(An expansion of my comment from the post-episode thread)

Something to keep in mind here is that BCS has always had ten episodes a season. Each episode number had its own corresponding intro, ten in total that degraded over the course of the show. The natural arc of this is that the tenth episode of the final season should logically be the final episode. And if you saw Nippy and were told that it was the series finale, you'd probably believe it. Regardless of what you think of the quality of the episode, the last plot threads were pretty solidly wrapped up in this one. The resolution to the Jeff plotline was several seasons in the making, and we see Gene dip back into the Slippin' Jimmy/Saul lifestyle to get himself out of one last jam. When confronting the Jimmy/Saul outfit in the store, he hangs it back up on the rack. That part of his life changed him to an unbelievable degree, but he got past it. It's over now. He's at peace.

So after all that, a happy ending? No. There's an eleventh episode.

Gene doesn't know the rules of his own show. He can't recognize the natural conclusion. He keeps playing the tape, even though there's no more tape to play. We're out of intros. We just get a corrupted VHS mess as he drags this out a bit longer and dips back in.

In the same way, we're sort of in Gene's shoes. We know there's three episodes left. And we have other questions. Probably at the forefront of our minds is: Where are Walt and Jesse? We were told they'd be here. Now, to be clear, the show works without them. There's no explicit reason to dive back into that storyline. There's a whole other show for that. But we'd like to see them all the same. We're curious, itching to go back to that time of our lives. Just like Gene. And that's what we get. The instant the show moves past its obvious conclusion, we get "Breaking Bad" and a flashback to a scene with Walt and Jesse that we've already seen. We're getting exactly what we want.

Gene plays a slightly different, but related game. He goes and makes the phone call that attentive viewers have been waiting for since season 4. We want answers, and so does he. But Francesca doesn't have anything to give him. Because really, there's no reason for him to be calling. He can't go back to Albuquerque. And there's no one there that he cares about. He's initially punished by learning that his money is gone, which he could have lived the rest of his life without knowing had he just let the story end. But now it's in his head. And the phone call's almost over. And he doesn't want it to be over. So he starts reaching, asking questions about arbitrary side characters and dropping a few names that that plenty of us don't even remember. Francesca even looks confused as to why he's asking, and she doesn't really have the answers because she hasn't thought about it. While we were watching, my friend described this scene as "the fans calling Vince to ask him about fan theories," and we laughed at the time, but the more we thought about it, the more we realized that's pretty much what it was. Gene's just trying to wrap up loose ends that never needed to be wrapped up, even spinning a "Bill Oakley is gay" fan theory that doesn't pan out. The show is over. There are no more loose ends.

Well, that's not quite true. There's one. Interestingly, Gene forgets to ask about it, implying he's forgotten about it and has moved on. But Pandora's Box is open now. And Francesca, almost out of pity for not being able to give Gene anything, lets him know the one thing that's left: that Kim called. Gene probably could have gone the rest of his life without tugging on the Kim thread, and he almost does. But he goes back, because, as the Breaking Bad flashbacks and his return to con artistry and his return to the house and the existence of the episode itself show, he can't quite leave well enough alone. And he calls Kim, which inevitably goes poorly. And the sunk costs of all the work he's done wash over him in one big wave, and he spirals back into something that's almost guaranteed to go poorly as well.

There was no reason for him to make that call except to be reminded that he'd lost his money, his legacy, and, most likely, his wife, forever. If he'd just gone about his life having moved on from those things and leaving the Kim plotline uncertain, he'd probably have been fine. But like Chuck said, our precious Jimmy just can't keep his hands out of the cash drawer. Maybe that's not always who he always was, and maybe that's not who he was destined to be. But it's who he is now, and he refuses to accept that there's nothing left from his old life, even when all signs point to that being the case. And when confronted with harsh, inescapable reality, he slips.

Both Gene and the audience want to squeeze out a little bit more. We want to bring color back into this black and white world, stretch the show out with a small dose of nostalgia for the good times. Running cons, watching Breaking Bad. It's fun. And it's not useless. We'll get a little money, a little dopamine boost, even some extra character development and depth to the Breaking Bad universe. But those things were always hiding darker secrets, and bringing them back comes at a cost.

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This is genuinely an amazing analysis.

Yeah I just caught up on the ā€˜breaking bad’ episode then came straight to this sub.

OPs analysis is amazing and it makes total sense.

I usually dislike meta analysis because they are almost always cringingly over-analyzed, but this this one feels really legit, damn.

I could totally see the writers actually thinking this way when they came up with the story, even if it’s just a happy coincidence, I am sure they welcome this interpretation.

Who knows op might be Vince himself telling us that the show's over

You can go now

It's a Ferris Buller reference

it’s exactly the sort of big brain meta-narrative that artsy-fartsy filmmakers love to do. i totally buy this analysis.

just happens that this show is produced by genuine masters of their craft, so it doesn’t come across as masturbatory. (okay maybe sometimes but i still enjoy it)

It actually totally does. I know the OP put a lot of thought into it and they present their points well but nonetheless it’s pretentious and heavily belabours the point. Which to my mind is obvious. I’m sorry but it is. OP is clearly very clever and perceptive and clearly very pleased with themselves.

yeah i basically agree. the opening titles changing to that blue screen VCR/camcorder style practically spelled it out for us.

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I need to go see my analrapist after this

I got it, Dr Fünke

He recently Blue himself

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Something about the whole ā€œyou’re doneā€ phrase in relation to Saul/Gene and Walt bullying Saul into submission with the line ā€œwe’re done when I say we’re doneā€ twice in Breaking Bad (with the second time being unsuccessful at the vacuum shop) resonates here. Jeff isn’t done because he’s only done now when Gene says they are. Gene’s biting off more than he can chew here and is forcing Jeff into submission when their relationship is strained, not unlike what Walt did to Saul throughout Breaking Bad. Idk it’s just something that entered my mind.

Saul even looks like Walter, with those glasses and mustache.

He becomes a new Walter.

"A guy with a mustache like that is not one to make good life choices"

Paraphrasing

The next logical step is for him to shave his head.

that hairline is closer to death than Gene, if he survives a few more months he won’t need to shave

He became the PPK.

He became the PPK.

He became an easily concealable 7.5mm semiautomatic pistol?

Jesse, we have to cock

<Jesse>You're a cuck.</Jesse>
<Walter>What was that?</Walter>

Hallo Walt, ich bin bitch Frau, ich hatte Sex with Ted

Good point. I think the animosity he held against the cancer guy was him fighting back against Walt. I feel like Jimmy came out when he asked if the guy should even be drinking. When he shook it off, Saul swooped in without mercy

I wonder if Saul resents Walt, not for ruining his life, but for getting all the credit. Francesca says on the phone that the feds are mostly looking for him and Jesse since they can’t get Walt, implying that Walt is still considered the mastermind. Meanwhile the flashback with Mike shows that Mike definitely never saw him that way… and Saul didn’t either, he just saw him as a stuck pig, waiting for Saul to come along, exploit him for as much money as possible, and then broom him to the curb (or let the cancer take him) as soon as it becomes inconvenient.

Walt was supposed to be another mark. Saul created Walt, made him legitimate, convinced Gus Fring he had value. And now all anyone sees is ā€œHeisenberg: Criminal Mastermindā€ with a little footnote about his corrupt lawyer pal that helped.

This must drive him crazy.

Jimmy's thinking "and he gets to be a drug kingpin? What a sick joke"

Saul created Walt in a Frankenstein's monster kind of way - once he showed Walt the ropes, Walt took that knowledge and ran with it (being much, much more intelligent on an overall basis than Jimmy is). Walt was supposed to be a mark but Saul created a master criminal and it quickly spiraled out of his control, Walter was clearly the more effective of the two. I doubt he's mad about him getting the credit, does a college basketball coach get mad when his player makes it to the NBA??? Its a guy with much greater natural gifts than Saul, and Saul made him into the master criminal that he was just like a coach does.

Kinda like the Jimmy McGill story. He doesn’t know when to let go. Then it spirals out of his control. Doesn’t matter if you are in the right or wrong, sometimes you have to let go. Easier said then done obviously

Jimmy/Saul/Gene never really was that kind of person honestly. If he was, his relationship with his brother would be way more different, yet its not.

Good point, and i think part of him actually wants to be caught because of this

Saul wouldn't. But I think Jimmy would, knowing how he thinks of Howard.

I agree; he still has moments as Jimmy but they are short lived. He is now in rage mode most of the time, which makes him reckless. He's again throwing bowling balls in back yards.....only much worse. He's going to get himself or someone truly innocent, killed, and that will be Jimmy's final straw.

And nothing underlined the fact that he was in rage mode more than him busting the glass of the door with his arm, knowing that the guy might be waking up or even already awoken from the drugs - and apparently not even caring. No pretense at caution or finesse; he's just a bull in a china shop now.

Seriously, if the guy was awake or got woken up by the smashing of the glass, what is Gene's plan then?

He’s a chimp with a machine gun

Hes probably dead man. Hes on serious cancer drugs/narcotics, with alcohol and now barbiturates. Thats a classic OD death waiting to happen.

Great view, and happy cake day!

The very fact that he insisted on going ahead with that invasion indicates how reckless he's become. Whether it's a matter of not caring what happens to him or he's ego and control driven is hard to know; maybe a combination.

I think at this stage, he'll hurt the guy, or try to...anything to shut him up so he can get away. But, anything is possible. He might try to talk his way out of it!

He already did.

I disagree that Jimmy is responsible for Howard's death. He's the reason Lalo came there but he didn't initiate the reason.

Jimmy literally got Lalo, a man he knew was a murderer (of civilians!), out of jail just because he wanted the cash he would pay him. Jimmy already carries responsibility for anyone Lalo murdered after he skipped bail, but particularly for Howard considering that Jimmy's involvement in cartel business was the only link Howard would ever have to a man like Lalo. Most normal people don't work with the cartel specifically because they care enough about the people in their life not to want to put them in harm's way.

Jimmy was a lawyer; it's what they do, represent clients and get them out of jail. You can call Jimmy unethical, and condemn him for being involved in cartel business and that's fair. But Lalo is responsible for what Lalo did, nobody else.

Jimmy broke the law and lied to the court to help a man charged for murder with witnesses (a known mass murdering cartel don) to skip bail and hand delivered his bail money. Jimmy chose to be Lalo's bagman, no one made him do it, and it was that decision which irrevocably tied him to the cartel and ultimately led to Howard meeting Lalo. Breaking the law, lying to the court, getting into cartel shootouts et.c. to get your obviously guilty client off (illegally, I might add, because Jimmy didn't exonerate him, Lalo skipped bail) are not within the purview of lawyerly duties. That isn't just "what lawyers do."

Again, normal people don't work with cartel dons. Mafias go after and target the families and friends of their affiliates all the time. That's a major part of why most people avoid working with them. Jimmy chose to get further entangled in Lalo's business out of greed, knowing that it would endanger the lives of the people in his life. That decision nearly led to Kim's death on multiple occasions! None of that is to say that Lalo isn't culpable for pulling the trigger, but the idea that Jimmy is not also responsible for the danger he put Howard and everyone else in working with the cartel is just absurd. You're missing the bigger picture here.

Bagman is not the same as killer. I concede that Jimmy is an unethical lawyer. Do you think he'd be held responsible, as in convicted as an accomplice to murder, in a court of law? He would not. Jimmy neither directed Lalo to kill anyone nor did he have prior knowledge he was going to. His moral responsibility also stops at representing such clients.

As far as why most people avoid working with them, they don't. Lawyers represent guilty people all the time because everyone is entitled to a defense and as long as their attorneys don't lie to the court or commit a crime in the course of that representation, they, the attorneys, have done no wrong. I'm not even sure Jimmy was in violation of anything when he moved Lalo's money, IF it was not ill gotten....and that would have to be proven before he would be liable.

Jimmy got further involved because that's the kind of client he represents and because he was too afraid of Lalo to say no. . That's what we are supposed to understand about Jimmy's character. As Mike said, Kim is made of sterner stuff.

This is a fictional construct and writers can make happen what they want to happen; it's why it's called.....Fiction! You appear to have moved into real world events. Or your idea of real world events.

Didn't he got already someone innocent killed when Lalo entered in his apartment and killed Howard?

Not sure you can blame Jimmy/Gene for that.

I think you can say he holds a lot of bloody blame considering it was their scam that put him there

They had no way of knowing Howard would come to the apartment, or, indeed, that Lalo would. In fact, Jimmy believed Lalo to be dead.

Viewers can condemn Jimmy for the sins he commits but not for something he was not compliant in and was helpless to prevent, in my opinion. Kim admits her culpability; it's why she was so tortured later and why she left the legal profession....and Jimmy.

Sure, he didn't know. He still played a major part in causing it. He could've prevented it by not deciding to ruin Howard's life.

Well, yeah, if he could read the future, he could do wonders. Nothing in the scam they pulled -- which was mostly Kim, by the way; remember Jimmy wanted to call it off but Kim didn't -- indicated that Howard would come to the apartment or that Lalo would, incredibly, at the same time, and kill Howard simply because he was in the way of his "talking" to Jimmy and Kim. Because that's what Lalo does: kill people.

If anyone is to blame, it's whoever failed to lock the door!

Whoever failed to lock the door didn't know they would contribute to Howard's death either. The scam still lead Howard to come to the house.

I know Jimmy was reluctant, but if he actually pulled the plug it would've been dead in the water. Kim couldn't and wouldn't do it by herself.

Obviously, either Kim or Jimmy failed to lock the door. Neither is to blame for Lalo's actions, which proves my earlier point: neither Kim nor Jimmy are responsible for what Lalo did.

The scam was a factor in Howard coming to the apartment but it did not "lead" to it as in being directly responsible. He could have phoned, he could have sued, he could have done many other things. He came to the apartment because the writers wrote it that way. They also wrote Lalo coming to the apartment at the same time, and made Lalo a psychopath who kills indiscriminately and without thought BECAUSE it set up all that followed. It's called plotting!

Jimmy being reluctant not not holding out against Kim reinforces Jimmy's character. He's a weak man, who takes the easy way. It's not surprising since that's who he's been since we've known him.

I realise that it happened because the writers made it happen. That's not a shocking revelation.

Of course, it is in character for him. That doesn't absolve him.

Jimmy's character is established from the get go. He's a thief and a con artist. He lies and misrepresents and obfuscates. It's who he is. He's careless with other people's feelings, uncaring about the damage he causes because he has a narcissist's personality.

But he's not a killer. He's not careless with people's actual lives; he doesn't wish them physical harm.

Jimmy is responsible for Howard's death the same way countless people are responsible for acts done by others that they did not/could not anticipate, intend, initiate, carry out, know about, or condone. In other words, he's not responsible.....unless you believe in the chaos theory. You know: a butterfly flapping its wings affects/causes every other event on earth. Additionally, Lalo's entrance/action was completely unpredictable to Jimmy because he thought Lalo was dead.

No one argues that Jimmy should be absolved from his other crimes.

He's not careless with people's actual lives

He suggested assassinating multiple people pretty casually in Breaking Bad. But sure, that's post-Kim.

Kim holds more direct blame because she knew Lalo was alive, obviously. Neither of them were the ones who shot him in the head, and they couldn't see the future. But they still set out to ruin his life and as a result of their shitty actions, he was there.

I agree Kim holds some blame,and certainly more than Jimmy, because she knew Lalo was alive and kept it from him. . But, as she said, she believed Mike was trailing Lalo and that "he would be caught" if he tried something. So why didn't Mike prevent this? Writer interference, that's why!

The writers wanted or needed a catastrophic event -- Lalo's brutal and cold killing of Howard -- to shake things up with Jimmy and Kim, make them see exactly what they were into...and it did, with Kim, anyway. If we believe her character, she will forever carry the guilt. She, less selfish and narcissistic than Jimmy, sees that together they are like a virus, infecting and harming those with whom they come in contact. It's also part of the reason for Jimmy's transition to Saul to Gene. He's bitter and lonely and unhappy and so he turns to the thing that feeds his ego and makes him feel smart and powerful and in control: conning people.

I mean, I agree with all this.

No, damn it. Howard was killed by Lalo. Yes, Jimmy's scam caused it, but he can't be held responsible.

Jimmy literally got Lalo, a man he knew was a murderer (of civilians!), out of jail just because he wanted the cash he would pay him. Jimmy already carries responsibility for anyone Lalo murdered after he skipped bail, but particularly for Howard considering that Jimmy's involvement in cartel business was the only link Howard would ever have to a man like Lalo. Most normal people don't work with the cartel specifically because they care enough about the people in their life not to want to put them in harm's way.

He absolutely can be held responsible, in fact that’s how the law works. If you commit a felony and that felony causes the victim to suffer greater unforeseen harm, you as the perpetrator of the initial felony are responsible for whatever misfortune befalls the victim as a direct result of your actions.

I am pretty sure the cancer guy is dead already. They gave him Barbituates, when he already had alcohol and serious cancer drugs/narcotics in his system.

If so, what is the point? Jimmy breaks into a dead guy's house. Does he go ahead and steal his personal info then? If so, does that make him feel worse or feel nothing at all? If you're right, the only point could be showing us that Jimmy has sunk to his lowest depths; he's now robbing dead people simply because he can.

Only Kim could possibly salvage Jimmy at this point, but after that phone call i don't think it's happening. It's too late

this not even Saul anymore this is Mean Gene a byproduct

ā€œWELL LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, MEAN GENEā€¦ā€

Dr. Waltbotniks Mean Gene Machine

It’s not even Gene, it’s Viktor

I think the cancer guys line of ā€œyou only go around onceā€ triggered him into going through with it. I don’t know if Gene thought he was a true POS and cheated the system or if Gene figured he’d go all-in to keep this con going.

Frankenstein reference out there?

I honestly thought he was gonna say that exact quote

Nippy is where Gene should have left it. After all that, a happy ending.

I just knew, despite all the hate that episode got, it was gonna be important to the end. Now everyone's going to enjoy that episode before it all goes to shit

I thought it was amazing. I didn’t see much hate either that’s surprised me

Tons of people calling it filler, presumably because it didn't end in a cliff hanger

It's probably those same dumb people that don't understand the genius of the fly episode.

Lmao the fly wasn't genius, no need to overcompensate

The thing is he wasn't happy, he was still the sad man who had lost access to the wealth and legacy he built up, and virtually every important person to his life either refuses to talk to him, can't talk to him, or literally unable to talk to him. He's a sad sack in Nebraska with little to look forward to, perhaps nothing. In the back of his mind he probably even knows that if he Sauls It Up, it's going to be a shadow of his former self. He gets whores, but no mansion. He is reknowned among maybe three guys, there are no advertisements teaching people they have rights.

But I suppose it's better to be reliving the grim reminder he doesn't have any better ideas then to sit back and think or maybe I can...

He’s no longer watching the tapes on his TV, he is actively going at it now since he effectively has nothing to lose.

Doesn’t have to be. Those security guards seemed to be nice guys who he could of maybe been friends with.

He wants a certain life. He wants the credit, he wants the money, he wants the recognition

Hello, it looks like you've made a mistake.

It's supposed to be could've, should've, would've (short for could have, would have, should have), never could of, would of, should of.

Or you misspelled something, I ain't checking everything.

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It sounds literal too, like a nip of his old life just for old times sake, he could have relocated but he didn’t. He had his cake now he wants too much.

Couldnt keep his hands off the chicanery drawer.

LMAO! I said ā€œchicaneryā€ the other day to someone and they looked at me like, ummmm what did you say??

It's a writer's word. No one actually uses that word in conversation.

Which is why it has become a trope on message boards.

I've dated three, three English professors. One of them really brought out my vocabulary and it stuck. I use words like "chicanery" and "niggardly" when I probably shouldn't.

Yeah you probably shouldn’t lol

...maybe not that second one, pal. :-/

It’s etymology has nothing to do with what you might be thinking just FYI

yeah that will probably make everything go over smooth when he tries this out in public lol

ā€œACTUALLY, if you look up the etymology of the word, you will find that it is quite inoffensiveā€ he exclaims proudly, seconds before the punch connects with his jaw.

I remember a professor recently being let go by his university for using the word ā€œniggardlyā€ in a totally correct way. They, like most, thought he was using some kind of racial slur. I hope he got his job back.

Honestly that professor should just get with the times

You mean allowing people to misinterpret and misconstrue what he meant without having the chance to defend himself in a matter that was totally blown out of proportion? Yeah, I would avoid the use of a word that sounds like a racial slur, too, but he wasn’t smiling into a camera suggestively when he said it, wondering if he was getting away with something.

Some things are not worth it

niggardly

I must know what this word means

brb

edit it's funnier than I expected

niggardly:

ungenerous with money, time, etc.; mean."he accused the Government of being unbelievably niggardly"

gosh. the jokes about obama in the senate during his two terms, gosh

Reminds me of that Aziz standup.

"Like yeah, you use "niggardly" when you want to use a fancy word for cheap or stingy, right? Well it feels like you could've just used cheap or stingy!"

uh what, thats how reddit shuts down your account you should probobly delete that

Happy Cake Day ChillinInChernobyl! Today you are you, that is truer than true. There is no one alive who is youer than you.

Reddit shuts down my account for saying things like "the January 6 insurrection was led by traitors who should face the death penalty for their crimes".

You need a hobby or something man if thats all you talk about

Well that's a new word for me that I'm slightly concerned is still recognized by modern dictionaries.

Niggardly is a good one (it predates what most people probably immediately think about, but don't let that stop cancel culture). From the New Oxford American Dictionary: ā€œThe words niggard and niggardly have no connection with the highly offensive term nigger...ā€ (Etymology: ā€œlate Middle English: alteration of earlier nigon, probably of Scandinavian origin.ā€)

I always liked ā€œslaveyā€ (which I’ve only ever seen in Sherlock Holmes novels): ā€œnoun (plural slaveys) British informal, dated
a maidservant, especially a hard-worked one: you think it's safe to leave the household slaveys with our gear?ā€

People not liking niggardly happened way before the idea of "cancel culture" existed. It's just a word that didn't age well like "Fucking, Austria". Fucking, Austria changed their name last year to Fugging after 1,000 years. Things like that happen. Try not to get bent out of shape about it.

Smh can't even use obscure words that no one will understand but sound extremely similar to racial slurs these days, so much for the tolerant left..

Both good words but not often heard in ordinary conversation. If you're talking to academics now, about academic subjects or simply academic discourse, then yeah: much more likely.

Habitual readers tend to have a more advanced vocabulary and it often shows. Nothing at all wrong with that!

Hrmm. I've for sure heard both of those words, and the latter one more frequently (sadly), and in some parts of the world (like Louisiana), the latter one is not used exactly as it was intended, at all. I'm sure you can deduce the general way it is meant when said around these parts.

The Danish/Middle English roots of the word niggardly don't matter :-)

Most socially aware better call Saul viewer

Perfect fit for Charles McGill, he was the kind of person who would have that kind of vocabulary.

I was like, ā€œare you watching better call Saul? No? Ok disregard.ā€

BUT a BCS fan would have busted out laughing and been like, I knew it was 1216! One after Magna Carta!

And he gets to manage a Cinnabon? What a sick joke!

I was batting for Gene to say the iconic "We're done when I say we're done" in response to Jeff!

And he gets to be a Cinnabon manager?!

Even Marion showed glimpses of worry. She feels that something is out of place... she feels that Gene is out of place. Something in the nippy air.

This is probably the best well-crafted theory about the nature of these last three episodes I've read so far. I want to add something else that could be related: the true nature of the video tapes and the black-and-white scenes.

Chuck, Howard, Lalo, the Salamanca family, Gus, Mike, Lydia, Jack, and Walt are all dead. Skyler and Jesse don't want to have anything to do with all of this. Kim is either of these two things. Essentially, the story of Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul is over. Every plot thread is finished and the remaining living characters have moved on. That's why the Gene scenes are in black-and-white, even with other characters that are not with him. The world of Breaking Bad is devoid of color since there is no nothing to tell anymore. With the end of the main story, everyone moved on and went back to their boring lives. That's why the scene of Francesca in her apartment was so important.

However, there is someone who refuses to move on: Jimmy. He relives his old adventures trying to find some sense in his life, which is conveyed through the tape intros that get progressively worse. In the intro of Nippy, it's clear that the story is finished at the end of the tape. However, in the intro of Breaking Bad, he rewinds the tape and tries to play his old adventures and feel the thrill once again. What Gene is living is essentially a purgatory where he makes the same mistakes over and over, even if there is no purpose anymore.

This is the point I think Gould, Schnauz, and Gilligan are trying to come across with the finale: the nature of a spin-off. What happens when there is nothing else to tell? Do you keep extending it even if there is no point? Do you make your characters repeat what already went through? Do you add more information you never knew you needed? Its an expression of their own struggles on try to find things for these characters to keep doing.

I don't want to exaggerate, but this ending has the potential to surpass the one from Breaking Bad. It's genius on so many levels.

ā€œYour man, he’s like la cucaracha.ā€

The one creature that will still be there after it all blows up.

I had the same thought reading this, you beat me to it. Jesse and Saul are the only two who survived everything (except Kim but she wasn’t as embedded and made a clean exit)… Can you imagine these scenes, but about Jesse in Alaska? No, his story is wrapped up. Escaping is his resolution.

But Jimmy? No. He’s going to keep going, and going, and going. He’s always going to be a loose end.

When it comes to Jesse, he was more than happy to just fuck off and live a new life, thats the core difference between him and Saul. Saul lost practically everything and has no hopes or plans of getting it back or just simply starting a new life, seeing Nebraska as more of a prison that limits him completely.

Jesse is a polar opposite of this. He WANTS to have a new life, he wants to finally move on and not look back anymore. Sure he's not getting Andrea back and he has a pretty traumatic past, but he can finally put it behind him. Thats not something Gene can currently do, he almost managed to do it but then Francessca told him about Kim and that spiraled out of control.

Maybe Kim is the real loose end, via Jimmy.

what.. what do you mean by that?

He called himself Saul Goodman, yet here he is, the lone character proving that it is not.

Well to be fair ā€œShits Fuckedā€ doesn’t make for good Lawyer billboards

Better Call Shits

What a sick joke!

He'll never change! Always the same!

Not our precious Jimmy!

To be fair though, Jesse does have most his life ahead of him. He can start over.

For Jimmy it's a bit late to be anything but (essentially) Gene Takovic.

Holy shit. Lalo was so fucking right.

We knew about Gene when he said it. It was obvious.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

ā€œYour man, he’s like la cucaracha.ā€

The one creature that will still be there after it all blows up.

That quote is another reason to think he might not die/go to jail. Slippin' Jimmy finds a way to keep crawling around, even after the bomb drops and it Saul Gone.

ā€œThe world [post-] Breaking Bad is devoid of color.ā€ So, everything pre-Gene is in color. When Gene watches the tapes, he’s in black and white and the intros reflect on his glasses in color.

I'm so calling him Gabe now.

Shut up about the sun!

It is genius.

BraVinceSchnauzo

This is amazing, very insightful, this is one of the best thread I've read in this sub.

You can tell these geniuses have earned a rich education in storytelling from the comic book movies, video games, and pornography they consume every second.

Junk media is to Zoomers what cigarettes were to Boomers.

Is everything okay?

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With all these other people? Clearly not.

With me? Of course.

From comments I’ve seen, you seem like a real angry motherfucker

When you have a problem with almost everyone, consider that you may be the problem.

I considered it.

The problem is still everyone else.

Haha well enjoy suffering from your cynicism.

Shut your MOUTH

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR OTHER PEOPLE'S VIEWS I JUST WANT TO BE ON REDDIT BY MYSELF OKAY?!?!

lol

Don't laugh at me, smart aleck...

You've never played a video game in your life yet in your philosophy they (along with marvel movies) are the things numbing our youth.

I SAID I wanna be left alone okay? Goddamn. Don't reply to my posts I want to talk by myself right now!!!

You’re mentally ill šŸ˜‚

That's not appropriate dude.

You need to fucking learn to be respectful. NOW!!!!!!

You gotta learn how reverse psychology works. If you want people to stop responding, you first stop responding yourself.

I don't want you to stop responding. I want to continue cursing at you.

cigarettes are all there is, in art and art criticism. if you know of art that amounts to more, show us, because we obviously need the media that deserves the analysis you think BCS doesn't.

Similar to Memento? Where Guy Pearces’ character just keeps going because it’ll give him something to do?

Yeah... or like Vic Mackey in "The Shield" - that final scene of the series... he walks away from the desk job, he'll never be done with 'the streets' etc.

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How many recycling bins did Meadow hit for Tony to react that badly

Maybe its a more obvious answer but this is also why the story isn’t some crazy action packed all hell breaking loose scenario. It still may be by the end but overall, right now, everyone’s dead and/or gone. Those storylines are over, burned down if you will.

I hope you all are creating art or at least something that comes close to it.
Very well thoughts!

I love that this show makes us think about the nature of storytelling. That's absolutely what they're doing now.

I think the black and white is because Kim has gone. He keeps trying to bring colour back in his life by doing what used to bring that colour and excitement. It works with the extravagant colour of 'Saul' the character. He takes the character beyond colour with flashy suits to try and bring that feeling of what he had before when Kim was around and he was Saul, but it isn't there because Kim has gone. It was never the scams, it was how close he and Kim were when doing them. They were never overly close or loving in day to day life because they were so busy or on separate paths. The scams put them on the same path.

My guess is Kim comes back, she feels exactly the same. The colour has been gone from her life while they've been apart, and they get together.

But that's what I guess!

The sad thing is, I see it that way because I split with a girl in the exactly the same way, and it's how I feel in a way!

A girl broke up with you because one of your scams resulted in somebody being murdered?

/u/ad1075 girlfriend was an air traffic controller. They killed far more than one person.

Was she distracted because her dad overdosed?

We saw post-Kim scenes in color though

But they weren't post BB scenes. That's the key.

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After seven years, it's obvious you'll start to struggle to keep writing things for your characters. Not even the punch line for the call to Francesca was planned. While it remains a work of passion, it's obvious that at some point you still have to figure out to keep moving the story along, even if you are eventually going to hit a brick wall. It's not like Gould and gang hate the show and want to stop writing, but it's simply a reflection of how hard can it be to keep moving a story along when you reach a certain point.

Gilligan and Gould started working on this while Breaking Bad was still airing. They’ve been deep in this world for nearly fifteen years. At a certain point, you’ve said all you have to say.

I think the story is they finished working on Breaking Bad, the final edit, on Friday, and then started pre-production of Better Call Saul that Monday.

At a certain point, you’ve said all you have to say

The line "what else is there to say" is repeated in this season (once from Nacho's dad, once from Judge Casimiro). Definitely drove home the sense of finality hanging over everything.

I think the ending was truly, originally "Nippy".

From the beginning they said they didn't want the show to run longer than Breaking Bad for whatever reason, one of which I believe to be PR and respect for the original show. They always knew the end was coming, just not how and at what pace they would get to it.

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My guess is they did not have control over the number of episodes, that that was all Netflix, and for advertising/monetary reasons....which is usually the reason for everything.

Netflix isn't making Better Call Saul, they just distribute it outside the US.

Yeah, yeah, I know. I meant AMC. But congrats on being the 4th person to point this out. ;-)

Netflix does not have a say over the production of Better Call Saul.

Regardless, I doubt the choice of an additional 3 episodes was something out of the hands of the writers and producers. They're closing the book on a six-season story and needed/wanted the additional runtime to tell their story.

Yeah, I meant AMC. I'll correct that, if I can find it again.

AMC decides all that. Not Netflix

Sorry, I meant AMC. I'm also commenting on OZARK, which is a Netflix show.

Do you keep extending it even if there is no point? Do you make your characters repeat what already went through? Do you add more information you never knew you needed? Its an expression of their own struggles on try to find things for these characters to keep doing.

If true, this is very self conscious writing. It actually breaks the fourth wall. Why would this creative team do this?

It’s only the title sequences that really break the fourth wall. The rest is a question of interpretation.

Well, I disagree, but that's what the message boards are....partially....for.

True, true. And fun to discuss. Especially a show we love so much.

Several possible reasons

  1. They're legitimately trying to destroy the franchise before they're forced to either do this again or watch someone else try. You know, like how Aliens/Jurassic Park/Terminator 2/etc. keep having sequels that go back to "the last good one" because no one wants a sequel to Alien 3/Jurassic Park 2/Terminator 3.

  2. They legitimately wanted to remind people that surviving and living are two different things, and Gene may know well enough the game is over- but he'd rather go out with a flame out than a whimper.

  3. They really, really like working with Odenkirk and this was the loophole that got him more episodes even though this is the last season.

Thinking about reason 1 through the lens of the popular belief about how nothing new and original can be made anymore, at least with shows and movies. I'm kinda one of those people on that side, with the most popular blockbusters these days being sequels, remakes, biopics, screen-adapted comics, etc. Breaking Bad gave us a universe that wasn't adapting anything, just an original, brilliant idea. If the creators milk it for too long, it'll lose it's magic and there's less inspiration to make something new and original but just as creative as the BB universe. I want to believe that it's a statement on popular culture.

I think Alien 3 is really underrated. It's not as goods alien or aliens but I think it still holds it's weight, unlike the atrocity of a film that came after it.

Where there's $$ involved, it's less likely they want to destroy a franchise....but anything is possible.

I think they were committed to X number of episodes. Viewers complain about filler but nothing says filler more than the scene with Gus in the bar. It establishes his character and I liked it, but it doesn't advance the plot one iota.

No. 3 is also a distinct possibility. In my opinion.

If something is important to understanding a character better, how would it be filler? That's the only time we saw Gus genuinely try to enjoy himself and he couldn't even do that.

Depends on when and where it occurs, in my opinion. Had they had this scene much earlier, when we first met Gus, it would make sense....although, I'm not sure we ever needed to know that Gus was a wine connoisseur. We already knew who Gus was; we saw it from his demeanor and dress, his interaction with others, including the hapless Kyle, and by the few scenes we saw of him in his own house: cold, precise, contained, controlled, ruthless.

If you think BCS is about advancing the plot, I don't even know what to say. Did you not pay attention to any other season? The show is primarily a CHARACTER focused show.

All fiction/stories are about advancing the plot. Otherwise, why have one?

Characters are an important part of any fiction/story, but plot is the machine that moves it from a to b.

If you don't know that, I do't even know what to say.

Okay, that was a cheap shot and unnecessary.....just as yours was. Apologies.

because they watched twin peaks the return, duh.

If true, this is very self conscious writing. It actually breaks the fourth wall. Why would this creative team do this?

For the same reason countless other writers and artists have done self-conscious, fourth wall-breaking work since at least the 60s. It might not be to your taste, but it's considered a perfectly acceptable technique.

I made no judgment about it. I simply pointed out what it is in response to the OP's comment, and questioned why tv writers would do it.

Yes, many writers engage in self conscious writing and break the fourth wall. But it's usually in literature, not a television series.

The finale of Breaking Bad also introduced some self conscious elements. Not so much about writing/storytelling, but about TV as a medium: It starts with TV static (close up of snow on car window), Walt's scenes are edited in a way where he's somehow there and not there etc. I see similarities in style.

Not too surprising since both series had the same creators/show runners.

Eric Andre meme Why would the creative team do this?

We are watching El Camino

Better Call Saul is over, now what’s left is an epilogue much like El Camino was for Breaking Bad.

I have a feeling Kim is going to indirectly be the final casualty of Jimmy's/Saul's/Gene's destructive and non-redemptive arc.

We're really not going to like what we see.

We're pulling back the curtain right now with these last 3 episodes. We're going to learn that Walter/Heisenburg would never have gotten where he is without Saul's direct involvement and influence, and as a result so many people suffer/die as a result.

Chuck, Howard, Lalo, the Salamanca family, Gus, Mike, Lydia, Jack, and Walt are all dead. Skyler and Jesse don't want to have anything to do with all of this. Kim is either of these two things.

I worry it's going to be the former. Saul being the last man standing to suffer the consequences of his actions, while everyone else either "gets out" or dies.

That conversation we don't hear on the phone when Gene tries reaching out to Kim is perhaps him being "too late".


Wild card prediction:

!Kim OD's on dat blue meth. šŸ˜…!<

Saul should never have walked into that school at the end of episode 6.11.

This is a plot point I have proposed several times and is so beautifully thematic and terrifying and it completely ties into why we are seeing Saul's influence on Heisenberg in these flashbacks. Can you imagine how disturbing is that Jimmy essentially destroys Kim's life bit by bit because he wanted to do business with someone he saw potential?

I don't know if they are going to take that route 100% but it's so such a heartbreaking ending that aligns completely with what has been building up about Kim and Jimmy's characters and what the cast and writing team has been building up. I personally think that the ending will be only about Jimmy: he is now alone and helpless to face the music.

I think El Camino already illustrated the point of "story's over, what do we do now?" much better lol

Honestly doesn't seem like that much of a happy ending for Jesse as they make it out to be at the end of El Camino. I'm genuinely curious what a recovering drug addict with PTSD and no friends or family or money is going to do in Alaska? Like how do you rebuild your life from there or find meaning in anything?

He likely became a woodworker out there. The only dream from his past that hasn't been smashed to bits by reality.

Oh wow how did I not realize this haha there are plenty of trees and shit in Alaska.

At the very least it's a blank slate? He can finally put things that were actively poisoning his existence behind him.(Heisenberg, The Nazis, drugs) and actually have stability for once

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Is that just because of the male/female ratio or is there something else I’m missing?

Alaska is 52% male, so I'd hazard a guess this only happens in the really remote areas. Most Alaskans live in or near the handful of small cities up there.

just women like the d is all.

He will become friends with a man named Dexter who will eventually find out about his past crimes.

Jesse can still make a new story for himself. Saul’s is already written because he just can’t move on.

El Camino adequately showed that Jesse's story wasn't quite over yet.

What Gene is living is essentially a purgatory where he makes the same mistakes over and over, even if there is no purpose anymore.

beautifully said.

I can't believe I'm lucky enough to be experiencing this live.

The world of Breaking Bad is devoid of color since there is no nothing to tell anymore.

Which is genius because colour theory is so important to the show. No wonder Seahorn called this arc disturbing

As someone that was super mixed on the ending of Breaking Bad, I really hope BCS sticks the landing. I'm glad everyone realized a Nippy style ending wouldn't have been satisfying as a full on ending and added these last three episodes.

Mind blowing commentary, seriously I can’t look at the show the same now.

Saw this theory on the post-episode thread and loved it. Even incorporates the intro change beautifully.

It's no surprise that 6.10 had such a feeling of finality because in reality, 6.10 is the perfect situation for Gene. He's gotten comfortable enough to not have to look over his shoulder anymore, got one last score in to satisfy himself, and has all the money he would ever need thanks to the diamonds.

But it's not enough. It's never enough. He can't be content with the life he has at the end of 6.10 because it doesn't fulfill that need to prove his ability, to beat down that insecurity he's had for so long. Jimmy never dealt with that feeling of people always looking down for what he was (is?) as "Slippin' Jimmy" and it fuels every bad decision he makes throughout the series. He NEEDS to show that he can be successful on his terms, because everyone else has already decided that those are the only terms he abides by.

This is why the Kim thread still nags on him IMO. Kim is someone Jimmy deeply respects who accepted him and his methods as legitimate, and he's never really found that acceptance anywhere else. When Kim rejects him on the call (or he doesn't end up speaking to her, either or) he lashes out and continues with the schemes in an effort to prove himself again, legitimize himself in his eyes.

Wait, diamonds?

we saw Gene take some diamonds out of a hidden box and pour them on his coffee table in an earlier season, implying he still has access to a significant amount of his money from his Saul era

Francesca confirms this too. We also don't know how much cash he has on hand. I'm not even sure why 'Gene' even keeps the cinnabon job, I guess as cover (he doesn't have enough cash in his accounts to retire without suspicion). Even if pawned/fenced at a steep cut Gene has enough money to live comfortably indefinitely.

100% it's cover and to give some structure to his life, so he doesn't go crazy.

After watching the sopranos, and seeing that Vito was burning through his cash at an alarming rate, I wouldn’t be surprised is Gene still needs the Cinnabon paycheck. Because once the diamonds are gone, they’re gone forever.

While I agree, I'd think Saul made much more than Vito had access to, Vito had what? 200k or something?

The issue is pawning/fencing it, I think. He would have done it a while ago if he could.

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I think trying to convert diamonds to cash is a bit different then selling to a forger

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Assuming those are cut diamonds, they’re laser engraved. Try selling them to a pawnshop, you’ll get IDd, cops show up after they trace em. Sell em to someone else and they sell it too- cops. Need someone to clean them for you? Expensive, and requires someone who can move them on to unknowning buyers, so he winds up selling them for a fraction of what they’re worth, which sounds like a loss he wouldn’t take.

The IDs are handed off to a guy who does all the extra work, they just pick targets and take pictures. Jimmy doesn’t even get his hands really dirty, he just chats people up and pretends to drink.

And who'd want a job where you have to have an official ID and social security number, and bank account. Thats just too much out there that you can get caught by. Made more sense to go WAY off grid and live off cash, just dont buy too much at once.

Yeah I'm honestly not sure, but I'm also not an expert in witness relocation / hiding people lol. Walt was totally off-grid. At least Gene has social interaction I guess, can shop, go to the movies.

And Saul broke the office wall and breaks out a duffel full of money when he started to go on the run....

They’re in an old metal band-aids box.

Didn't he also store his coins in a metal band aid box in the ceiling of the store?

It's the same box

yep! opening in either end of season 3 or beginning of season 4

Good question. Not sure. Maybe someone else can chime in.

I too am confused about the diamonds

In the S5 Gene cold-open he goes into a hiding spot in his house and pulls out a velvet drawstring pouch and pours out a load of diamonds.

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I always thought people were freaking out too much about those diamonds. Itā€˜s just way easier to hide a dozen diamonds than thousands of dollars lol

What was he supposed to do? Lug millions of dollars around in a duffel bag like some idiot? He wanted a 1000 dollar bill and diamonds suit this need nicely.

Yes, plus a large chunk of the cash he had on hand will have gone to pay the vacuum guy (as well as Francesca).

Yet when Gene called for the eventually aborted 2nd evac, he was willing to pay twice as much. So he's got at least whatever that amount is.

Yep. Not sure if that includes diamond cash value or not but it's a ton of cash regardless (vacuum guy only takes cash on delivery and Gene was confident he could pay it).

He have diamonds stored in his house. It's shown on the episode he calls the cleaner guy again

He has a bunch of diamonds in an first aid kit, presumably worth a lot of money in universe (in reality diamonds don't have that much resale value though is my understanding)

Diamonds absolutely get marked up considerably at retail, but if you’ve ever worked with a wholesaler (I’ve purchased stones for rings and jewelry), diamonds actually hold their value pretty well. Most quality diamonds are GIA certified and literally have a serial number engraved into them that’s traceable. If they are good cut, color, carat, etc it’s a very good way to transport large amounts of cash.

Again, this is all under the assumption that he got them at wholesale value and converted his wealth without much of a markup. When I bought my wife her engagement ring, I met a diamond dealer my family has used for years. The guy keeps a booth in the diamond district in NYC. He works by appointment only. He keeps nothing on display. In his shirt pocket he probably had 1 million easily in little envelops and tissue to show us. Certainly he marks up the stones so he can make a profit, but it’s nothing like going to a jeweler.

Gene had a lot of what looked like very nice diamonds. The resale value is a lot less than what you'd buy those for at retail, but they're still pretty valuable, my amatuer guess would be that Gene could pick up a couple hundred grand for the lot.

He has a bunch of diamonds in an first aid kit, presumably worth a lot of money in universe (in reality diamonds don't have that much resale value though is my understanding)

They have resale value but only with tracable documentation proving their provenance. The diamonds effectively need laundering to get them back into the system.

Yeah he could find a guy like he did the guy he was selling the rich people's identities to and get the diamonds into the system. Even if said guy took 50% of the value he'd still have a lot in his bag.

I don’t think it ever felt like finality without the Kim thread. Of course it nags on him. There was nothing perfect about 6.10 if the only person who every accepted him and can make him feel complete again is out there still.

It’s not a theory really.

Amazing analysis.

I got major Finding Frances vibes from this episode, for anyone who’s a Nathan For You fan. Beyond the meta context of the show, there’s the question of what comes next for Gene? The honesty with the security guard in Nippy puts us in Gene’s head: he is empty and without meaning or purpose enough to keep him moving forward with this new life.

He confirmed with Francesca that he’ll have to remain hidden and won’t have new revenue streams, but that financially, he’s set enough to live out a peaceful life in a Omaha. But that’s not enough for him, so he grasps at any lingering threads from his previous lives and tries to insert himself, give himself a purpose again. Most notably with Kim, and while we haven’t seen the full context of their conversation and the intervening years between her leaving and 2010, it seems that Kim doesn’t want anything to do with this version of Jimmy. All things considered, Gene has a pretty solid afterlife: stable amount of money, a low-key day job with sweet cinnamon perks, and a thrilling nightlife of scamming lonely rich guys. But it’s not enough. Like Walt, it will never be enough for Gene, so he goes a step too far into what an believe will be his downfall.

On an unrelated note, have you seen Nathan’s new show The Rehearsal? It’s like he took Finding Frances (amazing ep) and turned it into a whole series. It’s fantastic.

Nathan Fielder is a fucking genius

He went to college and got excellent grades.

Not excellent.

Really good.

At one of Canada's top business schools

Yes, I absolutely love it. Door city over here!

ā€œThere’s sacrifices?! I thought it was just trick or treating.ā€

ā€œOh ok.ā€

The only thing is the ethical dilemma of his shows. It hinges on featuring... not the brightest of folk. So we'll never have a cool or 'self aware' mark because the whole premise is based on not knowing who he is. And most of those people are not connected to pop culture. So while super interesting absurdist humor, there's a moral conundrum in how it's achieved - that we're laughing at the unaware. And yes, there are moments of redemption. But how much do these people know and approve that they're our entertainment? It's something I can't help cringe at for unsavory-ness of it all (as opposed to the more lighthearted cringe stuff.) Particularly at The Rehearsal with children involved.

That said, the poop yogurt episode of NFY can stay.

I always end up talking about this with whoever I watch the show with! It make for really interesting discussion. I do wonder how much of it really is unaware, not-bright folks who really believe him or if he is disclosing a little more to them than he's letting on to his audiences. All these people must give consent to be filmed, so there's got to be some sort of dialogue about how they're going to be on a TV show, but how much? Do these people ever end up watching the show and get that it's totally mocking them? Or are they just a super gifted actors?? I can't tell!!

But while the show is definitely centered on not-so-subtly ridiculing these hilariously silly people, I feel like there is also a genuine, earnest attempt to help them with these projects? It's almost sweet to watch Nathan humor everything they say and really try to get them to resolve these things that bother them.

Such unique and interesting show!

It's epsiodes like 6Ɨ07 I curse the chineese for inventing gun powder

even before scamming the rich guys, being a cinnabon manager couldn't be that bad could it? (with all the money he has of course)

I can see the monotony of it, and working any customer service job is hell.

But damn if those scenes don’t make we want to be wrist deep in dough on the daily.

If that was all I had for the rest of my life I might end it honestly

don't underestimate how soul-crushing these dead-end jobs are especially for american minimum wage

Sweet cinnamon perks. Awesome

Francesca hung up abruptly and we didn't see her hang up the phone. Wonder if that ties in? Wouldn't Kim's work phone also be bugged?

He has his security guard buddies with whom he can talk 'husker football, too!

We thought this final season would feel rushed with how much ground they had to cover, but they somehow ended the show before it actually did and so the last 3 episodes are a strange meta-limbo.

It's like the writers broke the fifth-wall. It's tripping me out. I've never even seen anything like this

you said it perfectly

I'm still in awe of how different the show's been between Jimmy and Gene, and now we're getting a third side of this show.

They've perfected storytelling and cinematography, now they're pushing beyond that.

Twin Peaks: The Return

Exactly what I’m thinking. Reading the last paragraph gave me chills bc it’s just so similar to the structure of the Return. David Lynch once again changed TV forever with The Return. I wouldn’t be surprised if Vince was inspired by that show.

The original Twin Peaks series was a monumental change to TV dramas. The show itself serving as a meta narrative of society's love for bloodshed and horror, yet also as a satire of dramas of the time, most TV dramas after Twin Peaks aired have basically copied their style from it. X-Files would not be the same without it, the show that made Vince Gilligan

Twin Peaks: The Return serves as a culmination of its own creation, rubbing its point into the viewers face, of which us as the viewer never really getting the point. The Fireman can say that it is happening again, but like Dale in the Roadhouse we remain oblivious to the warning.

Gene sees the warnings, yet cannot heed them as he wants the show to go on. He wants the bloodshed and horrors of the world he created to go on, for that's all he really knows

I wanted to use words instead of just an upvote to let you to know how much I enjoyed this comment

I was thinking about The Return this whole episode. It gave me the same type of uncomfortable meta nostalgia that The Return did. It’s creepy but I can’t get enough!

This is exactly what i have been thingking!

Reminds me of twin peaks the return finale

Fans, trying to piece together the timeline based on license plates, Cinnabon boxes, handicapped tags, and football conversations:

What year is this?

Dang, couldn't quite word it myself, but you are spot on!

The last two Gene episodes were kinda all over the place. I didnt expect the Gene timeline to get back into crime..so i have no idea how this will end for him. Probably not good.

I think this show and breaking bad will be studied in classes in the future.

I already do, I teach illustration at a university in my hometown for a Concept Art major and we look at BCS shots for composition and lighting all of the time :)

It’s ground breaking it terms of film making, it’s left me with a particular, certain feeling/aura that I’ve never felt before.

The sheer ambition of it. I have never seen anything like it either, coming of the end of THAT season break, just wow.

To me, it’s art.

I get the feeling Vince and all other creative minds involved thought doing a Saul prequel was dumb and made no sense, but they accepted the challenge and accomplished the impossible because they’re just too damn good at their jobs.

Limbo is spot on. The main characters in both series get their karma. Walt deserves death. Jesse is almost destroyed but has a chance at redemption. Saul is in limbo / purgatory. Oof.

I couldn't have summed it up better.

This is surreal. I'm losing myself in thinking about what may happen next...

Something tells me in a binge watching episode 11 into 12 is going to be insane. Something about that final transitional shot of Saul/Gene ruining their future is going to hit different when you roll right into whatever disaster we're going to see next monday.

Oh shit I'm going to lovehate the ending, I know.

Beautifully said, and I wanna add that the reason it works so fucking well is because (speaking at least for myself) no one is truly ready for it to end. I feel like the one in a relationship that still is in love when the other is trying to end things.

It's like the writers broke the fifth-wall. It's tripping me out. I've never even seen anything like this

Literally.

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You can stop watching any time

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You made it through the first few seasons but find the most recent episode boring? Make it make sense.

A better idea might be to bitch and moan about the ending of a fantastic show that you've sunk 50+ hours into without anything constructive to add.

You can pretend the show ended wherever you choose.

What is this, the Dark Tower?

THE FIFTH WALL OF TIME

Reminds me of Cormac McCarthy's The Road.

A few survivors wandering around in the desolate ruins of what was once a coherent world.

Time no longer has forward direction. There's no progress, just a long, meaningless unspooling into nothingness that no one should be there to see.

A moment that felt like it supports the comparison is when Francesca is at the phone booth at the abandoned gas station at the edge of the desert. Later, Saul kicks out the glass on a phone booth. It's like it doesn't matter because, for Jimmy, there's no world anymore, and there's no one left to make things matter.

honestly eps 8 and 9 feel like they moved too fast wrapping up the jimmy story for me, i would’ve loved a 14 episode season to let that play out a bit slower. but the past two episodes have been fantastic and i can’t wait to see how these last two wrap it up

A bleak thought that we’re all running out of tape.

As long as the climate lasts for 2 more weeks, it's all good man.

i need the climate to last for about 8 months more. Wanna watch the TLoU show before it's all over lol

We always have been.

Modest Mouse sang it best

Everyone's a building burning With no one to put the fire out. Standing at the window looking out, Waiting for time to burn us down.

Great analysts!! Just one point of disagreement.

I don’t think Gene ā€œforgotā€ about Kim or to ask about her. He didn’t want to ask because he’d knew he’d be disappointed, but he kept on the line waiting and hoping for Francesca to tell him what he wants to hear. It’s another case of, despite the series being over, and knowing that he can’t push to hard into unknown plot threads, he leaves the line open, let’s the episode continue to play.

I disagree, I don’t think he forgot to ask about her or was waiting for Francesca to bring her up- I think it didn’t even cross his mind to ask about Kim.

I mean, at this point in the show they probably haven’t spoken to each other in 6 years and he knows she moved out of the state, why would he ask Francesca about someone that neither of them have seen in over half a decade?

With the same logic, why would he ask about Huell and the others?

Those were the last people he spent time with before disappearing, it makes more sense than asking for someone he hasn’t seen since 2004

Very well written take that I agree with.

I would just add in -- regarding the blue "REC" VHS intros, a little more analysis --

The show has used the act of "taping over" a previous recording as a metaphor for what Jimmy has been doing with his personality. He records an entirely new persona over the last one, causing the tape to degrade a bit each time and eventually, the new recording seems less and less like the original.

Gene has more or less been in purgatory until last episode, resigned to rewatching these old Saul VHS tapes and longing for the past.

But starting with Nippy, we see the intro theme switch to the "RECORD" feature. We are now witnessing, in real time, Jimmy again attempt to overwrite his personality with a new persona as he slips into crime with Jeff and Buddy. In fact, the new version has a bit more menace to him -- maybe picking up on some of Walter White's brash traits for this new recording? Either way, that quality is so worn down at this point I think another overwrite would destroy the whole tape for good. If he would have just stopped at the end of 6x10 by walking away from the flashy Saul shirt left hanging on the rack, he could have salvaged some of his soul and lived a quiet life of reflection, maybe redemption? But he didn't do that, as you said, and its like he's on borrowed time now.

In fact, the new version has a bit more menace to him -- maybe picking up on some of Walter White's brash traits for this new recording?

absolutely. He is much more committed and brutal, willing to risk people's lives by drugging them. He had no problem drugging a cancer patient, for him he's just another pawn in his plan. The man even looks like Walt with his old-timey glasses and moustache and I'm also confident I also saw some of the same mannerisms. He even has his own Jesse, in the form of Jeff.

Jeff & Jesse, the names even sound similar, this is getting to be like a rehash/sped up version of Breaking Bad. Gene finds the need to make money, after receiving bad news of his legacy being gone, makes lots of money, now wants more, will have a downfall of some sort, and then his demise plus some redemption perhaps e.g the ā€œSaul Goneā€ final episode.

Gene refers to him as Jeffie too

He's also stacking money under the sink like Walt used to do with his drug money.

I bet Gene will die in the next episode. Something unexpected happens, like police show up, or the cancer guy catches him and shoots him.

Let’s not forget that Gene/Saul is only a few months removed from poisoning a child at his elementary school.

Reminds me of how Walt used to take on a trait from the people he killed - crusts cut off, scotch neat, towel to kneel on in the bathroom.

Now Gene is carrying that on by taking on an aspect of Walt, after having helped lead him to his death.

He drinks his scotch with ice

After Hank died he drank it straight

He changed prefrence but I don't remember which he started as.

He did have it on ice at first, which I think he got from Mike. When Hank was all devastated that Fring exploded, Walt had a drink with him at Hank’s house and it was on the rocks.

He's taking on the aspect of taking on aspects

The tape element reminded me of all the commercials he used to make too, trying on different personas and approaches based on where he was

Good eye.

It does say REC.

felt like OP's was a bit of a stretch but I really like this interpretation

Yep. He wants that comeback. He is now Mean Gene (until he gets a new name) and is back to the Slipping Jimmy ways doing the scams, but this time the scams will pay much more. But he wants it so bad, he is reckless now, by breaking into the cancer guys house. It will not end well.

Borrowed time, like three more episodes for another season that typically had 10.

What if the the final episode is home video that plays out from the titles on? New footage recorded over the old?

This theory is galaxy brain level. Such an interesting read and thoughtful analysis. This sub never ceases to amaze me with its diligence and ability to read between the lines. My appreciation for this show is at an all time high with all the analyzing going on in this final stretch!

One of the things I really enjoy about this sub is that it does give me so much more "between the lines" that I can conceptualise by myself. It really gives that extra layer of appreciation of the art.

for real. I feel like I have some pretty solid media literacy but the theories people post on here go absolutely beyond anything my pea brain can come up with

same. i feel like i'm a critical consumer of media too, but then i come on here and i'm completely humbled. i sometimes have difficulty expounding and articulating my thoughts so i really appreciate posts like this.

My only question is ... did the show creators intend for this or is it a happy accident? And, in the end, does it matter?

I love this analysis, very insightful

Almost positive this is what they are going for after reading your initial comment as well as this post. Insane meta-commentary about not just Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul, but also the way we consume media. The Audience is Gene, never accepting an end and wanting the fun times to keep going even when everyone else has had an ending or moved on. I think in hindsight this episode, as well as the two that follow, will cause quite the video essay.

I love it. Youre so right.

I cant even add anything else

I get a Twin Peaks vibe from this, big time... punishing the viewer for their impatience and immaturity

Makes two of us. The Return was such a masterpiece, too.

I haven’t finished Twin Peaks yet, but I keep seeing these comparisons. Cant wait to come back after I do and see what you mean.

You might also want to check out Twin Perfect’s reviews on youtube after you finish it.

Excellent, excellent post that takes the change to the intro sequences that I already loved artistically but contextualizes it in a way that gives it a lot more purpose besides just being a great and interesting presentation. Among other things but I'm running late for work and stopping to read this for a minute and a half didn't help lol. But I remember you saying in some thread last night that you were going to do this post and I'm glad that you did, it's refreshing to see a great and interesting analysis of an ep like this get so much traction instead of just memes, good stuff

A+ analysis, my friend. Great read and a compelling case. I agree with you completely.

Gene - and the audience - could have let things end with Nippy. Jimmy pulls one more con to protect himself, then moves on as Gene, and while eluding the criminal justice system, faces up to the consequences of his bad decisions by living the rest of his life with his head down and his mouth shut. But he just can't let things end so simply. Neither can we.

Are you an English major or a Comparative Lit major? Film, perhaps?

He/she has got to be. This level of expert analysis is too extensive for them not to be. And the fact that they have come up with it within 24 hours of it being aired on tv speaks volumes of their ability to do it. I’m starting film and tv analysis in my second year of my media degree in university this year and the stuff I’m reading on this sub has me very excited for it.

For real, this analysis blows my mind. They touch on layers I wouldn't have even thought to explore and I can't really think of any holes that could be poked in it. I mean, it all hinges on how the next couple of episodes go, but... I'd be incredibly surprised if they don't fall into this vein.

Probably the best Reddit post I’ve read in my entire life.

Yeah, this has really blown my mind. Great analysis ... makes me feel kinda dumb though. Haha.

Love this take.

My twist on it would be: Gene is trying to escape the narrative. Actually, in some sense, every new persona he takes is trying to escape the narrative. Saul is his way out of being Jimmy McGill, Gene is his way out of being Saul... as Lalo said, he's like a cockroach, a natural survivor.

But there is no character across BCS/BB who has escaped the narrative. It's impressive that he's made it as long as he has, even to your point escaping the established meta-structure of the series... briefly

I feel elements of this as well.

It’s maybe why part of me keeps wondering if it will end with him handing himself in. Maybe doing a last cheesy ā€˜Better Call Saul!’ to get the Nebraska cops to recognize him.

In some senses it doesn’t make sense - why? What does he have to gain from that? He has a boring but relatively decent life as Gene, drinking his scotch watching TV in the evening, compared to prison. A while ago that would have maybe felt like some glorious crescendo ending redemption, but now he has drawn it out too long - it would seem pitiful and hollow. (But that could kind of be the point…).

Originally I was thinking it might be because he is tired of running, but now I don’t think he is at all - if anything that’s some of the only thrill he has left. Only it isn’t a thrill anymore, hence the frustrated almost self sabotage.
Or I think I saw someone suggest that it’s what Kim told him to do, ā€˜I won’t have anything to do with you unless…’. But I mean… ā€˜so what?’. So she can awkwardly visit him a few times in prison for the rest of his life? Clearly neither him or her would see it as some sort of moral redemption, not really, at this point - they’d both know it was as much out of glory and boredom than any moral consideration. He doesn’t get her back, but I suppose it could be an attempt to prove himself to her on some level or something.
The other option is because it means he gets to be Saul Goodman again. From a jail cell, and no one really cares other than being able to say they sent him down, but still.

But to be honest, based on the last couple of episodes… maybe all three? The characters, and Jimmy/Saul/Gene in particular, aren’t simple and static. He is multifaceted and shifting. Maybe that could in fact culminate in walking into a police station because why the fuck not at this point, like an addict trying to flush his pills down the toilet and delete his dealers number, because it’s not fun anymore.

Sure. One thing the writers have shown us is that there is always time to regain agency, no matter what you've done, even up to the very last moment, and it's always worth it to do so, even if you're only eking out a little bit of agency at the very end. (Whether or not this "makes up" for the road that brought you there is something they leave to us to debate.)

Nacho and Walter are the two biggest examples, Howard was trying in his own way despite his somewhat limited abilities, and Kim thankfully got it earlier in the cycle than they did... even Hector is in this group in some sense.

So maybe there's a way for Jimmy (or whoever the hell this walking tomb we're watching is) to do this. But, thus far he has shown none of the self-awareness that seems to be a pre-requisite for regaining agency ("I was good at it, I did it for me", "I was having too much fun"), only a gaping void that he tries to fill with money and tearing down other people.

This is a great post and if they stick the landing with the ending, maybe even a bullseye as to the entire theme of the show.

For all of his life, Jimmy has been in an inverse feedback loop, where the world rewards him for making the wrong decisions, and punishes him for the right ones. Work hard, eat shit in the mail room, do things and become a lawyer the right way, and for some reason or another, you’re gonna get blocked at every turn, be it Chuck, Howard, or just unfortunate timing. But do things the ā€œwrongā€ way - cheat, steal, create false evidence, write a completely disingenuous statement about how great your dead brother is - and suddenly, you’re a real lawyer again, and then a lawyer with a lot of clients, making obscene amounts of money. Jimmy’s disregard for the rules has never been because he’s a bad guy, but they simply have never made sense to him. The signs might tell him not to turn off the switch in the premiere of Season 2, but he does it anyway; and lo and behold, nothing happens. You can’t do that forever - that’s this universe’s real constant, that you cannot always win, even if you’re on a hot streak like no other - but you also can’t argue with results like the kind that Jimmy has gotten.

The tragedy of this show was always somewhat implicit, especially earlier on, seeing bright eyed Jimmy desperately trying to be a good person, become a real lawyer, and take care of his brother, knowing all the while that he would become a cartoon caricature, a shell of himself, at some point. We sat and watched it happen live for 7 years, until Fun and Games, where this show’s biggest transformation is handled with a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it timeskip cut. His choices spread to other people, through coincidence and mishap, they blow up in his face, but instead of dealing with the fallout, we immediately jump to seeing the effects. Idk the reaction of the sub to this, but I was definitely confused, but as this season has progressed, and with your post in mind, I realized two things:

We’ve seen this before, and really, this shit was over before it started.

The real tragedy of this world isn’t that a High School teacher with an ego problem came into the game and destroyed two enormous pillars in the drug world, destroying everything and everyone he touched in his wake, or that an unlucky lawyer couldn’t escape the labels of his past and ended up becoming exactly what everyone said he would. That’s sad, sure, but the real tragedy is staring us in the face the whole time, from the very beginning, and that’s that everything has already happened, and Gene has no choice but to sit back and not only rewatch it, but re-live it.

We’ve watched Jimmy make bad choices, we’ve watched Chuck bail him out, we’ve watched Jimmy try to make good choices because of this, and we’ve seen Chuck bar him from making any progress past that - sending Jimmy right back into the mindset to make bad choices - ones that, again, sometimes through happenstance and the wrong things connecting at the worst times, lead to Chuck’s death, Howard’s death, Kim’s departure, all the way through to Walt’s arrival, and we see how that played out. Now we’re here, after the prequel, after the main event, the party, if you will - but after all of it, after everyone’s gone, Saul’s still here.

Walt got to come back and sort of atone in Felina, clean up his messes and set right the chaos he had wrought on the world, in a sense. Jesse, with some complications, got to escape to something better, and his character had been so deeply broken before this point that he seems to have a new lease on life going forward. But in BB’s endgame, the only one without any real development is Saul, who has another mistake blow up in his face, and moves on to start over in yet another life. At this point, and especially with this most recent episode, all of BCS has basically been building up to tell us that, while we thought Saul was in a bind at the end of BB, he’s been here before, and it’s all ultimately a situation of his own doing - because he refuses to learn. As we now know, Saul is well-off before he meets Walter - he didn’t need him or his money. Just like Jimmy didn’t need to continue to pull those pranks on Howard, just like Gene doesn’t need to scam this guy with cancer. Just like Walter could’ve ended it all and gotten away decently had he stopped in 4 Days Out, or Season 3.

You’re right - with some minor rewrites, this season could’ve ended at the normal 10, with Gene reminiscing on who he was, but having grown and changed - but not only would that have been unrealistic for this character, who maybe hasn’t truly grown as a person since 2004 - that’s not what this show is about. This is a show, and ultimately a universe, about cycles, about people following cycles, not playing by the rules, and ultimately getting rewarded until they don’t. Jesse breaks out of his. Walter ultimately loses everything to the cycles he plays into, but lives through it long enough to enact the wisdom gained through that to somewhat rectify what he destroyed. But now, finally, in the most literal sense, we are sifting through the wreckage with Gene. Through the most development in this entire world, we’ve seen arguably the most initially decent character try to change, but ultimately make several of the same mistakes that land him in terrible situations (sometimes partially due to external happenstance). and in these last two episodes, with him primed to do it again, the show seems to be asking: Can he change? Will he change? Has he learned anything?

It speaks to why Walt and Jesse were revealed and treated with an almost lackadaisical air - announced in a random, out of nowhere twitter post, sprinkled in this episode (and I’m assuming these last two) like cameos, almost as if to say ā€œyeah, we know, they’re here, and we’re glad, but you’ve seen them before. That’s not what this is really about. They’re here to illustrate a pointā€. Ending Saul with a slightly rewritten last season that ends at a clean 60 episodes with Nippy, is fine, perhaps even great. An extremely interesting look back into a character, more of a cautionary tale than a true arc. however, what we have here… is different. This makes the show structurally different. What I feel like is happening now, in this postgame of sorts, is that instead of simply a glimpse of who this character used to be, all along we were getting the puzzle pieces of who this character is, and these final 3 episodes are fitting them together to see what he can truly become. It’s been a brilliant ride and I’m glad you were able to articulate what I’ve liked about these last couple episodes and what’s felt off

extremely well-written and thoughtful. i love this sub these days. this show has turned into quite a heady endeavor and i appreciate people like you and OP who can articulate these points so clearly.

Walt Whitman ova here

Very very insightful. Brings 611 into a different light for me

Me too, kind of crazy how this kind of view on it can make it so much better.

These last few episodes really remind me of Twin Peaks season 3, although that season leaned much more into the commentary of wanting to go back to a place that just doesn't exist anymore.

We did have a Wizard of Oz reference last night (not no way, not no how) and Oz was a huge inspiration for Lynch on Twin Peaks. The poster also hints at the black and white transitioning to colour at some point.

Taken with the Time Machine book referenced in the 6x01 cold open, I think it firmly hints at Gene wanting to return to the past/his fantasy of it.

This. I’ve seen no one else bring the time machine reference up. Gene is like a man out of time, nothing around him is familiar but he still longs to return back to it

Everyone seems to misinterpreting him hanging the suit back up on the rack. When you are in a nice suit store and intend to purchase the suit/pants/tie you put them back up on the rack the way he did - not on the clothes rod but hooked onto another suit's hanger. The way he hangs up the suit is 100% intentional and meant to indicate he plans to be Saul again someday.

I’m jealous of how great this analysis is, but extremely grateful to have read it

I agree. I read it and my first thought was "wow." Shortly after I started to get a bit uncomfortable with the surface-level analysis I've been attempting.

Impressive.

Do you work for the show? This was a great take šŸ’„

Big brain analysis

already commented on your original comment but just pitching in again because it (and the whole episode) really stuck with me, ive not been able to get it out of my head. i feel like we've seen more of jimmys true nature in this episode alone than maybe anything else on the show so far. whats most evident to me so far is i think to truly see how solid this reading is relies on how the final two episodes pan out. as is, breaking bad entirely recontextualized nippy for anyone who read it as "gene does one last slippin' jimmy scam out of necessity and hangs it up for good". if anything, the situation with jeff opened the door for him to indulge again and indeed the title of "breaking bad" doesnt refer to jeff and his friend at all, or even really walt and jesse, its gene fully giving in to his indulgences and as you point out, extending things well past their sell-by date. there is no conflict save for what he can dreg up and force himself into.

saul might be a wanted man but he has a secure new identity and handily dealt with the one dude who got in the way of that, keeping in mind he didnt even have to do that thanks to the vaccum phonecall. sure, he can never be famous like he was as ABQ's goto criminal lawyer, but he's got all the space to rebuild a quiet, peaceful and anonymous life. something i think that's interesting to note is whilst he has a right to be paranoid, its as if jimmy can't even begin to form normal friendships outside of the lense of the con anymore. we've seen six seasons of his natural charisma, his ability to shoot the shit with anyone - but its always been with a catch, the game being played behind the scenes.

this extends to almost everyone involved in the show that jimmy crosses paths with, whether it be straight-laced criminal business with mike, straight up scamming people no holds barred with marco, centering howard and chuck as the victims of his schemes, or drawing kim into that lifestyle and even using her as a pawn in his neverending plans, which some may recall was going to be the major reason for their seperation pre-marriage. its difficult to think of any genuine connection jimmy has with anyone outside of this context, with even his most pure-hearted and brotherly relationship with marco existing within the context of two dudes regularly bonding over their ability to fleece others out of their money.

so nippy certainly could have been a finale for a lot of characters, but not saul. hanging it up just isnt an option for a guy who once had a golden toilet. he cant make new friends, relationships, or even have any real goals or a greater purpose to life as gene because to him, its just a front. think of jesse driving off in el camino, we never get a proper moment of his actual next life. but its so clear to the viewer he wants and needs that. by the end he is liberated and free to forge out his own path, escaping under the shadow of walt and all the horror that came with him.

but what this episode solidified for me is that gene doesnt really look back on this years in horror as no doubt jesse does. i think he shares far more in common with walt in regards to looking back on the empire as something to behold in all its glory. when both vaccum out of the hot seat, they both share that sense of being unable to truly move on. but walt had unfinished business that he was able to deal with in one last blaze of glory. he had a reason to come back to ABQ and make things right, at least to the best of his ability. there simply isnt any of that for gene. he said it best himself with his own original exit from the stage - "its over". its just fascinating to see that in effect, he was lying to himself. it is over, but it cant be for him, because the performance as the mastermind con artist and the pursuit of the scam is truly all he lives for, much in the same way walt had so little in his life outside of empire.

its impressive in that sense how well the writers have in a way, aligned us with gene. if nippy had been the last episode, that really wouldve been the best thing for him, but much like gene, we would've felt disappointed. thats it? the great saul goodman pulls an elaborate heist of weeks of planning just to get some shaky dirt on some no-name cab driver and then slinks back into anonymity? that cant be it, he has to have some greater ending, even when everything we've seen says otherwise. if what happened to howard was the breaking point for kim, how on earth would the years of destructive plotting and abject criminality that saul would go on to commit be any kind of reassurance to her that he should be back in her life?

i think we will see kim again, but im really starting to think it wont be in the main timeline at all. that phonecall, and sauls reaction to it, feels like the last, bitter point between two people that have become intangible to each other. we can say that its for that reason that gene sinks back into criminality, but as far as im concerned, he's looking for any justification he can get to go off the deep end. if scamming is jimmys one true addiction, i feel like what we're seeing (and going to see) is the equivalent to an overdose.

That’s interesting. Maybe we’ll see a scene with Kim just after the breakup scene that gives further context

i absolutely think we will. to me the "obvious" route is seeing kim visit saul in some capacity deep into the bb-era, and things don't go well on account of this being a jimmy whos ready and willing to be complicit in child poisoning. Things sour further between the two but kim still cares enough just to keep tabs on his overall status, hence asking Francesca about him. but gene got too hopeful over that minor display of care and got further stung trying to actually reach out to her. At least, thats my theory for how it all shake out in the bigger picture. What exactly is said in the end? We don't know for sure of course, but I don't think itll be anything good at all.

Its over when he says it’s over

This is similar to how I interpreted Twin Peaks: The Return. >!Everyone wanted to see Agent Dale Cooper come back and dive into the mysteries of Laura Palmer, but it turns out most of the residents of Twin Peaks have moved on. The only character who hasn’t evolved is Cooper himself, who’s been trapped in an actual purgatory since the last season. Given that he’s mentally stuck in 1991, with no other goals or motivations, he tries to literally go back in time and ā€œfixā€ the death of Laura Palmer, but it blows up in his face.!<

I actually made this reference while watching it last night too - that stuff to "solve" or more stories keep piling up right to the end, but the actual emotional ending is no different than the original. A lesson in cycles, in people, and in how we consume media all at once!

I love this so much. Twin peaks is my favorite show ever and this episode of bcs made me feel EXACLTY like I did when I first watched the Return.. just incredibile

Love this comparison! The Return has stuck with me since it ended and I find myself thinking about it from time to time. I hope BCS leaves the same impression with me

I like where you're going with this and...

Both Gene and the audience want to squeeze out a little bit more. We
want to bring color back into this black and white world, stretch the
show out with a small dose of nostalgia for the good times. Running
cons, watching Breaking Bad.

This is why I don't see that scene at the end of Nippy as Jimmy hanging the Saul persoa completely. Because I don't want to see it that way. I don't want Saul Goodman to end. Like Gene, I like it. I'm addicted to it.

Great point.... and he hung up the saul garments in a casual way rather than returning them to their hangers

He likes it. He's good at it. He feels really...alive.

It's like poetry. It rhymes.

And the phone call's almost over. And he doesn't want it to be over. So he starts reaching, asking questions about arbitrary side characters and dropping a few names that that plenty of us don't even remember>>

This scene of Jimmy/Saul/Gene asking Francesca for news is reminiscent of the scene in Breaking Bad in which Walt, isolated for months in the cabin, tries to get Ed the vacuum guy to stay and talk for just an hour, offering to pay him. He's lonely and away from everything familiar: homesick. Just as Walt was. This is a poignant look at how much Walt had lost and now Jimmy has.

I really really love this post. I love meta analysis like this and this one feels just spot on. I really believe it was intended by the writers. This also makes me love Nippy even more than I already did. It's so fitting for Jimmy's character too, his 'show must go on' attitude and him always trying to be the director of his own life. Brilliant.

Bravo! Thanks for sharing this insight with the community. You've done an eloquent job of describing the intent of both the writers and characters in these final moments. Now viewing these episodes in the frame you've highlighted, I'm eerily reminded of the finale to Stephen King's Dark Tower series where he warns the reader to stop reading at this page - that they've gotten as close to closure and a happy ending as they'll find, and if they continue they're only going to find heartache and sorrow. It's clear that this same idea is being expressed by Gilligan and Gould.

I must say, in a sub that's usually filled with batshit insane theories, it is incredibly refreshing to see a post so well crafted and so eloquent as this one.

And as a long time Kojima and Suda51 fan, I absolutely DIG the metanarrative implications of this theory. It definitely also lines up with Gould saying the ending would be risky. Of course it is. This isn't another Breaking Bad grandiose climax with a great, poetic downfall named after a poem. This is much, much more subtle and nuanced.

Damn, that's awesome. I've always thought of Gene as Jimmy's identity in purgatory. I mean, that's not a super deep analysis or anything, it's pretty heavily hammered in. But now I see what you're saying. We stay with him beyond the story. We'll see him judged and sentenced because none of us can let go. The slowly eroding tapes of the intros have been brilliant. And now they won't even play anymore. This last one flashed a black and white crossroads before the show properly started; a shot from this very episode, a glimpse of the drained present. Isn't there some famous quote about a happy ending having everything to do with when the story cuts off? We go one layer deeper to see the desolation of a soul that has lost everything because it lost itself.

Well said. Very insightful. Beautiful. Bravo u/Bellikon

Neon Gene-sis Evangelion

Interesting

I’ve always felt this was an aspect of the last few episodes of Breaking Bad. Episode 13 of season 5, which is the finale of most of the other seasons, ALMOST ends with Walt’s arrest and Hank’s victory. This could almost have been the finale. But Walt artificially extending the show by calling the Nazis results in the tragic last 3 episodes

We know that is you Vince.. You can't hide under that name u/Bellikron

This is one of the greatest meta-analyses I've seen to anything ever. Vravo Bince

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absolutely. the last few episodes are subverting every expectation, and now with this analysis fresh in my mind, it seems that their intent is to subvert the show itself, along with the viewers' preconceptions of what the show is even about, or what television can do as a medium.

prior to the final half of this season, everything was mostly structured timeline wise - cold season opener with gene, jimmy doing his thing, and maybe a BB-timeline flashback. now the timeline is all over the place. it creates a very disorienting atmosphere.

Been looking forward to this post since your comment last night. Thanks for coming through, this was a great read.

I'd like to add to it that it always kind of felt like the implications of the Gene storyline was that Slippin' Jimmy had eventually slipped too hard. We knew the why and how, but it seemed inconsequential because it could all be simply put as "it's his nature".

I think the fact that he doubles down on his chaotic conman nature in the last few minutes of this episode implies that Jimmy would have always been this way; regardless as to the why and how. I think the inaudible call with Kim was some sort of catalyst (mirroring when she left and he embraced Saul for good), but Slippin' Jimmy would have continued to slip no matter what.

It's been his downfall once, it'll be his downfall once again as he tugs at straws trying to step out of the shadow of who he once was and that pairs nicely with your commentary that the show has ended and Jimmy just doesn't realize it yet.

Really really well done post!

Best analysis I've seen yet!

Any interest in taking my literacy analysis course next semester?

Or maybe teaching it?

Love this. I wanted to upvote every paragraph.

Mad Men did this too in its final season. Mad Men spoilers: >!McCann was buying out SCDP and the team rallied to do one last pitch to save the company, but none of them realized the show was over. They had no shot, SCDP was already gone.!<

BCS ends with Gene >!sitting by a beach in ~~California~~ Titusville, Florida dreaming up the greatest ~~commercial~~ con of all time.!<

woah

Wow this gives me a completely new perspective. Incredibly well written

This is outstanding! Thanks for sharing!

Plus every episode of season 6 leading up to episode ten followed the title structure of ā€œ _ and _ā€ episode 10 concluded the jimmy portion of the show. It was also the last time we got the regular title sequence.

I do feel like they've really tried to play with the form of a normal tv narrative and traditional character arc with the last few episodes, with this weird malaise Gene is in and him heading back into the slippin Jimmy persona (and the question about it being in his nature etc), but this time it's morally black with the cancer patient etc... and although we can see this pretty easily, it's really difficult to ascertain what exactly the 'set up' is as far as the show's final crescendo....that's assuming that's even what they go for in the finale.

It's strange because we don't really know as an audience what purpose this sinking back into crime is really serving in terms of the grand narrative, it really just seems like him relapsing/recessing into his deceptive, con-artist ways play-by-play, but the viewer is consciously aware of this ticking clock down to the final episode....so surely it's in service of something grander?

Love this theory, this is the kind of shit I love in media.

I will say if this really is the path the show is gonna go down then it really reminds of, and this is the most random thing to compare it to, Danganronpa 3. Not sure if anyone else who watches BCS has played that.

Better Call Monokuma

I feel like James Carville in Old School at the debate, where Will Ferrell blacks out and has the perfect answer...

"Oh... It... We... have no response. That was perfect."

Everything you said is so right! This is the 11th episode, and there shouldn't be an 11th episode. It's Jimmy pushing it too far, he could have left well enough alone.

I've always felt that they did something similarly meta at the end of Breaking Bad -- that Ozymandias was the real ending, the brutal failure of Walt's life, and that all the glorious revenge, machine-gunning Nazis and all that, was sort of a meta experiment, like Walt's dying fantasy, or maybe the fantasy wish fulfillment of, or for, we the viewers.

OP needs to be a professional film and TV critic. This post is article-worthy.

Brilliant take

I once read a friend's theory about the Sopranos ending which was similar to this theory. Sounds better for this show than the Sopranos though.

this analysis really redeems the direction of 6x10.

the episode was SUPPOSED to feel boring, because the story is over and Gene is just forcing the intro tape to keep playing... wow that's so interesting actually.

Couldn’t help but notice parallels between Gene and Walt in this episode. With Gene insisting on going through with the scam on that guy with cancer, it felt a lot like Walt insisting on getting the last bit of methlamine from the train even as it was starting to move, or cranking the magnet van up when Jesse and Mike were telling him they need to go, or Walt telling Saul that we’re done when I say we’re done. Gene truly has nothing left to lose, just like Walt after discovering he has cancer. Part of me was actually expecting a twist to reveal Gene has cancer, but I realized that would be honestly unnecessary. Gene is as broken and hopeless as someone who has cancer would be.

This is phenomenal analysis. Thank you for writing this!

Your post made me think of something that I've been discussing with my parents as we've watched the show, which is how strange this season has been from a plot standpoint. We came back from the episode 7 break with Lalo murdering Howard. I don't know about anyone else, but my expectations were that Lalo would be there until the end, or at least near the end. Instead, Lalo is killed off in the first episode when we return. I actually didn't believe that Lalo was dead for a split-second because I never thought the show would kill him off that quickly. I mean, think about this: Better Call Saul killed off the main villain of the show....with five episodes left.

I also thought that we were going to get a little more Kim and Jimmy before the split. Instead, the show puts us in Jimmy's shoes and has Kim abruptly abandon everything in one swoop: she dumps Jimmy, she dumps her law license, everything. While this was perhaps less surprising than Lalo dying as early as he did, it was still surprising. We have had two episodes now where Kim didn't even make an appearance, except presumably during the phone call, where we neither see nor hear her.

Gus and Mike also seem to be finished in the show. We did have a nice bit with Saul and Mike here in the flashback, but I don't know if we will see any Gus or Mike scenes again. Their arc is over. We know how it ends.

So on every front, the show seemed to be finished. But we, the viewer, like Gene, cannot accept this. There has to be more, right? None of us believed that Lalo would die that soon, that Kim and Jimmy would be finished that quickly, that all this would happen and with this many episodes left in the show. And now Gene, and us, are going to see the consequences of that inability to accept finality.

I am hoping this goes viral and you get recognized and maybe even rewarded with a few writing gigs in the future by someone famous in the industry.

Writing a pretty short essay doesn't mean you can write narrative stories.

Like some sort of meth addict?

Is anyone going to talk about the fact that Gene asks the guy with cancer "should you be drinking?" as if he had doubts about robbing him? Also he responds with "you only go around once," which reflects Gene's reckless attitude in wanting to rob him against all logic.

I suggested elsewhere that Kim might be married, forgetting that she is married to Jimmy! For some reason, that marriage never took in my consciousness. In order to marry again, she'd have to divorce Jimmy and since he's unaware of that -- we assume -- the idea that she's married down in Florida can't be true. So, his rage when calling her has to be from a conversation with her.....proving that she has not changed her mind.

Everyone has moved on with their lives except Jimmy:

Great theory, and probably true considering there's nothing else to tie up.

The very fact that we didn't hear the phone call with Kim is a metaphor for the viewers' frustration, which is then personified by Gene actually trashing the phone box. Kim's story is over even if we want closure, we're not getting it.

Dayum. You absolutely nailed how I felt, but making it so much clearer than the muddled mess I was going through. Thank you.

I would like to add too that we have also a "be careful for what you wish for" for both the audience and Gene. Since season 1, we wanted to see Saul Goodman, the sleazy lawyer we knew and love from Breaking Bad. Except when we get to Breaking Bad timeline, we grew attach to the original characters of BCS and we just know Saul Goodman is the product of a series of unresolved traumas. And then we just want to go back to the good old days where Jimmy was just playing innocent cons on scumbags and everyone was alive.

For Jimmy, having a successful career is everything he wanted, but at what cost? He was making a lot of money, had many clients, but was being threatened by Walt, lost the love of his life and ended up with no one in his life, like he said in Nippy: mo wife, no kids, no friends, no relatives. Only a sack of diamonds and money that he can't spend.

This is also a cool read in relation to Jimmy/Saul/gene as a director - his creating and directing commercials has been present since early s1. even the heist in nippy had his choreographing directions and watching it play out on monitors, rather than in person. He's always shown a knack for understanding aesthetics and personas - remember in s1 the way he modeled his elder lawyer outfit off the TV show lawyer? Saul Goodman was maybe the ultimate end of this, purposefully all style and no substance, because Jimmy confronting his substance and the hurts he's caused is too painful.

So Better Call Saul is Twin Peaks now?

Is David Lynch secretly writing and directing these last episodes? This is awesome

Excellent analysis!

I love your analysis, great job ! šŸ’Ŗ

The way Gene looks at the batter mixing machine (is that how it's called?) reminded me of Walter White when he worked at the car wash

Well said and I agree with this assessment!

Now that I'm scrolling through the intros because of this post, I highly recommend re-watching the first Gene part at the beginning of the first episode of the very first season of BTC. They had this all planned right from the start. I'm struck by how immaculately they thought this out - BTC & BB will forever be the best written shows I have experienced in my life I think. Period.

They’ve been pretty open about how they didn’t plan out anything

I like this. Gene's line about the "maestro buying the farm" fits into it too, ie there's some exasperation over BrBa's end not lessening the demand for content involving Walt and Jesse.

Brilliant post!! Also I think this may help those who didn't enjoy Nippy to appreciate it more

You must write the best articles someone should hire u, or start ur own

Sorta felt like this when watching Twin Oeaks The Return finale: we try to go back home but the mystery is already over

Exactly how I'm feeling. We're just getting extra bits. Show could've ended s06e10 for sure.

I love how after the credits it switches to Record (REC).

That was beautiful.

"Just when you think you've seen everything"... lol, Carol Burnett is right.

I mean, the internet just has so many great cat videos I just don't want them to end.

I don't know how much of what you wrote aligns with what the show intended but it was masterfully written. Thanks for sharing. At some point, once a piece of art is released into the wild, it takes on a life of its own regardless of what the artist intended.

šŸŽ¶ If I should leave you

try to remember the good times...

and if you look back

try to forget all the bad times... šŸŽ¶

RemindMe! Two weeks

this thread literally made my head spin. the writers are making a statement about the nature of the medium that they're working in using the medium itself.

i can't really expound beyond how amazed i am at the artistry being identified in this post. really mind-blowing stuff.

Love this analysis!

I will say though that I don't think he spoke directly to Kim in that phone call (although it's possible). I feel like he wouldn't have acted that angrily and aggressively if he had. I think it would've been a more somber call.

I think it fits with Sauls personality to flip. He’s clearly in a low place

Episode 10 was the good ending, that last shot from episode 10 was just asking for the credits to be rolled on the series finale. We got an hour of Classic jimmy scams and just him winning in general. In any other show you would ever watch, episode 10 is the final act. It was a happy ending!!!

This is the post game content now. I like the idea that you could stop at episode 10 and pretend that gene lives happily after. Episode 13 will be the genocide run

I agree with this and someone posted a few years ago that Gene's last name (Takavic) is a massive clue about his inability to overcome his own nature. The word "Takav" in Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian is used to describe something as being the way it is. Someone could say "takav je" which means "he is that way".

Feel like watching the movie Memento.

"Breaking Bad" is not just a homage to the previous show (and it's episode "better call saul") it's also the moment where Gene breaks bad (once again)..

This is genuinely one of the best analysis I've ever read

Absolutely great job in writing this!

Interesting that some people are calling this a theory. This isn’t a theory, it’s an analysis.

Just noticed something. In the top left as the intro ends it says ā€˜rec’ as in record. The viewer of the tape is not watching anymore they’re recording.

This is brilliant and a game changer

YOU WORK ON THE SHOW

Holy hell, this just blew my mind.

Edit: I’m getting chills from this take, because Jimmy/Gene is trapped in his own head. Imagine ā€œGeneā€ just rewatching and rewatching and there’s nothing left to watch…ugh, wow. This post was amazing, OP. Amazing and terrifying and incredibly sad.

He never even asked about Cliff Main’s son.

I bet Gene will go back to Albuquerque with a M60 hidden in the trunk of his car and a system that makes the gun shoots automatically when a button is pressed, and he will use this system to brutally murder the Jack’s team

Op are you trying to tell us fucking nippy is a perfect finale for the series? Really?

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this is such a cynical thing to say. all i can say is - lighten up. this post deserves to exist on its own outside of another thread, look at how much interesting discussion it's generated. can you say the same thing about what you're posting here? be nice.

I think you're all a bunch of entitled whiners who get butthurt when anyone sees through you, but rage and bitch and moan if someone has a take you think is 'wrong,' like it not being Kim on the phone or not fucking 2005 last ep.

It isn't your place to police the sub, and god knows you wouldn't tell anyone from around here to lighten up for not letting my takes exist. Which they don't, so take your own advice.

what is your "take"? that the OP doesn't deserve to post a thought-provoking analysis in two different places - on a subreddit dedicated to talking about the subject matter of their analysis? you're probably in the wrong place if that bothers you.

i would encourage anybody to lighten up if they immediately resort to cheap jabs that are contradictory to discussion.

i'm not here to police anyone, but i think it's important to not take things so seriously, lmao. i'm not even gonna touch the name-calling. i've really enjoyed all of the discussions pertaining to the last few episodes of this series, but yeah i think it's fair to encourage people to keep things constructive.

The mental hospital really needs to increase your dose of Thorazine..

And yet you guys continue, days after I write this, to carry on and give me the airtime. I am apparently so fascinating to the impotent bullies of this sub!

Days? it says you wrote that 10 hours ago lmao. I know your padded room doesn't have windows so it must be hard to keep track of time.

Does your quest to have the last word have any end to it? Your insults are boring and the insane person is honestly the one who keeps responding crazy me. You're just a bully who likes to poke, that's it.

This is too expansive and exhausting to read. Please be succinct

You'd look pretty stupid if they announced a 7th season any time now.

They're not gonna announce a 7th season

Skipping right ahead to an 8th season would be avant-garde even for AMC.

ya, sometimes you just gotta let sleeping dogs lie, real life doesn't always have closure

Amazing write up.

"We're done when I say we're done" seems like jimmy gene saul took a little too much inspiration from a bad influence

Wow

I’m getting a feeling we’re gonna get an ending more in the vein of the Sopranos as opposed to Breaking Bad. It’s crazy there’s such little show left and it can end in anyway.

The one thing that works against this theory is that the show itself isn't whole yet. The arc hasn't been completed, because from the perspective of just this show, there is nothing to explain why Gene exists. And he has been the skeleton of the whole narrative.

Now, we all know it's because of Heisenberg. But someone watching just this show who doesn't know BB needs that last piece put in place still.

Excellent insight, I never read posts this long but the theory in the title sounded so interesting to me

Capital analysis my good man, simply capital.

There's the running theme, and much discussion, regarding how much of him is Jimmy McGill, how much Slippin Jimmy/Saul. Rather than Saul being his "true nature," I think our hero is Jimmy Mc deep down inside; he has a good heart, and is driven to depths because of psychological pain and desperation. That's why he broke bad so late in the series, compared to Walt who a craven bastard from the get-go

Great catch

Holy shit dude this make so much sense

Brilliantly articulated, this is great

Brilliantly articulated, this is great

Wow very insightful and beautifully written.
I thought I was the one that understood and see the plots...

dude. god bless you. your post is literal ART.šŸ™

This is a brilliantly thought out and equally well-written analysis. I loved the read.

Love this take. Really think there’s a lot of validity to it. Thank for sharing. šŸ™

This is fucking genius. Oh my god.

Parallel to Walt’s cozy life out of the game before Hank took that shit.

genius. i absolutely love this.

"It's like poetry, they rhyme"

This is the best theory I've ever read. If this is true the entire team behind Better Call Saul deserves every award there is. This show will go down as the best of all time.

Beyond Lynch.

I remember there was a somewhat Lynchian episode, it was brilliant. It was also directed by Rhea Seehorn. Now, two episodes from the end, I see Lynch pass again, but at the same time he was already far away; this energy cannot be stopped by anyone.

My wishes from yesterday are so small today. A challenge has been raised against the very way of composing stories.

At this point, anything is possible.

Love this. I had such a sinking feeling last night, realizing it's really 'over.' My prediction is that Gene lives and escapes the law in the current timeline, dumping everything on Jeff somehow. But it is made clear to us that he is going to keep straying back into shenanigans because he can't be any other way, there is nothing better left for him, and it will catch up to him eventually. Then again let's not forget that Jeff's mom suspects something now...

Woah thats true and it makes me sad.

Honestly the cons felt like beating a dead horse, probably intentionaly, it's black and white.. it's not nearly as sweet as with Kim and vs. his old colleagues. Doing cons with couple of nobodies. Episodes almost felt boring.

What a sore loser he's become. He's just got these high skills in crime and nothing else, nobody to share it with.

This is why professional criminals can't ever live a normal satisfactory life.

Thank you for sharing this. My stupid ass would have never realized this. I hope Vince reads this and gives you a prize.

Read this last night and it made me smile. Thanks for making it a post and expanding it. Great reading. And as someone who went to school to talk about film and tv, this was an excellent review.

all the guys who hated nippy r feelin dumb right now as they should feel

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my hope is that she sees the "american greed" episode about jimmy!

Beautiful analysis. These episodes feel strange and you’ve hit the nail on the head.

He has to wind up arrested. He doesn’t move on like everyone else. He’s stuck.

Jesus man, this theory hits me to the core. I have nothing in my life besides this show. No family and no friends. This show is all I look forward to now. I guess I'm just like Gene, desperate for more BB, wanting to return to the simpler times of when I first watched it. Damn.

Very good analysis. It kinda reminds me of the ending of twin peaks the return. The second to last episode makes a really moving and satisfying ending. But it's not the ending, Cooper keeps pushing, and ruins everything.

Arguably it wouldn't be such a big deal if Buddy hadn't taken off the tape and Gene could just sneak in etc.

But it's a bit like D-Day I guess.

Buddy: There'll be other marks

Saul: live to fight another day

Kim: what other day? ... It happens today

This series will spawn dissertations.

A magnificent post. When I open the Kim Wexler School for the study of Better Call Saul, I would encourage you to apply to be one of the PhD candidates

Posts like this are the reason I love Reddit. Amazing analysis.

The writers are taking us down in a smooth landing. We will want to the show to be over but will savor every minute.

I wish I was smart enough to make these kinds of conclusions myself.

BRAVO, u/Bellikron

Are you a literature teacher or something?

beautifully written, man

There’s the post from the comments🄳

yeah these final episodes are giving me Twin Peaks vibes

I’d think of it like this

Jimmy is a cockroach, born survivor. What a born survivor does is take traits and elements of evolution and uses them to adapt to their new environment. Jimmy turned to a semi-Goodman in season 5-6 to deal with all the trauma, and turned towards it even MORE in Breaking Bads era. After the horrifying aftermath, obviously, this persona cannot sustain itself. So Gene is stuck in evolutionary limbo, until he has the one element, the ONE thing that’ll cause the chain of reaction for him to find previous traits and utilize them to build a new character that adapts to his own environment. We see the catalysts put in place with the phone call, and we understand hints of the character he’s building; he’s taking elements of Heisenberg (whereas in BCS he took elements of what Chuck kept saying about him). We’re basically seeing a full evolutionary adaptation of Genes environment in the episode as we speak, and we know its going to end horribly wrong. Because, how do you get out of being a born survivor? Its nearly impossible. And thats the tragedy, in a way, Gene will always draw back and adapt to environments, even prison.

The parts he can’t change is what he does; he scams, lies, salesman-type manipulate, and lawyers everything. What he CAN change is how he goes about it.

Jimmy: is genuinely all the things he can’t change about himself. Does not work with his environment or maybe it does, just that theres no real trauma at the moment.

Semi-saul: all those things + the shiny glamour that attracts criminals and whatnot, embracing who he is. This is only seen externally.

Full Saul: He becomes this, completely. He is internally Saul as he was externally.

Limbo-gene: Maybe the same as Jimmy in a way, Gene is caught between personas. Which is depressing for him but a lot safer for everyone else. He’s nothing of what he used to be. Except his cowardice.

Gene Takavic: Took traits of Heisenberg (we know that through the ā€œthats crazyā€ speech about a man making millions in two years, Gene clearly respects the attitude that man brung about his business). And is now epitomizing them, which slowly turns him into the worst version of himself imaginable.

All of these need a catalyst. A big one depending on how big of a change the adaptation is. But overall, the main question here is,

Will Gene stop himself from fully turning into another, horrible version of Heisenberg before he gets caught of hurts, or will the show follow the mans initial seemingly tragic arc?

These are questions that I believe will have answers progressively unraveled throughout the last two episodes. And is why I cannot be any more excited for what the writers have in store.

This was brilliant. A great take.

It's been said but can't be overstated, this was a great post and helluva read.

This is the kind of stuff I love reddit for. Makes my smooth brain feel alot smarter when this stuff is pointed out to me so I can see the bigger picture too. Right or wrong, I love this idea and thank you for sharing with the rest of us.

Cheers.

I was saying to my Mum that Nippy could have been a stand alone short film, it was really entertaining and endearing to watch, in the context of the show it’s so alien.

It takes bollocks to completely twist the tone like that and it is breaking new ground in film making and very unique. I really like it, it leaves me with a unique emotion it is so strange. Reminds me of when you see something so abstract you start to call it art.

You described perfectly what the show is trying to do, it’s like the end of the night when you end up in a strangers kitchen and it’s light outside, the birds are chirping and everyone is getting tired and signals they want to leave but you try and stretch out the night, because you don’t want it to end, you try and get some more alcohol or ring those girls from before, you think about trying the dealer one more time but it isn’t last night anymore and things have changed and moved on from last night.

Haha I love it.

The season has reached its conclusion. But just like Slippin Jimmy, we keep wanting a little bit more and cant let go. And so we're getting it. But yep... at what cost. Maybe we could have left things at their conclusion and ended up a bit happier, like Jimmy should have.

This show has basically turned all of us viewers into Slipping Jimmy.

To be honest Fun and Games felt like the final episode .

Seriously impressive post. Thanks for opening my mind.

I love how you said this yesterday and I brought it up to my partner who said "13 episodes? That's unlucky." And I laughed and then my brain broke.

The opening vhs credits, that have slowly degraded over each season, until now the tape has worn out and it's only the VCR blue menu screen...is Gene watching tapes of when he was Jimmy.

I knew it would be a sad episode

I really enjoyed reading this! My favourite post in this sun!

Amazing analysis. Thank you for sharing this.

Schrodinger’s call

It’s a show about a con man.

The audience gets to decide how long they’re going to let him con them.

this post made me imagine an ending breaking the fourth-wall

what if in the last episode the intro will be like episode 11 intro, but instead of gene holding a glass, it’s gene looking at the camera talking to peter and vince ā€œguys, i don’t know what to doā€ and the intro turns out to be the story itself rofl

I hope you analyze media professionally. This is one of, if not, the greatest piece of analysis I've ever read. Great work

Just want to say that’s a great, well written analysis.

Yeah, I too felt like this was 13 episodes as a way of showing Gene cannot let go. Great stuff

You took the thoughts of my mind lol. I kept thinking about it when it became obvious that that was the goal of the "finished" VHS.

"It's showtime folks". No Gene. Show is over. But his life is not, in a way, and he is going back.

So basically WE are the addicts, just like Jimmy. We're after a higher dose of this universe, because we desperately don't want it to end, but now we are about to pay the price for our excess. And have a more vivid experience of what Jimmy is going through.

It's also a commentary on the binge model as well

this is wildly amazing. mind blowing. and doesn't contradict the story as far as i can see. i think you are spot on.

I think it's also telling that they released all 3 episode names at once instead of week by week basis like they normally have been doing.

Very cool analysis

This is some hotline miami meta commentary m

I didn't see episode 10 as a happy ending, he only chose to stay a nobody (pun intended) while getting no real closure or a good chance to make up for his mistakes. That said it still would have been a pretty good melancholy ending to the series.

I love the thought of Nippy as an anti-finale. It's fascinating to think of, especially in the context of the way that episode didn't click with everyone.

In many senses, Nippy was a perfect final episode. A greatest hits of everything that made both the show and Jimmy himself special. It's punctuated by a contemplative moment of implied personal growth and optimism.

But... can you imagine if it was actually the last one? People would have lost their minds. I think a small contingent of us would have loved it, but the vast majority of people would have been pissed.

The standard 10 episodes isn't enough? Okay sure, there's more. Be careful what you wish for.

He hasn’t confronted his past traumas. Such as the demise of his brother, the break-up with Kim, even the death of Howard. He just suppressed all of this under Goodman’s over stylish suits. When he hangs the shirt is like removing the duct tape one episode later, means the breaking bad is just yet to come.

I love this meta analysis. Reminds me a lot of how David Lynch handled the 2017 Twin Peaks series. A lot of that show also seemed to be preoccupied with wanting to relive the past but ultimately realizing it's an exercise in futility.

We won't look at the TV series Breaking Bad the same. After BCS episode of the same name sake, it was Saul!!!! Holy Fucking shit!!! The great Heisenberg, wasn't this transformation of a middle of the road middle aged man with cancer, it was orchestrated by Jimmy. Not our precious Jimmy. He couldn't possibly be responsible for the murderous Heisenberg. But... Now when we go back to watch Breaking Bad (TV series, thanks Vince for making me specify. Bravo) we will know it wasn't All Walt. There was someone pulling the strings helping Walt realize his True Potential.

I think people tend to forget that this show is not supposed to leave question marks to those who haven't seen breaking bad. The transition from Saul to Gene hasn't really been explained yet. Having watched BB I would be kind of satisfied with the show ending in the 10th episode, but if I hadn't I would be very confused

Nice

I just binged the show in two weeks and got caught up yesterday and I’m SO EXCITED I finally get to read about it!šŸ¤— I didn’t even know we were actually gonna see Walt and Jesse! My jaw was on the floor and I felt like a pup who’s owners just got home:) I really liked reading your assessment. Hope I can put down better call saul Reddit and get some work done today lol

It's a great analysis but it seems the most obvious route for the writers to take. He told Jeffie to say 'We're done' and put back the Saul outfit at the end of Nippy only to immediately go back to working with Jeffie. It's attention he craves as much as the thrill of 'the game', he needs to be loved. The Jeffie stuff is part of a larger plan he has in mind, if Kim won't love him, he'll need to find it somewhere else in a different form - fame.

I think he'll capitalise on his notoriety ultimately and become a national celebrity.

Woah. I like it

Question about this episode: Does anyone know how Francesca knows to be at the phone on that day at that time? I think I missed that explanation.

This is interesting but predicated entirely too much on acting like the Kim storyline is some minor thread that didn’t need to be pulled on when his relationship with Kim was the most interesting part of the show, the biggest question mark of the BrBa timeline, and had an abrupt and unresolved ending.

Jimmy was never at peace. Gene was tormented by his past. Losing Kim obviously weighed heavy on him. It’s not trying to squeeze out a little more, its him trying to rekindle the only meaningful relationship hes ever had. And just basic storytelling to actually provide a resolution to that arc.

Remarkable.

Great post

Shit, that description of ā€œfans calling Vince about fan theoriesā€ to describe the phone call between Gene and Francesca is so goddamn perfect

Man go make a YouTube channel or something, this is insanely well done

yo that actually makes so much sense. Ep 10 could have been the finale because the only loose thread left was the phone call, and as we saw it only made things worse. Gene never needed to make that call. I LOVE THIS THEORY

Are you trying to say the show will have a shit ending.

Wow this theory fix my criticism of the past two episode, thx for the amazing take on this.

This last episode confirms to me that Jimmy could have chosen to learn his episode from what happened with lalo. Even in the way that it’s brought up by the guys. Saul could have saved himself if he didn’t pursue Walt. Is The redemption I’ve been looking this whole season really never coming? 😢

This is really far reach. Fans are in their feels because the show is over but let’s face it. We never knew what happened to Kim in Nippy so that ties that ends.

It’s just showing who the character truly is and how he copes with not being able to play the character he created for himself as a coping mechanism for his lost of Kim.