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Who is keffals exactly and what crimes?

Trans activist nutjob that will send hormones to kids

Oh yeah that’s a bit of a yikes. ā€œLet’s give something that can do serious harm to very impressionable youth. I’m sure nothing bad can happenā€. That type?

Correct - because they know better apparently than the kid’s own parents I guess haha. If you disagree though you’re a bigot and a terrible person who should be shunned from all society I think… something like that. šŸ˜‚

*home brew hormones

What is the exact crime and evidence for it?

Drugging children with shit he brewed in his bathtub.

The evidence is that he said he did it.

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ā€œLet me link kids up with a plug who sells/gifts regulated prescription drugs without an explicit doctors prescription.ā€

A felony in most states.

Edit: ofc dude blocks me 🤣

Forcing drugs down their throat? If it is not that, I doubt it counts as drugging.

By that logic, slipping someone a roofie also isn't drugging.

Still waiting for that evidence.

She actuvely direct harassment against people that contradicts her opinion in games and media. She became sor of famous for organizing 'ratios' She has encourage doxxing and swatting She sends god knows (hormones maybe) what to transition teenagers She has advocate paedo stuff She had a "ranch" in telegram where she roleplay furry sex with minors

Additional to blackfox it was also flirting with minors.

Do you have a source?

Still on phone but managed to find some of my unsorted archive links. Take a gander through.

https://archive.ph/Zrvm0 https://archive.ph/VgRke https://archive.ph/4XxuP https://archive.ph/opH0l

Oh. I replied to you instead of the other guy. Posting on phone atm. You can get them from kiwifarms.ru or I can drop the archive links once I am home.

That’ll work thanks

And once again the CEO of cloudflare demonstrates his word is absolute trash. Remember the last 2 times when he swore up and down this would never happen again? He even has the gall to call himself a free speech advocate

Remember, Cloudflare hosts ISIS and other literal terrorists, and brags about it

Yeah because ISIS respects people’s pronouns, duh.

yeah, they definitely take it seriously.

I’ve worked with Josh before on software projects and he’ll be back up in no time. Cloudflare and Matthew Prince have proven time and time again that their word means nothing.

But more importantly it just proves that the mentally ill can continue their PR harassment campaigns in today’s climate and censor whatever they wish, with the support of the media. They whip up a frenzied campaign and get the media on their side.

The site isn't even down in the first place, you can still reach it

Well yes, resolvable. There’s a tor service and perhaps a separate .ru domain. Was that still using cloud flare as a reverse proxy?

After the last time the censorious ceo did this, I researched alternatives.

BitMitigate seemed to be the best option

It was back up on the .ru 10 mins after the .net went down

Kind of ironic considering the #Dropkiwifarms was presenting a potential threat to human life, as they were constantly claiming they would dox and assault kiwi farms users

Wokeness means double standards, all the way down.

Kiwi Farms is a bad place, at least in part,, but there needs to be free speech venues where a person can denounce transgendrism or even just a transgender person, and not be compelled to use names or pronouns one would choose not to utter.

I wrote a post about how I feel compelling people to use names, not how life works. Someone named Charles can ask people to call him Chuck and not Charlie, ok r vice versa, but cannot compel someone to do so...

I'd rather side with the farms than the person selling home made hormone meds to kids.

You stop that! Horse hormones and horse abortion meds are every bit ad good as human versions! But not ivermectin!

Of course....

My honest opinion is that they're both dumbasses in their own way and I couldn't care less about either side of this. I just like watching tard fights.

It's like that scene on The Office when Andy gets back from anger management and says "It's Drew now..." and Jim still calls him Andy, he says "I can't control what you do, just how I react" or something.

Just proof of how far we've gone.

Edit: I will say that I think IRL Jim should've called him Drew, as he did have a breakdown. He doesn't HAVE to though and that's my point. Also funnier for the show not to.

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Freedom of speech only applies to the government. Read the constitution. Companies are in their complete rights to ā€œcensorā€ whatever they want.

And there is nothing you can do about that.

American moment. As long as your government says it's okay then it's okay.

I’m from Canada. If you actually cared about making a movement out of it, you’d be doing a lot more than complaining on Reddit.

I’m not even saying it’s okay, just that you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. If you want to go to court and discuss different interpretations of the constitution, I’m happy for you, go for it.

But as is, Reddit is under no legal need to adhere to letting everyone say whatever they want and I’m tired of people being unaware of that.

I’m from Canada

Pffffft HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Another thing I notice about this sub is how, absolutely moronic they are when it comes to handling important subjects.

I haven’t had a single discussion stay on topic here, and it’s actually pretty pathetic. Like, if you cared so much, how come you can’t discuss it? Does the sub just naturally attract users with a lower intellect and/or unable to acknowledge the subject matter? If so, why? I really do wonder about the users here..

Also, how old are you, if you don’t mind. I’m genuinely fascinated with any adult that acts this much like a child.

There's nothing to discuss with you. Your immediate appeal to authority and falling back on the "government approved" definition of free speech (not even YOUR government as you claim to not be from the US) makes it instantly obvious what your opinion on the free exchange of ideas is.

There is no ground to be gained with you so what's the point in discussing it? I can see why you'd be opposed to the CONCEPT (not law) of free speech because you likely don't have anything of interest to say that wasn't planted in your head by a third party and you'd just feel left out if others were allowed to speak their mind while you twiddled your thumbs. In fact I bet you'd like it if even that pesky american amendment didn't exist as even that is likely too liberating in your mind and you'd really love an authoritarian state.

I just pointed out a simple fact, seriously. I didn’t ā€œappealā€ to anyone. There’s no bias in saying ā€œthe amendment actually doesn’t cover private companies, only the governmentā€. It’s just a basic fact lmao

The only reason I read the constitution was because I have a crazy trump obsessed uncle who I need to sit down and explain basic concepts to. It’s more a necessity than much else.

See, here we go again... completely off topic. What IS it with this sub, seriously?

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r//ChangeMyView handles discussions just fine. As long as you’re open minded and make logical judgments based off of the evidence provided, there’s really no problem with anyone.

But yes, if you look evidence in the face, turn it down, and double down on your generally harmful opinions, a lot of people and subs will take that as an aggressive/negative response. (Though I have very strong doubts that you’d be ā€œ100% politeā€. Certain stances attract certain people for a reason.)

Oh I don’t know, I’m not obsessed with politics.

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Yes, the Reddit TOS protects those who need it most, rather than spending energy on those that don’t. I say this as a (mostly) white man, someone normally associated with the majority. I don’t need the same protections a black woman would need, and there’s no problem acknowledging that.

Harm is as subjective as society says it is. You going outside and shooting 15 people will be seen as harmful, whether or not you believe it is.

Ngl this reads as a copypasta, but I also don’t care about politics so... no response.

Nah, not gonna waste my time posting to a forum that’ll be deleted in the next month. I also don’t like associating myself with low lives.

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I don’t see how reproduction rates are relevant at all. Ignoring the fact that a smaller group will indeed have a smaller amount of children, that still doesn’t change the fact that... they’re more likely to be the center of... y’know, attack.

I’m from Canada. So... nice assumptions.

You’re actually insane, Jesus. Nobody mentioned half the crap you’re rambling to yourself about.

I'll bet you're fine with a baker or florist refusing to bake a cake or make floral arrangements for so called gay marriage.

1st amendment is a prohibition on government censorshio, but it also reflects an important societal Blair on free speech and free expression.

Mate... I can see with 2 seconds in your history you’re a bigot, really funny you try to pull that bull.

You really aren’t someone I’d stoop low enough to talk to, sorry to say.

You of course did not address my argument. We all know you are absolutely inconsistent on this matter.

As you did not address mine. When you can put in the effort to properly write ā€œaddressā€, then we’ll talk.

Difficulty typing on a phone does nothing to diminish the merits of my argument. Go slurp shit, literally.

You were the person responding to ME. You are the person with the obligation to stay on topic. I don’t need to play your childish game.

The funny thing is how repulsive your social skills are. Idk, maybe you aren’t being censored, maybe you’re just crap at being a respectful, likable human being?

Keep dodging the issue. You think private companies should be able to do whatever the fuck they want, and that's really only because of institutional capture by Cultural Marxism, ie that it favors your side, and yet you think mom and pop outfits such as bakers and florists should be compelled to do business against their beliefs. Also, read up on the bsitory of the corporate charter, common carrier laws as just some of the ways that private companies cannot do whatever th fuck they want. Or not, I really don't give a fuck what you think.

I have no opinions on the matter.

All I did was point out the facts.

Private companies aren’t obligated by law to let you say whatever you want.

Nuff said. I’m boiling out all the fat here, if you STILL view a basic fact as an opinion, you truly are too far gone.

Your history tells me your grammar mistake isn’t a one time thing either. You genuinely don’t know how to spell and communicate properly.

Enjoy being blocked. Or... censored, if that’s what’ll upset you more lol

there needs to be free speech venues where a person can denounce transgendrism

Kiss your 6-year-old account goodbye.

I think I did ok, limiting my comment to disagreeing with policy as opposed to violating it. Difference between stating a forbidden utterance should be permissible (of course it should) and smoking that utterance.

I agree in principle. Even though it usually has its own flaws (as is expected in any organization), I don't see how KiwiFarms is "a bad place", as you would put it, especially when it is designed to out people from both (or all) sides of the aisle.

It's as if it were seeking its place in the sun as an equal-opportunity Wikileaks equivalent.

Its so bad huh? You probably think 4chan is a hacker.

I did qualify "in parts..."

'Charles' 'Chuck'

Ferrari USA moment

I went on Kiwi Farms and it was mostly making fun of crazy people like Chris Chan. Idk what is so offensive about it. Why go after this instead of 4chan?

I'm sure 4chan is on their list, too.

Bro the day they go after 4chan is the day I make myself a popcorn and watch the fireworks

Going after 4chan is pointless. Its just... too big. Its like how it went down with the /cringe on reddit, they would just keep making new and new websites (and, unlike with /cringe child-subs, actually take measures preventing their further bans). Going after KW is also kinda pointless (if not actually harmful to their couse of taking down KW due to bad PR still being PR) as well, but its still a lot smaller (or at least, less famous) than 4chan. And maybe personal issues. Probably personal issues

It's offensive to the crazy people it makes fun of.

And unfortunately, we live in a society where crazy people hold a lot of social power.

Because going after 4chan is pointless.

Anyone who uses Cloudflare these days is either desperate or stupid. They're a horrible company, not just because of their ToS, but because their network infrastructure is just one step above two aluminum cans tied together with a string.

Best anti-censorship alternatives (both for CDN and DDOS protection)?

ā€œThreat to human lifeā€, how melodramatic

It's so asinine. Someone posted a bomb threat joke and it was gone within 30 mins. Looks to be an old lefty lurker account based on post history or lack there of.

Well, Kiwifarms did cause a bunch of people to commit suicide after prolonged harassment...

As if Kiwifarms itself has the power to make people kill themselves. As if other websites don’t also do it. You could say one errant thing to someone on Twitter and you’d find an hero the very next day depending on who it was. Kiwifarms is definitely not the first in a long line of websites that have been involved in auch controversy, but it all comes down to the individuals who post on the internet and what they say and do. Its a heavy risk, I admit, and it sucks, but its better than the alternative of having Big Brother police every thing you say, do, and think to the point that even innocuous statements could get you fined, slammed, or ā€œsuicided.ā€ People need to be held accountable for their shotty behavior, not the place they say it in. Would you close down a park because seedy behavior arises and it happens to become a spot where several people have hung themselves?

Kiwifarms though specializes specifically in finding people who are very vulnerable tp harassment and bullying and organizing exactly that. And yeah, I agree that people should be accountable for what they do, so should the kiwifarms owner and users who participated in it.

I can’t disagree, but I’d like to point out that changes the scenario. I was under the impression that it was solely the patrons; if the people running the sight got in on it, then yeah they should take responsibility.

Such as?

Near (creator of bsnes super nintento emulator), Julie Terryberry, Chloe Sagal.

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A few years back I used to follow an interesting thread about a schizophrenic programmer. Back then at least I found it fairly moderate, nothing at all as people describe it as nowadays. But you can't expect people to actually do their own research, easier to just believe to what other people say.

Terry Davis? I miss him

yes, that was him. Interesting that strangers on the internet probably knew him better than his own friends and family

He was really smart, temple os is amazing for its size

That's what happens when God talks to you js

God’s Favorite Programmer, man

He’s with the Lord now

I never heard of KiwiFarms till today and the advertising blitz put on by Keffals and their cronies.

what opinions can I even have on this?

Now you're asking the right questions. Stop assuming you can just have any opinion you want.

Kiwi farms + keffals = Kwiffals

What are corporations to you? Corporations are not ā€œscumā€. Seems like you have no idea what a corporation is. You just throw around controversial words like corporation without actually knowing what you are referring to.

Corporations have nothing intrinsically wrong with them. There are certain corporations that are given bailouts by DEMOCRATS and some RINOS that have become a nest of scumbags.

Corporations as a whole should be defended, because you can count the number of bad corps, you cant imagine the number of harmless and helpful corps

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Im not going to address the entire statement because i dont disagree with all of it. If you dont care about small corp them dont say corps are scum as a whole, specify exactly who and why is scum. And you should care about small corps because, in an entirety, they have significantly more control than the aforementioned large corps.

If you had used clarifiers like you did in this last message, we wouldnt be here.

Be exact in what you mean, dont just throw some shit buzz words out there. Its pathetic

dude, everyone else understood it. Maybe the problem is with you

Say what you mean, not something indirect and nebulous which you hope people will infer from your statement

A corporation is a legal entity with its own rights, privileges and liabilities separate from the members who created it.

Talk about detached accountability.

And the historic record shows it .

And its a great thing too. I would hate to run a business where any mistake they could come after every me and my family have.

AKA - I do not want to be held accountable for how my business operated in respect to any mistakes of the legal or unprofitable kind, however should profitable circumstances arise I most certainly expect accountability to be enacted in its fullest potential.

Gee Whizz , seams reasonable to me. What a cool and fair minded person you must be my dude.

When you are running a business, especially with employees, it is absurd for you to be held accountable for the actions of dozens upon dozens of people personally. Which is why corporations exist. Lets say the employee kyle at a mom and pop shop decides with his douchebag friends to screw over and beat a customer up because he had undisclosed emotional issues. Should the little asian family owning the business lose all their business and their childrens school fund and house and everything else? Or is that a problem strictly stay within the business?

Its not lack of accountability, its protection against unforeseen circumstance and other peoples idiocy. By your own logic, is insurance a way of avoiding responsibility? Because damn you accidentally cause $1m in damages bur you have insurance, you only have to pay part of it. You are putting the cost on someone else who may or may not end up paying the owned sum. Damn what an evil thing to do

And yet when circumstances are favourable every one of those employees and the profit they derive is accounted for, without even a glimpse of any consideration on how "absurd" it is for your dozens of employees and all the profit they produce to be directly passed on to you, but if they make a mistake, Its apparently preposterous to even consider that you should be held personally responsible, even partially, the oneness is equally the business owners, managers ,profit takers and the employed person's , your businesses operations and the outcomes that transpire from it are directly attached to all the participating parties

in a just world the OWNER always holds some degree of personal accountability for the outcomes. cream skimmers living in a delusional ethical realm think only favourable circumstances should be transferred up the chain . All parties involved are on the hook.

Ah so Im talking to a commie, no wonder you can’t understand simple concepts. You started the business, you experience the loses and gains. They didnt start the business, they get the paid whether or not the business is sinking or floating. Its their choice. They could start a corp for $300 or so, but they chose not to. Business owners cannot possibly be expected to be responsible for every single issue that arises from their company, their company however, should. Its not all fucking rainbows and roses owning a business, 9/10 fail. Thats a risk not everyone is willing to take, but should everyone reap the same rewards as that one individual who tried 10 times and succeeded only once? No that’s ridiculous.

The personal responsibility is losing the fucking business you poured your blood sweat and tears into.

You probably work a shit job no skill required with minimal pay which is why youre so angry at the world and successful people. Grow up, stop acting like a child. I dont intend to talk to adult children either. Goodbye

Wait! Come back, I'm not done yelling at you.

found the HR worker with an inflated ego

No, just a reasonable human who understands why we have certain legal entities

Keffals seen here in a rare break from grooming young boys.

Sorry, I meant 'predditing' young boys.

They exposed a lot of Pest Duggar aka Josh the pedophile. They spoke the truth about Eugenia Cooney and expose her parents as the abusers that they are, especially her mom. They also had a timeline that dated the abuse of the Rodlets kids, to name a few. I hope they come back.

If they are going to drop Kiwi Farms for harassment, they should drop Facebook and Twitter which have far worse harassment problems. At the end up the day, they are a private company and can host who they like but I still think this decision is stupid.

Cloudflare abides by all applicable laws in the countries in which we operate and we firmly support the due process of law. If we were to receive a valid court order that compelled us to not provide service to a customer then we would comply with that court order. We have never received a request to terminate the site in question from any law enforcement authority, let alone a valid order from a court.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-and-free-speech/

Also Cloudflare:

We have blocked Kiwifarms. Visitors to any of the Kiwifarms sites that use any of Cloudflare's services will see a Cloudflare block page and a link to this post.

https://archive.ph/3gd9t#selection-295.0-295.161

Was there a "valid court order"?

No they acted before any court order. They admit as much in their message on the site.

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Literally several people there saying they don't hat transsexuals. They laugh at all internet weirdos. A lot of the featured transsexuals are also cheese pizza enthusiasts.

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Oh no. People who disagree might leave nasty stickers and messages on my wall... Oh noes.

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Arachnophobia, scared of spiders where you fear and might run away in presence of one or ask a friend or family to get rid of it. Transphobia, using incorrect pronouns, or having different opinions than that of a Transgender person, and it’s even more difficult with it being ever changing fluid opinions from individuals not a group

thats not the definition of transphobia

No it’s not. That’s what some people force it to be. Phobia means fear… not discrimination or differences in opinion. But changing language to suit opinions seems to be the latest fad anyways ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ

If you look in any dictionary it will be different

Yes, I did. which CLEARY you did NOT. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/transphobia

`an aversion or hostility to, disdain for, or fear of transgender people.`

Please point to WHERE you see opinion and discrimination? or do you need that looked up for you as well, as you clearly LOVE misinformation and bullshit...

If I was transphobic, I would not have my transgender friend sitting here next to me rolling her eyes at your stupidity now, no I would be running and screaming "kill it with fire!!"

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It's still up anyways. It's just a .ru instead of a .net now

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Yeah, how good that things that don't happen keep on not happening

I read the first few words of the description of Kiwi Farms.

They "removed" Parler from Google Play/iOS, then brought it back.

Most mass murders make some sort of disturbing posts on Facebook and other places and there's no action taken for that (because why, after they've already gone through with it).

Until it became a serial movement, like say the content of this site can be directly at fault for sparking riots actress the country, then there's no need to get rid of it. Not everyone is a child. But at the same time, it's a private business and they can do what they want, and unfortunately, they're gonna chase the bottom dollar regardless of the user's experience. They won't change until the money stops coming in.

So it's sad we lost a platform but ehh. Someone will make something else soon. It's like subreddits that everyone rallies to take down. As soon as they take down one, they immediately start looking for another.

While I personally dislike KiwiFarms as a website, that doesn't mean that it should be censored. I consider myself a free speech absolutist, after all.

There has been a massive culture war going on for the past decade or so, and this is just another casualty of that war The old internet is long gone, taken over by a small cabal of corporate conglomerates. The reason why these radical gender "activists" are so dangerous in the first place is because said corporate conglomerates have allowed them to be. Why? Because being "woke" is the current thing, and as we all know supporting the current thing = money. It's the same reason why someone like Keffals selling drugs to kids is something they consider to be a good thing. After all, the majority of corporate advertising is built upon the idea that you need their product, that you're not good enough without it. Convincing impressionable youths that they need HRT is their newest tactic.

I didn't think they'd listen to keffals

You didn't think massive authoritarian organizations would listen to tra ns virtue signaler with a documented history of gr ooming kids... bragging about that and sending HRT to minors without their parent's knowledge in violation of the laws in every country they've fled to?

The entire world for the past 10 years would like a word with you. Fuck, the Biden Admin would like a word with you. And I fucking HATE that we can't even openly talk about how fucked up this world is.

How can a website be and emergency threat to human life, they’re making it sound like it’s an avengers villain

the worse they make it sound, the less likely people are going to actually check the site out or try to understand its culture.

its garbage, and was because of a set-up the likes of which we often see on Reddit. a new user shows up, makes an absurdly against the rules post, and it gets deleted by mods. this is used as "evidence" something is going on.

A lot of these people have a vested interest in shutting down KF, though. because KF continuously exposes that these people are often kiddy fiddlers and sickos.

Same as always, Keffals needs to stop touching kids.

Keffals is just mad people found the cringy FinDom videos. I'm fairly certain that's why they've been seething for the past month or two.

On one side doxxing bad

On the other side paedo advocates, doxxing and swatting encouraging, having 15 yo teens in furry sex roleplay telegram groups and selling god knows what as hormones to minors (to name just a few documented behaviors from madame K) is not exactly somebody I want to defend.

I saw the post that was called an immediate threat, it's pretty obvious that it was a sockpuppet account.

It seems the Russian ddos protection firm dropped them.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DropKiwifarms/status/1566758222710689804

Thanks for the link. Looks like this is going a lot worse than expected. It's really unfortunate that there is nowhere I can be free to speak my mind without being banned.

RIP in peace. Gone but not forgotten

It's still available on the .ru domain and their onion domain. The .net is the only one down.

May KiwiFarms rest in piss

fuck kiwifarms. Fuck keffals even worse. Kiwifarms was basically a forum. Speech. If someone there went too far and called for violence, go after that person.

If someone there went too far and called for violence, go after that person.

The funny part about this is that it started with a challenge issued by keffals to the entire world that they were 100% clean and no one could find shit on them. Weird challenge to begin with if you actually are dirt free. However within like a few days their thread on the farms had evidence of them gr ooming minors, bragging about it, associating with other of the same kinds of predditors who also were bragging about the same, and about how many minors they were sending HRT to in violation of the laws of like every single country I know of.

They weren't taken down because someone called for violence, the farms were targeted because someone called the police and keffals hardrives were confiscated and imaged.

You say fuck the farms, but ironically this is exactly why places like the farms ought to exist. You try to post the same incriminating information ANYWHERE else on the internet? You are probably going to be censored into oblivion. Again, all to protect people gr ooming minors.

This world is fucked.

There isn't evidence of her grooming minors,you lying shitweasel

Average Quivering cultist

I really do not like keffals but kiwifarms enables and encourages doxxing. I could not care less that they are gone. At least for now.

Kiwi farm is a cesspool, generally. They have done some admirable things in the past, but it’s mostly as bad as people describe it.

Cloud flare has shown before that they will take action against content which they do not agree with. Which is fine, as long as they don’t advertise themselves as a ā€œpurveyor of free speechā€ or whatever.

Keffals is, as far as I read into it, quite the tone deaf and despicably monotone individual. Her main achievement in life is ratioing other people on twitter.

Ratioing random people with bots. Peddling bathtub hrt and grooming minors on discord

The thing about Prince is he tried to say he supported the farms right to be objectionable but dropped them 3 days later.

I haven’t seen evidence of the first, so I’ll reserve my judgment. But the second part I wholeheartedly agree with.

He’s done this before tho, so it’s good that people will know not to use cFlare as a CDN in the future

The bots part is speculation based on wonky engagement. The rest are hard facts. Some of which is in this thread. You want the archives?

KF is a place of legitimate harassment that goes far beyond Internet banter. Not the usual whining from people who want all opposition shut down, they are actually dangerous.

They document internet weirdos. What have they done actually dangerous?

Do you say the same about "influencers" like Danesh and rx0rcist?

I have no idea who those people are.

Are you capable of doing internet searches....

Do you say the same about "influencers" like Danesh and rx0rcist?

Why would I have an opinion about someone I don't know about?

Can anyone please explain to me this whole Kiwi Farms and Keffals ordeal? I have no idea what any of that means.

Transsexual makes destiny lose his job. Makes fun of him because he(destiny) has farms thread and keffals doesn't. Keffals claims no skeletons in closet. Farms find porn career, diy hormomes for 12 year olds plan and also flirting with underage boys. Keffals gets doxxed and swatted. Claims farms responsible. Goes to hotel swatted via bed sheets. Blames farms again. Goes to northern ireland(After police took copys of harddrive) gets doxxed by door knob blames farms again. Channer shows up blames farms again. Bomb threat from suspiciously inactive account on farms cloud flare has now blocked .net domain.

This will get you somewhat up to speed. Rekieta law on the MTG fiasco. I highly recommend the recent streams with Null and a certain Keffals supporter...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JqfC6M4NbSo&t=80s

Cloudflare has done that very often nothing surprising.