. It might not be every company, but this is what I hear from most accountants, whether they work for the Big 4, or theyāre corporate. Not everyone works crazy hours, but theyāre definitely not 9-5, M-F. Accounting Managers have better hours, but they worked their way up and did those hours along the way.
US publicly traded companies are possibly the worst place for working hours. I worked as a Big 4 auditor in the UK with all sorts of clients (FS or industry) and literally no accountant stayed past 5pm. It was the bane of our existence.
Since Reddit is majority US, thatās why I warned people the hours arenāt always 9-5. Iāve heard the same about the Big 4 here.
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You spend most of your life time working your job so it'd better something be that you actually like doing, is my thinking
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If only we didn't have that damn concept of "money."
You'd most likely enjoy the sub r/dataisbeautiful then
I do data analysis and enjoy it also. Up until now i figured i was wierd since no one else i know can look at numbers and spreadshits all day lol i love reddit..
I am so sharing this with my analyst friends.
So you're a gossip
I hate this advice. Every time a similar question comes up someone always advises finding a job that the person enjoys doing/loves. This is simply not possible for everyone to accomplish and it is unlikely most people will be able to do this. Of course a bunch of anecdotal posts will fall in saying they have their dream job like it's possible or everyone.
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Agreed, the thing is not everyone has a dream job.
Exactly. I can't think of anything that I love enough to consider my "dream job", and if I did, I wouldn't want to make it my career.
I love dogs, and I love walking my dog. So much so that when I was younger I figured "dog walking business!"
Turns out, when I have to do the thing I love, it turns into another chore and I no longer want to do it for fun.
My future career isn't my dream job, but it's something that interests me and I already have certain goals I'm determined to meet. I hope that'll be enough.
All work ends up as work. Even if it's something you enjoy.
I've had my dream job and it was rewarding. Is it easy and something i jump out of bed to gleefully do? No. It's still a job with its own suckiness.
In general I find more entertainment and joy in just doing something and the people I work with than what I actually do.
If you can find something you really love then that's great, but even if you can't there's joy to be had in just helping a customer at walmart or any other crap job. I sold mattresses and vacuums at sears when I was a kid. It was a crap job that paid commission (pretty good actually). Is that anyone's life dream? No, well I don't think so anyway. It was still fulfilling in that I got to help people make sometimes pretty large purchases on things they had little to no knowledge about. I worked in construction and landscaping as well. Just "building" something with your own labors and seeing the results is incredibly rewarding. I wouldn't consider any of these to be dream jobs.
I wasn't curing aids or building spaceships, but I was helping people all the same which was rewarding enough.
I know the feeling. I grew up around kids that loved certain things and wanted to do specific jobs but I never had any feelings like that. A coworker from my last job talked about how he was hoping to start building some furniture and maybe make that a business and he was twice my age. I just couldn't comprehend that kind of passion. I understand so.e people have it but I've never felt it.
Man, same. I teach at a school district and today the seniors had a day where the whole district gathered in the gym (very small district) to watch the seniors sign their college acceptance letters as someone narrates what the senior is going to do after high school.
There were seniors who were going into all sorts of fields, from vet tech to the military to border patrol, and I just thought āI had zero fucking clue what I wanted to do when I was a seniorā. I have never had āthat one careerā in mind, not ever. Even now as a teacher of five years, it feels like Iāve settled and am heavily contemplating a career swap.
But what the hell would I do as a job? I donāt want to do anything. Any of my hobbies would instantly become resented by me if I somehow turned them into a job. I have no interest in any position, so all thatās left is to try to find a job I can competently do and forget about when I go home. Which is basically impossible to just pick-and-choose in this day and age.
Iām also single and have zero support anywhere near me, so Iām basically having to self-motivate to get through anything, but when you donāt fucking care about yourself, what fuels the motivation then?
Iāve known all my life that all Iāve ever wanted is to get married and become a dad, but Iām nowhere even remotely near reaching that goal. What the fuck is the point? I canāt even stick with a job I donāt want to die because of. How could I possibly go meet people if I donāt think Iām worth meeting in the first place?
Exactly. The other day I was helping my niece with her math homework, she asked me if I had anything I wanted to be when I was her age, a dream job. It was kinda depressing to tell her I didn't lol and still don't.
Agree.
Also because of the money. You could do whatever you love but that doesn't mean you get enough money to live well. A lot of artist did what they love and die sick and homeless.
One could say that at least they did not died in life in a boring souless job but good luck thinking that way and you also want to get married and have children. It is simply very risky.
Well, that's when you have to weigh the options between your want to be happy by art or through family. Personally, as an artist, I would much prefer through art and everything else extra come next. However I do balance my art with work because I can be happier for longer and create good art for longer if I'm alive.
It's not always possible to find your "dream job" but I don't think it's hard to find a job you enjoy. You probably won't wake up and be like "I LOVE WORK" but you can still find joy and feel accomplished in something you do.
I work in IT, I didn't dream about working in IT, I don't think a lot of people do, I didn't even study IT in school, I did business stuff. I was scraping for work and I just took the first thing that was offered to me. It's not my hobby, it's not my dream job but I genuinely enjoy my work. I think I consider myself kindda lucky but I've also worked jobs that I really hated.
You may not get everything you want in life but it doesn't mean you can't be happy with what you have.
Exactly. For starters, the OP said nothing about hating their job or anything other than having time out of work. Just because you like your job doesn't mean the house is going to clean itself lol
Agreed. I don't hate my job but with work responsibilities and commute I'm gone almost 11.5 hrs a day. And this is some how socially acceptable and if you complain you're the bad guy or lucky cuz someone else has it worse. My kids would like to see me around more than an hour in the evenings and on weekends
Meanwhile look around the house at all the shit you gotta do and keep yourself together. Lol my biggest problem is not cussing and muttering under my breath and simply being grumpy and accidentally getting snippy with my Wife for no reason other than I'm tired.
I agree, but I think you meant anecdotal
Thanks for catching that
agreed
I HATE when people say this to me. "Find a job doing something you love!" Uh.. I don't have tiimmeee to even find out WHAT I love! Oh, is it THAT simple? Really?
Thatās why we need a UBI so we donāt have to work and we can do what we love. For me that would probably be video games
Totally agree! Find a job that provides for your basic needs with people who you donāt want to strangle every waking minute and youāve done half of it. Then get out and enjoy that little 48hr slot of freedom with the spare cash you can save. There are just so many expectations of everyone to be the perfect and do everything and have everything. It is making us all completely miserable. Itās not about being 100% happy 100% of the time and that shouldnāt be your goal because youāll just feel like somethings wrong with you if you feel anything but euphoria all day every day.
When you find a job where you can actually add value and get recognition from your work, you enjoy that feeling. You donāt necessarily have to love your job, you just need to be good at it, ask for feedback, and make yourself known as someone who offers value. As someone in working in a shitty rural area with only older white men, nobody my age, I still donāt mind going to work everyday because I enjoy offering my opinion and helping solve our problems, even though I really donāt even like my job.
Iāve worked a few different places and this one is probably the best advice, although having friends at work is huge for me. One job I had a ton of friends, but hated the work and it balanced out and made it enjoyable but also boring.
Now, I do different shit all the time every day, walk around a lot for my job, and i think Iām good at it and I offer a lot of efficiency with computers and completing several tasks because Iām younger and more advanced with technology. But I have no fucking friends at work. But being good at something and not being afraid to offer my opinion has made me enjoy it.
Youāre right people will rarely love their job. But itās not all bad
Well it sure as hell is, if you work towards finding something you love doing then you can get that job.
If you love helping people with their problems, and are a great listener then you CAN become a psychologist or therapist to help people. Sure it takes hard work and it requires something of yourself, you need to work to achieve something like that.
Finding something you love doing is easy. Getting toned it, may require some hardship, nothing comes easy.
So?
Sadly, this is only temporarily true. Eventually if you do something you enjoy for work, you will come to resent it. You fundamentally cannot merge your enjoyment/leisure interests with your work.
Instead, look for something to do where you will be satisfied with what you have accomplished when you look back on it all in the short and long term.
i think that depends on the person though, some people can turn passions into lucrative careers, others find the grind of it all to suck the fun out of the passion/hobby itself
That is probably true. I was just recalling a study from a few years back where they found that 2/3 of people who were doing what they enjoyed, ended up not enjoying it after only a couple years.
So, youāre right. It does depend on the person, but it is safe to assume that someone likely would end up not enjoying their passion as work given a supermajority ended up in that boat.
you know maybe this is why a lot of people āsettleā for jobs. like i want to be a professional actor... but i find the self managing very boring tedious and life sucking. i just wanna act and have fun.
thereās this huge thing with people around my age where you HAVE to follow your passion, and if you donāt why are you alive?
but in reality we have passions and hobbies first and foremost to get fulfillment from life. to have fun. second would be to pay the bills, and tbh itās really hard and life draining to take whatever is your escape... and treat it like a job, because once you put away the pencil and step outside your ācubicleā you canāt go and escape in your hobby... because you were just doing that.
sorry iām using your comment to think out loud and sort my life out lol thanks
Not a problem. It seems your plight is one many of us have or will go through.
That honestly depends how you look at it, if you consider something you love doing as a chore or forced to do, then yes I agree it may turn sour.
But doing something you thoroughly love and enjoy doing wether being independent or for someone else actually matter a lot.
Job/work satisfaction, the work you love most, feelings of professional fulfillment, are all very poor substitutes for financial freedom. If I didn't have to work, I would get up whenever, run in the park, read and picnic after, maybe stroll into the office for an hour or so to pick up some professional fulfillment, and then go to the grocery store to spend my evening cooking and playing chess and spending time with loved ones.
Signed, racing rat 15 years into the job of my dreams.
100% percent agree with you there. Financial freedom is the most important thing in a job. That said, in search of financial freedom, Iām arguing satisfying work is more important than enjoyable work.
If you need your paycheck, you don't have financial freedom. Basically none of us would replicate our professional and career choices and work as much as we do if we had financial freedom.
You're confusing getting paid to do a hobby with enjoying what you do for work. I can't make stuff in a laboratory they way I can at work. But I enjoy science so I enjoy my job.
Turning my widget making hobby into a full time job, however, would get old quickly.
I disagree. People have turned hobbies into their job, a lot of people keep that passion. For example, I know a lot of people who program at work and then go home and work on a personal project. I, on the other hand, keep that far from me when I'm at home. I don't resent it at all, I enjoy it but I just have different hobbies.
Just to offer a counter perspective, I have had a few different jobs but my current role is mostly spreadsheets and analysis (Power BI and soon Tableau), and Iām the happiest at work Iāve ever been. My employer is pretty focused on employee satisfaction, and my boss is really great. If I need time off for a family thing, no problem. If I want a vacation week, no problem, as long as my work gets done.
TL;dr Find a career that stimulates your mind, pays well enough to live, and an employer that understands work/life balance. Itās a tough proposition but office jobs can be very rewarding.
Yeah itās all so easy!
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Wish it was that easy to find something I liked doing. Most of the stuff I'm even sorta considering going back to school for, aside from taking a few years of schooling (and not guaranteeing it's what I think it will be), the actual Feild has not a lot of jobs available.
Meaning I would still have to work a normal full time min wage job, when also pulling my hair out trying to get into the Feild I would want.
Dude, you know yourself how "possible" this is.
Yes, I know how possible this is all my jobs has involved in one way or form working and communicating with people. Which is what I enjoy.
Then lucky you, but what I would love is something which is either paying me too little or I would suffer from a lot of health issues.
I could essentially just hook up with a rich Chinese and get married and not worry about money again and spend all my time on music.
The hell kind of office job is this?!
There general consensus on 'find something you enjoy doing' is alright until you realise people are not paying you to cuddle their puppies or your hobbies (unless you are really, really good).
The only real way to find something you enjoy is to start it up yourself or once in a blue moon find an opportunity.
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I am a single parent, I got a 8 to 4 job Monday to Thursday a 8 to 2 Friday, kids are delivered at 7 and picked up and home 4:45, then make dinner be done eating 6:30 get ready for bed tuck in kids, around 7:30 and then make lunch for tomorrow and get their backpacks and clothing ready. Fall asleep at around 9:30 or 10 PM myself, rinse repeat
What is with your comma usage? I thought you were CommaHorror at first.
Not English native I guess. Sorry.
I have no idea what school you go to but school was the mist mind numbingly boring, soul sucking thing I have ever been forced to do. Work is 1000x more stimulating for me.
I was referring more to the social aspect of school, as in the whole school experience, not just the learning/studying itself.
Adult life tends to be more routine and more settled down... but it doesn't have to be.
In school, there is a rule book.
Do x --> get grade --> graduate.
It's simple. Everyone around you is on the same path, and you know what you need to do every single day. But it's a predefined path. You end up in the same place as everyone around you.
Adult life has no rule book (except laws... and you can choose to break these if you really want to). There's a weird contradiction because living a life without rules comes with increased responsibility. It's harder... but more free. It's awesome... but sucks.
If your life is uninteresting as an adult, it's your fault. You can go do whatever you want.
I have the opposite. I hated going to school with every part of my being. I ended up anxious and borderline depressed. Since I started working I feel amazing. I do my job then go home and enjoy my free time and the money I earned without having to worry about exams or homework
Stay in scool as long as you can. I finally guaduated with my 4 year, I'm about to go back for my masters. The sole reason really is just so I won't have to work as much for a couple years.
Yup Iām doing my degree in 4 and a half, so are most of my friends. None of us really mind taking a liiiiitle bit longer to finish school.
Today's my last day of undergrad and I'm like ... what do I have to look forward to. A 40+ hour a week job with 2 weeks a year of vacation if I'm lucky? Makes me want to keep being a server but I hate people, so..
Exactly man. Thatās what I mean. It just seems that with school (Iām in undergrad too), you have so much freedom to mess around even though youāre swamped with homework and exams. Once youāre done school it just seems like all of that disappears and your life revolves around working.
Depending on the job, you also have something interesting to learn/do each day.
There are plenty of jobs out there that can keep you on your toes and aren't so terribly monotonous. Maybe it's time you look for something more challenging.
Look into r/financialindependence
The concept of FIRE is amazing
Hers some advice as a mid thirtysomething. Find a job where you "get to do" rather than "got to do" it will be rewarding, enjoyable, and you wont feel as if you only have 48 hours to liflve your life. The reality is we spend a tone of time at work so make it feel as if you are luck to get to be able to do what you do. Build work relationships and a network of like minded people. Opportunities will always be presenting themselves for those get to things. This is something I wish I had learned in my 20s.
I wish I didnāt go beast mode & finish school so early. Life fucking SUCKS.
It's not that bad. You need to invest time into finding hobbies, or a side-gig you enjoy. Life doesn't slow down much as you think or is boring after school, but its what you make it.
Yeah your job will also be interesting and challenging if you do it right...
Become a teacher ! :)
Good thing my retirement plan is with taurus, make sure you aim for the back of your head where the brain stem is, people survive gsw to the head more than you think because of ignorance of anatomy
I work in hotels. I fell into it by accident and love it. You never know what you're walking in to. Might have to evict someone tomorrow. Or maybe a tornado is gonna happen later tonight. I thrive on the craziness of every day.
Everything happens for a reason...
School is far more boring and miserable than a good career.
Work a while. Save hard. Buy Stocks. Buy home with mortgage cheaper than youāre rent. Save the difference. Airbnb extra rooms. Buy another home to rent. Buy another home to rent. Rent your current home and move to a foreign country and travel the world with your new income. Takes 5 years.
Become a teacher!
I have far more free time with my job than I did in school. I am home by 5 nearly every day, which leaves 6 hours before bed to do whatever I want. Meanwhile, in school I had homework and studying.
Work isn't just a routine of doing the same thing every day (well, it depends I guess). Work can be interesting. Different things can happen every day. You learn a lot working too, much more than anything I have ever learnt at school.
Nice try, boss.
Depends on the field of work though.
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Can you describe your day-to-day job and the path you took to get there? Sounds interesting
Donāt be. 28/m here. Been in the workforce for 6 years, in that time Iāve taken on competitive cycling, climbing, lifting, traveling and been to Europe twice, going again this year as well. I rock climb after work, ride my bike, meet up with friends, coffee shops, go to breweries. Life post college has been 100x better than college. I work 40/hrs a week and have more money and freedom than I did back then. You just canāt settle into that post work/relax on the couch routine. That will eat you up and spit out years and wonder where they went. Delete Netflix, drop the video games, get out there, make connections, make more friends. Life is long and beautiful when you are out there pushing yourself. Life flies by when you sit and waste it away.
Unfortunately you gave up your options when you decided to attend college, unless it was free for you, your gonna have to work a long time to pay it off.
Not American bruh š
You can get a job where something different happens every day
You don't have to work the rest of your life if you make good money choices. Many people learn to spend what they earn, no matter the amount If you can spend your 20s really saving away decent money as much as possible and investing in an index fund you can make a serious dent in your retirement age.
In my opinion, itās all about time management and multi tasking. If you cook, you might aswell make six portions instead of one. Cook two or three times per week, not seven times. When you go to the store, pick up everything you need for the week. Make a list so that you can be in and out quickly and only buy what you need. When you are cleaning, make sure to also do some laundry (if possible) and other tasks that needs doing.
Maybe your morning routine can be shorter? āSavingā time on regular tasks adds up and may make it possble to go to that movie or visit a friend.
Making plans with friends och family ahead of time may make it easier to manage your time.
Also, have realistic expectations regarding your free time. I would love to do more than I am but time does not allow it. Do not dwell on that, make plans according to the time you have, not the time you want to have.
Make sure that you do what you must first, work, school, cooking etc. Itās easy to put something off until the last minut instead of doing it right away.
Lastly, invite people over to your place, id possible.
Good luck!
This, but also, itās about prioritization. Sometimes itās okay to let the laundry go undone so you can go see your grandma.
Please, for the love, go see your grandma.
While I do agree with most of what you've said - I have personally found that as soon as I begin to make shortcuts on shit then everything falls apart around it.
For example I would often be out of the house from 5am to probably around 6 or 7pm so I didn't really have a huge amount of time after I got home to eat and shower before i needed to go to sleep. However I personally thought that cooking everyday was important to me because as soon as I stopped making a point of doing that I kinda stopped giving a shit about what I ate. And when you work huge hours and don't sleep much food is basically the only thing you're relying on to keep you going.
That said, I just did this to maintain some level of order in my life. It wasn't necessary at all.
Oh I would not advocate shortcuts, only to try and make the most of your time. If you have a narrow amount of time, in my opionion, it is better to cook for several days than to cook everyday.
I agree that food is important, thus it is easier to make time to cook a few times rather than many. It still requires some level of dedication and planning, but all time managing does and this is a great way to notice that by doing more somwtimes you have more time on other days.
Sorry if that was not clear :)
That's alright, I probably should have pointed out that what I was saying wasn't just specific to cooking. Rather that trying to streamline the processes in order to be more efficient can sometimes lead to you becoming lazy instead of more productive
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Must be nice to be able to afford the education
I have always admired the nurses in my family who work only 3 days a week. I imagine the pace makes things go by pretty quickly too.
Isnt that only 36 hours though?
I've been doing it a long time and it really is fucked. The only way it could be made better is if we had three days off every week.
This is the exact reason why I dropped my job as an electrician and seized to continue with my electrical engineering degree. I began making just enough money from side work and motorcycle projects to keep me afloat and at once, I began pursuing a career as a helicopter pilot. I always loved aviation and I have discovered schedules such as week on, week off once a more experienced pilot. Granted, finances are tight but I am happier than ever.
Find a way and run with it. At times you'll be surprised at how well things could work.
I live in Nova Scotia. Wages suck but houses are dirt cheap, my house is a 400 meter walk from my office building, both of which are 1000 meters from the ocean. Makes for a laid back lifestyle.
After years of schooling coming home without homework I literally don't know what to do with all my extra time (in grad school so still have it occasionally.)
Every single day I literally get a little closer to walking out the back door and jumping on to the freeway behind my work
When I take out the trash I joke like "how convenient, when I'm done for the day I can just jump on the freeway and say fuck it"
Hopefully soon I can work up the courage to get drunk enough to do it
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You ok over there buddy?
This. Every day. You worded it perfect, Iām in the same boat. What can we do for real?
I dont see how people find time to go to the gym on top of all this. I'm tired of being told to make time for it. If I have to choose between getting two more hours of sleep or go to the gym, I'm going to sleep 99 times out of 100
My husband and I work full time. He is also in school full time- three nights a week from 5-8:30. Weāve got two kids and they get good grades. We just got back from a week in SoCal. We ski about 40 times each season, golf a lot, both my girls are in drama programs... and make it to my in-laws once a week for dinner. Weāve also got a full grown lab and just got another puppy. Weāre fuckin BUSY. The only way it works is if everyone pitches in. From the time we get up to the time we go to bed we are doing something. We donāt have a defined set of everyoneās responsibilities- it just that if something needs to be done and youāre not using your hands you get to it. The motivation is that we love the hobbies. Those are our down time, so we all do our part to make it happen.
I did internships, worked, and completed two majors in college. When I got out and started working around 50-60 hours a week, I had more time to enjoy life since my college schedule was essentially wake up, go to class/study between classes, internship, and then 2-3 ten hour shifts between Friday and Sunday.
However, I have an acquaintance that majored in a relatively easy major, didnāt work, and didnāt do any extracurricular activities, so she felt her after college work life was soul sucking.
I guess it comes down to perspective.
Well, you could say fuck it and do what many homeless travelers do: say fuck the rat race and hit the road. /r/Vagabond
You should look forward to dying or find something interesting to do with the small amount of money you have left after the government takes their share.
You also have to realize your school/work situation is waaay more time a full time job!! Also, once you have a career you work your butt off for a few years but can eventually advocate for more flexibility and freedoms. Many people just accept what they are given and make it work, but I firmly believe you need to value yourself enough to ask for what works for you. I have not lost a job from that yet, the worst they can say is no and they risk losing a valuable employee when they say that.
Iām very lucky in this regard, I choose my own work hours and minimum wage in my country (Australia) is the highest in the world, I make almost double the minimum though so I choose to work really few hours! Immigrate to Australia and work for a big company!
That's why people tell you to get a job doing something you're passionate about. So that you can avoid slaving away doing some menial job for the rest of your life.
I'm genuinely not trying to be rude here. But it's an extremely novel idea that humans are supposed to have all this free time to "just enjoy life." Every generation has its ups and downs with the economic tides but if you take an honest look through history you see that life has ALWAYS been about work, not play. This is especially true in agricultural societies. And in my opinion that's a good thing. Work is a good thing. Discipline is a good thing. Doing things you have to that you don't want to is a good thing. Time management is a skill everyone should learn. The average person can find 4-5 hours PER DAY that are being wasted if they tried hard enough.
Used to be Sundays off for church. Weekend is such a novel concept, we just got used to it really quickly
Then stop. You donāt have to do anything, you chose to do it because itās the best course of action for your life. If you donāt want to do it, just donāt do it. However, you have to realize there is a reason you do it in the first place and not doing it has consequences. Choose to run your life the way you WANT and youāll be a lot happier.
Learn to live below your means. And take all your shits in the morning.
I work full time and itās honestly not that bad.
I work Monday to Friday, 9AM to 5PM. I leave for work around 8:15 and get home around 5:45. That leaves me about six hours a night for myself, then weekends.
Plus I get 20 days a year vacation and five days personal (kinda the same thing), so I have the ability to go on trips.
"with little time to do anything"... What? If we're talking about a 40 hour week, the typical schedule is either 4x10 or 5x8. If you work 10 hour days, you still have 6 hours of free time per day, even if you sleep 8 hours. 6 hours is plenty to get shit done, considering you're looking at a 3 day weekend. If you only work 8 hours, you have 8 hours of free time and 8 hours of sleep. Most people sleep 6 hours, so you have 10 hours of free time, 8 hours of work... If you can't find any way to possibly enjoy your life and hobbies with 10 hours per work day, then you are your problem, not the job.
If most people sleep 6 I would say between getting ready for bed, going to bed, actually sleeping, waking up and getting out of bed, it would be more like 8.
Getting ready for work takes min 15 minutes, possible 1 - 2 hours commuting. Expected to be there 15 min early.
Add in groceries, making 3 big meals to split between suppers and lunches for the whole week. That's another 1h per work day on average.
Add in winddown time after stressful workday that's another 1/2h.
So we went from 8 hours of free time per workday to 4.
Now 2 weekend days and 4 hours during the weekday really isn't that bad.
Add in OT, fixing and upgrading shit yourself, errands, exercise, visiting friends or family once every couple weeks, squeeze in 1 or 2 very casual hobbies and that's life.
I'm not complaining. I have enough free time. But to say you have 10 hours of free time per workday is just not true.
Lol you're including wind down time? That's called fucking free time. A 1-2 hour commute is extreme. If you waste 2 hours per day getting ready for and waking up from sleep, then you're lazy lol. Your time management blooooows
How old are you? I see you've clearly never had stressful job. If your job is stressful enough that you have to go home and sit in a dark room for a 1/2 hour I INCLUDE that as time spent for work.
1 hour commute TOTAL is very normal in any major city. 1/2 hour there and 1/2 hours back is not far.
I said 6 hours plus up to 2 more hours to get to sleep, etc. Because most people just don't punch their time card out at 22:00 and fall asleep instantly. Then include those people who actually get the recommended amount of sleep (more than 6 hours).
"your life and hobbies with 10 hours per work day"
or else
"Your time management blooooows"
You are vastly oversimplifying things here. You realize there is a middle ground right?
Whatever makes you feel better lol... The reality here is that you have bad time management and it also sounds like maybe some maturity issues. I work in a decently crucial position in a wind power company, dealing with millions of dollars of revenue, monthly. I guarantee my job is far more stressful, you condescending asshat.
Sure I get how you may have strong feelings about this issue. Sending good thoughts.
"you condescending asshat." Guess you got a taste of how you are coming off to other people.
Your response to my first post was insulting, so I returned the favor. If you can't take it don't give it.
Good for you if manage to have a ton of free time everyday and don't need wind down time from your extremely stressful job. Not everyone is in the same situation as you, not everyone deals with stress as easily, and not everyone has a ton of "free" time.
"If you can't find any way to possibly enjoy your life and hobbies with 10 hours per work day, then you are your problem, not the job." Do you still stand by your statement that everyone literally has 10 hours of free time a day? Because this is just blowing my mind.
And again you are insulting my time management without knowing anything about me. I get a lot of shit done and manage to have hobbies. My post is simply trying to highlight that not everyone has as much free time as you seem to believe, and that it's not always due to "Your time management blooooows".
Yep still stand by everything I said, a fuckin month ago... You really do suck with time lol
Sorry for not spending all my time replying to people on reddit.
The way you talk reminds me of a friend of mine and also of a colleague. If you are also having difficulties interacting with people in real life you should probably talk to someone.
Working from 08:00-16:30. I am home at 17:00. have about 6 hours to do something before sleep. In 6 hours you can do many things...
Its really all about time management.
I like the people I work with, the work I do is hard, but rewarding, my home is a reminder of what hard work brings me as far as stability and ownership is concerned, my family is provided for and I am working towards retirement.
Thereās more to it and everyday isnāt great, but itās all enough to make me happy with my life. Keeping things in perspective, we live in a very fortunate time period.
Make your job one of your hobbies. Or make it your main hobby. For example I wanna be a ski instructor which seems like a dream job to get paid to ski (usually itās the other way around ).
Little time? If you work 8-5 and go to bed at 10-11, that's 5 to 6 hours of free time to do whatever you want. OP says she has a 2 HOUR morning routine, that's nuts. I am up and at work in 35-60 minutes every day max!
The expectation that you need a whole day to do anything meaningful is silly. 5 hours is enough to cook and eat a simple meal, watch TV, garden, play video games, study, whatever. It does get harder with kids because they require so much maintenance, but generally speaking most people who work a single 8-5 have a lot of free time.
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Iām over it and Iām 20. Fuck.
Unless your the 1% your gonna live a hell hole. My folks came from the slums and even in there 50s we are āmiddle classā they still have to work 24/7.
Just get a job that's mildly interesting
I work 40 plus hours a week doing construction and I still think I have plenty of time to do the things I like/need to do after work and on the weekends... Iām not sure I understand the post.
Whatās even crazier is that we spend way more time with the people we work with rather than the people we love.
Sad.
https://youtu.be/8CrOL-ydFMI
The human can't deal with complete true freedom. Most would go insane.
In elementary and middle school I would always think about this too. How am I suppose to do stuff when I only two day weekends lol But since Iām job searching now Have too much time and running out of things to do
It's really about how you productively use your free time. I shared a similar sentiment when I was in college because I was grinding away balancing a full school load while working full-time. I spent a couple of years post grad 'decompressing' and not working a traditional 9-5 and grew so bored and tired of it. I enjoy the work that I do now and it has very nicely assimilated into my life. I enjoy accomplishing tasks and it makes me feel good as a human to have a productive day. I still have time after work and am so adjusted to my sleep schedule now that I do a lot more hobbies and socializing between the hours of 6-10. Four hours is enough time to get a lot done and feel satisfied.
Easy, don't live in the USA..or japan for that matter.
Im home by 3 most days. No kids. Plenty of money... problem is figuring out what to do to pass the time... everyone has problems
One of the best decisions of my life was working as a nurse. We work 3x12 hr shifts. I will schedule 3 shifts at the end of one week and the beginning of the following week. So I work 6 days on and 8 days off. Itās like a mini vacation every week. If I had to work the 5x8hr shifts every week I would go crazy. I feel like if I am already at work letās just get it over with. If I was allowed and had the mental and physical capacity I would work a 36hr stretch and be done each week.
Go live in the wild, Mick Dodge style!
Isn't there some saying about if you're bored then that means you're lucky enough in life to experience it? Once all your survival mechanisms have been satisfied and you get to experience boredom then that's a good thing. Its when you're bored that people seek change.
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Why do you think this is the case? I work 10-6ish, and when I get home, I have like, 4-5hrs of free time before I go to bed. There's a lot you can do in that time.