The poor parrots bouta get doxxed 💀
The poor parrots bouta get doxxed 💀
Poor parrot’s about to become KFC
Kentucky fried cockatoo?
You guessed it!! Somebody give this man some KFC!
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Aye I have one of those. They're called african greys and they are literal toddlers.
I kind of wanted to have one a long time ago. Are they any fuss to deal with? I hear they're wicked smart though.
They require a lot of time and effort. Expect roughly 4 hours a day to be centered on the bird, minimum. Without proper attention and care they can develop a slew of disorders.
The cost is also huge. at least 2 grand for the bird, from a good breeder. The cage and diet and required toys add up too.
They are great birds and companions, but really really do not get one without a lot of research and commitment. Most Greys get rehomed several times in their lives because people don't do their research first.
How the hell does anyone have over 4 hours a day to dedicate to a bird?
Well that time can get split up. Preparing food, cage cleaning, and training/playing time. It's like having a toddler... for the next 50 or so years.
I will say that bird people are a special breed. But some of that time can just be chilling with your bird... and different types have different needs. It's why hefty research is a must before committing to these wonderful animals.
If you are interested, the Parrot Wizard on YouTube has a lot of good info.
They’re basically like human babies in terms of maintenance, except for 60+ years they’re like a 4 year old
Oh yeah forgot to mention they'll outlive you so include them in your will lol
Yeah I have a hard enough time getting my cat all the attention she wants. Could not imagine a parrot.
2k for the bird???? They like 5-6 grand minimum where I’m from!
It can vary pretty widely. And last time I looked was 10 years ago or so
If they're socialized right, they can be pretty good pets. They talk, understand certain words, can do tricks, and apparently are the smartest animal besides humans. Ideally you'll want to buy an egg before it hatches just so you can give the most imprint on it but be warned they can cost up to 2k and you'll have to order its food too which is also pretty expensive. If you can afford it definitely go for it tho
Ah so they also roll around in the dirt and eat there own shit and somehow get places they shouldn't be able to. Now that I think about it they also sound like dogs. The toddlers that is
The only thing to do is platform that Bird on Rumble and Truth Social.
It just shows how little imagination Trump actually has that he didn’t call his social media platform “Trumpet”.
TBH someone in his inner circle is giving the big guy terrible advice. No way he wouldn't have named it after himself if he'd been left to his own devices.
As though TRUTH SOCIAL isn't self-centered cringe?
Hey it can always be more cringe, and hilarious
Especially with Trump
Of course it’s not fascism; anti fascist is literally in the name.
Pravda Social
The year is 2032, president trump has just been elected by a suspicious overwhelming majority to his fourth term. He probably died a year ago and is being literally controlled as an animatronic by the CIA. The religious right has decided he is the second coming of God and thus has replaced every cross in the land with a big T. The stock market has never been higher. You still cannot get an ingrown toenail removed for less than 400 dollars.
Dont forget Parler!
Even more throwback: Voat
It’s pronounced “troth cential”
this is actually hilarious
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PolChamp wanna cracker?
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who's a based bird, you are, you are!
in this scenario, who is fucking whom?
The bird is fucking himself while libright streams in on a sick platform for money
Always the centrist to put into perspective
I read that as "pogchamp wanna cracker"
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Seriously, I haven’t laughed that hard at something on Reddit in a while. The editing with the parrot in blue really just put me over the edge.
I fuckin lold
Who gives a shit what the bird says, it doesn't know any better. As far as the bird is concerned it could be calling you fuckstick (affectionate).
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I still don't understand how we could grasp that concept at fucking 5 years old and now adults can't even understand it. What the hell happened?
We have regressed from an inteligence standpoint. Kids are not always the brightest but they are generally more confident about what they know. Now we have all these losers who made decisions based off of what they KNEW to be FACTS/The Truth blah blah blah are now questioning them and they are scared.
To be fair though, how many tropes come from people insulting someone to get them to do something they want? That saying is clearly flawed, or supposed to be a mantra to help bolster yourself while being berated.
Words do hurt, for example....
Taxes
Bills
We ran out of charcoal
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Yes? It is my problem. So I will fix it. In the meme post above, they can't just sell or kill the bird, it's a pet. When I can't think of a solution I reach out for help. If you don't want to help then fine, just fuck off and don't comment.
A congregation of people talking and trading thoughts is one of the fastest ways to generate ideas, and arguably one of the most complex things the universe has to offer.
How the hell else can you explain how this subreddit came to exist? People didn't like the word some other people said so they make jokes to make themselves feel better.
imo it's the only truly effective way to deal with bullies.
???
The way to deal with bullies is saying that the bullies are a problem of whoever gets bullied?
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If all someone is doing is saying words to you, who TF else's problem would it be?
Right, but how does that solve anything?
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It's YP not MP unless I'm the one being bullied.
It does nothing for people who are bullied.
And people who aren't bullied don't really have any issue with bullying to solve.
"I love my strategy, it solves all of the problems that don't exist and none of the problems that do exist!"
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YP refers to the bully, as in it’s the bully’s problem. So don’t make it yours.
“Suck it up” is his anti bullying strategy
The way to deal with bullies is saying that the bullies are a problem of whoever gets bullied?
If all someone is doing is saying words to you, who TF else's problem would it be?
But go off, king
Use context clues, champ. That isn’t the only comment he made
Bullies should really limit their taunting to after class, your reading comprehension has clearly suffered
Use context clues, champ. That isn’t the only comment he made
That comment is the context.
I made an explicit question to figure out whose problem they think it is and they answered.
And the conversation went on from there.
Pretending to not care/actually not caring is not a good way to stop bullies. They will just try other things.
Bruh you really gonna be dropping the T word like that? Cmon man, theres kids around here
We ran out of charcoal
Good, you should use propane. Taste the meat, not the heat
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I think that last one is "we ran out of propane"
You take that back you son of a bitch
Propane's only good for science. Charcoal is for Meat Guddammit
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I don't quite know how the religion works fully but I think this means that this person is now a trans man.
Well, part of being a man is your mental health care is wholly encompassed by the phrases "man up" and "deal with it."
That's what the feminist tell us "men"
Imagine being so soft that you let a parrot live in your head rent free
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That’s a hate-fact. It is very damaging to our democracy.
The parrot shown in the video can live 70+ years, although on average usually less
Depending on when they got the parrot, it might genuinely have a longer lifespan without any disruptions
Most Macaws have to be considered in a will since a lot of them would outlive their owners
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Yeah, teaching the bird to say FU will surely help the owner's mental health
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This one Reddit post proves it’s a mental health issue.
Remember that Imgur album of screenshots of a series of Reddit posts that was being passed around about a trans person talking about how horrific the process was, how the gaping wound in their crotch is agonizingly painful and disgusting, and how they desperately wished they could just go back to the way they were? That’s the shit these liblefts are trying to hide from the public. It shows just how their ideology is doing real, irreversible harm to these poor people.
These liblefts are with this trans stuff what the Kennedys were with their daughter whom they lobotomized for being introverted and quiet.
These trans people are victims of liberal propaganda. The vast majority of these liblefts aren’t the ones who will get stuck with low to mid quality plastic surgery for the rest of their lives.
Just so the mods know. I don’t hate trans people. I work in health care. I want to help them. It’s heart breaking how they’re being used a political pawns by the left rather than being given actual medical and psychological care. Psychologists love to throw cognitive behavioral therapy at almost everything EXCEPT this particular issue.
CBT stands for some else, I'm pretty sure...
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"Nooo they're going to ban us because they hate the idea of polite political discussions!!!"
But then also this sub: this entire thread
Well, reality simply isn't nice and we tend to be honest about it
This coming from a furry? What part of reality has you fucking animals?
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This is an extremely rich strawman considering we're on a comment thread where people are literally praising trans people committing suicide.
Only your reality
Funniest comment I’ve read in a long time. Thank you.
Shit it's removed.
Probably has Trump as a roommate.
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They have literally followed your implied advice to "man up" to the greatest extent possible. Are men not permitted to have memories that hurt them or something? Wait till I tell you about PTSD and war vets, maybe we might also tell them how "soft" they are when a parrot mimics an artillery barrage.
Maybe try summoning a shred of fucking compassion?
Men can be sad and affected by ptsd etc etc but you know what’s worse and even more inconsiderate? forcing your problems on random people because you’re incapable of differentiating between offhand comments said without context and direct attacks on your character.
forcing your problems on random people
not sure I understand what this part is exactly.
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Man the fuck up.
Ye, that's exactly what OP's brother did.
A bird saying "words" could not have any LESS in common with an enemy combatant firing actual bullets with intent.
Ye but neither of those horrors are "real" in the moment. The issue is that they're triggers for psychological trauma. Perhaps you've just led a blessed life where there isn't a word or some sounds or a taste or smell that triggers memories of the darkest parts of your life so you can relate?
maybe we might also tell them how "soft" they are when a parrot mimics an artillery barrage.
As someone nearly killed by rocket blasts fucking lol
Maybe try summoning a shred of fucking compassion?
Fuck, shut up with this line already. It's not compassionate to play into people's delusions so they mutilate their bodies.
Fuck, shut up with this line already. It's not compassionate to play into people's delusions so they mutilate their bodies.
They ain't up in your business, let people represent how they want to represent. Crying about a teensy-tiny fraction of society when all they want to do is stuff that is personal is just like letting smth small live in your head "rent free".
Its just so fucking fragile. Compassion is both kinder and less mental gymnastics so idk why you're holding onto this anger when it ain't about you.
As someone nearly killed by rocket blasts fucking lol
yeah but they're not there now! What a softie, letting a parrot fool it into thinking they were re-living trauma from years ago. Silly sausage, that's in the past!
let people represent how they want to represent
Hey great, no problem with this.
Stop telling me I have to participate in their representation. Because if you aren't up in my business, then shut the fuck up about what I do and say and how I represent.
Compassion is both kinder and less mental gymnastics
Lying to people under the guise of compassion and the mental gymnastics you have to use to seriously say the words 'trans semen is female semen!' are not what you're referencing here? Fucking lol
yeah but they're not there now!
The point was that a parrot going 'BOOM BOOM' isn't going to make me 'relive my traumatic past', it's a fucking parrot. If a parrot making noises makes you suicidal you're too fragile for this world.
Stop telling me I have to participate in their representation.
I am legit just telling youse to accept the fact that people can be sad about smth in the past. Given our OP is like:
HAR HAR being reminded of past trauma is making u sad, how soft
I take issue with that not just for trans people but for everyone. Trauma sucks, grow a fucking heart.
Stop telling me I have to participate in their representation
Are you pissing your pants because you don't want to call Clive his own name?
Idk about you but I don't ask for a birth certificate when someone gives me their name, that they give me a name is enough. If you're upset that people give you shit when you're mean to other people I ain't got a solution for that I'm afraid.
'trans semen is female semen!'
wat?
I am legit just telling youse to accept the fact that people can be sad about smth in the past.
Nah, with your stupid lines about compassion blah blah, this is about you wanting other people to conform to the mental illness of another.
Now you're just jumping from incoherent point to incoherent point still trying to stay on message after you got embarrassed in the first replies.
Toodles darling.
Nah, with your stupid lines about compassion blah blah, this is about you wanting other people to conform to the mental illness of another.
Someone else's head state ain't my business. Why do you think its yours to decide how other people can present? What are you, the fucking fashion police?
Now you're just jumping from incoherent point to incoherent point
so says Mr "trans semen". Like I have no fucking clue what that shit even begins to mean... real coherent bud.
Someone else’s head state ain’t my business. Why do you think its yours to decide how other people can present? What are you, the fucking fashion police?
It became our business when they started telling us how to behave and started indoctrinating children
they started telling us how to behave
what do you mean by behave? Don't people just want to be called the name they give others?
What to say, be it name, pronouns, dictionary definitions, etc. then they started indoctrinating and transitioning kids against their parents wills, arresting parents at school board meetings, sticking dudes with dicks on hormones into girls sports, forcing girls to share locker rooms with dudes with dicks, etc.
Who do you think you’re fooling with this “oh it’s just a name” bullshit? The only person you’re fooling is yourself
Who do you think you’re fooling with this “oh it’s just a name” bullshit?
Yea but that's the only impact this has on your life isn't it?
Do you realize some of us might not be lonely unmarried losers with no families and kids we plan to send to school?
Indeed, but I also realise that this issue tends to impact very few actual individuals outside of maybe having to call someone a different name than they had yesterday when they ask you to.
This issue impacts a lot of people, believe it or not. There are 73 million under 18 children in US. They all have two parents. That’s a lot of fucking people. Add the non parents who always have to walk on egg shells worried about getting cancelled. You don’t actually need to be canceled or interact with these people to be worried, the worry and stupidity affects a lot of people. Do you realize that? Do you realize this dumb shit is setting record lows for democrats in the polls for a reason?
Transgender population is like 0.35%. So assuming even distribution we're talking about more like 2.5 million than 73 million.
However I would still imagine the impact on your life will be calling someone by a name they want you to. For the most part that's the impact it has on our own personal lives.
Do you realize this dumb shit is setting record lows for democrats in the polls for a reason?
I would suggest this is more about getting the GOP vote out than it is about targeting swing voters.
You don’t have to have a transgender kid to be affected. That’s my whole point, everyone’s kids are subject to the insanity and indoctrination that is going on. Everyone is worried about the mob coming after them.
Also, I reject this idiotic notion of yours that one has to be directly affected by something in order to care. I’ve personally not been affected by financial scammers, or violent criminals, yet I still fully support jailing them. This ideology does not get a pass just because it’s not directly affecting a lot of people. They are forcing people to behave a certain way and they are indoctrinating kids with the ideology. They are transition kids before the age of 16. They are transitioning kids against their parent’s will. I don’t have to be directly affected by this in order to call it out.
They are transition kids before the age of 16.
Ye, I think the idea is that if you try to transition after your hormones have made irreversible changes then its harder. I'm pretty sure that to actually do a full medical transition you need to be adult or have parental approval.
They are transitioning kids against their parent’s will
I believe it can only physically happen with parental approval. I also don't believe someone taking puberty blockers counts as transitioning.
Everyone is worried about the mob coming after them.
Sorry, what mob are we talking about?
Also, I reject this idiotic notion of yours that one has to be directly affected by something in order to care.... I don’t have to be directly affected by this in order to call it out.
I'm trying to suggest that someone is energising you to vote. That is why I wish to ask you what actual impact it has on your life because I feel like it might have very little.
It’s terrifying how stupid and gullible people like you are…
Ye, I think the idea is that if you try to transition after your hormones have made irreversible changes then its harder. I’m pretty sure that to actually do a full medical transition you need to be adult or have parental approval.
Hormone blockers have never been used like this, and we’re starting to hear about some side effects (osteoporosis, ED, etc.). But yes, let’s keep giving it to kids.
I believe it can only physically happen with parental approval. I also don’t believe someone taking puberty blockers counts as transitioning.
One parent approving and the other disapproving is enough. This has already happened. The disapproving parent got charged with a crime(court pending). Again, this has already happened, this is not a prediction
Sorry, what mob are we talking about?
Oh we’re gonna pretend cancel culture isn’t real too?
I’m trying to suggest that someone is energising you to vote. That is why I wish to ask you what actual impact it has on your life because I feel like it might have very little.
I don’t vote, i don’t watch tv news. While the issue has become a political weapon, I don’t care about the politics around it. This is now a social issue that affects aspects of a lot of people’s lives. I simply look around me and society. I look at local shit, things they’re teaching at my school district, things my company forces me to do, things that happen to people I know.
I want to reiterate how idiotic your point of “this doesn’t affect you” is. I don’t ignore injustice just because it doesn’t affect me
I want to reiterate how idiotic your point of “this doesn’t affect you” is.
People who are transgender are even less of us than people who are LGB. My point remains that a lot of people are spending a lot of time getting very irate about very much of a minority of people.
We've been here before around race and immigration and about lesbians and gays and even religion. Big homogenous block of an elephant want to act like they're terrified of the mouse of a teeny tiny fraction of the population, act like its a threat to the very fabric of society and play the victim in an attempt to oppress said minority by taking away rights.
Hormone blockers have never been used like this, and we’re starting to hear about some side effects (osteoporosis, ED, etc.).
and I think out of all of the points this is one that has merit in discussing. However be aware that anyone taking those blockers over a long period of time is very likely wanting to transition anyway. The reason they work so well as a treatment is they give people the time to think about it more instead of hard committing one way or the other.
Oh we’re gonna pretend cancel culture isn’t real too?
What does this have to do with discussing trans issues?
People who are transgender are even less of us than people who are LGB. My point remains that a lot of people are spending a lot of time getting very irate about very much of a minority of people.
They care they don’t need to be trans to be affected by the politics around it… and even if you weren’t affected, it’s fine to stand by people who are being unfairly treated. By your logic we shouldn’t care about gay marriage because very few people are gay
By your logic we shouldn’t care about gay marriage because very few people are gay
I'm just saying for how very few it is, it occupies a lot of time in some sources of media. Lotta hand-wringing by a very few about a very few.
They care they don’t need to be trans to be affected by the politics around it
Afaik, I just have to call someone the name that they ask me to, even if like they don't look like a "Charles" or w/e. What else is the impact on me?
I’m just saying for how very few it is, it occupies a lot of time in some sources of media. Lotta hand-wringing by a very few about a very few.
Because the secondary problems that arise from something can get much larger than the source. I don’t get why you keep bringing up the size of the trans population as if it’s some sort of a slam dunk argument. It’s not. Their ideology has infested the entrie school system, peddled by mostly non trans people. It doesn’t matter how small the actual population is.
Afaik, I just have to call someone the name that they ask me to, even if like they don’t look like a “Charles” or w/e. What else is the impact on me?
It’s not just a name, it’s an entire ideology, it’s the redefining of words, it’s the exploding trans rates in liberals cities among very young kids, it’s the indoctrination
It doesn’t matter how small the actual population is.
sure it does. People talk a lot about something that is very few.
Their ideology has infested the entrie school system
What do you mean by ideology exactly?
It’s not just a name, it’s an entire ideology, it’s the redefining of words, it’s the exploding trans rates in liberals cities among very young kids, it’s the indoctrination
You're not providing examples. And the only "exploding trans rates" is going from 1 to 10 and people being like
1000% INCREASE HOLY FUCK
its still only ten people yo.
sure it does. People talk a lot about something that is very few.
Can’t you read? I said the secondary effects does impact a lot of people, therefore the size of the population is irrelevant
What do you mean by ideology exactly?
Gender theory (dumb name I know, I didn’t choose it)
You’re not providing examples. And the only “exploding trans rates” is going from 1 to 10 and people being like
its still only ten people yo.
Look up “rapid onset gender dysphoria”. It’s up 0.7% for 12-17 year old, 25 million of them, so a quarter million more. Yes, such irrelevance
Your stupidity and gullibility is honestly baffling to me
Can’t you read? I said the secondary effects does impact a lot of people, therefore the size of the population is irrelevant
What like asking that people know that some people are trans? I'm not sure what you mean.
Gender theory (dumb name I know, I didn’t choose it)
Its okay isn't it? Like previously it was assumed that men and women were biologically different and that's what mattered. Men poke each other with spears, women look after the kids. But a few thousand years later and we're way more egalitarian so mebs there's more to it. Gender theory suggests that the concepts are biological and social and what trans people do is flip the social but not necessarily the biological. Is that so crazy?
Look up “rapid onset gender dysphoria”. It’s up 0.7% for 12-17 year old, 25 million of them, so a quarter million more
Ye, I would expect there to be more once we stop enforcing gender roles in schools. It will top out though. I reckon if we didn't enforce gender roles at all there would be none, but that's just my own pet theory.
Your stupidity and gullibility is honestly baffling to me
Sorry, I'm just not really seeing the worst case scenario here that's got you so concerned. I get that its hard and weird af for older generations that had men and women as fixed notions when they grew up but I'm not really seeing anything that spooky in letting people present however they wanna.
I’m starting to realize you unironically have room temperature IQ and this is a waste of time.
I still don't understand what your problem is outside of:
think of the children
what's with the pearl clutching? Paint me your worst case scenario please.
Actually, proper therapy for handling PTSD involves exposing the patient to the stimuli that disturbs them so they can handle it and don’t fall apart when some fireworks goes off. No one will give them there advice of avoiding the world and the stimuli that bothers them. They “man up” and work with a professional in order to learn how to deal with their issue, and pushing them there is the most compassionate thing one can do.
But nooo, can’t do that with the Ts. The whole world needs to change so they don’t get disturbed.
The whole world needs to change
are we not just asking that you call someone by the name they want to be called by? Don't we do that anyway?
Actually, proper therapy for handling PTSD involves exposing the patient to the stimuli that disturbs them so they can handle it and don’t fall apart when some fireworks goes off.
Well perhaps there are avenues there that anyone's therapist can apply to better dealing with their past, including those who have transitioned. However that is different from someone firing fireworks next to a vet and then calling them soft when it triggers their trauma, ain't it?
are we not just asking that you call someone by the name they want to be called by? Don’t we do that anyway?
We got people in the highest offices of the government refusing to define “woman”. We got children being indoctrinated. This has gone far beyond just calling someone by a different name. To imply otherwise is at best stupid and at worst disingenuous
Well perhaps there are avenues there that anyone’s therapist can apply to better dealing with their past, including those who have transitioned. However that is different from someone firing fireworks next to a vet and then calling them soft when it triggers their trauma, ain’t it?
The point is, no one can guarantee fireworks will not go off near a vet, on purpose or not. You give them their life back by teaching them not to fall apart from it, not conform the world around them to what works for them.
Thats the whole point of the comment you replied to. You can’t change the world around you, learn to deal with it.
Imagine being so mentally weak a parrot makes you depressed
its genuinely saddening to see a generation just fall to pieces because of the normalisation of mental illness.
This is beyond an issue of mental illness. Straight up, I have two legit diagnosed mental disorders that have a notable effect on my life, but you'll never find me getting offended about stuff like this. I don't know what it is, but it's more to do with the ideology they subscribe to rather than serious mental illness. They also use terms like depressed when they aren't talking about depression. Their worldview encourages such things, it encourages them to be offended and to declare their oppressed status and victimhood because it's a social and political currency under woke ideology.
It also goes hand-in-hand with why mental illness has become a fad, people love talking about their mental illness. Almost no person with a real mental illness enjoys talking about it, and certainly wouldn't put it in their Twitter bio. I view this as a sort of narcissism, where they want to be unique and interesting, or as they call it, "neurodivergent". It's funny because they are also collectivists but are narcissistic at the same time and self obsessed.
TL;DR these people are mostly faking legitimate mental illness, and are often faking even being trans, they are simply ideologically indoctrinated.
Victimhood has become a tool to get power over others.
It's as simple as that. They get what they want, by acting like a victim.
Childrens used to getting attention and the toy they want after throwing a tantrum, will do it more often.
It’s also a great way for them to act like massive pieces of shit and not have to do any sort of self reflection or change. “Oh it’s not my fault I don’t get my work done and don’t clean my room, I have mental illnesses you should just accept it”. It’s a shield from criticism that allows them to avoid any sort of challenge in their life.
Is this.....appropriation??
Absolutely, they are appropriating my identity as a mentally ill person
Imagine refusing to fund research and make mental healthcare readily accessible, and then bitching when everyone says "Aight, guess we just build society around it then".
Where's your almighty invisible hand now? Very few people can afford the product, so the market should be correcting the prices right? OH WAIT, that's right. Most mental health professionals have adjusted their prices so they can survive off of their one or two rich clients, or even better, the PTSD ridden soldiers you used for your globally backed Islamic Holocaust.
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
I'm talking about how the market should have adjusted for this. If nobody can afford mental healthcare, prices should have fallen, right? But in yet another resounding example of "Capitalism is bullshit" they just started targeting a smaller, richer client base, most of which are self created by the very government that refuses to regulate them in the first place.
And no, because I know you dipshits are going to suggest it, the answer is not to remove therapy from VA benefits, or eliminate them altogether.
I'm talking about how the market should have adjusted for this.
It would if it was free.
You can thank your dear politicians for this.
Therapy makes men weaker,just go to the gym and be the best version of yourself and yeah i agree it is stupid expensive because it is a luxury,talking about your problems with a dipshit who asks you more questions than he answers is not a solution
Concur. Eat clean, lift, run, get 8 hours sleep, stop drinking. Imagine feeling so damned good
Humans aren’t built for living like these city dwelling socialites. The brain is a powerful problem solving tool that’s hard wired to reward things that will make you survive in the wild and discourage behavior that will get you ded. It’s no surprise that the daily grind of city life, hell even suburban life, is destroying people mentally. It’s literally the opposite of what our brains want.
isn't that just how psychological trauma works? Like PTSD in vets? Are vets "mentally weak"?
Being called a different name and seeing the horrors of war a not suprisingly very different things
we remember what hurts us and its only experiencing new levels of pain that we recalibrate. That remains a common abstract that binds together both experiences and in disrespecting the validity of one, IMHO you encourage the disrespect of the other.
Imagine if the parrot did a good impression of an artillery barrage.
Imagine being so mentally weak a parrot makes you depressed
“Imagine if…” aaannndd you lost. It’s not a “what if” scenario; some loser let a parrot get in their head over a dead name. That’s it. You can play the what if game all day and nothing good will come from it.
“Imagine if…” aaannndd you lost.
what do you mean? Arguments are better understood when you try them again while changing the parameters. The whole purpose of philosophy is to do so.
>Eventually driven to suicde
>Blame death on a talking bird
>Tfw your only legacy is autists praising your bird in a funny color meme
I always do my best to sympathise with the other side in memes like this, so that I understand both views and am not being biased. I’m trying to imagine being depressed because of a bird. I guess if you have had a very hard time transitioning and accepting yourself, then it might bring back bad memories, but like, it’s a parrot…it seems to say in the post that the family stopped deadnaming the son very quickly, so they must be somewhat supportive (though maybe not) which makes it seems like transitioning won’t have been that traumatic, so the bird won’t bring back as many bad memories? It’s very hard to judge without all of the details
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It's probably just the poster who is upset. Sympathetic, overactive anxiety. It's not the brother posting, after all.
"This is damaging my brother's mental health" has the same energy as an overprotective parent saying "My children need to be protected from seeing bare titties on HBO".
Lady, your kids will be fine.
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(As a trans person) I'd presume they'd just be uncomfortable with anything relating to them as a time as their assigned gender at birth not just the time between coming to terms with yourself and trying to transition, since personally despite also currently having a relatively smooth social transition I still feel mentally uncomfortable every once in a while seeing my deadname and this person would probably feel relatively similar
This is a world filled with uncomfort and humans are not static. Change always happens. I don't look at cringe pictures of myself or baby pictures and go 'thats not me!' it fucking is you and maybe the thing that is hurting your psyche is that youre not accepting that you felt like changing. Don't need to retcon your entire life
I get that and I agree to an extent, but I feel there's a difference between being a cringe child (which trust me, I was) and having genuine gender dysphoria of feeling mentally just wrong or out of place which when experiencing both are 2 different feelings and cringe I can easily get over being like oh I recognise I'm different now but since there are still reminders of my body being born wrong and out of place with my mind in terms of my gender identity and biological sex being different, that still brings be discomfort and a mental toll significantly more so than being a cringe kid
I can understand that..well put.
Interesting. If you're willing to put some concerns of mine to rest I would like to ask you a few questions in good faith. I won't think any less of you if you don't wish to answer them though.
The issue and my question is why transition if you are moving from one catagory to the next? You're becoming a women but you will be known as a trans women which in itself will be stigmatized. Even if you pass its more about how you feel about yourself. Moving from 1 categorization to another. Basically breaking down terms like biological women moves the goal post. So what exactly is the end goal here?
I suffer from depression which in many ways I can draw various different parallels from a lot of gender dysphoria symptoms(unless Im incorrect ofcourse) and my question is more about the self loathing and that it feels like you need to be affirmed at every corner. My point is you should beable to discard deadnamers and misgenderers like tissue paper if you are well adjusted(unless you're financially or in some other way reliant on them). Even then the biggest battle to me seems like your need to accept yourself. There's no point in pronouns, changing language and what not if you are unable to quell the beast that are your doubts. Even if people say they believe you there will always be some doubt that they're being genuine. Do you have these feelings? How do you deal with them?
Do you think the current mo of leftist are doing more harm than good? This goes back to my previous points about genuineness and censorship of opposition.
Again. Im asking these questions in good faith without any desire to cause harm. My concern is that any ideology without any scrutiny falls apart. The cultural right leaning backlash might be more extreme for instance. Again I won't hold it against you if you don't want to answer these questions as I don't have gender dysphoria so I probably won't understand. Like like how a neuotypical can't understand being autistic and vice versa.
Not the writer and not trans, but I am a therapist so I can try and highlight the difference between gender dysphoria and being transgender. Gender dysphoria essentially means that you are actively being distressed because your biological sex doesn’t match your gender identity and that distress is causing social impairments (for example, completely rejecting to engage in perceived “masculine” activities if you identify as a female). So, if a person were to undergo gender reassignment surgery and have their sex match their gender identity than gender dysphoria would go away, whereas if someone still had problems with perception of themselves it’s a sign that maybe there’s more going on than just being transgender. So while some transgender people might experience gender dysphoria pre-transition, the expected outcome would be that the dysphoria goes away after gender reassignment surgery and that any problems they face at that point would be more about society’s view towards them rather than a hateful view towards themselves for being in the wrong body. So, people can no longer have gender dysphoria but still have other negative views towards themselves for being trans if society is ingraining that in them (hence why a lot of LGTBQ+ people have depression and other mental health problems).
There’s also plenty of transgender people without gender dysphoria, where they’re fine transitioning at their own rate or not even fully transitioning through surgery at all, or who know that they will have gender reassignment soon and aren’t distressed by having to wait a bit to undergo the surgery. Or they do feel distressed but not to a level that it's impairing their life.
Hope this explains some of the mental health side of things! Tried to be thorough in my explanation!
Edit: A bit further of an explanation, a transgender client I work with doesn’t have gender dysphoria but hasn’t fully transitioned because of delays but she isn’t actively distressed by having male genitalia. She is distressed, however, by how other people perceive her because it’s having an impact on custody of children and things like that.
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I will try to answer these questions to the best of my ability as a trans woman but my opinion might vary slightly from other trans or cis peoples opinions so I will try to remain slightly generalised whilst still representing my personal experiences
As transitioning from the labels of Cis man to a Trans Female I know there is a lot of stigma around that word trans especially on people opinions on the validity of my identity as a woman but any label I would have that would say i am a man would just be wrong and I don't want to live with that when I know I can transition so I would much rather be a trans woman than not a woman at all as that would give me gender dysphoria. My goal is just to not experience gender dysphoria and feel like I am expressing myself as a woman personally so trying to live like a woman socially and physically would make me comfortable and that is what I want to achieve.
I cannot categorically confirm the parallels between gender dysphoria and depression but I would agree they have similarities for sure. Your point about about deadnames and pronouns are quite a 2 sided thing like either they're the wrong gender which is bad or the right one which is normal or good, people using they/them pronouns is kind of an example as yea I don't really care for any means "they" is not good or bad I just don't want to be misgendered thats all since that makes me feel wrong and out of place and that's where the mental discomfort comes from.
I am quite uneducated on the general leftist movement and there definitely is a difference between the LibLeft and the LGBTQIA+ but I don't think the oppositions and separations are a good thing categorisation can often times be unnecessary and especially with the LGBT if everyone could be different without being forced into different categories everyone can just be considered normal and that's fine without any stigma and that can apply for most things that are unnecessarily categorised. Yet again more far leaning leftists could certainly have a different opinion to me personally and I understand that.
Sorry if any of that is unclear I tried to write this somewhat quickly but I'm happy to answer any further questions if I didnt answer them properly or they spark more questions so feel free
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Hell, plenty of people get uncomfortable seeing names of people they don’t want to see anymore. Exes and things like that.
Even contextless invocations of a name with bad memories can trigger negative feelings in people. This isn’t crazy.
It’s why my little Adolf tends to make other kids at a Bar Mitzvah uncomfortable.
Imagine if it was a YouTube video that went viral for whatever reason and it kept showing up randomly as they scrolled through reddit or smth.
The birb is just a recording that plays randomly regardless of whether you want it to or not.
the mf sees a bird and imagines a noose there
You don’t? Why do you think a group of crows is called a murder? A group of parrots is obviously called a suicide 🙄
Parrots don't care about your feelings
Holy shit
Reject humanity. Return to parrot.
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Reddit is trash if they ban this sub
I joined this sub recently.
Was expecting some alt right or alt left bullshit
Instead I found a gem where every political view is discussed and made fun of with no hard feelings
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I wonder what they'll think when they see Cuties and all the other pedo shit that's being pushed by hollywood
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careful you said the g word 😟
Now now, I never accused anyone of any alphabet based groups of being such, nor admins of any such website. The only people I accused of such are members of a pedophilic death cult, and as far as I'm aware they aren't members of such, right?
doubt the admins on reddit will listen 😞😞
Coming after me is an admission of being such or believing such themselves. I merely set the words down the decision to pick them up and apply them to a specific group is on them.
true that
This is pretty much the narrative for all of Infant Annihilator’s albums.
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Yeah I know. I forgot, you abominable intelligence
wait, are we discussing the catholic church? or mormons? what?
Unfortunately that would be nothing new, you could probably find some pedo subculture/tradition in every society since the monke age
funny enough it's usually the more conservative areas that have trouble keeping their hands off the kids. Projectin better than the 4K
Unless it's worse in 200 years...
I'm afraid of agreeing, so I'll just say "1984" or something, don't know
Upvotes = agreement now since words have no meaning here anymore
In the future, certain elective surgeries will be looked back on in the same we we look back on lobotomies today.
Except lobotomies were done at a time when most people didn't give a shit about ethics. I don't think anyone peddled lobotomies as safe and morally correct unlike the freaks of current year.
They argued on a more broader level. Like "it's better for society" and so on. People nearly always argue(d) ethics in their doings, humans need it. You know, even the Nazis for example said that the killing of disabled people was morally correct. While they still tried to hide it, which shows that in some instances not even the most evil people really believe in their own arguments.
Eugenics was very progressive and a favorite topic for the highly educated elite back then.
Still is.
Aktion T4 (the "euthanasia" of disabled people in the the late 30s, before the Holocaust started in earnest) was wildly unpopular among Germans. The Nazis actually stopped the program due to public opinion pressure which is quite remarkable.
Of course, when the war started and they began mass murdering they did this somewhat in secret. Perhaps they knew that most Germans would not support what they were doing despite years of indoctrination.
So they never argued it was good for the individuals they killed.
And those individuals didn't agree that it was good for them to be killed.
It really seems that what you're talking about has absolutely nothing to do with trans people transitioning.
Tbf, no one cares about ethics now.
these are provably working, unlike lobotomies which often just fried ya
A neo penis won’t produce semen nor can a neo vagina hold a child
and an infertile penis or vagina can't do that either. You gonna call your mom a man once she's old? Kinda cringe, she probably won't like that
The parts may stop working but that doesn't change the base code that built them.
People can deny reality all they want but their own body is the most immutable of characteristics of who they are, no matter how much they wish to deny it and mutilate it. And y'all say "well gender is a social construct, sex is the genetic side" and then pat yourselves on the back for the big-brain work. And then you turn around and and take the person who has denied the "assigned" gender and try to make them match the genetic sex physically much as possible. If it was just about the social construct, it would be a different story, a quintessential tale of fighting against the oppression of society. Instead it's whatever this madness is, a total denial of reality.
That's the reason infertility is treated as a medical issue.
because people don't like it? I'm pretty sure gender dysphoria's also people not liking a thing and then seeking to change it
"Not liking a thing". You think all this is about NOT LIKING a thing. Jesus Fucking Christ.
"Not liking a thing". You think all this is about NOT LIKING a thing.
I mean that's a simple way of putting dysphoria. Not sure if people upset about being infertile feel the same way, i'm sure some do.
personally i wouldn't care if the surgery would make me infertile, if i woke up and didn't have my dong, i'd want it back. I wouldn't even care if i was infertile now tbh
It’s artificially constructed and don’t serve a purpose, it’s only cosmetic. Whilst infertile one are natural but defective
Do you feel this strongly about other cosmetic surgeries?
No they don’t sacrifice something as vital as procreation
don’t serve a purpose, it's only cosmetic
lol didn't even notice the contradiction in their own wording.
If a surgery serves to greatly increase your happiness, that's purpose enough on it's own. And it's verifiable in that aspect
" Whilst infertile one are natural but defective"
ew gross you think rape is good? Infanticide? that shit's natural as hell, you want me to call the cops?
Mutilating yourself and sacrificing a probably working ding dong that serves a biological purpose to get a neo vagina that looks like doo doo and don’t do shit except maybe make you feel happier is not a decision one should even be making especially not the mentally ill and vulnerable.
I never said natural was good? I said it was just that, natural.
Mutilating yourself
surgery isn't mutilation bud
"working ding dong that serves a biological purpose"
they evidently don't care. stop forcing your desires on other, you rapist baby killer.
"not a decision one should even be making especially not the mentally ill and vulnerable."
too bad the vast majority of data shows it helps. if it didn't, you might have an argument
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also how would you explain the giant suicide stat?
the one that goes down with the surgery? the one that folks like you hope to increase?
"Transphobia?"
you mean the fairly provable cause? That the rate jumps up in enviroments without acceptance of you, that even just having your family support you drastically drops the rate?
"It literally is"
sorry bud read the definition. if that doesn't help, try removing the brick lodged in your skull cap, then get a friend to squish your brain back into it's proper shape
"it’s barbaric"
no
" serves no purpose, "
already proven wrong, cope
"A lot of folks have it worst "
but have communities that accept them.
"still doesn’t have the suicide percentage of a Jew in the Holocaust"
pretty sure you weren't allowed to kill yourself, both by the guards and it being a sin, but also apples to oranges make a less stupid and more relevant comparison
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just because we don’t like to be bullied into accepting delusions doesn’t mean transphobia
"woah just cause i'm transphobic doesn't meant i'm transphobic"
Bro you do know that a "not a" can't also be an "a" right? This is just basic logic
"It literally serves no purpose"
wrong, cope again but harder this time
are you stupid or trying to feed your prosecution delusion by catching a ban? You're aware that repeating a thing doesn't make it more true, as much as you seem to like holocaust era things
You can paint an orange red ; it’s still forever an orange, it can cut out bits to be in shape of an apple but it will still be an orange, you can test it for it’s biology and it will say it’s an orange it will never be an apple it’s need to accept this and stop forcing people to adhere to its delusion of being an apple.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885 trans suicide are more abundant a few years after gender reassignment
You can’t fix dysphoria with surgery they should come to accept it themselves; you don’t treat anorexia with liposuction and follows the patients delusion. Same goes for this.
Did you just tell me to not feed my delusions of prosecution (I have none) and then on the same breath say trans people are the gender they identify as?
Keep repeating cope like you said, it’s still not gonna suddenly become true.
Keep repeating that you’re the gender that you identify as, it still wont turn true.
The only way you can keep being deluded is silencing dissent, you’re doing the same shit. It’s not a complex if you actually are prosecution people ya muffin, stop trying to bully people into your delusions.
. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria
oh hold on so it does work? perhaps confonding variables like the transphobia thing ya mentioned?
Dhejne et al. 11 (sometimes referred to as the Sweden study), study name “Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden”
Commonly cited by anti-trans activists to indicate sexual reassignment surgery harms trans people, increases risk of suicide.
This is NOT what the study says
A study proving that SRS harms trans people would compare the wellbeing of post-SRS trans people to pre-SRS trans people, but this one uses CIS people as a control group. Because of this, we can only use the data to compare certain trans people to the cis population - we can’t compare pre-SRS to post-SRS with this data.
An excerpt from the study - “no inferences can be drawn as to the effectiveness of sex reassignment as a treatment for transsexualism. In other words, the results should not be interpreted such as sex reassignment per se increases morbidity and mortality. Things might have been even worse without sex reassignment.”
The study merely demonstrates that trans people who have had SRS still are a vulnerable population compared to cis people, but NOT that their condition had been worsened by SRS.
The head author, Cecilia Dhejne, is actually very trans positive herself, and describes her intent in publishing this study in this Reddit AMA. She also clarifies what the study says in this interview.
From the Reddit AMA: “I have said many times that the study is not design to evaluate the outcome of medical transition. It DOES NOT say that medical transition causes people to commit suicide.”
From a different published work by Dhejne directly summarizing the study: “This study cannot determine the effectiveness of gender-affirming medical intervention”
On top of all of this, a different study also focused on Sweden reaffirmed that SRS leads to satisfaction in the long run (though this one had 5 years of data while the Dhejne study had 20 years)
Something important to note about the time period of this study is that societal attitudes toward transgender people may have changed during the study’s timeframe, between 1973 and 2003. The same is true for transgender healthcare itself. This means that the outcomes of transitioning in 1970 could very well differ from the outcomes of transition in 1990.
“In accordance, the overall mortality rate was only significantly increased for the group operated before 1989. However, the latter might also be explained by improved health care for transsexual persons during 1990s, along with altered societal attitudes towards persons with different gender expressions.”
Brief on the study’s misuse in this video https://youtu.be/WNjdTNYzWbc?t=1037 17 minutes in
This study is also cited to prove that “trans women retain male pattern violence” and was misrepresented so much that the author herself had an interview to discuss how that's not what the study is saying. This article by Gemma Stone goes over this specific talking point.
So even your study doesn't agree with you. and this is what you bring to prove your point? talk about steppin on a rake
Dude, it proves even more that there is a correlation, the study makers try to make it a certain way and it still ended up the other way. Stop Parroting shit and start thinking and saying for yourself.
Correlation =/= causation. It looks like you didn't even read the study.
Dude you're parroting a point that the study doesn't find. You're parroting a narritive you made up/heard from some other dumbass. I pointed out the study's actual findings and merit. You tried to invent one
and then, even if we granted that study which we won't cause it's not supporting your case, there are a deluge of other studies that fight that point.
Please, i'm begging you pull your head out of your ass
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If the data literally says something even if the researcher says otherwise due to her beliefs, it’s still points to there being a correlation.
correlation isn't causation and the study doesn't say what you want it to, i pointed that out since you are so desperate for a W but sorry no participation trophies to give
Should i call a doctor, you look really buried in that colon. Or do you enjoy huffing farts more than thinking logically?
Do you default to name calling because you can’t think about this logically?
It’s not like corporations have a vested interest to keep the industry alive or anything, if you think it’s gonna be a one size fits all solution you’re sorely wrong and the process is irreversible even if they regret it.
You still haven’t refuted my central point about detrans and money hungry fucks trying to groom vulnerable people into potentially ruining their lives.
Correlation doesn’t mean direct causation, I’ll give you that, however it supports my hypothesized causation aka regret.
You’ve been name calling using only buzzwords and trying to dodge the point and parroting form the start , you’re being an absolute npc.
Do you default to name calling because you can’t think about this logically?
I defaulted to name calling because you're clearly not thinking about this logically, really at all tbh.
"t’s not like corporations have a vested interest to keep the industry alive or anything"
ok nationalize it. Oh and stop doing bone fixings, they're clearly just lying
"You still haven’t refuted my central point about detrans"
extremely small percentage of already small group
"money hungry fucks trying to groom vulnerable people into potentially ruining their lives."
ok nationalize medical industry or stop pretending you have a problem with capitalist hospitals
I don’t have a problem with capitalist hospitals but the gender industry?
You’re forcing people to pay for cosmetic surgery for no reason, if there’s a 40 percent chance your tax dollars gonna go down the drain it’s seriously not worth it
It’s still there, just because it’s small doesn’t mean it’s not there you can’t just dismiss it or everyone would have immediately dismissed the trans population and wouldn’t be bullied into this madness to begin with
There is no logic in your arguments, just buzzwords and name calling, you’re appealing to emotion whilst calling it logic; which it isn’t.
"I don’t have a problem with capitalist hospitals but the gender industry?"
mf gender industry? dude you having a stroke?
"You’re forcing people"
no
"cosmetic surgery for no reason"
already lost on that one, please stop repeating things my good bot
"It’s still there, just because it’s small doesn’t mean it’s not"
alright well i guess we're banning basically everything since, while a lot of things we enjoy have a great deal of plus with small downsides or even situational ones, we can't allow that small chance to happen. Your free will? people do murder with that, let me lobotomize you
"you’re appealing to emotion whilst calling it logic;"
>heh look at this study
>it not only doesn't say what you claim but is frankly against you
>well i FEEL like it supports me and that's really all that matters
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Gender industry is a thing; I may have fucked up on the numbers but the main point is still there
It’s still at best cosmetic whilst at worst mutilating someone who regrets it
The fuck do you think nationalizing healthcare does? Money has to come from somewhere? You’re forcing that someone to pay for it.
That wasn’t my point, it was about how if we dismiss the small aka detrans then we should have dismiss trans in the first place
Feel what? I made my mind with the facts presented and ended up coming up with that conclusion I didn’t use emotion at all.
It’s still at best cosmetic
if you consider surgery that greatly improves someone's life cosmetic, i dunno that kinda sounds like a "brick lodged in brain" problem that i don't have any way to relate to, being a fan of non concave brain
"The fuck do you think nationalizing healthcare does?"
removes it from being just a capitalism thing, since you seem to be harping on about the "exploitation". boom now it's free at service and detransition is too
"I made my mind with the facts presented "
ones that are wrong that you refuse to acknowledge are, despite it being extremely clear. reading a point into a single study that doesn't even support that point, much less sum up the totality of the gender medical idea. So uh, not very logical, almost like you were looking to confirm a bias
You know what fuck it,it’s been 2 full days. And aren’t a step closer to changing each other’s mind.YWNBARW stop forcing people to adhere to your delusions that is all.
Stop basing your beliefs on things that are wrong, like come on that's the first step to having a sound argument.
and minors let's not forget
13-year-old girls are given double mastectomies to transition in the United States and most likely other Western countries.
Oh holy shit? is that real? That's mutilation
They praised her when she was trans and afterward you have to look for her Twitter or read about it in the Post. Double mastectomy at 15, literally below the age of sexual consent in all 50 states (barring Romeo and Juliette exceptions).
The US is supremely fucked when it comes to the psychological and medical treatment of trans children.
Those are two different very young people named Chloe who transitioned. The first is male to female (was put on puberty blockers, given estrogen, and was doing voice coaching to sound like a woman) and the second was female to male and then back to female (got rid of female organs and now regrets it).
https://i.imgur.com/Lby9Vgt.png
That chart is from a 2018 study. You can imagine how much crazier things have gotten since then.
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I actually got a one week suspension for correctly answering a question with that statistic
That's for those who don't transition, iirc.
I think that the reason it’s brought up is because it’s almost identical before and after transition.
Btw admins, I’m talking about film editing techniques, nothing else.
Do you have a source for that?
A quick Google search tells me the opposite.
Imagine how weak your ego and soul must be to have your mental health damaged by a bird.
Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore."
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That’s what I was trying to say, it came out badly
Well, then I interpreted it wrong. Sorry.
No no, I’ve read my comment and it was worded very badly. It’s my fault
If the mental illness is caused by the genitals, then you can call them healthy all you want, but they're still causing an illness.
"It's barbaric to cut someone's healthy arm off just because it's stuck under immovable rubble."
Based
Patient: My body is disgustingly fat, I need you to cut some of it off.
Doctor: No, you’re anorexic and need to eat more
Patient: There is bugs inside my skin, I need you to cut them out
Doctor: No, you’re schizophrenic and need medication. I was born a male but am in the wrong body, I’m actually a woman, can you cut my penis off?
Doctor: That’ll be 20k please.
…and thought they were helping them.
Unfathomally based.
Imagine having less of an understanding of gender than a bird.
I Wholeheartedly agree that being trans is a mental illness, but I think that said mental illness can only be cured by letting us transition.
We should treat schizophrenia by pretending that the people they see are actually real. That’ll show em.
Based comparison
Happy cake day btw
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Should we also treat somatoparaphrenia by cutting off patients' arm?
Do we let people with Anorexia Nervosa starve themselves to death?
Anorexia Nervosa is an inherently harmful disorder, Transgenderism is not. We merely want to transition into the gender that we actually are.
You are mutilating your bodies. Destroying your bodies hormonal balance. That is harm buddy.
Transgenderism is extreme body dysmorphia combined with Schizophrenia.
The madness of the insane should not be entertained, but healed.
If they have had a lot of good therapy and comfort, and help with their mental illness, but still feel wrong, I guess they should be able to transition after a lot of consultation and conversations about the consequences
I'm cracking up at all the downvotes and pearl clutching, because you simply suggest: Let adults do what they want with their body and live their best life. As long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.
I'm not the biggest trans advocate by any means; but the arguments in the comments against you are absolute dogshit.
You know, you can still think that there shouldn't be any restrictions for adults regarding this (and many other things), exactly because of what you've said, while criticizing the practice overall. The same goes with for example drugs or prostitution, I, as many other libertarians, hold the opinion that it should be legal and all, while still criticizing the consumption of it, exactly because other people (as long as adult) can or at least should can fuck themselves up like they want, but that doesn't make it right.
I'm sure if you would ask the LibRights that you're talking about, they would (nearly) all say exactly this. Because being LibRight/libertarian doesn't mean to be without opinion or culture.
Yeah I don't think a trans person's mere existence affects you as much as someone strung out on drugs or soliciting prostitution. Dealing with a trans person might be an inconvenience but so is dealing with disabled people or annoying people.
To be honest you sound like a huge pussy if trans people existing affects you that much. Also I'm not talking about the insane activists who deny biology; I'm talking about the people who just want to blend in and live their lives.
I haven't said that it's affecting me. I wouldn't even really say that prostitution would affect me, because as far as I'm aware the solicitation of prostitution isn't really present. And I also would not say that dealing with a trans person or a disabled person is an inconvenience, neither is their existence.
People that held a similar stance like me just think that it's not good (or at least not the best) for the individual and it would be better to help the individual in another way. Which brings us to the beginning of the discussion.
think that it's not good (or at least not the best)
In what way?
Do you think people choose to be trans? Do you think some kid growing up in the midwest or south wakes up and says "You know what? I'd like to make my life harder" ?
What do you think is the best course of action for trans people? Have them just bottle it up and not express themselves in a way that makes them happy?
Also, I'm sure you are just the poster boy for healthy lifestyle choices right?
That's a deeply flawed argument. So if someone with anorexia genuinely feels most content with themselves when they are starving themselves, we should continue to celebrate it and let it happen?
How about when someone is so obese they can't even walk? Should this be encouraged because they're living their "best life?"
Public health is a very real concern and self harm is still harm, even if it's happily inflicted.
People have an obligation to safeguard their communities from self destructive behaviors.
Your comparisons are shit. Someone taking hormones isn't anywhere near as harmful to the body as anorexia or obesity. Funny you should bring up obesity; should we control what they eat? Should we ban fatties from communities?
Ok so pick any other disorder with less harmful symptoms, that doesn't change anything. Enabling self-destructive habits still shouldn't be celebrated. I'm not gonna tell someone with eczema to scratch their skin raw because it feels good to them, sure it's less harmful than anorexia, still bad.
I don't think the State should interfere with this but if a community wants combat the obesity epidemic by promoting healthier habits then I have nothing against that. As long as it's not a legal mandate I have no issue with a community trying to improve their collective health and wellness. Why are you so against this?
Your auth is showing. I love how you're criticizing peoples' lifestyles but your posts are nothing but excess and materialism. What if I don't want to share air with bug-boys like you that collect Yeezy's and shit, and fill up landfills with crap.
Lmfao is see you've ran out of good points to make. Keep calling out my highschool posts from literally over 5 years ago though I'm sure that will change my mind... Some people are so fucking behind they actually believe they're leading the race.
I clicked your account because I wanted to see what makes an authoritarian masquerading as a libleft tick.
I'm glad you stopped collecting sneakers and streetwear; did you get tired of being the known [redacted]?
You sound unwell, I don't know what you're on about mate.
Get a good night's rest and maybe take a break from Reddit.
Right back at you hypebeast.
Someone taking hormones isn’t anywhere near as harmful to the body as anorexia or obesity.
Yes because that’s definitely the topic here, hormones
Where are placing the goalposts for this argument? They were never established. I think chopping your dick off is idiotic and the vast majority of trans people do not opt for that surgery.
So the surgery is idiotic but taking hormones that render your genitals completely useless isn't? At that point they may as well be chopped off
Where is the line?
That's quite the leap you're making. Taking hormones doesn't render your genitals useless; they can still go to the bathroom. The only thing that stops working is their ability to reproduce.
Where is the line?
Who the fuck are you to decide where the line is for how adults can modify their body? Fatties deserve more criticism than trans people; at least that shit is a choice.
The only thing that stops working is their ability to reproduce.
Oh, just their ability to reproduce, nothing much then. Genitals are called genitals because they are used for reproducing, all the other functions are secondary and can be replaced/bypassed but you cannot replace or reproduce the reproductive systems function. So for you to say "The only thing that stops working is their ability to reproduce" is unbelievably stupid IMO.
I never said anything about stopping people from doing it if they want to, what I said was I think it is also idiotic to take hormones.
Funny how you go to the typical canned response too, despite me never saying anything about stopping anyone from doing anything
I'm pretty sure going to the bathroom is more important than reproducing.
You're the one with shitty comparisons. Taking hormones is nowhere near the same as removing your penis.
Again, I didn't say they were the same I said they were both idiotic in contrary to your statement that only the surgery is idiotic.
You are unhinged
You are unhinged
Not giving a shit what adults do with their own body is unhinged? You should go talk to someone maybe see a therapist.
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I never said any of that you Lil Carmine. I will say; you are on brand as an auth for wanting to control the direction of society. What if I don't want degen stoners like you in my society?
Uh oh, you said wrong thing, now you get downvoted. I agree, though, these guys are larping as mental health professionals and act like they know what's best for trans people. It's really stupid and cringe.
From experience, most of us actually care about deadnaming, and almost all about pronouns. I honestly don’t care about either.
Cool. I think that's a healthy mindset, actually.
u think we're gna be around a few hundred years from now the way climate change is going?
We only have 12 years remaining, right?
No, the twelve years estimate was 14 years ago. Now it’s 8 years.
idk. definitely not 500 tho
There have always been people like you throughout history saying the end is near. “But this time it’s different!”
it's actual science and statistics. not conspiracy and the majority of the scientific community agrees. denial doesn't do shit but accelerate consumption and create profit for ppl way richer than ull ever be. which makes u a simp for ceos of companies that will never know u exist. it's honestly incredibly sad for you. ur own planet is dying but ur so brainwashed by capitalism that u think the oil corporations are somehow on ur side. such a fucking bootlicker I almost have sympathy for u.
I’m a scientist and do think the climate is changing. Learn to spell before calling someone else dumb.
climate change is accelerating at a hazardous rate. and ok whatever but the overall consensus is that what i just said. when did i call anyone dumb or spell anything wrong that i didn't automatically correct?
I work in a company that makes most of our money in renewable energy (offshore wind).I would love to have a lot more offshore wind farms for personal gain.
i dont give af about ur personal gain. but yeah wind is cool, nuclear is even better. idk why u think this is an argument.
I just don’t think the human race is going to die out in the next 500 years
if humanity continues to burn fossil fuels, if western nations rely on individual vehicles as opposed to public transport, and if we continue to have the main motivator of production be profit rather than mass benefit I think the earth in its most natural form wont be prioritized and would continue to be extorted for short term gain. we can already feel the effects of global warming. I can only imagine what it will b like in 50 years let alone 100-500.
It’s not just a problem of the West though. Will you damn all those in the developing world and tell them they can’t have the same standard of living you have or should we just tell them they can’t have children?
Yeah, it’s not just the problem of the west. Sure we have a lot to do. But it is called global warming. We all need work hard and together
By telling them they can’t any of the luxuries that we have grown accustomed to. Just another form of imperialism…
That is one of the debates, I guess we have to try and develop equivalent luxuries that are green
neither. i would implement socialism across the globe. overpopulation isn't the issue, overconsumption by the wealthy is. we have enough food and housing to sustain everyone. the first world subsists off of the labor exploitation of the third world. I would eliminate that inequality and slavery. it's not an either/or like capitalists like to insinuate. the american and chinese workers aren't enemies, we're comrades engaged in the same struggle.
😂 😂 I will tell you that you would have very little support globally. The first world will have an uprising because they don’t want you to destroy their way of life. The rest of the world will see you just as another imperialist thinking you know their needs better than they do.
there are socialist uprisings in south/central america and africa consistently. and fuck our way of life. I dont care about yuppies having nice cars and houses if others have nothing.
The yuppies will fight you for it. Also, I’m not sure socialist uprisings in Latin America are very good examples. I go to a shanty town every few years in Nicaragua and see how horrible the Sandinistas have destroyed their country. They have very little support amongst the poor, and are just cruel dictators.
Edit: I don’t go preach or anything religious in Latin America. I support a family there and sending their kids to university.
well fuck them we got guns too. and it's not necessarily easy for a country under western imperialism and pressure to have a perfect economy but the people of latin america certainly seem to want something other than capitalism. if u look at the history of neoliberalism and dictatorship of latin america, the socialist administrations don't even come close to the death, torture and brutality of right wing administrations. it's not even comparable.
Not sure how you actually believe any of that, but oh well. I have been going to various impoverished countries in Latin America longer than you’ve been alive, and can tell you socialism has not helped these communities. Every few years, where free elections are allowed, the voters kick out the socialists from power. It’s like a swinging pendulum.
for example, cuba has a better literacy and better healthcare than the US. before the revolution, the literacy rate and healthcare wasn't nearly what it is now. cuba was a genocidal dictatorship backed by the US
And it’s not a genocidal dictatorship now?
I admit that Cuban doctors are good. One saved my life last fall in South America since the local doctors were completely incompetent. By the way, all Cuban expats I’ve ever met never want to return.
definitely not. a dictatorship arguably, but not genocidal. batista killed about as much in 7 years than castro did in 60+ years. not to mention the slave plantations under batista.
and of course expats don't want to return that's why they're not in cuba. many will talk fondly of the batista regime bcs they benefitted from it. "oh castro took my dad's slave plantation poor me" plus they're under decades of sanctions/embargo and not really allowed to participate in the global economy. and don't even give me the food and medicine exception argument.
uprisings
On the wood creating impact in society(negative that is)
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oh no a 'third positionist' is making fun of me. I totally care what a fascist thinks about me. ppl like u should be and will be executed once we take power i hope u know that.
Don't care + you are using strawman + your ideas will never be inplemented because they are idiotic at absurd levels.
what strawman mr heimbach?
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ok mr. totally not in line with fascism whatsoever
ur like 13. i hope u get out of the rabbit hole.
Says the person that thinks a socialist global revolution will happens and that "global warming will kill us all in 500 years".
I hope you one day get out of your ivory tower and step on grass.
i mean i don't necessarily think it'll happen but that would be ideal. trains in canada are already melting to the track so its coming pretty soon
Trains are melting because of negligency, poor materials made with poor logistics, using cheap thing that only work on winter, nothing to do with climate change going to kill us.
We have better chances of an antichrist coming to earth and causing the apocalypse in 5 minutes than to go extinct because the canada made poor material decisions.
that's clearly not the point. there are record high temps in canada. they used materials they could reasonably expect to not melt bcs of average temperatures in the area.
There was also record low temperatures in texas some time back, materials should be in order with all possible climates.
yeah, that's a part of climate change too. that's like saying "global warming isn't real bcs its cold outside" which is a dumbass take.
Another strawman...
All of the climate experienced in thoses regions are normal even if uncommon, it is a matter of negligency.
I can only imagine what it will b like in 50 years let alone 100-500.
Then why do you think all humans will be dead?
Glad to see we both feel the same about nuclear
The science doesn't support the extinction of humanity.
That's just fear mongering.
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the planet that currently sustains this worm is being poisoned by the bird this worm is simping for. this isn't good for the worm because the worm presumably wants to remain alive and cares about all the other worms and birds on this planet
Who is simping for whom?
i personally dont want my family, friends, offspring, new generations and other life on earth to suffer or die. climate will kill life on earth if it keeps going the way it is currently.
Don’t worry bud. We’re arguing on Reddit. We don’t have any offspring or future generations to worry about. We are the end of our bloodlines.
I mean fair lol but I have a nephew
Life on Earth survived much, much, much, much worse catastrophes.
Statistics that do not factor in the sun for climate in their variables.
Statistitics that have been CONSISTENTLY wrong. You do not have a SINGLE correct prediction that was even CLOSE to reallity.
"The sun" oh lord lol
Amen
Do you agree that there's a difference when modern physicists say the universe is expanding vs when the prophet Mohammed said it several thousand years ago?
If you do, there's a very short step to understanding that there's a difference between when doomsayers say the end is nigh and when modern scientists tell us exactly how and why.
If you don't, you should think about why we have GPS satellites and the ancient Persians didn't.
Modern physicists will tell you the universe will end, which it definitely will, but these guys will not try to predict accurately when it will happen.
There is very little difference between ancient prophets, comet hailers and environmentalists that tell you the world will end on a certain date.
Earth will rid itself of us, but it will take a lot longer than anyone will predict. Humans have been adapting to ever changing environments throughout our history, and we will continue to adapt through innovation.
You should read the actual IPCC reports.
Climate alarmism has been a far bigger detriment to addressing climate change than any oil-funded skepticism.
Unabated climate change would kill a lot of people, but it wouldn't wipe out the species... you are aware of that, right? lol
I mean you don't think we might have a nuclear joker moment or something once resources get scarce? I don't think climate change alone would be able to send us the way of the dodo, but it could definitely give us a good push
That's actually the more realistic way to look at it (that economic and political distress are the more likely proximate cause of our demise)...yet that doesn't necessarily bolster the climate alarmism argument:
Economic growth and wealth solve almost all problems and lack of them create or exacerbate almost all social ills.
It's true that water shortages could cause wars and rising sea levels could send refugees into tense geopolitical situations...but its also true that choosing unnecessarily authoritarian policies to respond to climate change will hobble wealth creation and innovation.
The human race has used economic growth and technology, over the past century or so, to reduce our climate-caused deaths by over 90%.
It would be a fools bet to think that we're more likely to succumb to demise by failing to rein in C02 emissions, rather than meet our demise by destroying the engines of prosperity and our ability to adapt to changing climate.
Economic growth and wealth solve almost all problems and lack of them create or exacerbate almost all social ills.
you mean the thing that's helping the greenhouse gases get more emitted? Industrialization has definitely given us some great stuff, but the whole CO2 and general pollution is definitely a downer
"but its also true that choosing unnecessarily authoritarian policies to respond to climate change will hobble wealth creation and innovation."
I'm pretty sure people said that paying slaves would hobble wealth creation and innovation lmao.
we already know a great deal of how to stop this from getting out of hand. I don't think it's authoritarian to make sure a bunch of rich dickheads don't get to shit all over the nightmare they won't have to live to see or will be isolated from. I think if anything, it's actually authoritarian to let them do so
You're still not thinking with your brain.
You're regurgitating the dogma that a pseudo-science cult has trained to scream in the back of your mind all the time.
Economic growth does not mean rich people's stonks. It means literal life and death for human beings.
Emitting c02 in the course of creating modernity and prosperity is in no way comparable to slavery. The slaver's claim being wrong, has no bearing on the facts about the relationship between economic growth and nearly every social and physical problem humans face.
Economics is a science, friend. I know that the populist zeitgeist is to view it as a plot by rich libertarians to enslave you in a neo-feudal hellscape or something...but the predictions of climate science end at the physics, and the social sciences must pick things up from there to be able to tell us which policies will best address things based on what the climate scientists tell us are the range of possible earth-system outcomes.
Economic science has been studying the social and economic implications of climate change in a very empirical and rigorous manner, you know? It's not a plot or a conspiracy. It's just the facts as best as any social science can possibly know them:
We are not going to die in 12 years or even 100 years, unless some long-tail event that even the IPCC's worst-case scenario isn't predicting, comes to pass.
Policies which go much beyond modest carbon taxes or cap and trade schemes, are likely to cause more death and human suffering, than climate change unabated. We are more likely to be able to save ourselves and earths environs and adapt to climate change, if we are as rich as possible, than if we eat the proverbial seed crop in foolish attempts to reach zero carbon at all costs.
For fuck's sake- environmentalists are half the reason we are still burning fossil fuels in the u.s. instead of fully nuclearized. Environmental alarmists have always been and continue to be, the very worst people to listen to.
Listen to actual scientists in the fields in which they have relevant expertise.
Economic growth does not mean rich people's stonks. It means literal life and death for human beings.
those are not contradictory? In fact, often economic growth can happen even while people die in poverty.
"Emitting c02 in the course of creating modernity and prosperity is in no way comparable to slavery."
both are bad. ending/limiting either had people argue you shouldn't because what about my money and innovation. so yes still apt despite the text block
"Economics is a science, friend."
As much as sociology and such is i guess?
"Policies which go much beyond modest carbon taxes or cap and trade schemes, are likely to cause more death and human suffering, than climate change unabated"
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"rich libertarians to enslave you in a neo-feudal hellscape or something"
lot of folks do just want that to happen, they also advocate we do nothing as the world prepares to become less habitable for us, while they keep brrin that money machine. Almost like they have a conflicting interest or somethin
"We are more likely to be able to save ourselves and earths environs and adapt to climate change, if we are as rich as possible"
which is why the usa is doing the best at the green power thing, cause we're the richest. Wait hold on we're not? We're the worst by some metrics? Well shit
You justify your nonsensical way of looking at things and sidestep the facts in exactly the same ways that flat-earthers operate.
Drop the ideological rhetoric and sophistry for two seconds and actually examine the science and data for yourself.
You're telling me that i should be glad bout greenhouse gases, when those are one of the biggest things that's causing global warming. that i should let them pollute away otherwise we might do a 1984 or something?
but i'm the guy not making sense? i dunno man kinda seems like you're the one being a dumb dumb
No, I told you no such thing.
So the fact that you are thinking in these terms (rather than, for example, looking at net benefits and costs of each thing) shows that you are either exceptionally slow, or that like I said, you're struggling against probably years and years of having kept yourself in populist echo chambers and so you're literally unable to deal with the actual facts and science because you have been wrapped up in a cultish popular movement which has spun a pseudo-scientific narrative while telling itself that anyone who disagrees is anti-science.
Just like the faithful in any other religion or cult will surround themselves with unfalsifiable premises- if something doesnt work out the way god or the prophets predicted...well, see god just works in mysterious ways, doesn't he?
No, I told you no such thing.
i mean you kinda did. I said "hey we shouldn't let that happen" and then you went chimp on me. You think noses grow on trees? i'mma have to get a whole ass surgery to put that back on and it's gonna look stupid
" (rather than, for example, looking at net benefits and costs of each thing) "
pretty sure most of humanity suffering and dying, maybe leading to a war or series of em that ends the species is worse than saying bozo can't have a solid gold mansion and we should tax corps for their pollutin and maybe fund some other less gassy power sources. Not a mathmatician or anything but "everyone dies and/or suffers" is less ideal then "rich people and corperations sad, most everyone weathers the storm to come".
also you keep repeating science this and that, but you're not actually proving anything. you're unironically doin the npc science guy meme, which is usually just a strawman for people that believe in reality saying you should adher to reality lol
Lol. Are you still contorting yourself to avoid thinking about the facts and their implications?
i'm literally just asking you to stop being a bot and make an argument and then attempt to support it. If that's too hard just say so stop with the duck speak
The only person who is comming across as a bot is yourself, he made a pretty compelling argument with nuance and you just ignored it.
oh no they're closing in on me
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST AND HIS BOTS
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST AND HIS BOTS
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST AND HIS BOTS
seriously though, this guy's wiggin out and i'm just saying we shouldn't ruin the planet. He's attempting to convince me we should, but like without any logical arguments just insults and repeating phrases
You literally said socialism should be implemented globally which is one of the most idiotic things I have read on this sub.
You are doing the exact same thing that you are accussing him of, you are so consumed by your ideology that you can't see the good points they are making.
You literally said socialism should be implemented globally
no i didn't? Not here at the very least, it's not relevant to this point, i'm pushing for things that can happen not should.
You should read what i said before complaining about it
I rejoice at the imminent demise of Urb*nites in your imaginary scenario
people like u dilute the meaning of libertarian
Just because I am a libertarian doesn’t mean I think everything should be legal. Murder should be punished and sick people should be treated. Then the question is if you are treating transpeople by letting them transition or if that only makes things worse. Maybe the answer is to help them sort out whatever underlying problems they might have first, then help them be comfortable in their bodies. If all else fails then I guess they should be able to transition.
It’s just another form of tricking us into liking eugenics. They are getting really good at it, and pretty soon they’ll be paying people $1000 to get vasectomies. People will be lined up.
Imagine how weak your ego and soul must be to have your mental health damaged by a bird.
Yes?
People have mental trauma and getting reminded of it is bad. Vets have PTSD for example, are they weak?
Have you not suffered psychological trauma yourself, is that why you think its a problem to get sad when reminded of your own personal horror?
Vets have PTSD for example, are they weak?
Bit of a difference between seeing your best friend shredded by shrapnel versus a bird mindlessly - and not even maliciously - parroting a name you no longer go by.
Well then describe the difference in chemical composition between the two? Children are born with complete emotional range but emotion is calibrated through hardship. You can judge all you want about the relatively "worthiness" of trauma but I would argue that it always hurts.
I don't see the end result being that different. Either way I am arguing you are being cold to those who suffer psychological trauma.
Vets go to a therapist and learn to handle stimuli that bothers them. They don’t demand everyone around them to conform to their issues
Can you explain what you would have to do exactly to
conform to someone's issues
? Afaik you just have to call them the name they ask you to.
Yes, just calling them by their name is their one and only demand. Not at all demanding the whole society to pretend men can get pregnant, and pushing that ideology from the highest offices of the land
Not at all demanding the whole society to pretend men can get pregnant
isn't that saying that a woman can transition into presenting as a man but because she still has a uterus she can still get pregnant? I mean, some people been intersex since the dawn of time too, so while it sounds like a weird statement there are always exceptions and that's what its reminding us of.
and pushing that ideology from the highest offices of the land
not sure I understand what you mean. Isn't it part of the law in some cases?
isn’t that saying that a woman can transition into presenting as a man but because she still has a uterus she can still get pregnant? I mean, some people been intersex since the dawn of time too, so while it sounds like a weird statement there are always exceptions and that’s what its reminding us of.
A trans man can get pregnant yes. A man cannot
Intersex people are irrelevant. It’s an incredibly rare condition. Just because some humans are born with one foot we don’t go around saying humans aren’t bipedal
not sure I understand what you mean. Isn’t it part of the law in some cases?
In Canada it is part of the law. In US a fucking supreme court justice refuses to define the word “woman”. This nonsense is the outgrowth of trans ideology
A trans man can get pregnant yes. A man cannot
Exactly but the word "man" is in "man" and also in "trans man". That's the point, its not "trans women are women" but rather "trans women are also women". Trans women are not necessarily biologically women, nobody is contesting that.
Intersex people are irrelevant.
Sure but its still a way a "man" can get preggers
It’s an incredibly rare condition.
Trans people plenty rare too.
this nonsense is the outgrowth of trans ideology
Why are you pissed that people can now choose how they're treated by society? In the past they just used to hate and cut themselves and maybe kill themselves or in any case be kinda sad and shit about it.
Now they can choose, which in the case of people who were suffering is great and in the case of day trippers they can check it out and see if they like it. I'm not really sure I'm seeing your worst case scenario here. People aren't forced into it, it remains their prerogative.
trans women are also women
If trans women are women, then trans literally doesn’t mean anything, except it does. Women are adult human females. Trans women are males who transitioned.
Sure but its still a way a “man” can get preggers
Intersex people without testes can get pregnant, but a person without testes isn’t a man is it?
Trans people plenty rare too.
Never said they’re not, their ideology however, is widespread.
Why are you pissed that people can now choose how they’re treated by society?
Because they’re indoctrinating and transitioning children who don’t know any better
If trans women are women, then trans literally doesn’t mean anything, except it does. Women are adult human females. Trans women are males who transitioned.
Yes. But you will note that when you say "trans women" you say "women". That's the point. So when society does some shit for women they should make sure that's compatible with trans women too as they are also women. You get me?
but a person without testes isn’t a man is it?
Ye but a man without testes can be treated by society as a man. Like a man who loses his testes in a terrible angle grinder accident. How society treats people it considers "men" is the "man" part of what we are discussing here. So there's biological and social aspects to this topic. They call the biological part (the testes) "sex" and the social part (how our chap with no nads is treated) "gender". So you can be treated by society as a man but have an unknown quantity of nads (i.e. the sex is not necessarily relevant to the gender).
Because they’re indoctrinating and transitioning children who don’t know any better
I don't think anyone is forcing children to transition, I thought it was the case that puberty blockers were being made more available to some children to give them more time to make the decision if they're unsure.
"i can't believe they did legitimate medical procedures instead of taking my opinion on it, a guy who gets no bitches, stacks no paper and is barely able to think without crying from the strain"
I admire your optimism that humanity will still be around in a few hundred years
We made it for 50,000+ years, through an ice age with only stone tools, spread around the world, and even had a population go down to some scientists believe as low as a couple thousand at one point.
With our technology level, it’s going to take some real serious shit to make humans go extinct. Like “affect the entire planet nearly instantly and without warning” level of shit.
I think that it is precisely our technology which will destroy us.
Life in a pre-industrial society may have been tough but our impact on the environment was limited. Thus even if human population was in the thousands-- it would eventually bounce back.
But with the amount of pollution we are pumping into the environment-- there might be no bouncing back from that.
You’re completely ruling out that we have had a group of humans living in space for a couple decades using technology.
You’re ignoring the fact that we could easily engineer a way to grow plants anywhere “inside” (already do that with hydroponics).
You’re ignoring air conditioning.
You’re ignoring nuclear power.
Im not claiming a sizable number of humans will survive. But I think it’s completely feasible for some humans to figure it out.
And thats worst case scenario, unless something catastrophic, instant, and unpredictable happens that doesn’t give a single group time to prepare something.
God, I love memes sometimes. They are so creatively beautiful.
I laughed way too hard at this..
I did not expect to laugh put loud to this. Love this subreddit
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African greys have a N word pass.
Does that mean they can also quote FBI crimes statistics as well?
Not even the FBI can do that.
Man what a fuckin soft cock.
Bro no way a bird that has the intellectual capacity to only repeat certain keyphrases and repetitive behaviors has the ability to hurt your mental capacity.
No way you can claim to be strong but words hurt
HAHAHA MOST BASED BIRD ON EARTH
Animal dont care how you identify, they only care about sex and sex
Sorry
Never apologize for making a hilarious joke… never.
He should apologize for making my ears bleed
Ear bleeding is temporary, gigacharrot is eternal
Never apologize for being right
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Both
Do not apologize for the funny
Do not apologize this shit made my day.
how awful the comments are ain't your fault.
I'm all for trans rights, but that is a snowflake
Based and Polly pilled
"I may be a Parrot, but I am no Fa$%$%" - The Parrot
Imagine being bullied by a fucking bird lol
had to look up deadnaming
It’s like all they do is come up with labels and terms, they almost make us look non-spectrum.
Imagine being that unstable a fucking parrot damages your mental health
I'm Trans and I give this the stamp of approval. This is fine mods. Don't remove this please
I hope you are having a nice life and that people are nice to you, I have no issue with trans persons as individuals, I just can not deal with the corporatizaton, commercialization, campusification, collectivization, and politicization of your personal journey. I don’t how you feel, and I don’t know your opinion of the big LGBTQ umbrella-politics circus, but if you just want to be who you are, I root for you.
That being said, I don’t want teenagers being given surgeries that result in cloacas, I don’t want drag queens in libraries, and I’m extremely opposed to Pride Parades.
But I wish you all the best as a human being, and I hope the world is kind to you.
I think most people hate how political LGBT issues have become, but most tend to blame the "other side" for that, imo mostly thanks to the media bringing it into the political culture war.
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Based
If I were trans, I'd be annoyed when Redditors like this end up representing me.
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I hope you have a great day and a wonderful parrot that does not cause you any discomfort.
gender ideology incompatible with nature itselff
heh
I can see why this is shattering for a trans person tbh
It shows that people calling you by your preferred name is just them being nice, but deep down, our animal brains still see you as who we knew you as.
I don't know if living in a bubble is something you can hope to maintain forever.
Yeah no I can see that.
Counterpoint: It's a fucking bird.
It doesn't "see you as who we knew you as", it's repeating a mouth-sound it heard often when you were around.
Because it's a fucking bird.
It shows the parrot wasn't trained on the new name.
The parrot doesn't instinctively know your name.
If they weren't trans and just changed their name to another of the same gender the problem would be there anyway.
RIP that bird’s Twitter account.
The bird isn’t even a Chad. He’s just following orders.
Just going to go on a limb to say that parrots probably aren’t the source of mental damage.
I'm no longer surprised by how feeble these people are, an unexpected song on the radio could drive them to sudoku.
Reminds me of that old Family Guy episode where Joe gets himself a parrot and Peter teaches it to say "cripple".
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I am friends with this person
Until you do something she doesn't like, anyway.
welp as someone who's gonna be in the market for an engineering job soon this totally does not concern me at all
Him/his.
but she's so mentally ill I don't blame her for this.
So is he actually a "woman"? or just mentally ill?
Just M-F? Are they just a normal functioning person on the weekends?
Good bot
And fuck you.
See. Its all about power. Its not about expressing one's self, its about controlling others and bending them to your will. These transwomen still have the assertive personality traits associated with men.
...or at least its like this sometimes. There are genuine people out there. But the problem is that we are discouraged from trying to decern whom has malicious intent.
Based and Natural-orderpilled
Based parrot?
The Weakest Generation
This post has to win the contest. lmao
parrot be sent to a concentration camp bro
Better to die based than live long enough to see yourself become cringe
Parrots being gigachads and humans being soys getting PTSD from deadnaming.
Imagine being so fragile that a bird calling you the wrong name hurts you.
Change your flair cunt
No sir, I am all for them asking to be called a different pronoun or name and I will even do so when requested of me, but I will definitely call you weak if a bird calling you by your former name is harming your mental health.
If you can't cope with an animal failing to recognize your name change I don't know how to help you. Bird are smart for sure, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect them to understand that you changed your name, so any rational and reasonable person should be able to understand this and not be upset when the bird keeps calling them by their old name.
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How about you change your flair C U N T
Least gatekeeping lib centre
Change yours bootlicker
the parrot is just like me frl
Most mentally stable LibLeft
Wtf is a deadname?
the name a trans person used to go by
"Bring me a cracker jonathan"
Based and Bird Brained Pilled
My favorite meme.
You're laughing. The kid's mental health is damaged and you're laughing.
Based and parrot pilled
No one ever asked the bird if the name change damaged its mental health now did they? Shame on them. #AllAnimalsMatter /s
Parrots are Made by god to insult someone's pride
Parrots know the exact words to hit you where it hurts. but you can't get mad at them because most of your family AND friends Will say you are overreacting and that you're getting angry because of a bird who doesn't know what the words he says even mean to you
But he knows
AND he'll keep repeating it untill the day you realize that maybe the wrong Is in your ego so big, that it can be blown up by a bird who only repeats the words he was once told, (suposedly) without thinking what they mean.
So an actual solution is to ignore the bird or put it in time out and teach it the new word.
Based Parrot? More like Best Parrot!
That is fucking hilarious
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I love birds now.
Someone tell this guy that his brother's mental health has left the building a while ago
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I appreciate you using an African gray
I always suspected that many birds were smarter than the average sociology student.
Unflaired and dinosaur apologist?
Reminder that despite what big dino tells you, mammals didn't steal shit from the bird brains, the proto-mammals were the first to rise during the Permian, dominating the world and with many species similar to modern mammals. Then when "for some reason" 99% of life died the Dinos took over and wasted MILLIONS OF YEARS doing fuck all until that blessed meteor cleansed the world of most of your filth. Also the Emu war is pure propaganda.
How are you this based and green flair?
IMPOSSIBLE
Even a commie is more based than one with no flair
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tbh im a trans man and I'd find that hilarious
Based. You don't let a fucking parrot hurt your mental health.
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Based.
You can’t handle the truth- the bird probably.
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Flying beast based
I thought having bipolar disorder was bad. You know going from feeling good to feeling nothing but dread and wanting to blow my brains out just randomly without cause, which can in turn last days, weeks or months; or going hypomanic and ruining relationships with people and doing a bunch of dangerous stupid shit was difficult.
But after seeing this I realized that I should just suck it up and shut the fuck up. My mental health has nothing on this poor bastard. Couldn’t imagine how much a bird saying your old name could just tear you apart and ruin your life. Man, I wish I could understand
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Bruh if a bird hurts your feelings you may just be an unalterably broken individual. Shame those insane asylums all got closed.
Da fucks a dead name
A name someone doesn't use/goes by anymore
Thank you for informing me
What's a deadname?
Squak cope and seethe squak
Wtf is a “deadname”? I don’t have my glasses and I thought it said “dread name” like he was a pirate…
Dont feel so bad. Until I started reading the comments, I thought the fuckin parrott wouldn't stop saying the name of someone who recently died.
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Sorry. I came from a cross post. I'll show myself out 😆
You can't change your name!
-Parrots
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What the fuck is a dead name
I think it refers to the name of a démon during the summoning ritual
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Dude that was fucking dark lmfao.
But I laughed so you're getting an upvote.
.... Also probably stealing this joke
Cataclysmic joke!
Based and I like dark humor but holy fuck pilled
It's the name of a trans person before they transitioned.
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I didn't even consider that they change their name when they transition
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Parrot: I answer only to Frank. It is Francine who is dead to me.
You could kill the parrot?
This is why ordinary people can’t take these types seriously.
”Our life is a struggle, we are oppressed. I have PTSD because a parrot said my name.”
Can I get this without the funny colors?
Based Parrot and who's a good bird? pilled
I can't believe I still have to listen to BMTH against my will 12 years later.
tf is deadname
Humanity deserves extinction
the chad move is to eat it
Wait is that post real?
Holy shit is it real?
See here as auth-right demonstrates they have the same understanding of pronouns as a parrot
Or demonstrates that libleft is so weak that they got bullied by a bird that can only repeat what you say to it
Or the left demonstrating that a bird is smarter than them
based lol
Someone spent time making this. To make fun of trans people.
I do feel like it's all a bit soft, but it's just mostly sad that someone felt the need to create this.
You're on the wrong sub then fren
So this is a place for losers?
yes reddit is a place for losers.
Oh man, I feel bad that dude is only learning this now.
Your face is a place for dicks. Got eeem
you could literally make this in like 45 seconds using power point
What is acceptable transjoke? I truly want to know, it seems like everytime I hear any joke involving someone transgender, it is immediately labelled transphobic.
Because they cut off their sense of humor as well.
Gaddamn
God forbid anyone gets made fun of. How will they ever recover? They probably never will. To think that's all that it took.
God forbid anyone gets made fun of.
Dave Chappelle show canceled by venue hours before performance
I think it's more about the fact that this sub is obsessed with trans people.
Make fun. Make jokes. Do it funny.
But where are the other jokes? PCM has become one note.
Society is obsessed with trans people because people in power are pushing the issue to keep the public divided. We are but a reflection of society, albeit with higher levels of autism and mental retardation.
The post just shows that they NEED TO BE made fun of. This specific cant even hand a bird... what they gonna do if they enter real world. Is she gonna crumble ghe moment someone says smthng like: why is your chin so sharp for a "woman" or why do you have an addams apple
I hate being made fun of. But I realize that's most of the time, a 'me' problem, and I should grow as a person to love and accept my differences regardless of what others think about me. I think alot of people going through similar or worse mental health issues lack that awareness.
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Fried parrot chicken gonna taste good
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I have no idea why this is so funny to me. This made my night!
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Get the parrot on Timcast IRL
Tim and the parrot would get caught in an infinite loop!
Deadname?? I am not following?
Based birb
u/savevideo
The fuck's a deadname?
Based.
I'm glad this family didn't try to isolate the parrot or something of the sort: it is adopted and has probably been through enough horrors.
Get a flair to make sure other people don't harass you :)
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Imagine being so selfish that you throw away what others have done for you
I LOLd really hard, gj
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Nature is never wrong
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I swear libleft is criminally stupid. Jesus Christ
Based parrot
i thought the brother died 💀💀🪚🪚
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This is easily the best post on this subreddit I’ve ever seen it can’t get better
Don’t let the hairless upright dogs tell you what to say
Shrigma Beakset rule # 420
The positive is that the parrot can be in public unlike other auth-right parrots
Based
Imagine having your mental health hurt by a fucking bird! If this person wants to be a man so bad then they better man the fuck up
The parrot is the one who has his brother's mental health breaking down... or it was broken before??? Just asking...
When you can’t fool animals or small children, maybe it’s time to admit that you are living a lie.
I really want to see the original thread.
Dude, i am fucking DYING. This was HILARIOUS!
That parrot is based AF.
Bird is based
I just wanna say this ITS A FUCKING BIRD
Based and parrot posting pilled.
Lmao what
u/savevideo
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The Bird Reich is coming.
K1ll your parrot 🦜
Lot of extremely blatant transphobia here
Cancel the bird!
One joke
Wrong sub
You make me angry every time I don't see your flair >:(
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For people making fun of caring about what a bird says here's a hypothetical:
Imagine you had a wife called Alice who died in some tragic way and your pet parrot says shit like "Fuck Alice, the bitch deserved it".
I'd find that hilarious.
Imagine you had a wife called Alice who died in some tragic way and your pet parrot says shit like "Fuck Alice, the bitch deserved it".
How the hell are those even remotely equivalent? How? What the fuck is wrong with your head that an animal performing a trick it learned is now equivalent to someone personally insulting you?? This is why people will continue to mock these dumbass complaints, how the hell is this at all supposed to be taken seriously when you talk in such hyperbole? Christ, I'm glad I don't actually know people like you in real life, can't imagine what a goddamn nightmare you must be. You get like a simple papercut and probably go around for a month saying you were attacked by a machete.
an animal performing a trick it learned is now equivalent to someone personally insulting you??
It's still an animal performing a trick it learned. That's the point.
People are going "imagine feeling insulted by what a bird says" when there's a scenario where they would feel insulted by what a bird says.
Your comment proves my point perfectly. You got completely triggered by a hypothetical bird.
The bird doesn't even exist.
That's not the same at all. Why would that be a learned and repeated phrase of the parrot?
It's hilarious that this person is feeling bullied by a transphobic parrot like if it understands what's going on.
Why would that be a learned and repeated phrase of the parrot?
Could be an inside joke from before the death.
It's hilarious that this person is feeling bullied by a transphobic parrot like if it understands what's going on.
The parrot understanding what it's saying doesn't really matter at all.
The same way it doesn't matter that fireworks aren't gonna hurt veterans, because their PTSD doesn't care.
It's a fucking parrot.
I just woke my wife up laughing and have literally no way to explain this to her. She doesn't even know what PCM is.
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Ohwa-a-a-ah
PCM user with a wife?!
Instant ban for misinformation
We got together before I joined PCM, then I knocked her up and made her financially dependent so she couldn't leave!
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That’s the dream
I do this all the time with 4chan green texts
Fake (you do this all the time)
Gay (you don't have a wife)
10/10 meme
based and you would not get it pilled
Meanwhile my wife ;
'When did PC MasterRace get so edgy?!'
"All I ever hear about is RGB, where the fuck did yellow come from?!"
Auth centre has a wife !!!1!!1111!!1!!1!11!111!1!1!1!1!
I I though y’all had femboys
TWAW dude I chill! Being a woman is just like... a vibe.