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Looks to be the same flag. But no, I did not get it from them and I got it cheaper than their price. Also they're out of stock according to their website.
So looks like I got a rare collectible!
I respect the stand against the mods tho. O7
It IS their flag, the person/website u got it from jacked it from them I believe. It legit is their logo (the skull and ācross bonesā thing). I donāt like bullies, so they ban me for answering where to buy this (from the actual company that did it) than thatās on them.
Edit: fat fingers on little iphone buttons make premature posts before thought/response complete, also typo.
Oh I'm not doubting that, just saying I didn't get it from them lol.
I think the dude I got it from had bought a bunch and was selling them second hand.
EDIT: after a quick inspection, I see no tags or any identifying marks to suggest it is a legitimate product. So very well could be a knock off. Either way, I like the flag.
All good bud, people jack designs all the time unfortunately.
Love Moeguns! They have great neck gaiters as well, but overall a based company.
Same. Theyāre an awesome company. Iām on the waiting list for like 2 flags and a couple patches to come back in stock.
Im buying the fuck out of that flag when its back in stock.
15 bucks for a moral patch is outrageous.
They have others that are $10, or $12ā¦. If thatās more than you want to spend, buy cheaper ones else whereā¦.. gasp, the free market in effect, a libertarians dreamā¦.
Must of struck a nerve.
No I will not say where I got this flag, because last time I told someone where I bought something, one of the power jannies banned me for a week.
Fuck you jannies.
Fucks a jannies? Sounds similar to window licker.
An unpaid internet janitor. AKA a mod.
Ahhhhhhh, makes sense! Fair play.
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I love that term! Stealing...with all possible respect!
on a libertarian sub "no I will not break a stupid rule. Also look at this cool flag of the guy who had enough of stupid rules. Also I like to obey arbitrary rules, even tho there's no real consequences for breaking them." Don't post where you got the flag, no one cares
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I'm certain the one minute of dedicated energy he put into that comment would make an outstanding difference in his community.
You've spent far more time than that defending yourself in these comments about being scared to get banned. You should dedicate THAT energy to actually changing your community and local legislation
And you've spent a bit of time processing OP's responses and judging how much time and energy they took. You should dedicate THAT energy to actually changing your community and local legislation.
And I've spent a bit of time processing your response and how much time that took. I should dedicate THAT energy to actually changing my community and local legislation.
And I've spent a big of time processing my own response and how much time that took. I should dedicate THAT energy to actually changing my community and local legislation.
And I've...
You're right, I'm sorry I was so hostile towards you. It was suppse to be half joking and half sarcasm but it came off pretty rude. You're flag is awesome. Kill dozer is a folk hero of the libertarian community. Mods are gay
Could you DM me?
No.
Why
Because I don't want to get banned again, and I'm not sure if you're a janny alt or not.
I ain't risking it, I know how fucking sweaty the neckbeard immobile mods on this sub are.
Fair enough
Just tell them you're definitely not a janny for proof.
If you ask them if they are a janny they have to tell you to the truth /s
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Based and become ungovernable pilled
Iāll help you bro. Go to Google and type in āKilldozer flagā youāll see ads at the top for them
Jannies comin for you now
I found it for 15 bucks and free two day shipping....
Smart
Isn't "tread on them" kind of the antithesis of the NAP?
Shhhh. You'll upset the neo-libertarians who claim the label without the awareness of the NAP.
What if they tread on you first?
You certainly have a right to self defense. Retaliatory strikes are nothing more than an act of aggression masquerading as self defense.
Where is the line between self defense and retaliatory strike?
Are you in danger and protecting yourself by preventing a future attack that actually would have happened, or are you attacking someone in order to hurt them disproportionately as punishment for having done something that you don't like?
This question is really difficult to answer, and is very case-by-case, and usually adversarial.
Therein lies the vaguery inherent to the NAP
Yep, which is why I don't trust anarchies. They quickly turn into whatever the biggest survivor wants after someone breaks the NAP (or someone lies/bends the truth to convince people it was broken) and people start fighting.
Anarchy is the natural state of the world, and every form of government that exists, or has existed, is by definition an eventual product of anarchy.
Its based on the event that you were treaded on so its completely in line with the NAP.
It totally is, but ātread on themā in the context of the killdozer story is a reference to fighting back after being seriously fucked with by government. In the words of the Dude, āThis will not stand, you know, this aggression will not stand, man.ā
"I Tread Back"
.....not real sure why it looks familiar.....
Based af.
Nah imma keep using the original
Donāt abuse the killdozer! The dude built it due to the city treading on him
I must add this to my flag shitpost collection.
Oh STFU.
There is no "issue" with the Gadsden flag. It's not been "hijacked".
Amen
Eh, whenever I see one on a car I assume they suck cop dick
Whenever lefties see a gadsden flag they assume the person is a fascist, and that's also stupid.
/#notallgadsdens, but unironically
That said, the hypocrisy of gadsden + trump paraphernalia makes me gag
Nutt. Where can I get one?!
Did killdozer really have that pirate mark on it?
Itās the logo for the company that made the flag
No, that's the logo of the company selling the flag
Nah that should say fuck around and find out
If I work for the my states house of reps again I need to put this flag up in the office to remind everyone to kindly not tread
shut up and take my money.
"Tread on them" is the worst thing you could write in a Gadsden flag
Not really. It's referring to the state.
Are we revolutionaries now? treading on them?
Original text worked perfectly fine for killdozer, this change completely destroys the meaning of it
If they tread on you tread on them
Is Tesla coming out with a Killdozer yet? sign me up
Wonder what would go through the fed bois head when they opened the van doors and saw that flag on the house they are supposed to raid.
Cant remember the last time I cared for mod authority
What is the hijacked Gadson flag?
There are a bunch of gutless "libertarians" who think the Gadsden flag has been "hijacked" by conservatives and MAGA types, and they now believe the flag is somehow too controversial or problematic for libertarians to fly. In other words, they're giant bitches who want to meekly forfeit one of the most badass flags in history because they're terrified that a liberal will mistake them for a Trump supporter if they rep it.
Sounds almost like they like getting tread on.
Bitches got scared when the feds labeled them violent extremists just for owning the flag.
If they believed at all in what that flag represents they wouldn't be reeing about extremists allegedly co-opting the flag.
I'm not sure you've actually spoken to any liberals about this. Seems like you might have just posts complaining about it on social media. Unless you have actually asked people why they don't fly that flag and actually listened to their response, what you're saying doesn't mean anything at all. Just random internet slander.
This gives me more ancap energy honestly and you know what I'm fucking here for it.
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Proof that the self-awareness centers of your brains do not work.
No one is surprised that you're just outright mask-off fascists now.
You don't understand the source of the killdozer meme do you?
Not everyone is gonna know every libertarian story that is shared on Reddit. This flag is aggressive, but i get that the intention is not unjustly aggressive.
Regardless, when people outside this bubble see the flag and interpret it, knowing different stories and info about libertarianism than you do, they'll see a pretty aggressive message.
Oh I am well aware.
Even if you tell them they won't listen.
They aren't here to listen.
You, for instance, just refused to listen to me, apparently. Besides, it's a false game to assume everyone who disagrees with you has a reason to trust you. You can't expect it any more than they can expect it from you.
But that is not relevant. My only point was that not everyone has the same information environment as your reddit bubble, and you have to think about people in general for messaging.
I acknowledged your point and added that even if you tried to make them aware they wouldn't listen.
My only concern is my ideals. Not the consideration of others. If I cared that much about the opinions of others then my ideals and morals would be useless because I would bend them to fit the opinions of others.
Your beliefs mean nothing unless you stand for them.
Mostly i want someone to take that killdozer pic, crop it, and vectorize it.
Welcome home š¢
So that's the statist flag?
Got quite a few things from Moe guns....but service has been kinda shit.
In my opinion itād be better if it said ātread backā or something like that. Fits more with the ideology of not starting shit and remaining peaceful until given no alternative.
If the caption on this flag was "be untreadable" or "make them think twice about treading" or whatever...I could get behind it. But this is not an ideology based on offense.
is brilliant.
There's another version from different stores, "Tread on those who tread on you"
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Hec7d55b5fecf457fbeea6b16d82e5db1Q/90x150-cm-custom-tread-on-those-who-tread-on-you-flag-banner.jpg
I disagree that it's based on offense. We are already being tread upon. They steal from us, coerce us, increasingly restrict our freedoms, indenture our children and their children. They want to turn us into corporate serfs. What good is a nightwatchman that's asleep?
I don't want violence but it seems like in many ways violence is already upon us.
I agree, "tread on them" is pretty much the antithesis to libertarianism
"Tread on them" in the context of killdozer is antigoverment, and the government is violent and evil so. Based. Get over it.
Yeah. Theyāre over thinking it.
Non libertarians dont know killdozer, they'll just read the words and makr a knee-jerk assumption
New to libertarian land and can confirm, had no idea what killdozer was until I read this thread. I thought this post was just sarcasm
My first reaction to killdozer story was to hear Calypso ask āWill you drive?ā
Iād of thought the obvious would be āBite backā, as is what the rattle snake would do