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"Why does 90% of the screen time belong to the top 1% of penises?" - Bernie Sanders

I am once again asking for your unsolicited dick-pics

/S please don't send me dick-pics.

Wouldn't that make them solicited pics then?

He wants the ones he didn’t ask for. If you’re seeing this, don’t send

I guess we'll find out once he finishes preparing his impromptu remarks.

Please, update us if you got any. Tempted to share…

I'm sending you Nixon pics

Tricky Dick pics

Too late

You did it. You crazy son of a bitch, you did it.

"I am once again asking for your penis."

I read that in his voice, and he seemed absolutely sincere.

I think this can finally get him broad support across the states.

You deserve more upvotes than you’ve got šŸ˜‚

ā€œIt’s quite simple actually. It has to do with this concept known as the Pareto Principle and it represents every aspect of bloody life!ā€ - Jordan Peterson

I personally advocate for average and even small dick porn.

Ladies, now you can tell your man he's got a "mean dick" and still technically be true!

Don't forget about all those median and modal dicks out there

Guy with a modal dick: "There are many like it, but this one is mine."

"Statistically speaking, this dick is strikingly similar to 66.9% of all other dicks you may have surveyed."

2.1% more would have been nice.

I’m more of an extra 2.79% kinda guy

Ah I've found my new tinder bio.

Three places of accuracy would imply 1000 dicks were surveyed??

There are many like it

My penis is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.

Without my dick I am nothing

At least it's not bimodal

A modal auxiliary dick, is there such a creature?

Bravo. Fucking bravo.

Girls tell me I have acute penis. It's tiny, unpleasant, and bent 45 degrees.

The real money is in the bimodal dicks.

Idk about you but my head is shaped like a bell curve, so you could say I’m in range. Hopefully 1 standaed deviation to the right.

but there was ever only one moby dick...

It's within one Standard Deviation, baby!

And yet Little Dick will still be used as an insult, while it's social media suicide to make fun of a Fat chick.

Real mean

Hard mode

My ā€˜Data’ is beautiful. Indeed. I’m above average in so many ways! Lmfao.

"Want to watch me do a median strip?"

As in, when I get hard it becomes the mode value.

You’re about to give me a morbasm

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Top of the bell-end curve mean!

What about shaped like the bell curve?

That’s just my priapism

I've got Mode dick.

This is hilarious

Where's the complex mean at?

"Your dick is at the very top of the bell curve"

*bell end curve

The Curve doesn't define me

where the bell end the dick begin.

I'm actually surprised to find out I have a porn star mean. Those guys always seem like they're all 9" or more.

Maybe I need to start viewing my dick through a camera lens.

And yeah, I'm bragging. This is fucking awesome.

Keep your mean pornstar penis out of this.

Never speak to me or my mean porn star penis ever again.

Activate porn star penis mode

Instructions unclear, dick stuck in mean-machine

Camera adds ten pounds. They don’t specify where it’s added.

Depends on what measurement technique you're using. Remember to start at the back of your head, and go from there to the tip.

Welcome to the club! A few things you should know:

you need to look up proper measurement technique to get an accurate measurement (standing, bone pressed, hard ruler on top).

You need to be comfortable and prepared to use a cock ring when having sex (look it up in r/askmen), to keep from hurting your partner. Even if you’re not hammering on their cervix, you may be causing them pain or discomfort, and you can be a better man than that. Unfortunately, many women won’t tell you that it’s an issue unless you specifically ask (I only found out after 10+ years of marriage).

Be proud, but not a dick (pun intended) about it. I assume you have more to offer than a long-john, so don’t let it become who you are.

Best of luck with your new found bragging rights!

Well, it's not like I've just found out how big I am. I just assumed porn guys were bigger. They certainly look a lot bigger.

And I've been at this a while. Been with the same woman 15 years now. Must be why she sticks around!

Good clarification. I read your post as if it was some newfound power!

I’ll leave my comments up for any who have just found out they’re more blessed than they knew.

Hell yeah bro. We are the 1%. We gotta start a club or something.

There already are. Google "1% MC" and you'll find patches for the 1% mean cocks. And some motorcycle stuff that you can safely ignore, since you don't need to compensate for a small dick.

get something that's 9 inches long. Pretend it's a penis and see how far up your belly it goes. It's nearly all the way to the navel.

If they can't prod themself in the bellybutton, they aren't 9 inches.

I mean, I'm 6'2" and 7" and I can get well past my belly button so your logic doesn't really track.

Then you can argue about mean vs average.

I thought my lady said it was meaty.

I didn't hear her.

...median

Was this whole fucking thing just a set up for that fucking joke? Take your upvote and get the fuck outta here.

I'm such a little deviant

Mine tells me I'm a standard deviant

I prefer to be told I have a median dick

Got told by a ten that I had a decent dick. Must have been because I banged her for about a month and a half. Like actual 10. I pull that out of the old memory banks when I need to feel good. Lol.

That one guy on Reddit had a bi-modal dick

You are the very top of the bell curve!

https://youtu.be/133UlXRYIeg

The truth will set you free

Mean dick energy!

Underrated comment

she already says that. Well, I think the actual title was "cruel joke" but same thing

And yet it's men who are into all the "hard" sex and rape fetishes and BDSM.

Just take a look at any of the sex subreddits.

It's not men.

Outlier dick would be rad, though.

I spent way too long trying to figure out why ā€œmean porn star penisā€ was a category they chose for the study.

You can also tell them they have an outlier dick and not have to break it to them that they're on the near end of the bell curve.

Would be interesting to see a similar chart for girth. It gets brought up without fail any time length "um actually" discussions pop up as a sort of "what really matters is...", but I don't think I've ever seen a visualization of different girth ranges by population made before.

I'd be curious to know what the True Average Penisā„¢ would look like, across all aspects.

This great webpage was mentioned elsewhere in this thread, check it out!

It seems that i'm in the top 5% on all measures.. i know i'm not bad in size but seems too good on that site.

That's because the range is incredibly close. You go from larger than 30% of men to larger than 80% in like .3 inches

If you choose western average instead of world average, you will see that it already drops a bit. And then notice how little the difference in length actually is from top 50% to top 5%.

Another factor clearly shown in studies and explained on the page is that self reported data overestimates the size. I’m not saying you are cheating, but maybe we tend to push a bit harder for that pressed pubic bone measurement than a doctor would have? Or make an honest mistake? Or, you know, someone has to be in the top 5%, maybe it’s simply true…

Ok making it Western actually cut out a lot, much more reasonable with what i've seen around. I don't know if I have overestimated it subconscously, but I was extremely fixated on doing it without pressing at all, so I took measure from the skin and took multiple measures. I was quite in shape back then so now i should now consider that bit of Extra fat i gained.

Btw, porn it's still incredibly good at making insecurities worse for everyone, especially in something out of our control like genitals.

Yeah girth is what matters. I once had a guy with girth and length. Painful. I sometimes see him and his wife on instagram... can't help but just think... she fuckin TAKES IT.

they dont call me "tuna can" for nothin.

What would be even more interesting would be if OP cited sources lol?

I feel like big penises are like a Ferrari. Just because you have one doesn't mean you are winning any races, especially if the person you're teaching really knows how to use their civic

/r/realitydick for ā€œaverageā€ sized peni

I think it would still be skewed to the larger sized.

My reasoning is larger guys being more confident to get their gear out online.

I don’t think it’s skewed. From my perspective there aren’t any big dicks on there. All statistically average.

It’s a place for average guys to feel average. Pretty healthy actually.

Penes, not peni/penii. Or just penises.

-is doesn't turn into -i, -us does.

Maybe I'm telling on myself, but yayy! I finally feel normal

Would be much harder to get proper estimations because most people have an idea of measurements in length but it's less common to know what circumference looks like.

But did they measure from the balls or the pubic bone?

Pubic bone, I believe. Most modern studies do bone-pressed pubic bone measurements. Basically, you measure from the top of your penis with the ruler pressed comfortably (don't push it so hard you feel pain or discomfort) into the fat pad directly above your penis. The pushing into the fat pad is because depending on your body fat % and distribution that fat pad can be larger or smaller so pressing into it until you touch the pubic bone is your "real" penis size, as someone who is very overweight could easily be losing 0.5-1 inch of "effective" penis size.

Go on...go on!!!

I have done way too much research on this shit so I could if I wanted to... but out of respect for myself I don't think I should.

Excuse me mr. penis-measurement-expert, how are curves taken into account?

Use one of those measuring tapes used by tailors since it's very flexible.

just be sure to wash it when you're done

Or to do it when you get out of the shower.

Be careful of the metal tip!

Way too late dude....way too late

The comment a bit lower gave a link to that answer (https://calcsd.info/measuring.html). TLDR is you measure standing, bone pressed, extended, and parallel to the ground. The zero point (beginning of the ruler) must be visible and using a hard ruler.

Heh, hard ruler šŸ“

Need new data for arc length.

They use gorilla glue to straighten it out against the ruler

You need penis braces to straighten it, then measure.

I'm a little dissappointed, granted happy for you, that you have that much respect for yourself.

Not being ashamed to admit, the additional Wiener was and is a major motivator on my weight loss jorney.

It's real! I lost a significant amount of weight and one day looked down to see..bonus dick size!

I'm in the opposite camp. Bonus dick size has been overtaken by belly.

When going the extra mile directly translates to going the extra inch

"Out of respect for myself I don't think I should", lol.

If only I had that kind of introspective capability...

I’ll tell you what my father once told me, ā€œMeasure it however you want, but when she says ā€˜deeper’ that extra inch won’t be there.ā€

Happy cack day!

I don’t think they ever actually say that.

They’re talking about consensual sex

If you did keep going, you would earn our respect.

I'm not sure earning Redditors respect is a good thing.

Why not some of us show people that are respected their asshole!

Is there an asshole size chart too?

We'd even make it rain fake Internet points

I grant you the honorary degree of Master of Penis

Now what kind of research can you present regarding Beluga's? (And their fat jelly rolls)

On the other hand… you were born for this moment.

https://calcsd.info/measuring.html

I'm almost there

Almost there!

We can't go any further. It's already tight against the public bone.

as someone who is very overweight could easily be losing 0.5-1 inch of "effective" penis size.

This was easily the most pleasant surprise of losing weight. As you gain the weight you don't really notice it getting smaller or covered up. But when the fat is gone, you can suddenly notice the change with the rest of your body. I lost a touch over 50 pounds and gained back over half an inch on my dick.

Dick gains

"name a weight loss comparison picture I don't want to see"

Hm, well I'm this new diet called dick gainz so before and after here ya go

Dick gains are super real and super awesome

Never skip dick day

Great band/singer name

And in tremendous fashion, a deep and lumbering sound was heard as hundreds of fat redditors clambered to work out.

The NHS should use this in a new campaign to tackle obesity.

I told the story to my friend and apparently it's his main motivation for losing weight now. He's down like 30 pounds and already grinning about the dick gains

ā€œSmall pp? Lose weight!ā€

If 50 lbs gets you .5", then me, at 190 pounds need to lose \~400 pounds. Got it!

Yup same. Lost around 30 and was like holy crap

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Dude that chick fucked you. 6 is above average, I’d call 7 big. Hell I’m a hair over 6 from the pelvic bone and my wife complains sometimes. It’s all about your partner too.

I know, she was punching below the belt during an argument. Like I said tho, when I lost weight it was the first time I felt at ease with it. I grew up thinking it was tiny, and now that I’m overweight again (and quite tall) proportionally it looks like small.

As I got older, despite having a normal bmi and not having gained more than 5 pounds, I had a little extra fat around my mid section and pubic region. I didn't lose weight but instead just cut body fat and put on a little muscle. Pretty much all the fat loss was from that mid section. I don't notice much difference in the rest of my body but my waist is back, my pants fit again, and I got that quarter inch back.

Even now if I slack off on my workouts or eat too much after a few days I can feel that belly fat trying to creep back in and steal my junk. I'm pretty slim overall but once I hit 40 everything goes straight to my stomach.

Yeah the number isn't the important part so much as the body fat %. Losing weight is just easier to explain (and do) than a body recomp.

...i think thats the most enticing reason for me to lose some weight. Well aside from more fitting clothes, health reasons etc...

I told the story to my friend and apparently it's his main motivation for losing weight now. He's down like 30 pounds and already grinning about the dick gains.

Getting a gym subscription as we speak

Never skip dick day.

Not having to push again after contact to get thay last bit involved, is a huge QoL benefit of weight loss

Rhythm is so much easier, and angling is so much easier

Losing weight is one of the best improvements to sex life, other than communication with your partner. Not only is more of the penis exposed and playable, the increases to strength, stamina, and flexibility really open up so many more possibilities.

Big dick energy

This comes up semi-frequently (once a month?) in r/loseit. Not one of the better known things about losing weight, but seems to be a perennial favourite of those who discover it.

there is an old joke. where a fat guy’s belly is referred to as dick do. as in your belly sticks out more than your dick do.

I've been waiting to be inspired by someone. The wait is over.

I went from 320 to 160 and boy lemme tell you that was a treat

So much this. As a 6'1" guy who weighed 325 pre-surgery (Gastric Sleeve) I've noticed that I got about 1" (if not 1.5") back of "effective" / "usable" length back after losing 95 lbs.

My wife agrees with this assessment.

Ditto - why isn’t this on any of the Men’s health marketing material.

Lose weight - it’ll make your dick bigger.

did the sex get better?

It definitely did. But it has less to do with that extra bit of length than with the rest of the benefits. I'm stronger and more flexible so more positions are possible. My stamina is better so I can be more active for longer. My confidence is improved so I'm not battling with self doubt during sex. That extra length is basically the cherry on top when it actually comes to sex.

Length is more for show eh?

Basically. I'm sure she gets a little more out of it too but I've never been too small or too large to the point that the extra bit of length really adds much more to my experience.

half inch? Try nearly 1 inch.

You don’t notice it getting smaller because you can’t see it anymore

But did you remember to divide by the Yaw?

I've read that it's 2.5cm (1") for every 32kg (70 lbs) you lose.

I would not be surprised by that in the slightest. Another reason to maintain a relatively body composition!

Wait, I never pushed it into the "fat pad". I might finally reach an even number!

Well at least my length makes up for my height, not that it matters

I read this in McMurry’s voice

Is this erect or flaccid?

Erect, I've found measuring flaccid is sort of pointless and tedious. Penis size is already overblown in importance, I doubt to an even greater extent that flaccid penis size will matter to anyone.

someone who is very overweight could easily be losing 0.5-1 inch of "effective" penis size.

This would be exceptionally unfortunately for someone with a micropenis. Go from having very little to begin with to it being completely absorbed by the added fat.

...I have to go make a call

Time to lose some of this extra padding...

How many dick measuring contests you been to?

The term fat pad is throwing me off

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Those would use a fabric/soft plastic measuring tape.

There was a famous scientist named Ken Unbach who approached that problem with his own method of "flattening the curve". Straight linear measuring instruments like rulers of course do not handle strongly curved items to be measured, so the only thing left is straightening out the item as best you can. Once he showed everyone in the lab his methods and findings, the method was clear, to get good measurements, you had to unbend it like Unbach, Ken.

Well I guess if you have a curved member there's literally no way, on planet earth, under any method, to obtain a measurement... Damn!

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Are you really that mad that your dick is super curved? Relax, buddy, I’m sure your partners enjoy it.

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Lol I’m not reading all that. Stop taking the internet so serious, maybe log off for a bit bud. Be more secure šŸ’Ŗ

You've written three - THREE entire paragraphs on how either I'm the shittiest person in the world for being snarky for a one liner on reddit or this other dude. Go and read your 2nd paragraph of your reply to me, then read your original comment again lmao touch grass dude and I mean that in the nicest way - seriously unhealthy to get this pissed over half-assed snark.. You're gonna be in full meltdown if someone takes a real shot at you and you don't go outside and breathe and get some fresh air first..

Get creative, floppy ruler duh

In that case in the studies they say to "gently" straighten it without causing pain, if that isn't possible for strongly curved then you use a fabric ruler or flexible measuring tape like a tailor would use.

EDIT: Clarity

flexible tape

Tape the penis until it is perfectly straight, got it.

Oops, lmao. Edited, I meant a flexible measuring tape or a tailor's "ruler" (whatever they're called, the flexible measuring tools made of fabric or paper).

Lol learned this the hard way. Hit peak covid + depression weight and lost noticeable length, for whatever reason my body really liked to store fat on the pad.

On the upside im very satisfied with my pubic bone to tip measurement.

Got that thicc fupa

Measuring from the top? Ah god, they're doing it all wrong

Makes sense. I mean the real idea is to see how far it’s going in…

We need to a volume measurement for true size, will cover girth as well.

Stick your dick in a full graduated cylinder and measure the displacement

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Yup, I'm quite lean (sub 15% body fat, probably around 13%) and I still get like a quarter to a third of an inch from it.

The pushing into the fat pad is because depending on your body fat % and distribution that fat pad can be larger or smaller

Hey, hey! I'm sitting right here you know.

Rrrrrr I mean uhh huh whew, no, it doesn't hurt keep pressing down

So you're telling me the secret to gaining a couple of inches is to lose weight and not all those gimmicks I've been buying?

Sadly yes lmao. Penis pumps... might work? The research is shoddy. If you do want to get more "effective" penis size weight loss is definitely the most effective and proven way to go about it, but if you're really desperate there is some chance that penis pumps might work.

I still am not sure if this is a quote from southpark or not

Well, the real adjusted penis size takes into account both the girth and the yaw of the penis.

So you’re telling me I haven’t reached my true potential?

Sounds like a great ad for weight watchers

Well of course they did... Never leave out the emergency inch.

I've lost somewhere between 0.25 - 0.5 inches by gaining 50 pounds, so yeah, 100%

above? i thought it was next to the side.

Damn that makes me 14!

What's inside is what really counts. \~John Holmes

I've always measured from my asshole forward.

According to Adam Carolla, the official measurement is from the center of the anus to just past the tip.

But erect or flaccid?

At least. More like almost 2.

So you tell me that if my fat ass lost some weight my penis would be bigger?

I got kicked out the gym when I asked my trainer if they had any workouts that target the fat above my dick.

Ignorance is bliss when you livin butt to tip

This is a valid approach if you're able to go butt deep.

One of my favorite YouTubers

Incredible. Thank you for sharing.

This is the internet I know and love.

Finally a benefit to being a man with a badonkadonk. Now I can say I have a 14 inch penis.

But I still pain and stuff?

Lmfao this was the funniest thing I’ve seen on Reddit for some time.

"see what happened here is you got greedy"

Holy šŸ˜­šŸ’€

"Potential Thrust Vector".

Fucking hell that was so good.

You guys are all base to tip sheep.

FIVE POINT ONE FIVE INCHES!

So you’re fucking with what’s basically a Twinkie?

He’s essentially giving her a three quarters rollo

Open the phone lines!

McMurray, get the fuck out of the way with that pheasant cock you fucking novice. I would hand over one of my kids just to….

It's a god damn ambush

Holy shit look at you shooting high stakes snooker with a number two pencil.

Came here for a McMurray comment. Made my day. šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼

Exactly, I scrolled down waiting for it.

a criminal embellishment

I thought the standard method was from the butthole to the tip. The little catch piece at the end of the tape measure fits nicely back there

don't forget to go twice around the balls

And that catch piece is supposed to be loose so you get an accurate measurement whether you measure from the front or back of your butthole.

That’s a tight butt hole

damn by this standard id be a 9

Measure twice, cut once.

hopefully theyre using the TMI Formula

"You are not exposed to measure from your pubic bone to the tip of your penis on the top side. You are, in fact, exposed to measure from your balls to the tip of your penis on the underside. This, the correct mode of measurement, gives me 1 additional inch and, by clinical definition, a 100% average-sized penis at 5.15 inches!"

That scene is probably a top 5 scene ever for how hard it made me laugh.

I loved it, I was dying. I saw the show in passing because my husband would watch it and I'd walk though the room and watch a scene or two, so I thought I'd hate McMurry, given that he's a piece of shit. And then when I actually sat down and binge watched it, I mean.. he's a piece of shit but he's surprisingly wholesome too.

Such a good show, but a bad character there and the comedy is top notch.

McMurry’s a piece of shit.

"why would I say McMurray's is a piece of shits?... Alright, McMurray's is a piece of shits."

Where is it from?

Letterkenney. It’s an originally Canadian comedy that’s now produced by Hulu and is available in the US. The first season is kinda rough imo but it gets much better after that!

I think the first season is still pretty good overall - good to skip over Fartbook episode and do your best to ignore Stewart's original sidekick, but it's still a fantastic watch if you can get over those two parts. (And the actor did a good job, just.. not the best bit and I'm glad that character went out.)

Fartbook as an episode is FUCKING EMBARRASSING!! But yeah I love the show, it’s almost enough to get me to forget about my dead wife Barb

IMO the whole Stewart and gang portion of the show is cringy but I'm told that's the funny part, just not my flavor. The rest of the show is pure gold though.

I love Stewart, the way he talks and his interactions with Roald are pure gold to me. It's definitely extra and season one is harder to watch there. But the running gag about his package is amazing too, "Stewart's Horn" is one of the clips I always show my friends when I talk about the show.

There’s such a thing as too much horn talk and a fella should know about it

Also the Shoresy spin-off is FANTASTIC

It's a completely different show and I fucking love it. I was really afraid that it would just be 6 30-minute episodes of him chirping when in all actuality, they culled that, gave him a few throwback lines and about 5 minutes total of him chirping some kids. The rest is very original.

What's also really cool about that show is how Jared Keeso plays Shoresy. It's like him and Wayne are played by 2 different actors. Wayne looks like he would wipe the floor with Shoresy. All tall with good posture and built like a brick shit house. Shoresy looks average, carries himself sort of slumped down and even looks shorter. Keeso is a great actor the way he has completely separated the characters both physically and vocal. I also appreciate he doesn't talk as high pitched as he does in Letterkenny.

You're right, keeso does a phenomenal job differentiating the two. Aside from his face, I'd think they were different actors.

Haven’t gotten to that quiet yet!

...before it gets boring and soap opera-y. But when it's good it's great!

Does it actually say exposed to instead of suppose to or did OP just fuck it up a few times?

I just assume he typed it that day due to the way the character speaks. He talks like he's almost trying to keep his upper and lower teeth touching at all times. Kind of hard to explain. Just youtube "McMurray from letterkenny" and no I'm not talking about the smoke that is Bonnie.

In the quote, the character means "supposed," but it's not what he says. Intentional typing. :)

I couldn't find a clip with the quote in question, but here's some season 1 highlights with the guy to get an idea. White shirt. https://youtu.be/-aP9v_AIGxc

McMurray's a piece of shit

Ya, but Bonnie Mc^Murr^ary

Figure you oughta let the grass grow a little bit there?

You know? Let the paint dry a bit, eh?

This. This is exactly what I thought when I started reading this post.

So you’re basically fucking with a Snickers bar…

I'm in the middle of binging Letterkenny for the first time, and I haven't seen whatever episode this is from, yet. But reading your post I immediately recognized the cadence and knew it must be from the show. Lmao.

I measure from the back of my ass to the tip of the foreskin

I get the most accurate measurement when measuring from the lower back region

McMurray has entered the chat

So important!
From the balls I get another 1/2 inch to inch

she don't tho

Dude you put the balls in, everyone knows that.

Not important at all. A constant shift still leaves you in the same percentile

Well if everyone else is judged with tthe constant shift but you aren’t, it’s not a fair comparison. The standard measurement is need-to-know.

"From the balls" doesn't mean from the lower point of the sack, but from the point the shaft begins from the balls. So it'd be a smaller measurement than from the pubic bone.

pubic bone but you aren't allowed to flatten out your curved dick.

Hope they measured butt to tip

I measure from my arsehole and it still doesn’t help.

I think you mean how they got the YAW to get the adjusted length aka TMI

You dont measure ass to tip?

From the asshole

I measure mine from the butthole and it's still below average

Gotta measure from the bottom. Nothin but… hurt feelings up top

I thought you started at the ass hole. I'm going to have to verify my 5 inches

Depends if you're a top or bottom

ā€œWho’s to say where the dick begins and the spleen ends?ā€ ~Robert Schimmel

The standard technique is to measure from the center of the anus, once around the balls to just beyond the tip

They start measuring from your butthole

It is said that 3-5 inches of penis is within your abdomen, so if a doctor cut it and stretched it, you could DOUBLE your penis length on the outside.

You mean if we pull hard enough?!?

Shit, girl, you wanna dick pic? I'm about to send you an x-ray!

the Goons funniest joke ever probably

I always measure from my asshole

Data:
Population Penis Size: Veale et al. 2014
Male Perception: King 2021
Female Perception: Prause et al. 2015
Porn-star: /u/omsoni @ /r/measuredpornstars (deleted post, but there's a lot of data still there)

Analysis: R & Excel
Visualization: R & Gimp

Can you do one on growers vs. showers next?

One way to quantify this would be the change in quantile from flaccid to erect. So 'growers' are more outstanding erect than flaccid, and 'showers' are the opposite. But I've never seen raw penis size data available to link the 2, just summary stats and distributions.

what about bathtubs?

i_was_in_the_pool(1).gif

It depends what you are being showered with or bathed in.

I think growers vs showers is a myth perpetuated by guys that don’t want women thinking that their smaller flaccid dick is close to the full size (understandable)

Like every guy has seen their shit small AF (cold pool, while working out, on adderall, etc) and likes to think they’re a grower because they have seen it at full mast when in reality everyone’s dick does that

Showers exist and I am not one.

I’m sayin like maybe someone you think is a shower is someone who was at full flaccid length (like a hot day or a half chub) because you’re not gonna see as many dicks all shriveled up outside of the pool or something, because when it’s hella small they’re gonna be less likely to let it be seen. Dicks that are gonna be seen by someone else are more likely to be on the larger end of their flaccid range so it leads to a confirmation bias that these guys don’t have times where their shit is shriveled up too. At least that’s my hypothesis

Yeah that’s possible. I guess that’s why we need the data. Some controls like ice bath length Vs Margot Robbie strip tease length. I volunteer as the first subject. I’ll do the ice bath first

I think what you're missing is that for some dudes small AF is just normally how it hangs. There's no significant difference between cold pool and summer day. But when it's time for business it grows to normal size.

I get that but I also think there’s a component of dudes telling themselves ā€œyeah I’m just a naturally small hanger but I grow to normal I guessā€ because they’re comparing themselves to other flaccid>erect transitions they’ve seen which would skew to look more like a ā€œshowerā€ because the selection bias of seeing dicks would be that the dicks they see go from flaccid to erect aren’t gonna be dicks that are on the shriveled up and small end of that particular persons range

When in reality the dudes they’re seeing likely shrink up just like everyone else but not when they’re in a situation where they’re about to whip it out

I'm absolutely sure there are a LOT of people (maybe everyone that claims to be a grower, if you are right.) that do this to make themselves/their partners feel less bad. However, that's why the study would be useful. It'd prove that such a thing exists or does not.

Found the shower!

I’ve got a wide range just like anyone else lmao I’ve seen that shit shriveled up like a raisin and I’ve seen it and been like wow I’m having a great dick day. But I think everyone has seen their own dick at its smallest so it makes them more eager to believe many other guys don’t have that range, precisely because dudes aren’t gonna show off their dick at its smallest

This is just wrong lol. Many people are actually growers

As a woman who has seen unerect penises in similar settings, I have to tell you you're wrong. It's also not just about the size difference, they just look different.

Idn, im like 4.5 inches soft 7 hard. And significantly thicker. Some guys seem to have a lot less variation between the 2

nah man my dick grows like 3x it’s size but I know other people where that doesn’t happen

Black people are showers 100 percent. Some of them could be 6" soft. But none of them will be 12 inches hard. My dick doubles in size from flaccid to erect.

Is Veale et al your source for the statement that "there is no correlation between race and penis length"? Because it doesn't seem to be making such a strong claim:

It is not possible from this meta-analysis to draw any conclusions about any differences in penile size across different races.

Shoot, I read the papers a while ago so I may have misremembered what Veale said or read a different paper that had that info. I should have double checked before including that.

Nah you’re right, Wikipedia comes to the same conclusion.

From wiki:

Alleged differences in races have led to the creation of sexual myths. A 2005 study reported that "there is no scientific background to support the alleged 'oversized' penis in black people".[31]

A study of 253 men from Tanzania found that the average stretched flaccid penis length of Tanzanian males is 11.5 cm (4.53 inches) long, smaller than the worldwide average, stretched flaccid penis length of 13.24 cm (5.21 inches), and average erect penis length of 13.12 cm (5.17 inches).[15]

A 2016 study of 248 Korean men identified the average erect penis length to be 13.53 cm (5.33 in).[18] A study of 115 men from Nigeria found that the average flaccid stretched penis length of Nigerian males is 13.37 cm (5.26 inches) long, which is near identical to the worldwide average, stretched flaccid penis length of 13.24 cm (5.21 inches) and average erect penis length of 13.12 cm (5.17 inches).[32]

According to Aaron Spitz, a urologist, many websites and studies promoting variation of penis size between races use unscientific methods of collecting information and often ignore contradictory evidence. He concludes that "when you really take a good look at the naked data, there’s not a whole lot there [showing racial variation in penis size]."[34]

So even if there were differences, there’s certainly not enough to be statistically significant

A study of 253 men from Tanzania found that the average stretched flaccid penis length of Tanzanian males is 11.5 cm (4.53 inches) long, smaller than the worldwide average, stretched flaccid penis length of 13.24 cm (5.21 inches), and average erect penis length of 13.12 cm (5.17 inches).[15]

A 2016 study of 248 Korean men identified the average erect penis length to be 13.53 cm (5.33 in).[18] A study of 115 men from Nigeria found that the average flaccid stretched penis length of Nigerian males is 13.37 cm (5.26 inches) long, which is near identical to the worldwide average, stretched flaccid penis length of 13.24 cm (5.21 inches) and average erect penis length of 13.12 cm (5.17 inches).[32]

Why are they mixing "stretched flaccid" and "erect" seems to be purposefully confusing...

I believe this is based on earlier studies that show a pretty significant correlation between stretched flaccid length and erect length.

The worldwide average of over 15k men has stretched flaccid length a little longer than erect length, it seems

stretched flaccid length a little longer than erect length

That can't be true... or I'm a real grower.

You don't magically grow skin when you get an erection, it has to all be there already. So yes, your stretched flaccid length should be comparable to your fully erect length.

I need a ruler, extra pair of hands and someone with good eyes.

Hold on, let me get my extra grippy work gloves.

A micrometer is not a ruler

And a friend who can keep a secret

Get a penis double while you're at it!

Not at all, skin is pliable. Just pull your elbow or balls and see how far they go. (Depending on age)

It's funny you should say that cus it's made me realise something I never had before.

I'm a grower for sure, it's tiny when not erect but comes out at 7" when I'm "ready for action". I had noticed, and at least one girlfriend has pointed out, that I've got an excess of foreskin when I'm soft. Not in anyway which looks hideous, but for sure foreskin which extends past the head compared to other dicks I've seen.

It kind of makes sense, that excess skin is there because of the wild difference between soft and hard! šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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Oh for sure, probably many other guys with this "issue".

Right there with you friend! Dick buddies for life!

The thing is many people in the US are cut, so you can lose up to a head's worth of length.

lol you grab the head, the glans, to stretch it and measure it

you don't grab the foreskin lol, that shit stretches like crazy

trivial to roll it down, grab the head, and stretch it

AMA about having a foreskin

yeah that makes more sense

anyway how's ur day going?

I feel like reddit's been pretty toxic lately lol, why can't we just be normal?

personally I’m currently enjoying a beer and some sunlight, reading a new scifi novel called Upgrade by Blake Crouch

How’s the book?

You've gotta be kidding :'D

And if you cut your hair, you lose a lot of height!

And also all your strength!

Not always. For example circumcised people can grow past the point where an uncircumsized penis's foreskin skin would stop it.

Sounds like you are just not stretching it enough.

Stretch harder. Really put some oomf into it.

There is only 1mm difference between stretched flaccid length and erect length averages. If you don't see it in your own measurement, you aren't stretching hard enough.

Your " stretching" and a scientists version is vastly different. !!

Growers unite! I saw a reddit thread once, their partner called it a "Battle Penis"

anecdotal evidence but my stretched flaccid penis is a couple cm longer than erect

On the contrary, my stretched flaccid is at least 0.5ā€ shorter (just measured lol). Unless the scientists really do yank on them beyond the point of ā€˜comfortable’ lol.

if we measure by foreskin im huge tho, i definitely have room to grow

did you type this with a boner or did you wait until it went down

Well I’ll be damned. Just checked and yep.

Anecdotal evidence with a sample size of 1 suggests that this may not be universal

Makes perfect sense. You don't grow more skin as you get an erection, so it's all already there. Pulling a flacid penis taught, all the available skin is stretched out in one direction. When filling that same skin with blood to make it erect, it fills in all directions, shortening it a few millimeters.

That makes no sense at all

As another poster has eloquently put, ā€œDo you think my ding dong can get longer erect than if i stretch it while flaccid?ā€

When you stretch it, all the skin goes into length. An erection is just stretching it but with internal pressure so some of that skin goes to girth too instead of length so it is a bit shorter.

Huh, I guess that makes more sense. thanks for explaining bud

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But it doesn’t, stretched length is in general bigger than erect length, and there’s been multiple studies that have established the strong correlation between the two. You can’t just grow more skin.

Should check out the rest of the thread for a more balanced discussion

That seems to be part of the problem. I remember reading some "sources" from people who claimed this years and years ago. It wasn't one single study that went around with a single standard methodology. The paper was basically a gathering of all the separate literatures out there and comparing them. Obviously that can lead to some real issues which you are keying in on.

Didn't help that I think one of the main "academic" proponents of this was a racist white guy who tried to tie it to intelligence, saying larger sexual organs were a sign of lower intelligence and vice versa which is basically all the old stereotypes. Black men dumb but big. Asian men small but smart. White men goldilocks zone. Convenient for him I guess.

That’s also a very old view. Grecian philosopher statues had small penises while small ruddy-faced trolls had massive ones.

Because not all studies use the same methods.

Why did you quote almost an entire parent comment?

So many questions abound in this thread...

probably different studies and they're just using them for supporting evidence.

Probably because the studies are not consistent in methodology, which is why they included the worldwide average for both.

I wonder what that person has as their job title? National dick inspector?

Who stretches their penis while being measured scientifically? Am I in the top 1% of non stretchers in scientific experiments?

"naked data" hehe I see what you did there

He concludes that "when you really take a good look at the naked data, there’s not a whole lot there

I thought I was the only one subjected to Penis Inspection Day!

naked data. very fitting.

Why are they comparing erect to flaccid? That doesn’t really answer anything…

Edit: if anyone has a link to data comparing the two measurements, please share!

They're providing the global average for both so you can use that as a baseline, and see that both global averages are close, which might suggest that, absent the data we want (e.g. local erect averages for all locations), we might be able to use the data we have (e.g. how local flaccid averages compare to the global flaccid average) to make predictions about what the data we want would look like (how local erect averages would compare to global erect average).

Fair point. I’d obviously like to see that those two measurements correlate for individuals and not just for a population, but maybe it’s easier to get your hands on flaccid penis measurements?

By the way did anyone find if they specified a standardised way of stretching a flaccid penis?

Stretched flaccid is highly correlated to erect, and not every study measures both.

Stretched flaccid is probably more reliable as your erection can have some variation depending on level of arousal, and getting your dick measured at the doctor's office doesn't seem like the most arousing situation

My doctor told me to stop masturbating. I said "Why?" He said "Because I'm trying to get a measurement."

Depends on the doctor.

Other people have commented that erections are usually induced medically (by pills) for this purpose, taking away the need for the doctor to be arousing.

Did you come by any data to support that the two measurements are correlated for individuals and not just have the same mean on a population level?

I didn't collect the data. Some studies measure both. I don't recall which ones.

Fair enough, it’s kind of a must-know if the data are self reported or measured by a doctor, that’s why I think we need to see them

Do you think my ding dong can get longer erect than if i stretch it while flaccid?

Based on personal experience? Yes, most certainly.

You're just not stretching it hard enough.

Same… maybe theoretically it should be the same but in practice stretching flaccid to fully erect length sounds too painful to be realistic

I suppose really depends on the specifics of stretching a flaccid one - is there a standardised way of stretching it?

Edit: I suppose the real answer is that if we want to use erect and stretched flaccid as the same thing, we should at least validate the comparability.

I'm guessing they pierce the head and use a ratchet and a rope to slowly reach max stretch.

How far do they pull? 10 kg weight or until the guy complains?

Until the guys mom tells them top stop. Usually involves the dude calling his mom first, but the smart ones break both arms and ask her to come with.

Ah yeah I think I’ve heard about that broken arms part from elsewhere actually, so it’s probably true

I've never been known to lie.

They're doctors. Unless you are literally pulling bricks out of the wall with your fingernails they'll just tell you "it's a pinch"

Are they though? Many of the erect penis length studies are with self reported measurements, and even between doctors there has to be a standard for it to be truly reproducible. Half a cm makes a big difference in this case.

It's been validated in multiple studies.

Please enlighten us

Isn't this what penis pumps and people that hang weights from their ding dongs try to do?

Men have different erection quality. Some guys might lose out on a few cm because they can't get as hard anymore. Stretched is the better control because it doesn't have to take that into account.

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There are different levels of erection. The size of an erection varies based on exactly how hard it is. Stretched flaccid length is finding how far your skin can stretch and thereby establish the maximum erection size. It removes some variability and also doesn't require people to get an erection.

"stretched flaccid" is basically the same length as erect but doesn't require actually getting erect. Measuring the maximum size that the skin on your penis can reach is basically the same as using blood to reach that maximum size.

Did you come by any data to support this?

https://www.google.com/search?q=correlation+between+stretched+flaccid+and+erect+penis+length

multiple different studies confirming the correlation

Have you read them though? I just had a look at the top 5, and they don’t seem to agree on any clear cut correlation - or on any measuring standard. The only thing that they can more or less all agree on is that stretched flaccid and erect are not the same length.

The correlation between flaccid and erect lengths is not sufficiently close to use flaccid length as the sole measure of penile size. However, stretched length does allow for an estimation of erect length to help counsel patients with concerns regarding penile adequacy.

The correlation between the flaccid and the erect lengths was 71.2%, and it was 80.2% between the stretched and the erect lengths (p < 0.01).

Preoperative pharmacologically induced erect penile length and stretched penile lengths are equal predictors of post-prosthesis inflated penile length

Three different studies, all confirming the correlation. Did you read them?

Yes, but they do not claim that the two are identical, only that they correlate. And the observed correlations are not the same, as measuring standards varied. Listen, I’m not trying to make you look bad or anything, I just really think you are misinterpreting the papers right now. Let’s please have a scientifically based conversation or none at all.

They correlate strongly. "However, stretched length does allow for an estimation of erect length". Are you claiming that 80% correlation is not a strong enough correlation for you? You asked "Why are they comparing erect to flaccid? That doesn’t really answer anything…" and all of these papers are saying that they correlate strongly enough to use stretched length in cases where you would use erect length. Your question has been directly answered by these papers but that isn't good enough for you?

Yup, the thing about people of African descent is their genetic diversity over all other "races". For example you see the tallest and shortest humans amongst to Africans. You see some Africans with naturally slim figures and some naturally muscled with little effort. I imagine it's the same with penis's, their average is the same but you'll likely find the biggest and possibly the smallest specimens amongst those of African decent, so it perpetuates the myth. Porn producers obviously seek this out as it makes for "good porn", thus creating the idea that black dudes are all packing.

Not that we had anytthing to do with that study , But those samples sizes , no pun intended, are pretty small. 115 men , 253 men, and 248 men are all pretty small pools for comparisons sake. 500 - 1000 would be more reasonable to get some outliers in the mix.

Also, people across Africa are really diverse when it comes to skin colour and average height. So that they only had people from Tanzania, which we as westerners have basically no contact with, so they are not responsible for the stereotype, seems wrong.

The statement "there is no correlation" is not sufficiently backed up just by the null-effect of "not statistically significant".

Besides, how do you know it's not significant if you haven't actually examined the data? Because tiny differences can still be significant (in the presence of low enough variance). In science, these things have meaning, and they need to be demonstrated empirically. Oh, I forgot, it's Reddit...

There was also a recent study that showed that the average for Vietnamese men was 5.7-8

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33484108/

The fuck is a stretched flaccid penis???

So the average stretched flaccid Tanzanian penis is about the the same size as the average erect Korean penis. Do Wikipedia editors not know how penises work? That's a pretty big significance.

It's not. Do a personal experiment. Measure a penis by stretched flaccid length and then measure the same penis by erect length. It is remarkably close to the same measurement. So much so, that it is scientifically "safe" to measure stretched flaccid length if the test subject is not able to present an erection at the time of the measurement.

Think about it how penises work and tell me if you think an erect penis can be longer than that same penis stretched while flaccid...

All this talk of stretching out schlongs is making my crotch hurt

There's a huge difference between the statement that there is no difference and the statement that no one has found a difference. The first one implies that someone investigated in a comprehensive manner that they believe would show a difference if it existed.

A more accurate in general statement would read something like "no statistically significant difference has been demonstrated."

I mean I don't really care in this case, but generally speaking you can do a lot of harm by misrepresenting what has or hasn't been studied.

Right, a more accurate statement would be that no reliable studies have been able to prove a definitive difference in penis size.

Still, it’s quite difficult to disprove a negative, and it’s very illuminating that there has been no study that has been able to conclude these alleged differences

None of the studies that were listed in the comment above would have shown a difference even if one existed.

Race and ethnicity is a kind of weird thing, but for the most part we're grouping people based on very superficial characteristics - they don't necessarily translate to having a lot of common genetics. I would not expect a handful of small studies done on specific ethnic groups to translate to larger racial groups.

Again, I don't really care about this topic - at all. But the same kind of language is misleading in other areas. Think about someone who hears scientist shown that there's no difference between the brand name and the generic drug, but they feel that there is a really big difference because they're allergic to one of the binding chemicals in a certain generic. Or someone who hears science shows that there's no connection between this factor and that symptom when what actually has happened is that it hasn't been fairly studied.

If you're going to communicate data then you have a responsibility to do so accurately. It isn't hard to say something like "no link has been demonstrated between x and y."

Oh I was talking about studies in general, if there were racial differences I’m sure someone somewhere would fund it. Kellogg is the reason why men are circumcised in the US vs Europe after all, after he published and funded several (questionable) studies about the benefits of circumcision.

At the end of the day it’s tough to know, all I was saying is that someone somewhere would’ve funded such a study, and the fact that it doesn’t exist (yet) means that there may be truth to it. Certainly more so than certain industries that seek to profit from aggravating these misconceptions

I don't think someone would have funded it - The studies that we do have aren't great, it would be expensive to do well, and there isn't enough need or people interested. Unfortunately, a lot of sexual health research is underfunded and there is a lack of quality modern studies.

I would never ever start with the assumption that if there's a different someone would have found it by now. Not for any topic. We barely understand how men and women respond differently to essential medications, we don't have accurate maps of rapidly changing coastlines, there's a ton of basic information that we don't have. That's it's own fascinating subject, but if you don't know then you can't report that you do.

Ok but what about the stretched ERECT length? That's the only one that really counts.

I actually find it a little disturbing how it seems as though hoops get jumped through to obfuscate the truth. You can reasonably say that a person's given race doesn't dictate his penis size, and that's what many of these statements ultimately boil down to. It's also what this article (https://www.drelist.com/blog/penis-size-race/) clarifies at first, although ultimately the article does reveal the known disparities by ethnicity.

It's disturbing because it's a scientific truth, yet because it suggests differences between races which one might be tempted to pigeonhole as superior/inferior, it's transparently unpopular for such truths to be admitted, at least without placating preamble.

Malnutrition is rampant in Africa, and that has a direct impact on physical growth. I was in Tanzania last fall and at 5'11 I towered over a lot of the local men.

A fairer comparison would be between African and Asian Americans, using standardized methodology.

This is for Africans, but what about African Americans? Aka descendants of American slaves. That might be different, as slaves with bigger schlongs might have been prized by racist perverted slaveowners and therefore survived better than slaves with smaller ones. Therefore leading to average penis size amongst African Americans today may actually be larger than average.

This had been my thought. I wonder if there have been any studies specifically looking at this.

Nothing like some good naked Data

Hey only reliable sources, until I edit.

It could be enough to be statistically significant, the term you wanted is clinically significant.

this link shows the difference in size between different countries. It is most likely not completely accurate, but it definitely shows a correlation between race and size

As a gay guy, I can definitely say there’s a correlation between race and penis size.

i think the vaele study was heavily criticized and not really relied on. I know that over at r/bigdickproblems the vaele study is never used.

I would check this site that does a meta analysis of a number of studies. https://calcsd.info/

Race is kind of a bad criterion to use anyway. The modern world's a melting pot, and there's more diversity within any given 'race' than there is difference between them.

If they controlled for height, there probably wasn't any difference. Maybe even if they didn't.

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The only study on the topic I have seen seemed to say that there is no verifiable correlation.

Did you try to look? From Sex and Pyschology:

https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/2018/5/2/fact-check-are-there-really-racial-differences-in-penis-size/

"That said, recent studies support the idea that race-based differences in penis size may exist. For instance, in a 2013 paper published in the journal Personality and Individual Differences, researchers reviewed penis size reports from 113 countries [1]. What they found was that men of African decent tended to report the longest penises (an average of 16.07 cm, or 6.33 inches), while those of East Asian decent tended to report the shortest penises (an average of 10.95 cm, or 4.31 inches). Men of European decent tended to fall somewhere in the middle (an average of 14.51 cm, or 5.71 inches).
Much of the data utilized in this paper were based on self-reports of penis size, though, which is a concern. However, these findings were corroborated to a degree in a new study published in the International Journal of Impotence Research in which the measurements were performed by trained researchers [2]. This study took place in Brazil and involved 627 men aged 18-86.
The analysis only focused on those who self-declared as being either Black or White. What they found was that Black participants had an average penis length of 16.5 cm (6.50 inches), while White participants had an average penis length of 15.6 cm (6.22 inches)."

There are always going to be issues on this topic, but it's largely consistent in self-reported data and the few studies that have had a third party due to the measuring.

Self reported doesnt mean really anything. Way of measurement are not clear.

Doesn’t this only show that black penises are bigger than white ones? Study says nothing about Middle Eastern/East Asian/South Asian/Pacific Islander penises.

Wikipedia says:

Alleged differences in races have led to the creation of sexual myths. A 2005 study reported that "there is no scientific background to support the alleged 'oversized' penis in black people".[31]

A study of 253 men from Tanzania found that the average stretched flaccid penis length of Tanzanian males is 11.5 cm (4.53 inches) long, smaller than the worldwide average, stretched flaccid penis length of 13.24 cm (5.21 inches), and average erect penis length of 13.12 cm (5.17 inches).[15]

A 2016 study of 248 Korean men identified the average erect penis length to be 13.53 cm (5.33 in).[18] A study of 115 men from Nigeria found that the average flaccid stretched penis length of Nigerian males is 13.37 cm (5.26 inches) long, which is near identical to the worldwide average, stretched flaccid penis length of 13.24 cm (5.21 inches) and average erect penis length of 13.12 cm (5.17 inches).[32] A 2014 American study by Herbenick et al. of 1,661 sexually active men involving Asian American, Black American, White American, Pacific Islander/Hawaiian, and Native American men, found average racial differences in erect penile length and circumference to be generally less than one centimeter, with averages in length being: 14.14 cm (5.56 inches) for Asian Americans, 14.66 cm (5.77 inches) for Black Americans, 14.88 cm (5.85 inches) for Pacific Islanders/Hawaiians, 12.86 cm for Native Americans (5.06 inches), and 14.18 cm (5.58 inches) for White Americans (And in circumference: Asians 12.10 cm, Blacks 12.29 cm, Pacific Islanders 11.88 cm, Native Americans 11.36 cm, and Whites 12.25 cm).[33] A 2015 systematic review of 15,521 men found "no indications of differences in racial variability", and stated that it was not possible to draw any conclusions about size and race from the available literature and that further research needed to be conducted.[1]

According to Aaron Spitz, a urologist, many websites and studies promoting variation of penis size between races use unscientific methods of collecting information and often ignore contradictory evidence. He concludes that "when you really take a good look at the naked data, there’s not a whole lot there [showing racial variation in penis size]."[34]

No indications in racial variability after studying >15k men seems like a pretty safe conclusion

If I never hear the words "flaccid stretched" IRL I will be happy

You look foolish citing that nonsense wiki page that must be edited by a smaller gentleman. It makes claims not supported by evidence and they only proof is opinion quotes.

race is correlated with height, and height is correlated with penis size, so thus, race should be correlated with penis size

It's that simple and many studies have shown this. In fact your own wiki source shows difference in Korean to other Asians. So how dare they then draw conclusion there isn't other correlations by race.

You’re welcome to edit it if you think you have better data, I’m not sure if I’m seeing any of what you’re writing

Why does the dick size of whoever edited have anything to do with this? What?

Man you’re really fucking into this theory.

Wiki says I’m wrong? Must be edited by a small dick!

Fuck outta here.

Wanna know the main scientific difference in a black person to a white one??

Pigment. That’s it.

What kind of woke world do you live in where you so easily forget science?

Sorry but there are differences from hundreds of years of different diets, climate and breeding. Lactose tolerance is a thing. Diabetes is a thing. Sickle cell is a thing. Thalassemia, hereditary hemochromatosis... Etc.. Certain populations have even different immunity to diseases like malaria.

So yes there are real scientific differences from a population of humans living and breeding in difference parts of the world for hundreds of years. It's not just pigment.

If height is correlated with penis size then the wikipedia post is correct search for the mean and average height of african countries.

Looking at the malnutrition in the region , I wouldn't be surprised that some nations rank lower than average.

North Korea and South Korea have marginal difference despite being genetically similar. Lifestyle and nurture is important too.

Self reported penis sizes lol.

I’m sure that’s accurate and not at all exaggerated.

So Asians are more honest and Africans lie more?

That what you’re saying?

Lol

Im saying I trust the study that actually went out and measured dicks more than self reporting any day lol.

The African descended populations in the new world may be different from African population as a whole. Genetic drift and some selective pressures may have influenced the results.

Also, "African" is hardly a category. Six foot something Masai have different bodies than four foot Khoisan or Pygmies or Berbers. There is more genetic diversity within Africa than in the rest of humanity combined.

Ding ding ding, this is the real answer. There isn't any correlation based on race, because "race" is a social construct and has little to do with genetics or ethnicity.

Black Americans are mostly descended from West Africans, so there's bound to be differences in many regards from the continent's wider population.

I think the population in American tends to be wider

Former Anthropologist here: There has been definitive correlation with selective breeding in the New World to larger/stronger African slaves. I mean, it makes sense that you would want to breed your biggest and best to utilize for manual labor. Those larger bodies would usually have size relative genitals. Post-slavery would still carry those traits for some lineages even though no longer using selective breeding.

Well… that’s funny cause I’ve read that height (ā€˜bigger people’) has little correlation with penis length. It’s soft tissue - not bone. Just like you get small chicks with large breasts and tall chicks who have smaller breasts. Neither one is more likely to have either.

I mean, I kinda believe it, cause my cousin is 5’2 and he’s hung like a fucking horse lmao.

Damn stop checking out his dick so much.

Sorry, did that part of my comment get you excited or something?

There is always outliers, genetic lines, mutations etc. But typically it is relative to your size. Do you think Shaq has a 5" penis?

No. But my point is that studies have shown that penis size is not all that relative to body size - there is a weak correlation. Shaq might have a 5ā€ penis. Much the same as a 5ā€10 man might have a 4 inch penis or a 7 inch penis.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/107906329300600305?journalCode=saxa#:~:text=Penile%20length%20was%20found%20to,practical%20estimators%20of%20penis%20length.

ā€œPenile length was found to be statistically related to both body height and foot length, but with weak correlation coefficients. Height and foot size would not serve as practical estimators of penis length.ā€

I.e. the size of your other features (such as hands, feet, nose etc.) are more relative to your body size than your penis size is. So tall men generally will have larger feet - but that doesn’t necessarily mean that they have a larger penis to go with it.

Like I said, it’s the same with women. Height is not a good predictor of titty size.

I remember reading a study that gave more or less those numbers but the standard deviation for black men was larger. Which would mean more really big dicks but also more really small ones.

Self declared of being white or black? Call me old-fashioned, but that’s not quite the right thing to do šŸ˜… When someone have close to equally mixed race ancestors, they shouldn’t be categorized by race, it’s just holding into schemes that are no longer valid

It is a massive headache to investigate people's ethnic histories. You have to trust the patient to accurately relate family history, which is itself somewhat untrustworthy, full of people omitting this or that ancestry or lying about false paternity and adoption, if the person even knows it. DNA testing is an alternative option, assuming you can trust the results (they might work OK for determining broad ancestry e.g. European vs. African vs. Indigenous American). But that's an added expense, and even if you go through with it you still have to pick fairly arbitrary cutoffs for "when is someone too mixed to be included in the study". So you'd end up spending time and/or money inventing and implementing your own idiosyncratic definition of race that your peers won't necessarily agree is valid, all while shrinking your sample size.

It's way easier to just ask people how they self-identify and then be honest about this limitation in your methods. Unless something very strange is going on, like half of all self-identified white men in Brazil are lying about their ancestry, with a sufficient sample size you will probably be able to detect any trends that are driven by differences in ancestry, since self-identified whites will have a much higher average European ancestry and a much lower average Black ancestry than the self-identified black group.

It was a long time ago and I don't really care anymore, anyways a quick google search also popped this up, it's a compilation of different sources.

https://knowingless.com/2021/08/18/is-penis-size-and-race-really-uncorrelated/

I suspect that something like this can't be ever fully confirmed, self reports can't be trusted and it's difficult to get full arousal in front of someone for the sole purpose of getting measured.

Yeah, the self-reports are pretty wack

Not to mention that "race" has no biological meaning

Well, a small shot of viagra could help with arousal problem šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

No. You still have to wanna get aroused. If your brain is saying no, your dick won’t work.

IDK if this is relevant but Trojan sell smaller condoms in asia than they do in the west.

Anyone can see how its obviously not true. Kinda discredits the whole original graphic.

Anecdotally (ive seen a lottt of erect penises), there is absolutely a racial difference. Race also includes more than black, white and asian.

That’s certainly not what the science concludes. If anything they all conclude that there aren’t any statistically significant differences between races. The ā€œoversized black penis mythā€ is racist propaganda left over from the days of slavery to paint black people as ā€œanimals,ā€ and it’s not a good thing that it’s managed to stick around.

From wiki:

Alleged differences in races have led to the creation of sexual myths. A 2005 study reported that "there is no scientific background to support the alleged 'oversized' penis in black people".[31]

A study of 253 men from Tanzania found that the average stretched flaccid penis length of Tanzanian males is 11.5 cm (4.53 inches) long, smaller than the worldwide average, stretched flaccid penis length of 13.24 cm (5.21 inches), and average erect penis length of 13.12 cm (5.17 inches).[15]

A 2016 study of 248 Korean men identified the average erect penis length to be 13.53 cm (5.33 in).[18] A study of 115 men from Nigeria found that the average flaccid stretched penis length of Nigerian males is 13.37 cm (5.26 inches) long, which is near identical to the worldwide average, stretched flaccid penis length of 13.24 cm (5.21 inches) and average erect penis length of 13.12 cm (5.17 inches).[32]

According to Aaron Spitz, a urologist, many websites and studies promoting variation of penis size between races use unscientific methods of collecting information and often ignore contradictory evidence. He concludes that "when you really take a good look at the naked data, there’s not a whole lot there [showing racial variation in penis size]."[34]

So even if there were differences, there’s certainly not enough to be statistically significant

Based on askhistorians and other subs commentary, the larger penis — barbarian myth goes back way farther than American slavery. I imagine that in other eras the stereotype applied to the Irish as well, but that’s just a guess.

It’s an ancient cultural Chinese thing too. Big dick = dumb. Small dick = smart.

racist propaganda left over from the days of slavery to paint black people as ā€œanimals,ā€

Which is really funny when you take into consideration that humans have the largest penises of any primate. So you can say the larger the penis the more human they are. Checkmate, racists.

Man, you really can't be saying a phrase like "the science concludes" and then cite a politicized wikipedia article that clearly does not include a literature review.

Really, really doesn't sound scientific to use "race"...

Humans literally do not have different races. Different races is not a thing outside of American pop culture, racists and fantasy.

Races are groupings of certain phenotypical traits that makes it easy to separate people into groups. If you wanted to group people more accurately, you would use ethnicity, or tribal groups.

Also you can’t really correlate a continuous variable with a categorical one such as race.

Race is such a nebulous concept. Remember a person from West Africa and East Africa have more genetic variance than someone from western Europe and East Asia.

What does that have to do with them not being on a continuous scale? Odd comment.

They were simply adding to your comment, not countering it. We categorize race in a way that doesn't accurately reflect anything. The only useful category would be one of genetic variance which would show the continuous nature of race.

Fair. I was totally confused by the relevance initially.

Just adding to your point :)

Yeah I see that now - I thought you were presuming I saw race the same way as an early 19th century colonialist. Apologies for the snark.

Sure, you can do an ANOVA test to see if the difference in means is statistically significant.

That’s not a correlation - there are no two variables whose ā€˜co-relation’ can be tested. An ANOVA is a comparison of means across different groups. That’s the point I was making.

You can't compute Pearson or Spearman correlation, but there other metrics.

Anyway, the mean of the continuous variable can be different across different categories. Which is not a correlation in the strictest sense, but it's what is in question.

Yeah, a comparison across groups is much more sensible

Glad someone said this. It would have to be an ANOVA.

Prepare to have your mind blown: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02294164?noAccess=true

Although I suspect they meant correlated in the common language sense of related, so your point is semantic rather than meaningful

Race isn't a scientific concept. There is nearly nothing in common between a Zulu and a Somali, except a continent and to some extent a skin colour. Beside the fact that both are humans, obviously.

Oh god another person feeling the need to comment this. No matter what flawed metric we apply to the concept of ā€˜race’, it doesn’t fit a continuous scale (though it could be a spectrum), and thus in the context of this work does not fit the principles of a correlation. That was my point. I was using the example of race being measured as a categorical variable - not stating that race a) exists and b) can be easily categorised. Smh.

this didn't take long to find. I like the percentage of height stat.

https://www.worlddata.info/average-penissize.php

What about girth?

From the veale article I believe: "The greatest proportion of the participants in the present meta-analysis were Caucasoids. There was only one study of 320 men in Negroids and two studies of 445 men in Mongoloids." It's not that they couldn't find, but moreso that can't make any conclusions from the studies. If you were to add race to this, which alot of people on here want to for some reason, this would mostly be a study about white men.

I knew it. I came to the comments to confirm.

Confirm what? It’s certainly a myth perpetuated by slavery and the portrayal of black people as ā€œanimals.ā€ It’s not a good thing that the stereotype has stuck around

The rest of the thread has a lot of data that you can look at

I commented to you below as well but just a note, the Veale study seems to be one that no one really relies on due to some flaws in how it was conducted. here is a better dataset to look at: https://calcsd.info/datasets.html

The Veale study I'm thinking of is a meta-analysis, and their requirements for including data in it were pretty decent. Certainly much better than that exaggerated Italian self-report dataset.

As a mod on /r/measuredpornstars I dont remember that post but I do agree that the mean for pornstars is probably about 7 inches bone pressed.

Though its hard to figure out how big a pornstar is bone pressed because they will NEVER EVER do reliable and honest measurements.

Instead they'll compare to objects, do lame ass measurements from below the balls or other dumb shit, or even use fake rulers.

So I always go by non bone pressed and most pornstars are in fairly good shape so not much of a difference anyways between bone pressed and non bone pressed.

Also worth mentioning that porn stars also lie about their height. Most of them are short.

Mandingo, regarded as one of if not the longest ever in porn at about 9 inches was quite short at maybe 5'6" tall.

bone pressed?

Bone pressed is sticking the ruler into ur fat pad. Non bone pressed is simply placing the ruler in front of your fat pad.

The fat pad is mainly due to genetics and even people in really good shape may have a inch of fat pad. While others may only have a 1/2 inch.

Neither bone pressed or non bone pressed tells you how much "usable" length you have. The usable length is usually in between the two.

Wait im somehow taller than the man ,the myth, the legend mandingo. Damn....

Now do it in cm

Girth is always left out of these conversations.

The one about the lack of differences in race?

Yeah, that's the one I'm struggling to believe as well, it just seems too... ideal, need the data there.

To me it just seems so obvious. If it's not true, then I wonder what the alternative explanations are for men in JAV always having like 4 inch dicks, whereas guys in western porn (even amateur porn) usually have 5-8 inches

I can't speak in general but Japanese porn seems to be strictly made for men only. It seems like they deliberately get below average men just to make the viewers feel good about themselves. I've seen that even in videos about a guy seducing a girl, they get some out of shape creepy looking 40-50 year man or a young but undernourished one who is also usually shorter than the woman. I mean the dick is pixelated in majority of the videos but they just pixelate an area as small as possible to imply he has a small dick as well which is probably what they intend

This is a nonsense explanation. Japanese porn is no more male-oriented than Western porn. You do often see young, attractive men in J-porn that are shot at angles titillating to women and gay men... yet their penises still trend small.

/r/JAVUncensored/ :D

I haven't had the time to look at your sources, but how comparable are the male and female perception studies. Is the methodology similar?

Why does the graph go for a straight line from 7.0-8.5? No way those are all proportional. Just lack of data for that range?

Can you do this in cm for the rest of us please?

Your data is wrong according to many many other studies. Or at least is US biased. If you do this by race, you will find these results are different.

Just going to need more research.

Is it based on erect or limp penises? Always wondered this.

Another interesting anecdote shown here is that virtually zero porn stars have an actual average-sized penis.

Where do they measure from?

How are they measured?

Why is the pornstar graph not following a normal distribution?

Seems multimodal for some reason?

Now is this fully erect?

Any chance you have height data? I think the whole 6ft thing is people being too shy to ask about size and instead they think height is a good proxy. I'm willing to bet it's not.

I wonder if they account for the fact that people with small penises don’t likely use them as much. Said another way, the smallest penises are, in all likelihood, never exposed. So a woman’s perception of the average size is actually on a different sample

I like this, but it doesn't account for girth which I've been told is an equally if not more important factor.

Are these measurements on erect or limp?

Sorry I might be mistaken here but it seems like there's a huge difference in sample size between the female and male perception studies is pretty vast. I feel like it would difficult to draw any meaningful implications without making sure they're from the same sample.

I was about to ask how you got pornstar measurements as that's a niche population that's probably well understudied and you gave me a link...

My... Fucking... Guy...

Thank you sir for your dedication. That's a lot of penis for one day...

It’s funny how people ALWAYS use the one outlier study that averaged out the smallest penis of all the studies in existence.

Wow, they actually measured the flaccid, stretched length of over 14k people.

Also, so mean erect length was 13.12cm with sd of 1.66. According to census.gov, there were 258.3M adults in the US in 2020. Cut that in half for 129.2M adult males in the US. That means that there are over 20M adult males with an erect penis size under 4.5" in the United States. Poor bastards.

"Exclusion criteria: samples with a congenital or acquired penile abnormality, previous surgery, complaint of small penis size or erectile dysfunction."

According to this does that mean that average penis size is potentially even shorter?

Today I learned I am above average at something. Take that math, you stupid bitch.

My dude you used the gimp on a graphic about dongs I salute you.

And that’s good data!

Thank you, so much, for posting the source data.

So, the studies were in proper units, but you decided: fuck it, I use hillbilly measurements!?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not really used to reading and analyzing papers, but isn't a sample size of 75 super small?

Is there data by ethnicity? I've always thought these plots were skewed smaller by certain populations, like Asians.

There’s really no correlation there, it’s all a myth perpetuated by the porn industry and African slavery, to paint black people as ā€œanimals.ā€ It’s not a good thing it’s managed to stick around. Plus, there’s a ton of African Americans in the US.

Check out the rest of a thread for a more enlightened discussion

What does the suggestion that black folks have large penises have to do with the suggestion that Asians may be lowering the mean?

Again, there’s more African Americans in the US than Asians, by like a factor of three so if they were (there isn’t), it would skew larger

Why do small penis guys constantly make posts complaining about this?

https://calcsd.info

For the morbidly curious, this is the standard dick measurement site. Measure away!

I hurt my feelings on this

Alexa, play Johnny Cash - Hurt

1000 would be bigger in a room of 1000

Change it to inches

You probably didn’t change the setting to inches

Me too, I’m gifted in one bloody area and brother let me tell you this: Average sounds better. Its not fun when your partner has to do the work and control any thrusting or movement to avoid discomfort.

Is it ā€œcoolā€ to get the reaction upon whipping it out? Totally, it is right until she realizes it can be uncomfortable or outright painful if unless she takes the lead.

I’m sorry, but everytime I see something like this, it feels like Elon musk telling me how hard it is to be a billionaire šŸ˜‚ like that’s all I want is the reaction I’m fine with whatever drawbacks šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

Until you start getting turned down at the point of entry.

Better than getting turned down cuz it’s too small. I’m not that small, but one sounds less fucked up than the other. Oh and I’m not downplaying y’all’s experiences either ijs personally I’d rather be told it’s too big than too small

Crazy right. Having a big dick is great except when a man truly actually cares in the most critical and sensitive moments. All your boys think it's funny as fuck to joke about and it is. Until the girl of your dreams has to settle for the fact that sex will not be ideal for the rest of your lives regardless of how much you care about each others needs. Even the big dick subreddits barely even touch on that side of things but ultimately it only affects such a tiny group of people.

Overall the societal anguish about small penises adds up to WAY more on the surface. Like that other user said though I'd put $$$ on guys actually having negative experiences because of largeness more frequently than smallness. Go figure.

I would wager getting turned down for too big happens more than too small.

No, it doesn't. Big just requires slowing it down and using more lube.

Seriously, you downvoters clearly don't own the equipment. Hitting the cervix is your biggest issue, girth never matters. Just lube it up and slow it down so you're not dick-punching her in the cervix and it's never a problem.

"17.12% In a room of 1000 guys, 829 would be bigger than you."

oh no...

It's chill bro, my experience, women tend to like the smaller dicks anyways. They can suck your dick better, it's easier for them to take it, and it opens more room for exploring kinks like anal. Trust me, you're fine

The whole big dick thing is just what dudes brag to each other about

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It measures in inches by default I think? The little drop down under the entry fields says inches for me.

Just let the dude have it bro, he needs it

Well this makes me feel great about myself, which I suppose puts me in the category of misinformed and insecure men the graph portrays.

1.8 times more voluminous than average

Noice

Hello fellow pancake dick

Buying condoms is a bitch. XL dick in only one direction is like getting a wish from a monkey paw.

size options are to much extra or feels like you are suffocating.

Did you change the source? Di Mauro seems to be the most realistic.

2 times more voluminous than average šŸ˜€

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I was in the pool!!

Yeah from 5 flaccid to 19 erect šŸ˜Ž

How do you measure your flaccid size? Is it an average?
Because mine fluctuates 2 or 3 inches with a slight breeze.

5cm is the smallest. It can be double that (while flaccid) depending on various factors and conditions.

Nobody needed proof

I find it so fascinating that this website is so modern it allows for dark mode

It’s been around awhile. They’ve definitely added a ton more to the site since I used it 3ish years ago

Hm. In a room of 1000 guys my flaccid dick is the biggest. I wonder if that's someone's kink, cause I don't win the same trophy when comparing erect dicks...

To get the biggest out of a thousand flaccid penises you have to be bigger than the average erect size (at least the mean shown in the OP image).

I don't understand inches, all I know is that I'm 14 centimeters flaccid. But jokes aside I'm not sure how they measure it, I imagine I'd get a worse measurement during winter or after getting out of cold water, so wouldn't a flaccid measurement be pretty...fluid?

Yeah, mine varies a good bit depending on various factors. I’d imagine getting measured in some kind of medical setting would be a situation where my penis was as small as it gets.

That's why they use the flaccid measurement to account for that. Also mentions though that in studies of "natural" vs drug induced (which should be 100%) there's very little difference in the mean erect size shown so that's why that bias is usually ignored. There's a pretty good explanation in that website listed above

I’m confused by your comment. We were talking about how our flaccid length can vary significantly, not referring to our ability to maintain a full erection.

Sorry, I honestly don't remember why I mentioned the erect comparisons. I think I was reading many different comments and somehow confused them because what I remember you saying is definitely not what I'm reading now.

As for the flacid, I was saying that it's typically used, but done in a stretched manner because it's not dependent on arousal since it's just seeing how much skin their is. Some of the studies in this broad look do it that way as it's supposed to be more accurate.

Apologies though that that previous reply was hardly coherent. Not sure what was going on there lol

As a grower myself , going to the gym is worse than cold water lol

14cm that's a big ole floppy donger you got there

You're a Show-er.

We Grow-ers are quite different. My flaccid cock is like ~~5cm~~ 8cm but fully erect it's over 19cm.

How can dicks vary so much? Do show-ers just walk around all day with a chub in their pants? How about after a cool swim or after a challenging workout in cold weather? Theirs dicks never retracts to 1/5th it's erect size? It just flops around at almost full size and gets in the way? That doesn't seem very convenient. I thing growers are a better design.

Here, here! šŸ»

I can't even imagine something like that. Mine grows only 4cm when it gets hard. It must truly be a sight to see yours grow

5 is the smallest I ever get. Sometimes, depending on ambient temp, my clothing, my hormones, it can be double that, around 10cm flaccid.

Bro exact same. Sometimes it’s all short and stubby and I’m embarrassed when I take it out to pee. Then other times it’s hanging out and I’m like ā€œyeah, damn straightā€

Subsequent measuring determined that it's more like between 8 - 12cm flaccid.

As someone else who is a grower.

It was REALLY funny being a teenager and being in the moment with some of my first GF's and when things started moving past 2nd base there as a "WTF where did this come from!?" moment.

It was always fun to get to see the gears in their head turn as you explain what a show-er and a grow-er are.

Totally anecdotal but in my experiences it seems like most guys are show-ers? at least that's what I've gathered from reactions.

Most guys are hard by the time their partner is touching them.

good for them?

They are responding to your anecdote. Most women don't know about growers and showers because the guys they were with were already hard by the time they touched them.

Now I'm interested in the show-er versus grow-er distribution

It was a sight to behold during puberty and growing into my adult body, but it whatever now. The weird part is dropping trunks in the shower after swimming and seeing so many people who must be show-ers. Not that I’m pecker checking, but you can’t go without seeing at least 1 dick in the showers, especially with older guys who just carry on conversations butt ass naked like they’re at a bar or golf course lol. Anyways, I guess the bias in my head was that the show-ers must grow as much as I do, but I guess that really isn’t the case

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I honestly have zero issue with providing proof.

Edit: turns out my smallest flaccid size is more like 8cm šŸ™ƒ can't be trusting the old eyeballs on measurements

He’s not lying, very possible.

Bruh. I am not even 14cms when erect lmao

Well, at least yours probably works, despite the size mine doesn't half the time due to some bad experiences in the past šŸ™ƒ

Bruh your dick flaccid is the same length as mine erect.

Shit if mine was that big flaccid I'd set a world record erect.

Stretched flaccid or unstretched?

I always give mine a quick stretch in the locker room before disrobing. Easily doubles the length if it's being shy.

Unstretched, the other option doesn't seem useful

Lol same, which is exactly what makes me think these averages have to be skewed downward in some way or another

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just think dirty stuff before then change your clothes rock hard in front of other dudes, that way you won't be embarrassed at all!

My husband is the opposite.

Tiny flaccid, secretly hung like a horse when hard. šŸ¤«šŸ˜

It's funny though, he has huge balls that are always in his way and he's always annoyed by, so he's glad that his dick gets out of the way when he doesn't need it, but at the same time he also still wishes it was huge when soft? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø Go figure.

That must be really handy for him! In some toilet designs the tip of my dick touches the inside wall of the toilet when I sit and I hate it.

And I imagine it must be a nice surprise effect

He touches the inside or the water if he has to try and pee with morning wood or whatever.

Lol

So gross.

But yeah, it's a great surprise.

He sits to pee in the morning when he has a boner??

I sit to pee when I have a boner because when mine gets hard it sticks straight the hell up in the air. So I either have to sit down and scoot back on the seat then push it down; or I have to do this weird stance above the toilet to get it to point down enough without feeling like it's going to break.

I mean sometimes he'll pee in the shower if the shower is free and he's taking a shower.

I mean, if it's pointing straight up, what's he supposed to do, a handstand?

Lol

Look, I'm not normally in charge of figuring out how to handle it, and I figure he knows what he's doing.

šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

Plenty of us do. If I try when hard there's a decent chance I'm gonna get a renegade stream and the last thing I want to do in the morning is clean up piss off the bathroom floor. I just prepare myself and make sure it's pointed down so I don't touch the seat.

Granted I try to only do this at home because I have an older toilet with a somewhat deep bowl. Great for this situation, sucks for shit backsplash though.

Sometimes by the time you sit, the peepee touches the bowl which causes shrinkage of the wood anyway, and within a few seconds I’m able to pee.

I sit down to pee every time.

Presentation is important lol. Say you’re at a nude beach. I’m a grower myself and have been more than a few times. It’s whatever to me because I’m quite happy with my erect size but you will see some meaty hogs. You can’t just go around getting erect at a nude beach to prove you grow. It’s also easy to assume that everyone else must also be growers who grow as much as you do, so when you look comparatively smaller when flaccid it’s easy to imagine why your husband would wish for that. Just my two cents. Same goes for showers. I’m not there to impress the other naked dudes, and like I said -I’m confident in my size so I’ll drop the trunks no problem, but it’s an impression you get when you see so many show-ers

Second time I’ve used showers 🚿 as a reference. Having to hyphenate show—er to separate the two takes some work haha.

Same here, I've to but my balls down one leg of my pants and my pecker down the other. If I was a show-er I'd never be able to walk.

What's the comparative hard size?

14cm flaccid 18cm hard. I didn't bother to check the girth

this always intrigues me - growers and showers really "inflate" differently.

Sigh… unzips

there's no way I'm 97th percentile. this is definitely too generous. Probably some weird methodology

Were you in Metric vs Imperial?

On the ā€œfull calculatorā€ they have a stretched length. How barbaric, I love it.

Thanks.. I hate it:(

OK CM not Inches.

6... You have a Micropenis

Wow, I wasn’t expecting this to be an ego boost … but here I am. Sweet.

I'm so incredibly annoyed by these numbers, but it explains why I've had several happy girlfriends while simultaneously getting made fun of in every high school shower.

"In a room of 1000 guys, 997 would be bigger than you" for flaccid

"In a room of 1000 guys, 12 would be bigger than you" for erect

I'm at 98% for length and 17% for flaccid so I feel you on that

Top 97.46% lets go

Top 99.99. This things are bullshit, everyone beat it

Bruh, change to cm

1/10000 things happen 100 time per million, not that rare

You literally have you penis size in your bio. Don’t act like you don’t know that you’re way above average

Stop it! That calculator is boosting my ego.

Feeling preeetty good about myself now, you added to your legacy.

Just found out im the grower in the shower vs grower joke haha

Damn. ā€œIn a room of 1000 guys, 0 would be bigger than you.ā€ Thats fr a confidence booster

Like you were unaware lol but I was arguing that, let’s say, you may be in a ā€œroomā€ that greatly deviates from average for a variety of reasons. There’s always someone bigger tho too

as a gay guy i can't imagine this is truly representative of most men i've seen naked. everyone would be in the 99% percentile (?)

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How about your EQ next? Bet that one isnā€˜t as high though ;)

Why wouldn't you measure the thickest part? That's the part she's going to feel the most as you move.

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Yeah, my girth is bigger in one part that way too. Basically the shape of my right hand. I always try to use my left these days but it's too late.

So... hypothetically speaking... what does the orange area on the Chart area actually mean? I guess I don't follow it what it's illustrating and the %s below. The Full Calculator is pretty self explanitory but I don't get the Chart section.

Pleasantly surprised to find I am longer than I thought using this site's measuring methodology. Can't remember if I've lost weight since I last checked or what.

This site is going to blow up in the next 24 hours

Whoaaa Christmas came early

came early

Just because it's big doesn't necessarily mean it works correctly.

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IDK. I think he was just joking. I didn't perceive it as mean.

I can't tell if you're joking or not but it made me laugh either way.

(joking) ;P Glad you had a laugh. :)

This is about length, not duration.

Duration average would be 4

Pumps or seconds?

Or pumps per second?

Might start a fire.

I heard it's more around 5

They say it's about Garth. Who's Garth?

I never understood the problems with duration, can't you kinda just choose when you wanna nut? I usually go for 8-10 minutes then just decide to do it

Oh that naughty old elf must be one mean bastard to give us this so early

No he was just getting ahead so he could act in another movie for 2 mil. Now that's his rate, and they have to pay it, even if he does a bad job

Unprofessional buillshit. That's why no one watches AOL blast.

Don't mention Christmas or that he does it at all.

Does this count as what I get for Christmas as my gift?

Because I didn’t ask for thaaaaat…

Ok looks like the penis chart has gotten everybody a little too excited…

But Santa brought it here for us, with Rudolph!

i know that

im not stupid

im smarter than you!

Thank you - was hoping someone had written this

I just watched this episode the other day. Fucking love that show lol.

He has seen every cock on the planet.

Santa himself brought this here

WITH RUDOLPH,

And now it’s causing a fight!??

Oooo that naughty old elf must be one mean bastard to give us this so early!

Christmas bringing it to the ho's

sorry, that was just me

I think I've seen that one before šŸ¤” Link?

Finally made her cum more than once a year? Good job, you!

My name isn't Christmas, but I've responded to worse

I feel like all of the idiots on SP from the Pokemon episode

That’s not the only thing that came early

weeps in premature ejaculation

I’m actually surprised that men and women’s perceived means are so close together.

I suspect it’s similar to height. Anecdotally, I’ve come to the realization that many women think 6 ft is the average height. This seems to be a result of how many men claim to be that tall

Similarly, women don’t have their own dicks to measure so they have to go by what people tell them

Me sitting here at 5'5" šŸ™ƒ ain't no one buying that I'm 6'!

Damn bro your dick is 5’5ā€!!!

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Mothafucka peeking over that dick

They call him, Sequoia

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That’s a big tuna can

A sitting height of 5'5" is collosal!

But I bet you say 5’8ā€ when someone is asking. That is the problem

I’m 5’2ā€ I’d love me a 5’5ā€ king

As a 5'4" dude I've learned its best to own your height, you go around fudging your height by 3 inches and get caught its over for you right that moment.

Hell yeah my dude!

being 6'6'' even a penis above the mean looks kinda small in the mirror

6ā€˜2 and yup it does… even worse if you’re a grower and not a shower.

5 feet and 5 inches. lord have mercy

I dunno. I’m 5’10ā€ and have had women tell me I’m below average height. (By just looking at me).
I don’t think it’s a stretch to suggest men can also suffer from unreasonable body standards.

I'm 5'9" and I've had short girls think I'm 6'

Gals under about 5'6" tend to be wildly off in their estimates, in my experience.

As a short girl I think is because everyone looks tall to us

I believe 5’9-5’10 is average

For global average I think it’s 5’ 8ā€

In the Netherlands, it's below average. In Laos, it's well above average.

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Average male height is 5’9

Source: CDC

Where are you getting 5'6? That is the average in places like Mexico and Sudan.

https://www.medicinenet.com/height_men/article.htm

Perhaps a global vs national variation

Depending on where you live, they're objectively wrong about that...

I don’t think it’s a stretch to suggest men can also suffer from unreasonable body standards.

Nobody said anything about women's unreasonable body standards, let along suggested that only women suffer from unreasonable body standards.

As a guy who’s 6’1 I tell girls im 5’11 just to keep the 5’11 guys in check

Personally I'm a fan of telling people I'm 5'13.

4'30 gang rise up!

Now that’s some damn Tegridy!

Has a girlfriend. When he’s single he’s ā€œ6’3ā€ ā€œ

I'm 5'11" and I love denying people who tell me I'm 6', especially the other guys who are also 5'11". It's incredible how much some dudes care about a <2% difference in height.

I'd be curious to see a height/penis size comparison.

I've always thought that an average dick on a short dude would be perceived as bigger than on someone who's 6'6"

Some studies have a "percent of height" measure. There's a good Italian study with this data point, although it uses stretched flaccid length. This is fine, since stretched flaccid length has been shown to correlate extremely well with erect length (they're not equivalent, but they are proportional), but it does require you to adjust your perceptions.

many women think 6 ft is the average height

It is, if you live in the Netherlands.

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They evolved with wooden shoes to help float.

Or are descended entirely from them.

Yup. 184 cm, or 6' 0.44".

Wouldn’t that lead to women having a larger impression (perceived mean) than men, if they only go off what men say they have?

Well technically women have had more chances to measure more dicks than men.

Exactly. I had a FWB that complimented me quite nicely, I was kinda surprised, and she's like the dick you see and the dick i see is a different data set. We both have seen the guys who whip it out, they tend to be the bigger guys proud of their junk. Same with porn, its a visual medium that requires exceptional size to get the shots they need.

The reality from dating A LOT of guys over 15 years (her words not mine) is there's plenty of variation. Some guys really are growers but gotta know when to show em and when to holdem. Confidence is sexy, confidently stupid is not.

Yea its so fucking weird being quite a bit under 6ft but taller than a lot of people claiming six feet.

And the most popular in-style shoes nowadays easily gives most dudes another 2-3 inches.

Well, that is about the average male height in my country.

This reminds me of a dirty joke my aunt was fond of about women being bad at measuring things because they’ve always been lied to about what six inches looks like…

Straight woman here. I’ve def seen more dicks in real life than a straight man. I don’t need anyone to tell me about dick size.

Exactly did everyone say a number or did they actually measure out what they think 6 in is.

Except in the Netherlands where the average height for a guy is 6ft.

On a similar note, every woman has always assumed that I am taller than I am and my penis is is longer than it is.

I assume this is because so many dudes are padding their numbers.

What do you think the difference would have been

Internet had be believe girl dick inches were about 1 inch longer than real dick inches.

I think they are right about the number on paper, but like with many people, they have trouble actually conceptualizing what that number actually looks like in the world, even with something familiar like inches on a ruler. I've talked to many female friends who have said they wanted someone with a 8" penis then after having one, explained how large or uncomfortable it really is, and suddenly realizing that an average size is more than satisfactory. And that the men they thought had "small" penises were really quite normal. But like this chart shows, even the smallest porn penises are larger than 85% of ordinary ones. So nobody really has good information.

Idk, most futas are PACKING, that could still be true

I'm actually surprised men are still comparing dick size instead of trying to figure out what to do with it. It's not about size, guys. Some of my best sex has been with guys with average or small dicks.

Men are worried about dick size because...drum roll...women are worried about dick size lol

I'm kinda surprised men overestimated the average size more than women. I would assume men have seen more penises in real life than women because of locker rooms and public showers. Plus, having one themselves.

You have to figure that most dudes walking around the locker room aren't erect. Flaccid penis size isn't an indicator for erect size, typically.

In fact 80% of men are growers and only 20% are showers

Most people aren’t hard in locker rooms and public showers.

This ā€œmostā€ scares me.

Meh, sometimes you can't help it. Especially if you're surrounded by hot guys

Username checks out, you got a cave you like to go to?

It's caused by insecurity a lot of the time. Your friend says he has 6 inches or longer, and you feel the need to say the same. Eventually, it gets drilled into every guy's head. Plus, even if you see some in locker rooms and showers they're probably not erect and perspective and shit can make it hard to mentally measure, I'd assume.

Not to mention the huge difference between growers and showers. One guy might think a guy has a big penis because when flaccid it's relatively large, however, it's size might not increase that much when erect.

Most men aren’t keen at looking or showing their penis in locker rooms and penises in lockers rooms are usually flaccid.

I don’t think it’s very surprising men estimated higher since men are known to watch more porn and would therefore see bigger penises on average than women would see from various partners and such.

Yeah, that seems reasonable to me - most straight guys would only really see erections (on other people) in porn, and would hence mainly be exposed to that 1%.

Most guys probably have only seen their own erect penis in real life. Women generally have a lot more chances to see hard dicks IRL because of dating, excluding gay men and women of course.

Women on the other hand likely never measure a penis themselves and only get told the (exaggerated) numbers by men

As a fairly average woman (like unashamed about sex for fun, but not an influencer with gucci ideals), I can say fairly confidently, we women have seen some dick. Enough to know what we usually get, and where the outliers are.

I'm really curious if the women's perceived mean is the actual mean of penises they've encountered.

I surprised that women's perceived mean is much larger than the real mean. It indicates that women think the average penis is larger than most of them actually are. That's got to be disappointing for everyone, if that's what they're going for.

I can also tell you most people are awful at telling size by eye.

everybody just rounds up to 6

i'm more surprised that the men's perceived means is higher than womans, considering we live with one 24/7, so presumably we know better.

All the 9th graders on subreddit ā€œGood thing I’m in the 1% šŸ¤£ā€

The graph doesn’t go far enough to the right to represent me!

/s

Yeah when I said I was a 5 I thought we were measuring in feet

Saw you starring in an episode of The Boys

In case you were wondering, a 5' long penis (assuming standard circumference) requires about a third of the blood in your body to get erect. So if you've been suffering from blackouts, that's probably why.

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A classic! I see you’re a man of culture

I thought it was cm...

2 inches…from the ground

Strange to see the exact came comment on a post about dicks and an r/PoliticalCompassMemes post

Oh buddy, we certainly would've believed you without that /s.

Maybe they mean the other 1%

Right, if anything it's the 1% on the other side of the spectrum

It's interesting to note that the worse porn stars are still longer than the average man.

Ehhhhh, there are some niche porn sectors out there. But yes, the graph clearly states what you're saying. And to be honest, porn wouldn't be successful if it were composef of John and Jane Doe muffin top fucking with no rhyme or reason

When you're hung like an elevator button, you need to be proud of something

I'm in the other 1%

Built like a Roman sculpture? No worry bro, that still means you have the biceps of a Greek god šŸ’Ŗ

Good thing i’m in the 0.1%

Pics or didn't happ- oh. oh no.

When I was in 9th grade I was hoping I would grow out of the 1% šŸ˜…

Which side. It’s a two sided distribution.

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I’ve never heard that.

I’ve always been told 5.5 inches is average. Of course most people don’t actually know what 5-6 inches looks like. My girlfriend says that the 5 inch bug we saw was HUGE but 5 inches is suddenly small when it comes to my 5 inch, oh never mind

wanna talk bro? you good?

Well apparently there always is a couple inches still inside you when you’re hard. So, In theory if I pull hard enough…

Kidding

A trimmed bush makes your deck look bigger

That’s a Seneca quote right?

Nah, this is pretty accurate from the various studies that exist on the topic. Average is definitely not 6.5, not sure where you heard that.

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There are actually studies that do that. Height is not relevant, but countries can matter. Too lazy to look them up, but I’ve seen some.

That said, even the variance they do observe is not nearly as much as you have in mind. Average is still below 6 inches in every study I have seen posted anytime one of these threads come up.

Truth is, most guys lie and generally aren’t willing to admit they have below 6 inches. If you were going off just what you heard from other guys or something then your perception would make sense even though it’s not accurate.

Nope the data is sound you're bigger than most.

I’m curious how big your hands are?

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Top 1% on this graph is 18cm

The Netherlands is also known as the tallest country on earth. It would probably make for a better study to find the average penis size based on height.

P.S. nice dick bro šŸ‘

My thought precisely lol. Literally every kid from middle school was talking about their 12 inches

I mean, back in 9th grade half the guys in my class were 6'2 or above, so who knows...

Those normal distributions are appropriate phallic

Is that a Gaussian distribution or are you just happy to see me?

that bump at the end bothers me.

You win Reddit today šŸ… šŸŽ– šŸ„‡

To be fair, most distributions are phallic

To be fair, most things I see become phallic if I look long and hard enough

To be fairrrr

To be fair!

Toooo beeee fay-ahr!

Wayne approves

That’s a Texas sized 10-4.

šŸ–To be faaaaaaaaaiiiiiirrrrrrrrr ✊

To be faaiiirrrrrrrr

Bellend curve.

Uniform distribution

This is because of sexism. If more women were in math, men and women doing math would result in distributions being very even, without these protuberances.

Anything is phallic if you are horny enough.

I’ll be distributing my phallus to your mom tonight.

If your phallus looks like a bimodal distribution, you should see a doctor.

Give it to me in small words pls. Can I use pic to measure dick?

Those normal distributions have a really *puts on sunglasses* long tail.

My favorite part of the data is that you can see clear selection biases in the porn star data. The average is skewed slightly larger, but the there are bumps where unusual size is such a standout that it beats whatever other criteria they're looking for.

Anyone want to try explain why the pornstar distribution has that c&b shape?

It’s not a tumor.

I'm curious if this was asking them for a number in inches, or asking them to gesture what they would expect to be average and then measuring that. (What I envision to be an inch and what is actually an inch varies wildly and wonder if stated expected length and actual expected length could be off by more than the 1 inch difference, EG: person says 6 inches, a 6 inch model is shown, they respond with that is way off from what I expected)

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Here's to hoping they over estimated and the mean is actually lower then shown.

One study (not sure if the one cited) had women pick out non-skin toned dildos for ā€œone night standsā€ and ā€œlong term partnersā€ without any information.

My memory is they often over stated the length they preferred. E.g. they’d say they prefer a 7ā€, then pick out a 6ā€ for a long term partner when it wasn’t labeled. Though the single-time partner length was usually slightly longer.

The ā€œBoyfriend dickā€ phenomenon

Exactly! The ā€œthis was fun when we were drunk on our 1st date, but now that we’re married my cervix isn’t a fanā€ phenomenon.

Would that mean that it’s more pleasure able even if only for one date?

I'm willing to be a little bruised one night a week for the excitement, but no-one wants to be bruised every night of the week?

Can only speak for myself, but it's kinda like a muscle car: objectively it's pretty uncomfortable, but makes me feel cool because look at it! Great for a weekend ride, less ideal for a regular. Last bf was not far from porn star mean and it was more of an inconvenience than anything else - fortunately he is aware and willing to work around it.

They want fo fuck the top man but don't want a top man in a relationship as he makes them insecure.

That's... That's not how any of this works

How would a big dick make a woman feel insecure? Is this hypothetical woman worried that her clit isn't big enough to match? What is your thought process here exactly?

Probably thinks that all the women are clamoring for that big dick and therefore women dating guys with big dicks are constantly worried that big dick dude has all the options all the time somehow.

Clearly just some jaded kid that has trouble finding partners.

Besides, I’m pretty sure men get insecure when women have bigger dicks than them.

Just neck beard things.

Think it has more do with 7" being fun for one night but being painful long term if you're having sex regularly

No its saying women think 6 inches is 7. They claim to want a 7 inch dick but the dick they chose was actually only 6 inches.

But it’s more pleasurable for one night?

Exciting maybe

It's not. I have no idea what these people are talking about.

Na, don't think so.

Because only "top" men have big dicks? And big dicks make women insecure? What?

Yes, From OP's mom's collection.

Did they let them keep it after choosing? Asking for a friend

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You got to really know them to tell them apart.

I believe the plural term is a bouquet of dildos. And if it isn't, it should be.

This is created from a data aggregation study, so methodologies likely vary. The one study whose methodology I read sent out paper templates and instructions so they got back (in theory) actual lengths/girths marked on paper.

Let's get out the rulers boys! Who's with me?

Go on any social media dating app regardless which one it is, I can almost guarantee you'll find atleast one or two guys claiming to be 8.5 to 12inches long followed by bunch of dumb emojis, 100 and fire emojis, and all caps. Then you'll also find probably one female on there saying guys who're 12 inches or more only, followed by emojis

porn uses the same camera tricks as any other movie. the girls they use are shorter and it makes penises look larger

It’s the same reason Ian McKellen looked absolutely hung like a horse next to Elijah Wood in LotR

Oh yeah that one scene where they started sword fighting. Seemed a little bizarre at the time but it really ties their chemistry together.

I could carry it for a while Share the load

Lord of the G Strings. I saw that one.

The men are also shorter than the average. Ever wonder why most porn has people of very similar height? Short girls and short guys, make big dicks look massive and make everything from tits to ass look bigger than reality as well. Not including any of the angles the camera does. But a 7 inch dick on a 6+ foot tall guy would look average if you had nothing for scale but a 7 inch dick on a 5'6-5'8 skinnier than average guy next to a 5'2 -5'4 girl is gonna look as big as a forearm. This isn't true for all porn obviously but it's still fun to think about all the wierd tricks they use to really sell it.

A few years ago a cameraman(?) that's working in porn sector said the same thing in an AMA. So I think you might be right.

years ago I read some porn stats and the girl height was one of them and it was shorter and average

That and at this point they're significantly skinnier than the average woman too, and male pornstars are certainly skinnier than the average dude and get a bit extra at least visible length out of that too.

Despite many getting breast implants, the average breast size for a pornstar is smaller than average because they're thinner. But that's more of an effect of Americans overall being quite fat than pornstars being super skinny. They're not like runway models who are really skinny.

But that's more of an effect of Americans overall being quite fat than pornstars being super skinny. They're not like runway models who are really skinny.

Yup for sure. Obesity just keeps getting more and more rampant. There are actually much more average, overweight and even obese pornstars vs. skinny ones these days vs. the 90s and before, but still the average pornstar is much skinnier than the average American.

To be fair, the average American woman is 170 pounds. Which is about 5 pounds less than me and I’m a 6’2 soon to be middle aged man with an office job in decidedly mediocre shape.

America is super fat.

Lowkey hate that normal sized girls for, say, the 50s, are considered skinny in comparison to the average women (and men) today.

People need to start losing weight, late 20s dating market out here is rough šŸ˜‘

r/measuredpornstars shows the actual size of famous porn stars. Extremely NSFW obviously.

I actually heard porn actresses were just cats taped together.

Nah that's horses

I wasn't sure if anyone would understand the reference!

Nah they're 2 dwarfs stacked in a raincoat.

Not in the porn I watch - that's just one dwarf. I mean, sometimes it's more than one, but when they are stacked, it's almost never in a raincoat.

Vincent Adultfilmstarman?

I need to go to the fuck factory. To do the business time.

This is true. I once taped several strays together and they went into the industry calling themselves "Mia Khalifa"

Shane Dawson could only wish

Can confirm.

"Oh... Oh... Ooooohh nooooo...."

^(whispers almost inaudibly)

"What... What have I done..?"

I mean too an extent sure, my forearm also looks big when compared to a 5ft tall woman, but then you bring in the porn star and it's still oike "what the shit that dudes dick as big as that other dudes forearm"

Also angles.

I'm pretty average but if I hold my cock in a certain way against my or my wife's forearm with the right angle, it can look almost same girth.

Trust me, it ain't.

My dick is the same girth as my wrists, but I happen to have small wrists and I'm just a little over average in dick dimensions.

It's also why McDonald's hires models with tiny hands for their commercials.

That's only a part of it, I'd say the wide angle lens close to the dick is doing the heavy lifting.

Porn also uses a lot of prosthetic penises. It's really obvious sometimes, but some of the prosthetics these days are actually pretty convincing.

Plus even many pornstars are slightly exaggerating their size.

So they use very tall girls in Asian porn?

I’ve heard Mandingo is a tiny man with an 8 inch penis.

OP's mom isn't that short.

Shorter dudes also

Porn has me all fucked up I guess, cause apparently I am just slightly smaller than the porn star mean yet I've always felt I was on the small side.

Honestly this made me feel better about my 5 inch penis

You got a mean Dick.

God. Dammit. That is good.

It's ok, dude.

You talk to a sexologist and they'll tell you that you're fine. Do not let an industry tell you how to behave, science instead is more reliable.

Vaginas have more nerv endings in the first section, that's why girth can be a more relevant factor.

Also, vaginas are elastics so they can adapt.

Finally, commujnication is key: listen to your partner and you'll hit the spot, pun intended.

Thanks . Luckily I have a great wife who doesn’t give a shit about my size šŸ‘šŸ¼

So glad to hear that :) I'm sure you're both wonderful!

Getting old sucks

Wait what?? It’s going to get smaller?

Bruh I can’t afford to lose any meat wtf?!

You're gonna want to take a sit young man.

It can happen to a minor extent in your 60s and 70s, yes.

Feel proud of it. No one cares. 1% is nothing special, it's not like anyone even sees it.

Source 1% only slept with 1 girl.

Have to put a zero in front of that.

Hard or soft 5? Game changer

Soft !? I wish. 5 inches even when hard as granite .

I've met guys who were true showers: 5" soft, 6" hard. Soft size means very little

Love the username šŸ‘

For pornstars, you see sizeable dips in sizes just under whole numbers. Lots of guys at or a little over 7in, but significantly fewer are rocking 6.8 or 6.9 inchers. Makes me think the pornstar lengths were self-reported, or maybe gathered from the actors' websites or resumes, hehe.

That's probably accurate.

Indeed, I'd go so far as to say that the precision of reporting for pornstar length is only to the quarter inch. As evidence for this, I offer the following observations:

  • There is a plateau/point of inflection at 6.5"
  • The Mode appears to be at 7.25"
  • There is a local maximum at 8"
  • There is a local minimum at 7.75"
  • There is another local minimum around 8.75"
  • There is a local maximum near (slightly above) 9"

Based on that, and where the deviations from a smooth curve are, I would argue that there are a few places where the reporting is "fudged," generally to be slightly longer than an accurate (to the quarter inch) measurement would be:

  • those in the 6.25"-6.375" range inappropriately round to 6.5"
  • those in the 6.5"-6.625" range inappropriately round to 6.75"
  • those in the 7.5"-7.75" range may be rounding down to the nearest half inch^(1)
  • those in the 7.75"-8" range inappropriately round to 8"^(1)
  • those in the 8.5-9" range are inappropriately rounding to 9"

^(1. I'm guessing that the rounding to the nearest half inch is done because they think it might seem desperate to quibble over a quarter inch when you're over 7.5" to begin with, and being >7.5", they aren't likely to have such an insecurity. Plus, "Seven and a half" or "eight" roll off the tongue)^^2 ^(way better than "seven and three quarters")

^(2. yes, that was intentional)

Stats are fun.

So are you like a version of Marty McFly that went too far to the future and took Paul's place in the prophesy? Cus that sounds like an exciting, laugh-filled adventure that I'd take the whole family to see.

I'd tell you to read the papers OP linked, but I'm not willing to do that either.

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That's what I tell my seamstress

Why do they seem stressed?

How else are you going to hold that end of the tape measure.

"From the center of the anus, to just beyond the tip."

Butthole to bellybutton, just like grandma taught me.

Keep changing the average all you want, scientists, I’m still and always will be, below it.

New average penis size: -5 inches.

This hasn't helped my self esteem

Right? 3in gang representin

Throw as many charts at me as you can, i will still have my m&m's mini tube lol

Real mean: 13.1cm
Women's perceived mean: 14.7cm
Men's perceived mean: 15.24cm
Porn star mean: 18cm

For my metric mates.

I feel so much more....adequate

Is this adjusted penis size?

Gotta account for all the recent inflation.

Yea, what about the yaw?

Is measuring after a warm shower fair? What ambient temperature do you measure it when your flaccid? Seriously. At least I’m above average on one thing..

They always forget yaw.

Also known as TMI.

what is "adjusted" penis size?

your adjusted penis length can be calculated by the formula [(length x diameter) + (Weight / Girth)] / Angle of Tip ^2

Often shortened to E=MC^(2)

Y=MCa is also acceptable

You forgot you have to take all of that and multiple it by (Attractiveness / 5)

Where attractiveness is a 1-10 value ranking your looks.

You forgot to add the bank account multiple.

South Park is great!

Gotta adjust for inflation

Lmfaoooooooooo this was way funnier than it should have been.

Wait. This means 91% of dude are compensating because they think they have a smaller than average dick. This explains a lot about society.

It also says there's no correlation with race. Sus

There has never been a correlation found for bigger or smaller. It’s all myths pushed by the porn industry to create niches and fetishization

If it's a myth why are condoms smaller in Asia? Average size in a typical Chinese or Japanese supermarket is a girth of 48-52mm. If you need to buy a 56mm condom you end up buying them online. 56mm is the standard size in the UK. I imagine this is not a number that most people pay attention to and is not a factor in advertising. It's written in small text on the specifications.

Could it be correlation with height? I mean, shorter people will have overall smaller body parts than taller people. People in Asia are smaller on average than people elsewhere.

To be clear: There has never been a correlation found because they have never been able to do a scientifically verified and peer reviewed study with a large enough test group. Not because the correlation between race and penis size doesn’t exist.

Most sources (although not peer reviewed) do suggest that black men have larger penis sizes on average.

https://www.penissizes.org/average-penis-size-ethnicity-race-and-country

So your citing hearsay data to proof a point...lol website also sells the "solution"

Also,

https://np.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/vxewg2/oc_penis_size_perceptions_and_porn_most_people/ifvxwr9/

I’m going to need a much better source that doesn’t have survey monkey from 2006 as a reference for a part of the data lol

https://np.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/vxewg2/oc_penis_size_perceptions_and_porn_most_people/ifvxwr9/

This was self reported, not measured. Men aren't known for being honest about their dick sizes, and different cultures will have different values that make people exaggerate more, less, or even underreport. Like the ancient Greeks thought large penises meant barbarian, so they idealized smaller dicks.

All men lie about their dick size. Curious you’re suggesting black men lie more.

According to this map Ecuadorians lie the most, and Germans more than Nigerians. Wikipedia linked a study where they actually measured and its the same worldwide. I think South Korea was .02 inches above Nigeria or Tanzania, but that's so small it's basically noise.

Those sample sizes are way too small to be taken seriously.

I would never overestimate my length, said by most guys on Reddit

No reason to overestimate when you know the real number and just lie about it instead.

Does this chart account for inflation?

Yes. Shrinkflation.

I WAS IN THE POOL

LPT: Hey fat boys, if you get yourself to a healthy BMI you grow your dick by losing fat around it!

This is true, I lost 60 lbs, now have big dick. But the truth is, the big dick was always there in me.

So you're saying there could be a big dick in me right now. At this very moment.

Yes, and if not now, soon. Very soon.

The real big dicks were the friends we had inside of us all along

it depends on which way you put it

So by being overweight, you could say guys are kinda fucking theirself then, I guess?

This is not the thread I expected wholesome comments in.

That's some real wizard of Oz shit.

"Where I come from people have dicks no bigger than yours, but what they do have a BMI of 25"

Honestly even if you’re a healthy weight, getting to beach lean (abs) actually gives you a noticable amount too.

There's a big dick inside all of us.

Wait.

When I moved back to the city my family was in I went to their new doctor since I didnt have one in the area. One of the very first things he said to me while reviewing my information was that if I lost weight my dick would be bigger. He didn't wait for me to react or respond, just said it and moved on to the next fact to go over. I still cant tell if he was laughing inside about perfectly deadpanning it or not.

He wasn't wrong was the thing, I had gained a lot of weight and my dick looked smaller even to me. This LPT is for real.

I mean for a man that’s probably the easiest way to motivate them to lose weight if they are overweight.

ā€œLose weight to live longerā€ who cares ā€œlose weight to look betterā€ who cares ā€œlose weight to have more energyā€ who cares ā€œlose weight to make your dick biggerā€ im listening doc

Hey, I’m skinny what do I do?

reading some of the reddit comments, where people tell everyone they have a small cock, i would have expected that there is also a giant spike at the 1-2 inch portion of this graph.

Maybe redditors have small cocks

Thats what im implying

Who would have thought porn didn’t represent the average? It’s like watching F1 thinking ā€œmost cars go that fastā€

Are you saying that most cars don't go 0-100-0(mph) in under 5 seconds? What kind of jalopy rust-bucket are you driving sir or madam?

A 6.5" one

Ok but imagine if most people kept their car in their garage, or only drew them on private roads away from others' eyes. Let's say society in general scowls upon driving your car in public, or even discussing your car's average speed with your friends or co-workers. The only cars you'd have witnessed the performance of would be your own car and the formula 1 cars that you can see on the internet using incognito mode.

Wouldn't you think the lack of readily available data would skew your perspective?

And then you date a woman who's only been in formula cars,then rides in yours...it's gonna be slow to her

If your above average, IME she has to go slow to avoid discomfort or outright pain. Its all fun sharing a number until your woman has to tell you she has to do the thrusting/work/control the pacs to avoid literal pain.

Sure. But then you are very naĆÆve. That would aslo mean that when you watch a downhill ski race, you expect everyone skiing to bomb down a run in 120mph. People who run do 100m on average in 10 seconds. And so on, and so on.

hulk snapped us back, Iron-Man saved us from Thanos. You dial 555-1234, ā€œHello, is Indiana Jones there?ā€

But then you are very naĆÆve.

But... obviously this is true. Everyone's naive about this topic because it's a taboo subject. The private "research" people do is skewed by its very nature. The information you're given is from actors at the end of the spectrum and friends who brag (lie).

That would aslo mean that when you watch a downhill ski race, you expect everyone skiing to bomb down a run in 120mph. People who run do 100m on average in 10 seconds. And so on, and so on.

I can easily go watch a group of normal people ski - and most people do go watch normal people ski. You can watch kids ski. In ski school, I compared my performance to others quite often - and I observe thousands of people when I go skiiing. This isn't an equivalent analogy.

Skiing isn't a taboo subject, and you can and do watch normal people do it.

But you can easily watch normal people fuck online too. There’s plenty of amateur, and I mean real amateur porn online.

It’s just about as easy to find as pro porn.

At this point you're arguing that something should be common accepted fact when pretty much everyone's saying "it's not".

Exactly. That’s my point. That’s it’s neither hard to figure out ,nor to find out that your (your as in the gereral conception and not specifically you) perception is incorrect. Yet no one seems to figure it out.

Oh - i mean you seem to not be accepting the "it's not" part.

Well in a sense I don’t. People shouldn’t do it if they only had a broader view.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that people probably think about sex way more than they do downhill skiing. But they can instantly recognize from watching a downhill ski racer that ā€œthat’s a special talent, I know most people don’t ski like thatā€ but as soon as they watch porn it’s ā€œyep, everyone expect me fucks like thatā€

I'm diverging from the car metaphor for a second back to the original point. I think it's not naivety, it's public perception that is the issue.

Look at aspiring artists. So many people are comfortable calling decent art bad because they've become so desensitized and surrounded by easy access amazing art. Similarly people do imagine most things to be easier than they are, despite never trying them.

Another issue is how it's not necessarily someone's own naivety but the general consensus on what is "good" and what becomes normalized as if it's average.

Height, hair and shaft size are all things that people have mocked men for when they are in the average. It's strange considering how many people go bald for example. Yet it's very popular to mock and ridicule. Especially frustrating is how all 3 are very much genetic.

With penis size it's similarly framed. Most people don't have tons of sex so porn colors their perception. It skews expectations and it also paints a fantasy.

You should be blowing her mind. You might question why she's not moaning like a porn star. Why isn't she seemingly being utterly destroyed by you? Are you too small? Why aren't you lasting for 30+ minutes?

Public perception is important and most people see totally faked situations. They don't see the time frame between shots, the tricks and the acting in porn.

It preys on fears and delivers a fantasy.

Ok, fine. People expect fucking to be like porn. And I get some people don’t get that it’s fake.

But I don’t get if you are trying to say if it’s a good or bad thing?

I’m saying it’s bad and at least I hope a regular mined person realizes it’s glorified. Are you saying there’s no hope people can realize this?

I think people know it's fake but they don't confront that often. So it normalizes in their mind. It's like slowly expecting amazing dance moves and only being Impressed by the best. Mocking middling people for being terrible while never having danced yourself.

Its easy to critique based off of the very best. Even if that very best is impractical or highly staged.

I think it's a bad thing. It makes many people beat themselves up but it's not easy to logic your way out of. Especially with how much it can hurt to be told you're too short, bald or small to be any good. Even if it's untrue.

It gets reinforced by endless pills, gurus, and even dating profiles. It all feeds into this fear that builds up relentlessly. To the point that even women think you should be x, y and z or you're not worth it.

And that’s my point. It shouldn’t take much to figure out that it’s not the standrad. Yet people in a vast majority seem to do it.

That’s like saying people shouldn’t feel self-conscious but all they see in movies and TV are beautiful actors representing the top 20% of people. It’s normal when that’s your frame of reference.

Well Im sure theres a lot of people whose only exposure to sex, or other penises, is from watching porn. So they may not have a good frame of reference.

Whereas people see regular cars being driven themselves, and have almost certainly ridden in one.

Porn is actually where I got my dick confidence. I'd already had sex before I started watching porn and wondered about my size. Then in college, I took a break from relationships and started watching porn and I was like, "That's considered big? That's basically me."

Before seeing the data I never understood why guys were so self conscious about size. Do people not understand that porn stars are above average?

Then when I saw what an averaged sized penis looked like I understood. I probably would have been self conscious too. Now instead I get to be self conscious about the other areas where I'm below average.

I don’t know. The only thing it does is make you feel like shit. And people who feel like shit are horrible fucks. Rather a plump partner who has no fears getting off than a supermodel concerned about a crooked little toe and go the whole intercourse trying to hide the stub.

Hey at least my car is in the top 1% of 0-60.

Apples to oranges with that example though.

But why? Why are massive penises a thing in porn? I could understand a niche sub-category, but why so common? Are most men secretly a little bit gay?

The spectacular amazes us. Plus It’s probably easier to get multiple angle shots with big dongs.

The spectacular amazes us

Then why don't you get 6'8 dudes, or something else. Penis size is the only thing about a male porn star that isn't average.

I first read through the graph thinking ā€œmeanā€ said ā€œmen.ā€

ā€œReal men are 5.16 inches.ā€

Weirdest part of this is how the population curve doesn't thin out like a gaussian.

Maybe it's time I cracked that ruler out and feel good about myself...

Also there is nothing NSFW about this graph...

Lol so you’re just willing to pull this up at the office?

Just found out I'm 2mm above average

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I mean, the subject matter, and the fact that ā€œpenisā€ is written all over it might just be the thing.

There's a phallic like distribution for the pornstars lol

I think the large size of dildos further impacts the perception of what a normal dick size is as well. Albeit anecdotal, a female friend loves large dicks also has a collection of giant dildos. I can’t help but think I could never match up to her giant dildo collection.

I mean thinking logically, I'd rather have an 8 inch dildo: insert 5 inches and have 3 inches+the base to hold comfortably.

At least for me, I don't put the whole length in, pull it out by the base. You're doing it by yourself, so it's not a fun rhythm. Idk if I'm explaining this right.

Makes total sense. You hold a sword by the hilt, not the blade

What you said makes sense to me. Also I'm worried if I try to put the whole thing in it'll get stuck. I've seen those ER stories. I'm leaving some holding room.

That makes a lot of sense. I didn’t realize that part of it functions as a handle. Here’s hoping to see her in action and to jump in at some point.

Most dildos have an ā€œinsertable lengthā€ most are labeled at 8ā€ total length but only have a usable length of 5-6ā€

Don't worry. She's going to have a real hard time finding anyone to match up to her collection.

I don't know how big you are, but if you're anything bigger than average she'll probably already be happy enough.

Real dicks feel better than dildos, or so I'm told. My gf has plenty of dildos and she still wants to fuck me, so must be doing something right?

sex toys are not human interaction

Similar thing happened to me. Friend who had a crush on asked me to watch her cats while she out of town and told me I could crash at her place and sleep in her bed if necessary (this is when I drank lol). I went to go to sleep in the bed on the first night and she had left a dildo that was twice the length and width of my dick and a Hitachi just laying on the unmade bed. I was like "well, I guess I won't be able to compete with that". Lol

The thing is sex is different from masturbation. If my partner were hung like my collection it would hurt a lot.

How is it different tho? I’m not trying to be weird I swear

Well if it's unattached from a dude it's a lot easier to control and less painful. Also some women just put a dildo in with no movement. Silicone is also a lot different than skin when it comes to friction. It's a lot of factors.

And then what happened

I went and passed put on the couch. Then I got depressed and drank more (I was a real bad drunk in my 20s)

Why length, not width?

sigh time to bring out the tape measure again

Lmao, porn stars bigger than 7 inches round to the closest integer, and the smaller ones round to 6.5

It is really funny to what lengths already well endowed people in this industry go to appear just a little bigger.

How many men are going to measure their penis today?

Well, it is Tuesday…

Way ahead of this post

I just want to know who measured all these penises? And what method did they use to erect them to the measured length? Real question.

If you have to masturbate to get it up, you might not get up as much as the guy who has a female porn star working on it with all her skills.

I’m not proud of my summer job.

Fluffers, amirite?

The fluffer's fluffer

A fluffer nutter, if you will.

Doesn’t pay well, but it’s honest work.

I heard it could pay loads at times

"Research Assistant"

But 20 dollars is 20 dollars, right?

They take pills

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All of them.

There’s so many!!

Pills doesn’t even start tu cut it. It’s not rare for pornstars and strippers to do direct injections on the penis.

Why did they chose pill poppers for the study?

He provided a link to the study, which aggregated several other studies, described the required methodology for inclusion, and provided references. I know some studies they only measure if full erection is achieved, and in some I think they use stretched length, which should be the same.

They use a shop vac to ensure everyone is at full mast.

It’s kinda clever. The tube is clear and has the measurements on it so there’s no hassle with like looking at a dirty mag.

More importantly, do they begin measuring from the rim of the anus?

...probably not.

why would they.. thats not the dong. base of shaft is the rule.

Nah bro its butt to tip.

🤣 there is no way, that would subtract like a whole 1.5 inches from the average. that would mean base of shaft is like 3.5 inches. Im sorry to break it to you but 0 chance they start at the butt

No you measure the potential thrust vector from ass to tip.

I start measuring from between my shoulder blades.

Who? Ask your mom

LPT: Shorter the grass, taller the tree

This upvote is dedicated for the poor guy who fed the data of male pornstars.

I'm going up vote it to all the black guys with average dicks who keep getting profiled by women who think they all have absolute baseball bats in their pants.

Porn damages perceptions. But black guys with average dicks must have a real hard time with the perceptions considering every black dick on screen is huge

Asian guys must feel like gods breaking stereotypes just by being average

Probably wasn't a guy. But who knows.

He was already scrubbing data for hot dog or not a hot dog.

:Crosses fingers:

Data = Erect or flaccid?

No way in hell dudes are walking around with 7 inch flaccid cocks.

Speak for yourself

No way in hell I'm walking around with 7 inch flaccid cocks.

Not with that attitude

I'm walking around with 7 inch flaccid cocks.

Now with something else

I'm walking around with 7 inc passive stonks.

What else would a person wish for?

Did you take them from the 7 dwarves?

some of them, yes

Exactly, I am definitely walking around with a 7inch flaccid.

17lbs of swinging meat, baby.

I've seen bigger than 7 flaccid. I've got a good sized dick as a measure of comparison... But in combat training ...a dude was walking into the shower and he looked like he had fucking snuffleupagus in a head lock with his thighs

A very small amount are

Dr Dre brags of his "9 inches of limp dick" in on of his songs.

Yeah there are. I am. It’s hassle more often than not but obviously not something to generally complain about.

Hopefully you're joking... do you know how debilitating it would be to have an 8 inch flaccid penis?

That was my question too. Although flaccid definitely depends on the temp more than erect

It's gotta be flaccid or the numbers don't make sense.

Did you think the measurements were in cm? Because the numbers absolutely make sense.

Girth is what it's worth.

Let's see this for dick circumference instead of length.

Let’s measure by total penis volume

It's not about the length of the boat, it's about the displacement of the ocean.

What if mine looks like this?

She's a lucky girl.

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You made the classic blunder of forgetting the penis has a man attached to it.

Whether my hand floats or not, its displacement is better measured by volume if I push it under water.

Also, water is not the primary thing we're worried about displacing.

Intetesting, I always heard it as ā€œmotion of the oceanā€.

Well now you know the truth

Are you calling me fat?

How many liters is your penis?

Assuming a spherical penis…

You can neglect air resistance for this question.

But not friction.

I would feel more comfortable answering in milliliters

Let's see Paul Allen's penis

https://youtu.be/7ooiizoAxiA

V = πH/3 (R2 + Rr + r2) where "V", "H", "R" and "r" are volume, height, larger base radius, and smaller base radius of the conical cylinder.

See this is how a physicist does shit.

A true engineer would just fill a beaker to the top, stick your toasty rod in it, and measure how much water overflowed. None of that bullshit math and shit, fuck that.

Don't say I didn't tell you not to put it in strange glass, Safety Third!

Mine is a gallon....wife can confirm

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It’s not much, but it’s honest work.

Indeed, dick by the tablespoon

Volume to surface ratio

True. While a spherical cock would require less skin, it might not be conducive for pleasurable intercourse

Let's see Paul Allen's penis.

Someone get that Venus units copypasta please

Actually, you’re looking for adjusted penis size (or T.M.I) and you must incorporate the angle of the shaft aka the yaww.

Well. Not height technically. What you’re measuring is dick to floor. Call that d2f.

Angle of the dangle

Torque of the pork

Heat of the meat

Hang of the wang

El Kabong of the Dong

Arc of the bark?

I’m not very good at this game.

your adjusted penis length can be calculated by the formula [(length x diameter) + (Weight / Girth)] / Angle of Tip ^2

The angle of the dangle is inversely proportional to the heat of the meat, provided that the maxis of the axis, and the gravity of the cavity, remain constant.

The ladies call me tuna can.

Because you stink of fish?

Beer can is what they used to call me in high school

It’s not the length or the size but how many times you can make it rise.

Let's see Paul Allen's penis measurements.

The subtle off weight coloring

See that? That’s boner.

so what if your dick looks like a coaster?

Welp, that's me and my noodle dick fucked!

And can we see the same for vaginas? I mean what good is a 7 inch dick if the cervix is 7.5 inches deep?

How good is evolution does the mean vaginal depth match the mean penis length?

Correct, which is why my hockey puck dick is far superior.

https://calcsd.info/

I think there'd be a lot less variation unless we switch to millimeters.

Would be interesting to see this in comparison to the average vaginal canal depth.

According to porn the vagina is a bottomless pit that can handle baseball bat sized dicks no problem.

I guess that's true for some women. Personally, I'm not a fan of getting jack hammered and repeatedly dick-punched into the cervix. Pretty sure 4-5 inches and proper clit stimulation is sufficient to get most women off.

Not a brag at all because this is the anonymous internet and who gives a shit, but I may have experience in this area. If a guy is pretty big and just goes straight into slamming it in, then he doesn’t know what he’s doing and yes, probably thinks a big Dick means he can ignore the clit. He has to have the self control to take it slow so he’s not making the experience terrible for the woman. That’s the benefit of having a more average sized penis that’s not often talked about, you can fuck away and everyone has a good time.

According to porn the vagina is a bottomless pit that can handle baseball bat sized dicks no problem.

Also, baseball bat sized baseball bats, according to rule 34.

My guess is that it's more for a psychological/aesthetical reason than an anatomical one.

Not to mention other positions

People forget this part. I remember I knew a girl with a huge ass, and she knew and was proud of it, so im not saying it in an insulting way. But she had a minimum size she needed specifically because in her favorite positions a man would be at least 3-4 inches away from her even when fully thrusting. So anyone outside of the top 1% wouldn't be satisfying to her.

Lay her prone, elevate her hips with a pillow, and spread those cheeks.

This was like a decade ago. But her solution was just to stick with bigger guys to avoid the need for special modified positions.

Not to mention literal baseball bats.

i love that you think most men know what a cervix is

Lol, I mean, I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I know there are those who think vagina and urethra are the same, and that we can't pee during our periods because of tampons.

So, maybe I am a little too optimistic, lol.

yeah, but there's a difference between sufficient and ideal

Agreed, it would be a good comparison. What's trickier is how and when these measurements are taken. The cervix moves during the menstrual cycle so the size of the vagina changes. I might recommend measuring at the midpoints between ovulation and menstruation.

Vagina changes a lot during arousal or other conditions. I don't know how you'd get a consistent way to measure it. Definitely deeper than the longest penises.

I swear to god that I had a dream about this exact conversation.

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Elaborate? What ethnic stereotypes are there about vaginas?

TIL there is no correlation between race and penis length.

"A 2015 systematic review of 15,521 men found "no indications of differences in racial variability", and stated that it was not possible to draw any conclusions about size and race from the available literature and that further research needed to be conducted."

Godbless this information, love me some debunking of old, racist nonsense. So glad this got included in this chart, fuck all these BS graphs about penis size and nationality.

not on reddit, everyone is 6"+ here

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"It's only 6 inches, but it smells like a foot"

Spit my milk out!

Like trying to find a mushroom in a corn field, amiright?

Data is beautiful when it’s metric

Agree in general and in this case wouldn't it feel better for the mean dick havers to say 13 instead? Hey, It's a bigger number.

I mean its probably best for Americans to stick to inches to confuse metric using countries a little more. The US has pretty small weiners on average compared to western europe for example.

imagine using a base ten number system and being proud of it

Dicks and screen sizes are the only measures where people internationally uses inches. If this graph was not about dicks or screens I would agree.

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I mean I’ve never been in the US so I only lived in metric countries.

And when speaking English I always heard it in inches, I assume that due to the immense presence of Americans in online spaces? I always thought it was the norm.

From what I know in some english speaking countries (mostly the uk) imperial units are still sometimes used more or less colloquial, but in the vast majority of the metric world measurements like dick size would be made in cm.

While I agree on the screen part of it, the standard over here (anywhere outside the USA) is cm.

Screen reason being, probably, that UK+USA+CAN are(where?) the main markets for those.

The USA still is the main market for dicks, but that’s just because of your mum(/s).

The issue being the rest of the world have no reference point for imperial. Average penis size is what, 1/3 of a 15 inch screen ok thanks

What are you talking about? You always have a device you can compare your penis to. From mobile phones to iPads.

Or in my case, the iPod shuffle.

I mean I would bet more than half the people who view this post use imperial.

If that is a consideration, perhaps the data should show both.

This is important not for the sake of penis envy, but for the mental health aspect. Plenty of depressed folks out there shut in because of what they perceive would be 'unsatisfactory'
Technique it's where it's at - and by that I mean tenderness, rhythm, empathy.

This person fucks.

Sensitive lovers/ water signs unite!

Its always found so bizzare that even in anonymous Anonymous polls, mens will lie about their penis size. Giving result like 6-7 inches on average, like wtf

conversely, women usually shave off a few pounds

the entire human race is a bunch of fucking liars lol

For people wondering about how they measure up and want the statistics, check out CalcSD. Tells you how to properly measure and will give you all the statistics you could want regarding your (or any theoretical) dick.

I call my penis The Truth... Sometimes The Truth hurts, sometimes you can't handle The Truth, but more often than not The Truth is just disappointing.

the centuries old debate can finally be put to rest

I don't remember last time I measured my dick. Probably during teenage years.

I started feeling pretty good about myself after seeing all of the statues while touring in Italy.

You must do 1 cock pushup per day for real cock gains.

It's kinda ironic that in the comments of a post, that is about how much people overestimate penis size, there is a considerable amount of people unsure whether it's erected size or flaccid.

You know, my dicks only four inches, but it smells like a foot!

If women's perceived size is that big I can't imagine the outliers. I've always been told women don't have any penis.

I am now considering a career change.

Why not have inches and centimetres on the scale?

You dont need to look at official porn videos to see men are gifted. Just look at nsfw subs here on reddit and you'll see

If there’s no correlation between size and ā€œraceā€, why do standard condom sizes differ across countries? I’m sure condom makers have the best data, since it’s their business.

Still hurts to be a grower not a shower

Why? Any woman I've been with that saw my penis, saw it erect before they ever saw it flaccid. The only ones who care about being showers, probably just want to walk about in public while flaccid. It seems meaningless to me.

You should do it the other way around, she be like damn he's got a smoll one and then play the THX sound effect, she'd be so impressed.

I’ll never understand this. Having a body part that shape shifts is cool as fuck

That’s crazy. I’m a serious grower. Like a big outlier by most women’s standards and I never gave a single damn even slightly. I care more about erect as that’s the actual utility stage of it. Flaccid stage is meaningless.

Brother you have the best of both worlds,big penises aren't always impressive sometimes its embarrassing and ruins your ability to join in non sexual fun,but when your a grower its like nothing and bam when you need it your are ready

I think it's pretty great. It's my own personal magic trick!

This wasn't the 1% I wanted to be a part of

Could be me 1%, only slept with 1 girl. I would trade to be money 1%

All i can hear is bernie yelling about "da one pah-cent!" And I'm unfortunately picturing a dick wearing mittens like the puberty monster on Big Mouth.

I need a new show. Was there a bernie monster? Why is this in my brain?

There was definitely one with mittens but I can’t remember if they did a Bernie joke. There are too many to remember them all

Wow. We a race of smaller dick people than we thought. What a surprise!

These numbers are still higher than the actual truth, because those with really small penises are not likely volunteering to be studied. It takes some big dick energy to agree to be measured.

This graph is helpful, I didn’t realize I was a porn star

The percentages mentioned in the graphic don't seem to align with the histogram. It seems like there is ~16% between 7in and 9in... So how can there be 91% below the men's perceived average which is way below 7in?

I haven’t seen this high like ratio since sliced bread.

I'm sorry but there is no way that asians have the same size average penis than other races like white black or hispanic.

TBH average penis size is irrelevant. What men want to know is how they stack up against the penis sizes women meet most often.

Is it? I think you spend a lot more time thinking about other guys dicks than I do

You should be more open minded when it comes to thinking about other mens dicks.

I think guys are generally competitive that way.

I'm a guy. Don't give 2 fucks about anyone's penis but my own

Right?! It’s probably fair to assume the monster schlongs are fucking most of the people too or no?! We need more research.

EDIT: Let’s say ABOVE AVERAGE, not monster.. even tho many women have to be curious or actively seek this thing

You generally don’t know penis size until you are already having sex, so I’m not sure why that’d be a fair thing to assume.

Because so many men fall really close to average, they are gonna be the size most often encountered by women.

hahahaah i can assure you, with the rise of Tinder, people are seeing a lot more hard dicks in photos before in person

Not to beat a dead horse, but I am not sure you can assume that most women are encountering average sizes because you are assuming an equal distribution of sex across all penis sizes: which is my point of contention.

My point is that the amount of people that are close to average is so overwhelming that I think it would outweigh any bias towards people with bigger dicks.

The bias would have to be absurdly strong to shift the most frequently encountered size and that’s not practical considering women usually don’t know a man’s dick size until they have sex

I get way you’re saying, but I don’t think there is any reason to think it makes sense in practice

Okay, I see what you are saying too. The distribution is pretty tight relative to the sizes that are out there, so it’s almost negligible. Neat!

I am still definitely curious what the high activity/partner count people are looking like compared to the norm. Maybe the Pornstars side answers that question for me šŸ˜‚

Perhaps you could say I am referring to ā€œbig dick energyā€ that attracts women. The confidence of these men, and also their eagerness/desire demonstrate their prowess

Yo wtf dude. I don't think that's how men work. And I don't think that's how penis sizes work.

You'd be surprised. It doesn't really help much. By the time they find out you're already getting laid and there really isn't a non-creepy way to get that information out there beforehand (also it won't really help unless she's already kind of into you anyway).

I think it does. I did ok before I measured myself, but after I did... It definitely gave me a confidence boost that I didn't have before. Just knowing that you won't disappoint gives a level of boldness that I think women pick up on subconsciously

Just knowing that you won't disappoint gives a level of boldness that I think women pick up on subconsciously

Ironically, thinking that size is all you need not to dissapoint is often going to lead to the sort of complacency that causes dissapointment.

Ehh, you're looking to deep into it. All I'm saying is that knowing you're well endowed gives a peace of mind.

Dudes with monster schlongs probably have a surprisingly hard time finding women willing to shove that thing inside them.

With ā€œmonsterā€ size, I am sure you are correct. I have heard many have trouble even getting/staying hard as well, so not all that glitters is gold.

I will amend my comment accordingly

Lol no. There's no trouble getting or staying hard. Don't know where you heard that, but it's not true.

I am talking about dudes with 10+ in. I am sure everyone is different. Maybe I need a larger sample size ( cough my dms are open). This does not affect too many, and it could just be in comparison to smaller ones. A lot more to worry about, drooping, limited positions, can’t stay upright due to mass, can’t fit in most things(ie receive that level of pleasure) etc.

Googling this is just giving me too many ED ads lol but anecdotal is probably the best we’ll get at this time

Check out /r/bigdickproblems to learn more lmao

I have 2 friends with ā€œmonster schlongsā€ and this is correct. A lot of having to go slow and problems fitting. One said the girl he lost his virginity to actually cried because it was too big and they had to stop.

Yeah, that would suck, not gonna lie.

As a guy who according to this graph is on the "top 1% of all penises", I can say that my size has never been a factor in having sex with someone for the first time.

It's not really the deciding factor on how many partners I have, and most of them only find out about my size when we're already naked

Right, my point is that it may influence other factors which are correlated with increased interest/perceived attractiveness. ā€œBig dick energyā€

You don't need a big dick to have big dick energy. Just like you don't need to actually be short to have Napoleon Syndrome.

That’s fair, but are we taking the outliers as the norm?

I am simply curious what portion of the small number of sexually active men (who have most of the sex anyways) could also be further on the size scale as well. There is a reason why Chad Thundercock exists. Lol

All I'm saying is that such things are mostly psychological, not physical.

I've been a Marine infantry squad leader, a bouncer, a bounty hunter and a private investigator. I'm told that's big dick energy. I'm average.

Oh, and I drive a tiny pickup and a 650 motorcycle.

My experience is that my size has never affect my personality or my dating prospects, although it has with some people I had sex with (but that was after we already had sex for the first time). And while I'm not nearly as shy as I was in my teenage years, I don't think most people would describe me as "big dick energy" tbh (nor as "small dick energy", I think my stereotype would be "looks and talks like a twink and makes people surprised when they find out I like women")

It might affect you in ways you do not realize especially when compared to the norm. Plenty of people have never even had sex, for a variety of reasons (hence my interest in this topic!)

I don’t think it is hard to imagine that some men may feel self-conscious about their size and may be afraid of social embarrassment, humiliation in private encounters, fear of disappointing potential partners, etc.

I totally understand that BDE is not necessarily about pounding your chest/how that can play into people thinking they need to overcompensate as well. I just wonder how much it contributes to the overall picture, especially in men with high numbers of partners/encounters.

What helps me sleep at night is knowing there’s always someone bigger, and that you probably are not the biggest/best(regardless of size) she has had

and that you probably are not the biggest/best(regardless of size) she has had

Personally, that wouldn’t help me sleep at night lol.

I hear you! Lol I think I am more or less saying it is a poor metric to measure relational success by and to just be realistic.

Are you going to put her against a lie detector?!

You’re first bit about there always being someone out there being bigger/better is definitely true. That is true for pretty much all things in life, tbh. There is always a better athlete, but that doesn’t mean you can’t have fun playing a sport. So it’s good advise.

It was just the last bit that I was just picturing you struggling to sleep and then being like ā€œoh yeah, she definitely has had some better dick than mineā€ and then being like ā€œdang, now my eyes are heavy. Nothing like thinking about my girl taking bigger dick to get me sleepy.ā€

I’ll start by saying definitely always communicate and try to improve your sexual encounters..

I think it’s common for anyone in a relationship to question their sexual currency, but I take solace in knowing it does not really define the relationship. Everybody wants to be the champ, right? Put your best foot forward but accept she has probably had some incredible experiences not involving you. I guess I mean to say do it for the sake of doing it rather than being anxious about where you stack up. You gotta embrace what you do have.

Based on a few studies the ideal penis size is about 6 inches.

That correlation of race and penis length is gonna piss off a lot of people invested in the BBC & small Asian dick myths

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Lol at the responses. None defending the BBC myth and all butthurt white dudes attacking the notion that Asian dudes don't have small dicks.

I can't believe how many people on this thread are in shock that that's true. People are really attached to those steroetypes for some reason.

Racism especially along sexual lines is a way to other people and demean them

I don’t really see it as racism. It’s a factoid that many people have probably heard a lot of their life so it makes sense they’d be surprised to hear it is untrue.

Nah a lot of comments toward asian women about giving them a ā€œreal dickā€, being better than small dicked Asians, plus obviously insults toward Asian men. Many people very obviously are racist about it.

Ahh yeah comments like that are pretty blatant. I was referring more to the people who are surprised by the fact as mentioned in the comment I was responding to.

i mean but it’s true; reddit reads one jpeg and their worldview is immediately changed. goldfish brains

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Because every study prior has stated that racial background has a very large impact? (Also just watch any asian porn and you will see). I think (guess) what the claim in the jpeg describes is, given same height , length is the same regardless of race. But since Asians tend to be shorter in height, they will tend to have shorter peni. So I would like to see a study of human height vs length

What Asian porn are you watching lol the largest producer of Asian lead porn in the world is japan and they censor all genitalia.The reason so few Asian man are in American porn is certainly not size but sexual attractiveness which is most of the time born of either media representation which Asian man in America haven't been done kindly by or the fact that most directors are still over whelming white men.Also penis size and height have no correlation...this is what happens when porn leads sexual education

I mean, it's understandable that some people thought it was true. "Average penis size by country" charts get shared on social media all the time and they almost always have primarily Black countries at the top of the list and Asian countries at the bottom. Most of those use fake data and have been debunked but they get shared online all the time

I heard from someone in the industry who said that some porn stars use penis sleeves and the reason that BBC is such a thing is because for black skin it is much, much easier to hide the fact it’s a sleeve with makeup and special effects.

Of course this isn’t 100% of the time but for porn acting using a sleeve is ideal in almost every way than using the real thing. With the sleeve you control the size, have a layer of protection, and can control when to shoot the money shot. No birth control is 100%, porn stars aren’t just risking pregnancy every time and I feel before sleeves and effects got good enough this is why shots like facials even became a thing.

I doubt that's a myth. Different races clearly have different average heights so it only makes sense that they would also have different average penis lengths

Not to be that guy, but looking at the actual data a correlation cannot be ruled out. Some studies do suggest there might be a correlation, it's just that there hasn't really been a conclusive peer reviewed study on this specific subject with a large sample size. That being said, if there is a correlation, the difference is likely to be way smaller than many people assume as of now.

Uhm, I'm going to seriously doubt that stat. I live in Asia and would call myself an average sized white male. Not only do I have to buy the big XL condoms in the store, also nearly every girl has told me it's a lot bigger than all of the Asian men they had sex with.

So what you are telling me is women your sleeping with are telling you things that make you happy and confident?

im told girth matters more. you gonna make another chart or what?

Why do they call you ā€œBean Can?ā€

If you're actually interested go to https://calcsd.info/

Doesn’t matter if it’s as long as a #2 pencil if it’s the width of a #2 pencil. Depression….

The idea that men are even more wrong about average penis size than women is hilarious to me. It makes sense, women probably more erect penises(not from porn) than men do, but men have one for reference at all times.

I'm sorry, there's no correlation with race?

I would have bet my house on the fact that the average African American penis was larger than the average Chinese American penis... I'm calling BS 100%

No comments about South Park did it, suitably disappointed… TMI

I cant even find where the YAW is referenced on the penis wiki

((L*D)+(W/G))/(A^2)

Length times Diameter plus Weight over Girth divided by Angle of the tip squared

Why don't pornstars have a normal distribution like the average joe?

The same reason movies don't have the normal distribution of attractive people

pornstars are a smaller dataset. pornstars have also already gone through an exclusionary process that likely favors larger dongs.

Why don't basketball players have a normal height distribution?

Perhaps it is a normal distribution, but the sample size of pornstars wasn’t large enough to illustrate it well

My best guess would be: because it wouldn't seem good, or you need to make extra effort to make it seems good

I'd be interested to see a 'mean average self reported' for both men, and for women's partners. Every man adds on an inch and every woman says their partner is above average.

If you have the possibility to flip a coin and with 50% you can be assigned to the top 1% or bottom 1%. You can also choose to be assigned with 100% to the mean. what would you choose?

Top 1% or bottom 1% are both terrible for every woman you'll have sex with. So this is the easiest choice to just pick mean.

The average NBA player is 6'6 (198 cm). If you compare yourself to professionals for which additional size is an advantage, of course you're gonna be disappointed.

A lot of effort to go through to convince me your penis isn’t small OP…

So basically if I’m a beer can I’m good to go

Now do one for the size of professional athletes and what people think the average height/BMI is.

There is a Bernie meme in here somewhere about the 1%, but I'm too lazy.

Can we get this same graph but for circumference?

How about Randy Marsh's T.M.I. metric?

(W+G)/angle YAW

Ok. Now do grower vs show-er

Does this study account for penis-lenghtening surgeries?

How... would that even work?!

Can we get some girth data going? Pencils & Soda Cans.

Lmfao fuckin choked on a sandwich after that comment

It is interesting to me that they purposefully excluded measurements of men who complained of small penis size in order to "reduce bias."

I understand that they are trying to avoid being overloaded with participants with body dysmorphia or other psychological anxiety related to their penis size but it seems like they have introduced a bias all of their own by excluding that population. It could just as likely be that they are worried about small penis size because they actually have small penises. I'm not seeing anything indicating that they controlled for this population selection bias, but maybe I missed it when I skimmed the article.

Who's the person out there measuring everyone's dick?

Hmm. I’ll keep my day job.

I read 'real mean' as REAL MEN.

no correlation but condom companies sell different size for different regions in the world??

Great. So I'm still below average...

Wait a minute, when did they manage to measure my pp?

So, what you're saying is, by dividing the weight and the girth of the penis by the angle or the "YAW" of the of the shaft, what we get is the adjusted penis size or "T.M.I"?

Haha the porn graph looks like dick and balls, even with the weird asymmetry on the left ball.

Just curious, but what is the source of these statistics. There's no mention of that in your post. Or, is it just a joke that my old ass GenX mind didn't get? lol

OP's mom started a science project with all her "friends from work".

Black people do seem to be packing tho -Paul mooney

Can we please standardize measurement methodology? Until we do, I'm measuring from tip to ass hole.

It is kinda standardized, pretty much als studies on the subject measure bone pressed to the tip.

It's almost like they specifically hire guys who have big dongs, and use camera and light tricks to enhance the guys who don't.

/s

My mind always drifts to the people are exist on the far right of this chart but because they can achieve greater success, they never consider porn. So somewhere there's a guy who owns a small retail store who is absolutely packing.

My wife had a map on the back of her door in college. It was penis sizes as measured my medical professionals, not self reported. IIRC correctly, Colombia was number one and it wasn't close.

Finally. This will give my life peace

Wtf is an in, use metrics... Backward muricans

I love how women have a slightly more realistic perception of mean penis size than men. Like they’ve seen enough to know what’s up.

This also makes many men feel shitty about their size, when in reality it's average.

I remember after puberty I thought the average was 6 inches at least, and it really messed with me.

Oh thank God. This a much needed win for my self-esteem.

Read this and I literally feel like I'm on top of the world lol

However, there is a correlation between species penis size and female promiscuousness...

Look in all honesty packing a huge wad is not always fun.

Okay but, what is the consensus on WHERE they measure from?

Bone pressed, go to https://calcsd.info/ if you want further info

finally something im not below average in

Is this America only or globally?

The rest of the world doesn't use inches for measurements

I'm rather upset that the data doesn't coincidentally form two penis shapes.

I was today years old when i found out im above average in something

the curve for porn looks like a bigger penis

Time to free willy and then cry

The mean pornstar penis is just the best sentence I’ll read all day

How lovely is it that the pornstars's Gaussian is much less regular than the normal population, most likely due to population size. šŸ’™datašŸ’™

Chromatography is a gas.

Only thing I would add is metric numbers

Was it an accident that the pornstar graph came out shaped like a cock and balls?

Then how come every time I see a penis from the average Joe, it’s bigger and thicker than mine? I’ve seen about..30 adult penises. All thirty are bigger than mine. And I’m only 5.15 inches.

I'd like to see the same sort of figure for intercourse duration. I'd imagine true mean and perception/porn are even further apart

Doesn't only apply to porn : people used for commercials ("models") are also "not your normal people", be it for fashion (obviously) or just to sell you a yoghurt or the new mc donald's burger.

As a friend of mine once told : "commercials posters are making 95% of the population miserable by portraying 5% of it".

I’m high as fuck right now and have been reading dick comments for the last 30 minutes. What the fuck is wrong with me?

I am surprised at the lack of correlation between race and size. I thought I'd read of statistics that implied different, but it might've been reported size.

I’ve taken a lot of porn star dicks tho. Guess I knew what to look for or I got lucky.

There is no correlation between race and penis, really?

For a person with a near mean dick, my wife actually enjoys just the first 1/3rd an awful lot. The length is good for more positions at your disposal.

The no correlation between race and penis surprised me. Everyone always talks about it as fact. Have we all been misinformed?

I need to know.

Yup, it’s a myth perpetuated by the porn industry and actually has its roots in slavery to paint black people as ā€œanimals,ā€ so it’s not exactly a good look

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Op said it themselves:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/vxewg2/oc_penis_size_perceptions_and_porn_most_people/ifvj1zi/

He said it’s not possible to draw conclusions.

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These are based on self-reported measurements and are all referencing the same data.

You're full of shit. Why even claim you're Asian? It does nothing to validate you. You claim here you're Asian, and claim you're French in another post. Okaaaaay.

The entire point is there is NO data out there supporting this idea. The sources you list below are biased and full of shit. They all use low quality data (e.g., data from pre-pubescent children flaccid used for some countries vs. adults, among so many other problems). The problems with the data are acknowledged on a disclaimer page on the website itself.

see comment above: https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/vxewg2/comment/ifvxwr9/

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Damn straight.

Op is dishonest with the data. For instance, if you look at that link floating around, even the site lists the study that lead to the average penis size OP used, as an outlier, and exclude it from their collective averaging. Out of the countless studies that have been done, OP used the study that showed the smallest average.

Extra length also allows pleasurable sex for a woman without the man being fully erect.

Mean penis, NSFW for reference.

Bro that was posted 9 years ago?? How do you find that

Yeeeeeeeep

In my EXTREMELY extensive experience, >_>....6 inches and up is EXTREMELY rare.

Data is beautiful

All sizes aren't in metric

Porn continues to push really racist stereotypes but no one talks about it because it’s porn.

The statement about ethnicity having no impact is not entirely true though, OP even admitted himself in a comment that he might have made a mistake.

Can someone settle for me once and for all - where on the base do we measure from? The top? The bottom? The side?

Depends if you're north or south of the equator

Pubic bone actually. Google it.

https://calcsd.info/measuring.html

I wonder how many are going to link this to their tinder profiles either ad bragging or context šŸ˜‚

dicks get measured when they’re hard right ? i’ve never actually known this 100% and now I’m imagining (pause) an 8 inch flaccid dick

If not stated otherwise it's usually erect length measured like this https://calcsd.info/measuring.html

Friend of mine is a sex worker and we were talking about porn and the unrealistic expectations. She was commenting on how she felt like she was too fat and I was commenting on how that was stupid.

Conversation eventually circled around to the perceived penis size and told her how I felt I was just average and she asked for a number, I told her and she was like 'Ok well the porn industry has fucked up both of our body perspectives because that's not average'

I've been in like...6 or 7 relationships and I'm 35 years old and it took becoming friends with a sex worker to get this reality check.

Women's perception of penis size comes from personal experiences.

My hypothesis:

They are going to see a lot more larger penis than smaller penis. Because men with small penis are not having as many different mates.

I'd adjust that hypothesis a bit.

Women get lots of dick pics but most of those people who are sending them are probably above average or they wouldn't be sending them.

Like a dude with a pringles can for a dick is probably sending it to everyone he possibly can. Where some dude with a 5.5 incher is thinking he is tiny and isn't putting that out into the world.

Whatever about men assuming dicks are massive or being insecure about the size of their own member from watching porn or whatever, women actually see loads of dicks and still think that 90% of them are below average. It reminds me of that dating app survey where women found 80% of men to be below average.

. It reminds me of

that dating app survey

where women found 80% of men to be below average.

It's like ice cream. Average Ice cream is pretty good. If there are 45 ice cream shops with in a 5 minute walk of your apartment though, you might get a little picky.

Is there really no correlation between race and penis length? Cause I'm pretty sure there is

There is, the data set is terrible and OP didn't even read the study as the authors say no such thing.

Maybe the micro ones are skewing the mean.

I'd rather have a 9 inch dick tbh

I'm sure your wife is really impressed with your penis data and penis research, and forgot all about your small penis

"SEE HONEY, I am AVERAGE! Why are you walking away?"

No correlation between size and race? Wut ?

yeahhhh lol not buying that. i am a gay guy who has slept with at least 100 guys and seen probably 500 more penises in social settings (hot tubs, bathhouse, etc), I can tell you there abso-fucking-lutely a size correlation by race.

Gay men have a tendency to prefer larger sizes and perhaps men who are willing to expose themselves publicly do so because they feel confident in their size.

I don't think buttholes get happy from larger sizes, but correct me if I'm wrong gay guys...

Crazy that you’re downvoted. I’m also gay and I can agree 100%. As probably every gay man.

I've seen charts on this sub that say the opposite of what this chart says. I tend to think there is a correlation

The mean/average in your country is probably a bit more important than the global one though.

So many problems with the data.

  1. Participants are often not fully developed, most studies included 17 year olds.
  2. Studies often look at unrepresentative samples (e.g. urology patients with a median age of 54)
  3. Most (like 85% or so) studies don't have measurements for erect penises and the few that do come from often old patients or from countries like India that have a below average penis size to begin with.

The idea that you can take the average erect penis size of elderly urology patients and people from Turkey/India and generalize that to the rest of the world is, patently absurd at best.

Terrible, terrible data.

[Edit]: Here is the data on erect penises that was used: https://imgur.com/a/RDG7kWs

note all the n/a from almost every study. So the "real penis size" is based on 4 studies:

12.93cm (INDIA) - Sexual dysfunction clinic (ages 18-60)

14.48cm (GERMANY) - 18-19 year old volunteers

12.73cm (TURKEY) - 20-22 year old volunteers

12.89cm (USA) - Urology patients (mean age 54)

Does anyone else see the problem here?

This chart dosent show me going down for about 2 hours on her .

Iv seen other statistics showing clear signs that race DOES effect dick length

Which makes me 2nd guess everything else here

It’s a myth perpetuated by the porn industry, and actually has its roots in slavery to paint black people as ā€œanimalsā€ so it’s not exactly a good look

Sorry that’s bs. I mean what you say (fetishizing of black peoples big dick) is probably true, but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a real correlation. Ask just every gay man (with a lot of sexual experience), and they will guarantee you that there’s some correlation. Of course that doesn’t mean ā€œevery Asian = small dickā€ and ā€œevery black guy = big dickā€.

Can gay men not be influenced by the media and porn industry? I’d say they’re the ones most likely to be affected by such biases. Confirmation bias is a real thing.

In any case, the fact that there hasn’t been any study that concludes that these alleged differences exist seems pretty convincing to me

Of course they can, and they definitely are. Maybe even the most. But that’s not what I was saying. It’s just that the average gay guy probably sees more real (hard) dicks in his life than a straight guy or even a straight woman. It’s just experience.

Going off of your logic, doctors and researchers probably see even more dicks than gay men (especially the ones who administer these studies), so the fact that no reliable figure has been able to find any correlation between penis size and race should point to there being some truth to the matter.

In any case, I hope we can agree that the media and various industries have certainly worked to magnify and elevate these preconceived notions

As someone who owns multiple dildos, I can tell you that 5 inches is a lot of dick. Like even 6 inches is too much for some of the ppl i've been with!

If you're a man, try taking 5 inches of dildo up your *ss. You'll see that it's perfectly sufficient *wink wink*

You’re out here doin’ the Lord’s work! 😭😭

In all seriousness though, sometimes it does take an outside perspective to make people understand that what they got ain’t always as bad as it seems to them!! For all my life I thought my dick was small, inadequate yadadada…

That is, until I started hooking up with gay dudes. I got compliments on my cock by almost every one!! And believe me, all those years of insecurity didn’t let me believe those compliments, but after a lot of them your start to believe…Granted, it’s not a ā€œwow you’re so hugeā€ compliment, but a more genuine ā€œyou’ve got a nice cockā€ compliment..which also led me to find out I have above average girth! :D

We need more people out there complimenting average dicks!

Could we have a graph on how deep and loose your vaginas are? I’m sure women would be scared of the truth. What is your perceived tightness?

If you can put your fist in it, keep walking.

Who hurt you lmfao

Just flipping the script since we live in a world of equality and got to be a male feminist too.

Get therapy

It’s ok if you don’t accept a double standard, that’s your choice.

South Park did an episode on this right?

your adjusted penis length can be calculated by the formula [(length x diameter) + (Weight / Girth)] / Angle of Tip ^2

Shit, time to go buy a lifted truck and roll some coal.

According to this chart, the same amount of men have a 7.1" dick as an 8.5" dick.

Yall think too much about dick sizes.

Standard methodology, right? Measuring from the butthole.

Near side or far side?

Far end of the starfish.

Yep all the way just beyond the tip

Wow maybe I should go into porn

To the silent heroes who stayed up night and day measuring dicks... Thank you

Good to see some hard data on this

I'm never going to be in the top 1% of wealth, talent, good looks, intelligence or success but this graphic is helping.

there is no correlation between race and penis size?

you sure?

Maybe it's to do with population. The countries we look at as smaller have such a large population eg X billion that maybe the % of smaller sizes are the same but that % of X billion is so many more people.

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An agenda

What agenda? All you need to do is sort by controversial to be able to tell there's a ton of misunderstanding and misinformation on race and penis size and perhaps some need to address that.

The agenda is obviously that ā€œrace correlates to nothing in realityā€. When we can see even with our own eyes that race/ethnicity is highly correlated to certain phenotypes, of which penis length is one of.

Well, I personally don't know, cuz I don't usually measure other people's length. I know it's "common sense" that Black people have big penises and Asians have small penises, but in reality how many of those have you seen / measured?

If everyone said these stereotypes are the truth there would be people saying "this is agenda".

There was a post that made it to the front page a few months ago that broke down the differences in size by country.

Do people just blindly follow whatever OP puts in the post?

OP didn't read his own sources, and even made a comment about it later. The post stays up however, spreading misinformation.

in my experience, it breaks down further then just surface ā€œwhiteā€, ā€œblackā€, ā€œasianā€, etc.

Like Vietnamese guys have good length/girth… if you want big white cock, you generally have to go german or italian. A lot of guys from the Eastern block of Europe are amazing shooters… haven’t really been with enough middle eastern guys to say for sure on the break-outs between regions in terms of size, but I will say there are enough differences between indian and arab dick, I could pick them out of a line-up pretty reliably.

This is fascinating….any other notices you’ve seen between countries and races??

For instance, I’ve found that not all black dudes sport big dongs, and not all Asian dudes have small dongs…been with plenty of Filipinos with above average girth and lengths…Saw a 5’6ā€ rocking an absolute MONSTER between the legs…

Penis facts are awesome!

Source: promiscuous and gay af about 3-4 years ago

You only need a few inches, girth and how hard you can get is what matters.

Can you duplicate it in santimetrs?

I'm so annoyed by how much time and energy is wasted on this. Meanwhile, your hand cannot get me pregnant and can give me an orgasm. Focus on that.

The top 1% of all penises is 7.1ā€ and over 75% of penises are under 5.8?!?!?!??!? We’re talking like standard base to tip? Not Rand Marsh’s length over width times yaw? Fuck man. You just made me feel so fucking good about what’s in my pants. Thank you for that. If these facts are true, my wiener is a winner šŸ„‡ 🄹🤣

https://calcsd.info/

People who don't use the metric system have smaller penises

2.54 times smaller

Man, black dudes totally got rug pulled with that last "fact"

This myth doesn't help black men. It gives complexes

I work in a hospital and have seen way too many penises in my life and I can tell you there definitely is a correlation between ethnicity and penis length, and yes the stereotype about black men is very true.

Why do your patients have erections?

Why is there no correlations between race and length?

Makes me question the entire graph TBH.

There's correlation between penis size and height, and wildly different average height depending on country of origin. So I find it quite hard to believe this is true.

Race is a construct my friend. Iirc African Americans have a tiny bit bigger dick but really not anything meaningful.

Load of BS I guess all ethnic traits don't exist either

Ethnicity and race is not the same lmfao

Average length in China is 4.3, average length in France is 6.2 inches. I would say that’s a significant difference

The French are lying.

Germany is 5.7 inches, are they lying too?

Probably not. They might be higher without the Turkish.

Of course šŸ˜’ the French are lying that theirs are bigger and all the Chinese keep lying that theirs are tiny. Seems logical. What is it with Reddit and trying to prove race doesn’t affect a single part of your genetics. Shits wild.

Because then they have to accept IQ differences

They’re all the same.

Nah brah

It’s true but you can believe whatever makes you feel better.

race is a construct, inherited traits are not

Yeah and? Africans have the largest and the smallest dicks on earth. We ain't a monolith there's more genetic difference between someone from Ethiopia and someone from Mali than someone from China and someone from France.

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Race is not the same as ethnicity

In finally in the 1%! Too bad it's not a good thing...

There is no correlation between race and penis length is just blatantly false. Either they’re lying, or they don’t fully understand what correlation means. Is there high correlation? Probably not, but I guarantee you it’s non zero.

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I have a hard time believing that race doesn't have a factor.

Based on what? Fetish porn?

Lockerrooms and a ton of pervy people

I'm calling bullshit on that one as well. I live in Asia and while I consider myself just an average sized penis in Europe, here in Asia I have to buy the XL size or it's near impossible to get it on.

I was following and agreeing until I saw the last point. Surely that's not true. There must be a correlation.

OP admitted himself in a comment that he might have messed up a little there. That being said there isn't a whole lot of scientific research on this specific subject. If there is a correlation, the difference is probably lower than many people assume

I just don’t believe race is not related: Average length in China is 4.3, average length in France is 6.2 inches. I would say that’s a significant difference

Only thing it proves is the French are a bunch of liars

Germany is 5.7, are they liars as well?

Maybe race is not related when nutrition levels are controlled. That's likely what they're positing.

Haiti is 6.3 inches, are they eating super well over there?

What’s your source? According to this chart, France is indeed high the list but, U.K. and Ireland are below several East Asian countries.

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Do you have a better source?

The section in wikipedia mentions there isn't significant evidence for race to correlated with size;

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Well here's another one.

https://calcsd.info/

This groups all the western and eastern countries. It aggregates several different studies. Though I prefer a study broken down by countries since there is a lot variance between countries within the same region. Like France >> U.K and SK >> Cambodia. Western average definitely higher, but the difference is < 0.5 in.

So you think that’s a valid point for Chinese men purposefully underreporting their dick size across the board? Doubt, big doubt

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Truth, Pretty sure Congolese people average the biggest dicks and Germanys average is way ahead of the rest of Europe.

in my purely anecdotal experiences of sucking a lot of dicks, this rings very true

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7.1 would be 18.03

There is no way this is true, race is a big factor in penis length, there a dozen of studies that proved it.

https://www.drelist.com/blog/penis-size-race/?amp

You shouldn't say "dozens of studies" and then cite a blog. Might as well post Facebook memes as evidence

I love that you say there are dozens of studies and then link to a blog.

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It doesn’t say that it say body size matter but race matter too because our race often make us bigger like Central African vs East Asian that are smaller size, so race do matter.

https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/2018/5/2/fact-check-are-there-really-racial-differences-in-penis-size/

so we must be mindful of the limitations here. However, the results do appear to support the idea that there are racial differences in penis size.

That link says that most of the studies were from self reported measurements and that there is a sample problem in that only people with larger penises will contribute to the study. Of the one study done in Brazil where the measurement was performed by the researcher, they only found difference between black men and white men but only a difference of 0.26 inches. I don't know where you're even drawing conclusions about Asians and African

Lol the site you linked is a site that sells penis enlargements and says "A micropenis is defined as being 3 inches or smaller when flaccid and smaller than 5 inches when erect." while also stating "Studies show that 12.5 percent of men think they have a micropenis, when in reality only .06 percent of the male population have a true micropenis." When compared to the graph above, would imply that roughly 50% of people have micropenises. Clearly they are trying to trick readers into thinking they have a medical condition and need their services.

That being said, you're not wrong. Just not the best link and a bit of a sore subject for much of Reddit's demographic.

That blog is a mess. While parts of it may be accurate, there's definitely some of it that isn't and contradicts with other parts.

The blog you linked to linked to another blog (BMG) about a data aggregation study (BJUI) that says this, "Let’s get this out of the way quickly: The BJUI review couldn’t find credible evidence of differences between races on average penis sizes."

The blog you linked to says that a micropenis is any penis smaller than 5 inches erect. The BMG site says this, "A micropenis is any penis smaller than 2.05 inches while flaccid, and 3.35 inches stretched or erect, although some researchers consider less than 3 inches erect as the micropenis threshold."

The blog also says that there is a race whose average penis size is 10.2 inches. Not a chance that's real.

These mfers be using blogs as sources... ain't no way.

For real though, there's not enough data at the moment to say whether or not there is racial difference. Is it possible? For sure, but there really isn't enough evidence to say either way at the moment. Lots of the data that shows racial difference is self-reported which obviously a flawed method of data collection in this case.

You know blogs don’t do the study they talk about the studies you fucking genius, when you watch the today show do you think they study heart diseases in their dressing room, moron.

I'll ignore your strange and childish ad hominem attacks. The studies that that blog cite are shoddy at best and many don't prove what it says they do. There have been many, many studies that show that the differences between races is non-existent to small at best (like 0.5 inch difference in average at max). I'm not sure why you're so hell bent on this, this is in an incredibly silly hill to die on.

The difference between Asian and African is almost 3-4 inch, explain that RIGHT NOW.

Cite your source, and no, don't cite the blog because I'm not going to comb through it to find your source. Cite the exact study that shows that.

https://www.worlddata.info/average-penissize.php

That's not a study. That's an interpretation of data from studies that was not put together by a scientist. Show me an actual study that demonstrates your claim.

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You obviously lack the understanding about what a scientific study is. In the bottom by sources it lists a few things like "various studies". I want to see the actual studies because I'm not going to spend an hour combing through their sources to see if they're telling the truth or not. I do not bear the burden of proof, if you want me to believe you, then show the actual scientific study, and not some unofficial, unscientific collection by a non-scientist.

Until you do this, this conversation is over. I won't waste my time with someone as immature as you.

You such a clown

Study says mean gerth is 4.7".

TIL there is an implant to make you more average sized

You have to be careful with those surgery they have huge complications/fail rates

Yeah I’d be too scared to try. I married one of the ones that doesn’t care about size lol

10+ years ago, I got mugged, they broke my eye socket, stole a shitty phone. They didn't need to punch me (Especially with a chonky ring), They honestly could have just asked for it, 3 blokes and a dog vs me? Yea take it.

The hospital said they would cut a slit under my eye to insert a plate and I noped out of that, even when they said, until it fully heals, if you get a hard knock to that side of your face it could blind you if the bone slips.

So yea, Nah. I'm happy with where I am.

I was gonna say. Race is definitely a factor.

Source: porn

Actually, source: military showers.

Why are military showers full of erect penises?

Its really kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy

They aren't full of erect penises, but a whole shower room full of dudes singing "My Girl" has happened.

Source: me, December 11th 2011, Great Mistakes. Ship 5.

Were they all erect? Flaccid dicks aren’t a good indicator of overall size when erect, as some men simply have more or less blood in their dicks in a flaccid state. Growers and show-ers.

Well that's definitely true but it also correlates. You can't expect all the blacks to be showers and the rest all growers.

Also the link he provided above suggests there is a slight difference between races, not much but it's there..

Black people are black because of their ancestors proximity to the equator and increased exposure to the sun.

White people are white because of the opposite and the need to better absorb vitamin D from sunlight.

When you’re cold, you’re genitals retreat like a frightened turtle for protection.

It’s colder further from the equator.

It would be evolutionarily beneficial for people living further from the equator to retain less blood in their genitals.

But even people from colder climates(whites) have bigger penises(flaccid that is) compared to other races, except blacks.

That's just from my perception, no actual data..

As a giant dude with big muscular legs, despite being over average ;) still looks meh it's like that illusion with the ball in the middle and large around one and smaller around the other but the twist is both in the middle are the same size!

That's how my husband is.

He's hung like a horse, but he's a really huge dude too, so it looks kind of average to small on him. In his hand it looks average, in my hand it looks cartoonishly huge.

His best friend is big but not nearly as big, but he's a small guy, so it looks massive.

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This is why people have no idea what they're talking about. They're all so easily fooled by relative sizes, and trying to guess sizes without a standard unit of measure to compare against.

So you check out your husbands friends dick?

Why do you know his best friends size?!

They're very close friends.

At least I'm not the only one 😃

But yeah that a better way of describing it

I don't believe a word of this...and these fancy graphs are worthless.

Uh why though? Apart from the point about ethnicity it seems to match up pretty well with other data.

If you’re bigger than an iPhone you’re golden

glad i got the ā€œminiā€!

They are still 4.7ā€ if you’re bigger you’re about average and golden

Women still want their 678 man, but those women are not wanted by those men.

What is that even supposed to mean?!

I am a 1%er! Now, you have to guess what way!

So 9ā€ basically guarantees me a movie part. Okay

ā€œthere is no correlation between race and penis lengthā€ am i missing something because by country there is large differences in length

There's no fucking way there's 0 correlation between race and penis size. These facts are bs.

Would have been nice to include metric measures for the rest of the world :)

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Are you actually measuring it or just perceiving it?

Under rated comment xD

how are they getting the sample size/data? Is this done on cadavers or is it gentlemen self reporting their own size?

The most accepted way to measure an erect penis is by gently pressing the measuring instrument to the pubic bone.

As far as the graph goes, the data for the population graph came from multiple different studies, all of which had a "health professional" actually perform the measurement.

And if cadavers is this before or after Rigor Mortis sets in?

Yeah, I don't think I'm in the 1%. Either that, or the 1% gets around enough that being in the 1% isn't all that mind blowing to most women.

1% is still about 40 Million men.

"No correlation between penis and race", that's not true .

Source for correlation between and race?

I'm pretty sure it's a myth based on psuedoscience.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size#Size_and_race https://www.ajol.info/index.php/tjmr/article/view/30465

No, not really. This is like all the non-blogposts I could find on the first page of google.

Do you have other legit sources? There aren't many people funding penis size studies when size doesn't affect your health.

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According to Aaron Spitz, a urologist, many websites and studies promoting variation of penis size between races use unscientific methods of collecting information and often ignore contradictory evidence. He concludes that "when you really take a good look at the naked data, there’s not a whole lot there [showing racial variation in penis size]."

That is from the wikipedia link. All 3 you posted allow self reporting to be calculated. The middle one says it tried not to use it when possible but still used it. You can't believe self reporting.

It's no myth. It's pretty evident from porn itself. Also I'm kinda sure my race definitely has a lower average length than others like Africans and Caucasians.

Sample size: the number of dicks this poster has sucked

Yeah that makes me question their methods.

Idk about the accuracy of this 🤣

"there is no correlation between size and race"

Bullshit!!

There is a South Park episode with this exact feeling

All this science isn't gonna help me. Women want big thick dicks.

No way mine is bigger than 75% of people.

The top 1% of all penises hahahah

You’re telling me I’m actually above average?!

This graph gives me porn star confidence

Bro you ever met a pornstar...depression might be what you mean

So, what is the scientific reason for the near constant plateau between 7 and 8.5, which doesn’t look like a Gaussian distribution at all? Bias? Noise because sample size? Correlated growth factors?

Could be small sample size, but there is also the strong possibility that porn star values are self reported and wrongfully rounded.

ā€œThere is no correlation between race and penis length.ā€

You sure about that?

The Uterus is roughly 4ā€ into the body (it varies, just like like men’s PP’s) . Anything past that point is painful for the woman. So if you got 7ā€. first off, you monster, second off you are definitely not getting that full thing in her any time soon.

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That's not what he said. 🤦

If you try to shove a 7" penis all the way in, you will poke the cervix and cause discomfort or even pain.

Read it again. He's talking about the vagina but is too inexperienced to know the difference

Oh ho, still determined to be an asshole are we? Fine. You know the vagina is between the uterus and the skin yeah? The actual part of the female body that was meant to stimulate the penis during sex. The vagina is (guess what?) 4-5ā€ long. (Correlates to what I was saying) And what is at the end of the vagina? The uterus, specifically the bottom part known as the cervix. Which means the uterus is, as I said, 4-5ā€ deep in the body. Just because you can’t reach it doesn’t mean that you’re the only one who’s looked it up and ā€œknows what’s going onā€.

Apparently the vagina is 4ā€ into the vagina, according to you.

It is 4 inches from the lips of the vagina to the cervix. In an unaroused state.. Seriously, get an anatomy book and figure it out. Or ask your mother.

seems like you just agreed to my point, and realized I wasn’t mixing up the vagina and uterus. So why would I buy an anatomy book if you said I’m right?

Also, feel free to ignore my other in-depth comment that everyone can see. That’ll prove your super smart

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Let me know what happens the next time you shove your dick into some poor woman's uterus.

Can you make a double x-axis label with both inches and centimeters? This graph is pretty useless to anyone who doesn't use imperial units.

Great way to discover I'm above average and still disappointing to most people.

Why does it stop at 9" tho?

The investigator died of internal injuries before they could report it.

Define length... Are they measuring erect or flaccid? From tip to what exactly?

Erect (kinda obvious tbh) and bone pressed. So if you want to partake you need to take a ruler (or something similar) and gently push it on the public bone, measure along the top side of the penis to the tip.

This is all good and reassuring, truly.

But let me tell you a story. Many moons ago, I went swimming with a couple friends and an acquaintance. We're all getting changed and acquaintance hops in the shower, which was communal like at most public swims.

I was saying something or other to him and when he turned around to face me, I actually couldn't remember what the fuck I was trying to say, because there it was, the biggest dick I'd ever seen in my life.

It was somewhere in the neighbourhood of 11-12 inches, possibly 13. It was thick, too.

Man, I wish I had one of those things instead of this fiver I'm stuck with.

No, you don't. Women would want nothing to do with you.

Source: am woman; women discuss such things and experiences. Average is just fine and dandy if you put in any effort at all.

Every time penis averages are brought up, I’d like to be informed whether or not we are talking erect. Because an erect penis is generally a persons max size. Non erect can vary greatly.

That's why the data typically presented, if not stated otherwise is erect

ok, happy to know that I can stand up to women's expectations in terms of height.

No correlation between race and penis length? Well thats news to me. Arent asians usually shorter in length. Or is it just proportional to their body size since most are also smaller. But than again i thought height had nothing to do with size. All these cocks are confusing me.

As of now correlation can neither be proved fully nor be outruled, there would have to be a peer reviewed study with a large enough sample size on this specific subject to do so probably. But it does seem, that if there is correlation, the difference is likely to be significantly smaller than people assume.

You lost me at no correlation between race and size. That is not true. Check every other study of this ever.

Lol I always thought I was seriously packing but watching porn made me think I was roughly average. This explains a lot

Hundreds of comments on people saying that it correlates with height, hand size, feet size, color of your skin... Just goes to show how massively ignorant people are when it comes to men's sexuality in general.

Haha see mom, I told you I was above average at something!

I may not be the in the 1% tallest but here...here im above.

(Was tempted to say im "still not" just for the joke)

I don't believe the race part

Porn in itself… gives people the wrong idea about what sex is and what the human body actually looks like normally.

now we need a breast size graph

As someone who heavily leans socialist, I am struggling with how to feel about the fact that my penis is a 1%er...

LOL this is pure copium. According to this, I’ve got a bigger dick than over 98% of men on the planet? Lol, no. I personally know like ten guys with bigger dicks than me and I know LOADS with similar size.

Also - penis size and race are absolutely correlated.

Studies on this topic are essentially worthless for a myriad of obvious reasons. Life experience, observations and actual common sense is all you need. Go talk to a gay guy, a woman or a straight dude who is around a lot of cocks.

I’d say the average size for a white guy is around 6 inches… MAYBE 5.5 inches, but even that I’d say is on the smaller side of average.

Huh. I remember a decade or so ago the average was measured to be about 6in.

Are we shrinking?

Are we trading girth for length?

Is this just a more accurate study with larger sample size?

Can OP make a historical analysis to past studies?

I'm gonna go with the trading girth for length idea. This is speculation.

We're constantly evolving to become more social.

Length would be beneficial to the individual male, get in deeper to both insure pregnancy (sperm kinda really suck at swimming) and to outcompete other males (get yours closer to the egg).

Girth is beneficial to the female. Physiologically it is more suited to stimulate nerves. And in the extreme, a major problem humans have experienced during birth is the size of the baby's head passing through. A wider vaginal canal would help alleviate this, which still causes many health problems for the mother even with modern medical techniques.

This is just speculation, but it seems like a win-win for everyone. Males are happy because females want to have sex more often, because it is more pleasurable for them, females are happy because sex feels better, and humans win because fewer complications (injury and death) occur during pregnancy.

Speaking as a male bottom, I LOVE THE STRETCH.

I’ve read that the average penis size is shrinking. Believeed to be caused by chemicals in processed food and increased average weight. If your fat, you dick in effect shrinks as it’s engulfed by fat.

Hmm. I could see chemicals being a thing, but processed foods have been around for a long time, I'd need to see more data.

Haha fat has nothing to do with it, that's not how the measurements were conducted.

I think how we process food has changed quite a lot since we started doing it. And not least what chemicals we give to the animlas that become the processed food.

I don’t know how the measurements were done but if nothing else the perception of a penis gets smaller if there’s a buch of fat in the root.

Why do you think that? Recently, at least in American markets, there's been major pushes for less processed foods with fewer additives.

Haha you can check the source. Nobody cares how it's perceived, they measured what is there.

Because the whole purpose of a company is to maximize profit for the shareholders. Increased quality rarley increases profit. So if a company puts a label ā€œLesser additiveā€ on their products I guarantee you the replaced additives, which are fewer in total, are far worse than the ones they removed.

And if nothing else, the huge consumption of processed foods is what makes america fat.

Sure sure. But we don't know for sure until we find out.

Haha and again fat has nothing to do with actual penis size.

Not actual. But perceived.

https://www.drelist.com/blog/will-losing-weight-lead-to-a-larger-penis/

Haha you're a butt to tip person aren't you?

Yeah there is a difference between actual and perceived.

But this is science. They measured base to tip, and if there was a fat person I'm assuming they lifted the stomach a little so they could measure base to tip like everyone else.

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Lol why is it always China? And why is it always racial stereotypes?

Umm... yeah but look at the population demographics. Males widely outnumber females. Because lots of female babies were killed, and due to cultural practices of inheritance male children were preferred. So dropping the 1 child policy and stopping discrimination against female persons would actually bring the number up.

Try again. Without the racial stereotypes. It just makes you look like a fool.

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Yeah it made the front page like a month ago. People just forget it?

Reddit likes to forget it so that race/ethnicity can be nothing but skin color….

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Women aren't [generalization], they're actually [other generalization]

Who cares. Why is reddit so obsessed with dick size? So many low esteem men on here. Stop focusing on your dick and work on your personality

You can't fuck with your personality.

Says the guy who feverishly clicked in here

The same reason women obsess over their tits. It’s a confidence thing.

I feel you but the same thing applies. Most men don't care if your tits are big or small. You can't change your dick no sense wrapping up your whole self worth in it. I know most of reddit is 15 year old kids but come on guys. You will get a lot more pussy if you have a good personality not if you have a huge dick.

No, it’s illogical, makes no sense, but this is human psychology and we compare ourselves to others, either physically, mentally, financially or socially. This has been the way for as long as humans became self-aware.

Okay, not everyone thinks like this. You can work on your confidence.

Yeah. You’d think most guys had never been in a locker room before.

How many erect dicks do you see in a locker room?

You’re saying you can’t tell anything from a non-erect one?

Correct, most people aren’t showers and even then they still grow when erect. Flaccid size doesn’t tell you anything about erect size

The locker rooms I've been to you don't really get to see any completely naked and fully erect people

it's reddit.

i'll be honest the average woman's concept of size is way worse than this.

When it comes to estimating the size of anything they're fucking horrible at it. Unless they are in a trade where they are constantly measuring they are inaccurate as fuck.

whereas every man... well, has a ruler in their pants. When you know your dick is 5 inches and you see 5 inches everyday. you get pretty good at guesstimating what 5 inches is and everything else is based on that.

also race certainly plays a factor. why would race play a factor for height and weight but not penis size? ludicrous

There's absolutely a correlation between race and penis length lmao

Looks like propaganda a man with a 5.16 penis would make

I kind of lost faith in this research when I read the very last point: "race isn't correlated".

One thing that should be noted is these numbers represent global averages. If you take just western averages the mean is slightly higher, 7 inches doesn't represent the top 1% but more like the top 5%. This isn't due to any issues related to race just the fact that someone in the US has better access to food and health care than someone in a remote village in India.

There is no meaningful variation in penis size between racial groups. There is no data that exists to support what you are saying. You have completely made this up.

It's weird how much this shatters some males' worldview that dick size is in no way related to race.

Edit: calcsd.info is in no way a reputable site. This is in no way a verified "source."

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The number of people who climb out the woodwork every time this topic comes up using the same few websites regurgitating the same flawed data and touting it as "facts" and "sources" leads me to believe otherwise.

Sure the typical redditor wouldn't even bother to stop and leave a comment. But people like the above commenter who swear there's a link to race despite OP citing evidence to the contrary are definitely clinging on to the narrative.

Height and race is another one people love to use as a source of some kind of superiority. And it isn't necessarily true. There are variations in height among populations, but there is also huge variation within the overbroad categorizations of race that are often thrown around as well.

Koreans, northeast Asians, northern Chinese are as tall on average as many European populations. Northern Europeans are much taller on average than southern Europeans. Etc.

I used to be self conscious about 5in dick, but after becoming sexually active and comfortable with my body I no longer am. I am on the girthier side of things though so I call it my lil tuna can.

It really is all about how you use it anyways and how in tune you are to your partner's body language and sounds they're making

Is this erect or not? Kind of important piece of info.

Dude, no one has a 7 inch flaccid penis

This makes me feel good about my 4.4 inch Asian penis! Ladies here I cum!

No known correlation between race and penis size? I worked in Japan and Korea for years. Went to Onsen/jinjabongs hundreds of times. Saw a lot of Asian wang...and yeah sorry those on the pacific rim.

Unless you took a ruler and were getting them hard, that really doesn't mean anything at all.

What the fuck I am in the \~97,5% percentile O.O
I would have guessed more like 67%

I kinda doubt the data to be honest

Why do I have a ā€œhardā€ time believing this

Once again, that .1 keeping me out the top 1%. Time to redistribute penis length!

"there is no correlation between race and penis length" šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚

While I’m grateful there’s no direct correlation between height and penis size, there’s a definite height-to-being-able-to-show-off-your-dong correlation.

I wonder how many men say that the mean is higher than they actually think it is when asked, because they believe this will make it seem like their's is bigger because they have a skewed idea of what the mean is.

Is this chart to scale? I put my dick on my phone screen and it's way bigger than the chart.

ā€œSee that, shrimpy? Your name will be up there some day, you’ll be a star.ā€

Glad to find out I'm above average

"The mean porn-star penis represents the top 1% of all penises"

What's the sample size and data collection method?

Dang now I'm even more proud of my Haitian Sensation.

Is there a chart for sane europeans that use the metric system

I, McMurray, have a 5.15 inch penis!

I can understand porn guys measuring their units for employment related purposes but how are they surveying the general population? Surely it must rely on voluntary participation. I mean a biologist can't just hide in the bushes with a tranquilizer gun and gather data off passerbys.

Loving the jokes were all having with this. But I’ve got a serious question. I’d love to know the methodology here. How large(!) was the sample and how were they recruited?

Y'all ever been to my gym? Hammers everywhere

This should be front page article of the Daily Planet

Gents, just show this graph to a lady and it will guarantee she’ll want to have sex with you.

Is this adjusted penis length based on angle and circumference?

any idea what the shoulders on the porn star peak represent? some neat data plateau for periones? some kind of happy valley dick aesthetic rule for filmed penii?

Holy shit I stand a chance

So what you're saying is that Mandigo is a fucking god.

Her: ā€œYour penis is average.ā€ Him: ā€œYou’re mean.ā€ Her: ā€œNo. YOU are.ā€

ā€œLet me know before you move below the belt I have some graphs to show you.ā€

I suppose its good to be above mean ( not by far )but too bad never used it till now (32 years ) finger corssed for it to work properly when needed

Cries in McMurray's 5.15" penis

Imagine being the intern for this study?

"What'cha doin' Joe?" "Oh, nothing, just looking up the penis length for various porn stars."

I’m at the top of the bell curve, baby!!

I should be a porn star wooty woot

What this graph really says:

If you aren't in the top 9% of penis size, your odds of a fruitful career as a pornstar are quite small.

Every time I see statistics on penis size, the average keeps getting smaller. Are penises shrinking or are we just getting more people to admit to having smaller penises?

This is erect, correct? Am grower not shower

If you ain’t talking TMI I don’t wanna talk

Searches frantically for a measuring tape

Who... is getting this data?

from... where?

Sample size is...

I don’t believe these numbers. It doesn’t seem like they even tried to factor in yaw

But did they measure butt to tip?

yadda yadda yadda cock length… what about girth? My GF loves my girth. As they say, long and thin goes right in but short and thick does the trick! When it comes to measuring length, if you measure from the ball sack the measurement is longer than if you measure on top; just saying!

Who calculates this? Is there some guy whose job is to go around measuring penises all day?

I remember one woman who swore to me her man had a 14 inch dick,

Not that I cared. But she seemed to genuinely believe it.

Your chart should be a histogram — the y-axis % doesn't make sense for a continuous curve.

If this is the truth, then why do women buy dildos as big as tree trunk?

Apparently more men buy those than women

Can we get a number for median here? I need a chance to feel average

Kinda depends on where the measuring starts, no? I've known dudes who measure from anus to tip (which would be a seriously 'glass half full' attitude)

Woah. I am way more hung than I thought. Now I got beautiful data to back it up.

I feel less bad about my dick now.

I’ll trust the science, but I’m not even sure where I’m supposed to measure from

Europeans! To the unit converter!

And men in straight porn basically do it for free

So, you're telling me I have a chance? ...YES!

For my European fellows: 5.16 inches are 13.1 cm

McMurray is almost there. 5.15 inches

What about girth?!!!! Please , this is an emergency!!

I would be interested to see the same graphic, but with median instead of mean.

It must be great to be in that 1% size.

All measurements are from the tip to the center of the butthole right

Just another reason to take down the 1%.

Are these using prober TMI adjusted units?

Measured from the bottom right?

Above both means, let's fucking go

It looks like there is a market in the porn industry for average sized penis. Where do I sign up?

How does this info track with body mass of the sampled people? What are the averages for people of larger and smaller stature?

I'm going to have to rethink everything I thought I knew now...

Are we taking flaccid or... uh, not?

I wonder how they get these measurements. Is it hard?

Prob relatively more micropenises in porn too - I wanna see the whole chart! :D (Also RIP Wood)

Ahem. What about, uh, girth?

What about growers vs showers? As a grower I have a tiny flaccid p p I don't want anyone to see but I'm quite pleased with the erect length.

However, due to recently collected data, we are making one change.Ā The national average for penis length is now officially moved, from 6 inches to 1.5 inches.

If you made a ruler that was scaled down by 75% most people wouldn’t never know!

I think this means I can get a job in porn

Physical body also impacts a lot on size.

A 15cm penis will look different if you are slim and skinny or fat.

Yeah I'm still way below real average :(

Also I'm fairly sure some races definitely are more homogenous than others and show significant difference.

I tend to imagine myself as the average, but I guess I’m not average. Unless this country is not mine.

Saving this post for when I need to feel better about myself.

But where is the girth graph?

My buddy McMurray will be happy to see this. I'm not gonna show him though cuz he's kind of a piece of shit.

Length, TIMES width, multiplied by the angle of the shaft, squared.

It's TMI, people!

Interesting, but what about average penis length while erect?

Hey oh! I'm in the 1% of something.

I'm an outlier!

Not telling you what side of the bell curve, but nonetheless, I am an outlier!

You have a 3 inch clitoris!

I'm more micro than that, thank you very much

Tell me, schatze, is it twue what they say about the way you people are... ...

Doesn't go lower than 3 inches? Well I guess I'm not included in the graph :(

Length times Girth over Angle of the Shaft (aka YAW) divided by mass over WIDTH = T.M.I.

Is this regarding flacid or erect penis measurements? It would be interesting to see a similar study on "growers vs showers"

Uuuuummmmm......You sure about that last one?

What does this account for data available to gay porn stars? Some of the most successful gay porn stars are on the shorter side. You can Google porn stars by popularity and check their size statistics

It gives ā€œedgeā€ case new meaning. šŸ˜‚

Good thing my ethnicity is asian, caucasian, african, european and egyptian.

Go ahead and just save this image for later confrontations.

They should really write inches in bold, had a panic attack for a second

Still 3 cm under the average at most lmao

Thanks science. With all my heart

Yours sincerely

1%er

Long and thin goes too far in but short and thick does the trick

Finally something I’m above average in

Amazing Now do graph for girth, and then another for volume

OK, now I feel a little better about myself. Not much though, the size doesn't bother me as much as the shape - mine is a helix.

It does remind me of some video I watched a while ago where a bunch of women were given modeling clay and asked to sculpt their perfect penis. And they all ended up with elephant dicks with circumference of a fire extinguisher.

If you want to have a larger sound penis length move to a country that uses cms

Oh hey I was in this, I thought the average was 6.

Let's see if this post beats the pubic hair one.

Welp time to go down this rabbit hole

I'm guessing the measurements are done while hard?

Given the asymmetrical tail, the mean would not be directly at the peak and you should have included the median.

But here's the thing though. So I have an above average size apparently, yet EVERY fucking dick I see that ain't even a pornstars dick, is bigger than mine. Like I seen this video of a dude getting KO'd butt naked yesterday and he had a schlong down to his ankles.

So a 7 inch penis is in the top 1% of penis sizes??

Let me just ask: Measured how exactly? From where? In what state? How was it angled when measured?

And did everyone who makes up these statistics measure the same way, or did they just write their length on a questionnaire? (Meaning any answer will differ greatly depending on how they actually measured)

The question is…. Is it measured from the top of the shlong or the base of the penis?

William Dafoe is always smiling for a reason, he is at an interesting spot on the bell curve (keep going right...)

It ain't about length baby, it's all girth.

Now do perceived height of average folks compared to pro basketball players

Alright guys, I found a new career, always thought I didnt have enough for it, but now I feel reassured, thanks OP

Because they are children basing sex on porn and are literally dumber than the last generation because of social media. I learned a TON from porn growing up. But I was also raised to not be an idiot and understood the ā€œshowmanshipā€. Any child who chooses to google these types of things will be informed.

Less 'mean' seems like a good thing, right? Sensitive ladies... right?

So you're saying women say they have bigger dicks than the mean population

Outlier dicks are soooo not normal

Any studies about preferred proportions? Do people prefer larger people to have larger dicks to look proportional or do people prefer larger dicks on smaller guys cause it's, proportional to the body, larger appearing?

There's a more important girth-related question for those of us quite near average length. Somewhere (tiktok maybe) I heard that for circumference a guy was "big" if it couldn't fit inside a toilet paper tube?

Hopefully that's true for my feelings.

One more reason to be upset with the 1%

Mean pornstar dick lets goooooo

what's the cm equivalent?? Asking for a f..- just asking.

So I can tell my fiance I have a "real mean penis"?

Top 10 percent - good to know.

No, you see, men have huge penises, some just choose to put more of it in their personality than others.

If this graph is legit. I’m packing more than I realized

So you're saying that average is.... 5.15 inches?

Glad to know I fit the Peen Mean.

Why is the mean of the IRL lengths marked as the peak of the curve when there's a big tail on the right side? Shouldn't that skew things?

Already knew I had a pornstar penis. Growing up I thought I was small or average. Porn does that to you

Well fuck I needed this ego boost for real

America is baaaaack! Backbackback! Backbackback!

Lol how the fuck am I closer to porn mean than I am perceived? I don’t like this math can someone remath and help me understand why I still am not happy with my penis size?

My cock is the only thing I have going for me

If this is true then I’m seriously starting an Onlyfans page and calling that casting call number for Blacked. Y’all talk all the shit about me in my reply section all y’all want, I just refuse to believe the average is that low and I ESPECIALLY don’t believe the mean porn star penis length is that low too. Even with the camera tricks and all that are used in porn…this is asking for too much if I’ma believe this one.

But what about the guys with 3 inches long but 7 inches wide, how does that affect the graph? Asking for a friend...

Weird that you don’t have any pornstar measurements under 5ā€ though I guess those micro dick guys aren’t really stars, just reddit mods.

Are they measuring bone pressed or just skin to tip?

So you're telling me I'm top 10% when I thought I was bang on average?

Bigger than average porn star! Woot woot

this is the fakest news since trump was elected

Is it weirder to get it wrong because of porn or to already know what the average is?

So porn is composed from the normal distribution of men, but it's... the long tail.

Im in this graph. . . and she claims she can't feel it yet.

That mean bitch.

The middle gap of a toilet paper roll is basically average, in length and girth.

I've never been so happy to be average

Wow this really hits home, I certainly did not expect to be well into the top 10% clocking in at 6.4 inches. There goes one minor insecurityšŸ˜‚

Then again "but babe, didn't you see the statistic on reddit" probably doesn't play so well in the bedroom

Can you change the x axis to make the distributions look more phallic?

Takeaway: women probably think your dick is small.

I love how im in the 95th percentile of real men

No correlation between race and length? I'm not buying it.

This... this is validating... Thank you.

I’ve read somewhere the misconception about ween size and race is because black dudes are showers and white dudes are growers.

I could have been a porn star…? I mean had a V8…

If I’m 8 what percent am I?

So am I 3 sigma being at 8ā€?

Serious, what is it like having a big one?

Women are so toxic and watch too much porn

Again though., it doesn’t matter if you’re bottoming out. Just as long as you’re banging it off the walls.

lol this is so false, almost every dude i know has a dick at least 7"

I just noticed that this sub has a lot of members.

Ok but how do people do at estimating girth/circumference?

Guess I have an average porn size dick.

I'm in that unfortunate number

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Don’t need credit if you have a big dick bruh

So, one in four guys has a big cock?

7.5 reporting here , thank you internet

Actually this chart is not correct. The average penis size is about 10 inches.

I mean, I’m 10 inches and I’m about average so that’s gotta be the average

Meanwhile all the women owns 15 inch dildos šŸ˜‚

This is gonna be buried but also- length is kind of overrated.

Girth. That’s the money maker.

There are quite a few differences between countries. Average in Cambodia and Ecuador differs by over 7 cm.

If you are curious about your country: https://www.worlddata.info/average-penissize.php

Top 1% fuck yeah! Im finally a high achiever at something.

I dont know about there being no correlation between races and penksength. The different countries of the world clearly have different lengths according to the data.

Well my wife's one lucky lady

Holy shit! I'm only 13/16ths away from being a porn star?! Time to lose some weight.

I suddenly feel a lot better

Are these stats based on a flaccid state or an erect state?

Well this is uplifting news today.

Also those in porn are actually really short. Everyone looks like their packin when the guy is 5' 4'' and the girls are 4'

Does this take into account TMI? It should.

You can calculate your Adjusted Penis Size (or TMI) with the following formula: ((L*D)+(W/G))/(A^2) Length times Diameter plus Weight over Girth divided by Angle of the tip squared

This graph better have culled that one guy with the foot and a half schlong

Don't be mean about my dick huh?

Why is penis size not normally distributed?

This is a normal distribution, you can tell by the bell curve. It's abnormal when it comes to porn bc those individuals are picked out of the 1% of the entire population creating It's means and extremes in that subsection.

Like that South Park episode TMI season 15 , episode 4.🤣🤣🤣

I, McMurray, have a penis the length of 5.15 inches!

How are ya now.

Ah, it's good to be the king

Sweet I have a pornstar penis

Iirc height is the only correlating factor

"fuck the 1%" takes on a while new meaning here...

Oh man, I'm an absolute unit now

Funnily enough, the Porn side of the chart resembles a penis

How did they measure perceived mean? Self reporting numbers or comparison of actual penises (or penis analogs)?

It's almost like every pornstar require 7inch and above dick length on their CV

I'm glad to know I am the bridge between two worlds. You could say the avatar of penises.

The 1% strikes again. Hogging all the money and hogging all the hog.

So if the average is actually lower then women perceive, what does that mean? Like if they see a dick that actually 5 inches and not closer to 6 will they be disappointed it didn’t stack up to their perceived average?

Ohhh ! I got me an outperformer!?

5.69 incher here. Objectively impressionable, subjectively still disappointing.

Dont know how to feel.

As long as you don't have a micro dick and she doesn't have a giant pussy there's nothing to worry about guys

So who did all the measuring to achieve this vast amount of data?

There's a huge misconception about actual mean penis size because men with smaller penises are less likely to be promiscuous and men with larger penises are more likely to be promiscuous. Therefore, people who engage in regular sex with men are more likely to see larger penises than this data reports.

I've fooled around with roughly 40 men in life and only 2 were in the 4.4-5.8 inches range. Almost all were between 6.5-7.5 inches and there were two above 8 inches. Only one I had intercourse with and it felt awful. Far too big.

dick size is mostly correlated with body size, which makes sense because everything else on the body is proportional too. if you notice the guys in porn are usually like 6 2 or taller. they dwarf those girls. a shorter guy with an equally large penis would be one who've had surgery on it or is an outlier.

What's with the super long tail on the left?

This whole thing is bullshit, the entire study the whole thing's based on is fucking useless.

They didn't use actual erect penis lengths, they used "fully stretched when flaccid".

Womens perceived mean is higher than actual? Does that mean that smaller penis are having less sex and so women see larger than the full range or does that mean they just assume they are bigger?

Why does it say no correlation between size and race. There most certainly is right? I mean race and genetics has a huge correlation with all physical attributes.

The only thing I get from this is that anybody’s penis who is exactly 8. 75 inches long is in porn

Guess I become a porn star now

Are these measurements taken when the pecker is in marshmallow mode or rocket mode?

Good to know where porn stars lie....for reasons

Where is this data coming from?

Man what a confidence boost, apparently my dick is .1 inches longer than the mean pornstar dick. I still wish it wasn't like 1.5 inches while flaccid, but hey, I'll take it.

I wanna comment on this honestly but I feel torn about it. Half will hate it half will like it. So for now just reading the comments

So does this mean my micro penis is actually usable now?

This post is just inflating my ego

Washington skews the dick size average upward

But what is the median and mode?

If you trim the hedges the house looks bigger

Still below average :')

Eh porn dicks are humungous I get there are camera tricks at play but its not as simple as it being 6-7 inches its the insane fucking girth.

Some dudes have dicks as thick as their own/definitely the women they are fucking WRISTS ffs lmfao you can't convince me its just a couple inches, again its a couple inches but way moreso girth.

Damn, I could have been a porn star. 😜

So what the APL, adjusted penis length, comparisons

Huh apparently I have a fairly big dick

I keep trying to tell my friend the perfect man is a myth

I listened to a wise pod cast, an they were saying. Maybe us guys should measure or junk by 1/4 inches, like I’m rockin 14 quarter inches, sounds really good lol.

That real distribution between 6.5-9 is interesting. Is it really a flat line? Same percentage of 7 through 9-inch penises in reality?

Also I’d be curious to see the cut off part of the graph. Got some real third-leggers getting cast out of the .1% over 9.

Finally, while I agree with the assertion there is no direct correlation between race and length, the distributions of penis size do differ by race.

https://medium.com/@whitep/the-average-penis-size-by-race-df9e52b19df0

That's why God gave everyone fists, the great equalizer!

/s

Ahhh the top 1 percent are benefitting more again

I knew there was no real correlation between race and size, but I do wonder if there is a correlation between race and whether you are a ā€œshowerā€ or ā€œgrowerā€. Probably not and it’d be much harder to test for but still

My day just got a little better..

god the amount of insecure and/or black pilled men as well as judgmental women i've talked to about this is so frustrating. people thinking they have a micropenis at 4.5. you're on the lower end of average, chill tf out/ stop being so dense.

source: gay guy

91% are shorter than the mean perceived by men

85% are shorter than the mean perceived by men

So only 15% of men "measure up" to what women expect?

depends if you text her the next day...

How much porn are people watching?

I'm top 1% at something I'll never be known for.

why is the blue porn star curve penis-shaped??

Minor labeling issue, this is actually a density plot not a histogram, as the y-axis suggests.

i find it funny they never clarified flaccid or hard

Penises that are longer when flaccid don't change size that much when erect. Smaller penises grow more. I wouldn't intimidate anyone when I'm down, but up is a respectable 6, and I've never had any complaints.

Great, now can we stop using Small Dick Energy as a way to insult others. According to this, most of us have a small penis, based on assumptions.

This is where my supervillian arch starts

Do they measure swim base or balls??

i guess searches for online ruler jump alot after this post

Do women's penis length next

Thanks, I needed to see this. For awhile there, I felt quite inadequate. Penis crisis. Averted.

Hol'up....I guess I should be doing porn?

Good to know I'm slightly qualified for porn

I have a REALLY MEAN PENIS

Also, I feel like there’s not that many male pornstars (in heterosexual porn at least) so the mean could be a lot bigger for that reason too. Like for every 3 female stars theres 1 mega sized male star, and they like rotate between scenes šŸ˜‚ ofc that’s just guessing and no fact checking at all

Im almost to porn star mean! Toot toot!

There's no way this is accurate. >!Or I should thank my parents, and consider a career change.!<

Just remember you too "can calculate your Adjusted Penis Size (or TMI) with the following formula:

((L*D)+(W/G))/(A^2) Length times Diameter plus Weight over Girth divided by Angle of the tip squared"

-South Park

So I have a porn star penis... great?

Actually it's not. Makes sex uncomfortable for some.

There's no correlation between race and penis size? Really?

My T.M.I length is a massive 1.4 inches up 0.2 inches from the 1.2 inches that the school measured and posted!

The fact that I used to worry about dick size when I was in the top 1% the whole time is just so bizarre and stupid. What a waste of teen angst.

I'm a top bisexual man. TMI incoming. Don't read if you don't want to know my past partner sizes.

I understand the data. Here are my past partners and mine. I go for twinks, so I assume less body fat percentage make them longer. Also if you are larger, you're more likely to more sexually active and confident. Theses numbers do no represent real world data. Just look on the pron subreddits here, camera angles, body type, and confidence goes a long way.

I know the sizes because I'm very open about information and actually talk to my partners.

4 partners were under 4.5" They all said I was large.

I'm at 6"

4 at 6-6.5".

1 at 7" and baseball bat shaped and baseball bat thick. My thickest.

1 at 7.25" and baseball bat shaped pretty thick.

1 at 8+" and evenly thicker than glade air freshener can all the way through. My largest. He was so happy that I didn't make sex about his size. He was always disappointed that people were want to be topped by him when he wanted to be bottomed.

Im hung like a tuna can.. Will never reach the bottom, but imma stretch them sides..

And in a unit the rest of the world can understand?

Can't wait to point to this to explain how I'm actually above the real average just to see a door shutting behind her

I’m willing to bet some inches this is factual as I have been told that 9ā€ I am too much, although it’s only when they leave me………

I’m seeing a lot of arm-chair dick & race experts in this comment section.

So you’re telling me, that everyone’s way up there? FUCK YEAH! .0000001 nanometer defeater gang

Who is participating in this and how is the research conducted, also why is the research conducted?

Young European volunteers, Indians in an erectile dysfunction clinic and elderly people in the US.

That's what the "real size" is based on here. I kid you not.

There's no way that porn star mean is only 7.1

holy crap im in the top 25%. finally im good at something

I imagine we are assuming this is erect lengths? They should definitely specify. Especially because flacid lengths would require a consistent temperature for consistent measurement among other things.

i'm surprised to learn that 95% of my hookups are porn sized instead of average; it's too bad i don't like bottoming. lol

Here I am with my micro penis

So, In real we have small penis

Nice I'm in the top 1% of something

downvotes for freedomunits and for asinine dismissal of reality.

Whats goin on with that little bump over there at 9 that seems promising

Still waiting for the NSFW part.

But what’s the girth worth? How bout Circumference? Diameter? Radius? Topography? Frequency?

That population curve is pretty Gaussian. Amirite?

The website http://howlongismyschlong.com/ tells you where you are in terms of lenght and girth compared to the rest of the population :)

Has data is beautiful has never boosted my confidence more.

Finally getting this info out there, thank you!

Why is the right tail of real distribution so, well, long? What this suggests is that the probability of a 7 in penis is as high as the probability of a 8.5 in penis, which can't be right. Is this an artifact of the chosen density function?

Great now i feel like bit of sideshow attraction. I always thought 7 the standard.

And I always thought that dick in porn were just normal size

Because it looks normal to me

You know, things have been rough for me for awhile - as they have for everyone, to be sure. In my case it’s marriage troubles, financial strain, some mild depression. Bored at work. Not to mention Covid and the general dumpster fire that is my country’s political landscape.

But then this plot came along and just perked me right up. Kind of makes me feel like singing the song Enormous Penis by Da Vinci’s Notebook at the top of my lungs.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EWMPVn1kgIQ

Thanks, OP! You’ve cured my depression with a graph.

I was told I’m at least average..

Ever since that one south park episode I don't trust penis size statistics. I think they deliberately adjust the average down so that most people feel good about being above average. It will literally solve most of the world's problems.

Well today I learned that my husband, the only penis I've seen in real life, has a huge... Ahem

I have seen many, many dicks. Obviously this is anecdotal but there is no way I would ever believe these conclusions of the data.

But did they factor in the yaw?

I don’t really spend too much time dwelling on the body I was given, but i sure am glad I didn’t get the 3 inch dick. My pinky finger is two and a half.

No correlation between race and penis size? I don't believe that.

i assume specifically erect penis measurements, taken from pelvic bone to tip? if so, i guess i got a porn penis. the most erect it can get is 8 inches although its hard to keep it at that length so prob about 7.5 inches is my average. and for flacid mine is between 4 and 5 depending on the temperature

I need to know, are these measurements soft or hard???

What measurement technique was used here?

According to Dr Randy Marsh, your adjusted penis length can be calculated by the formula [(length x diameter) + (Weight / Girth)] / Angle of TipĀ 2.

measured hard, semi, or soft?

Is penis enlargement a real thing? Or is that just internet clickbait nonsense?

Asking for a friend.

Shockingly in an unrelated and purely coincidental I watched a video about penis sizes by a urologist yesterday, according to her neither surgically or tool related wise has worked confidentally or well to say they have a means of increasing a man's penis size.

She however say that a machine you attach for multiple hours a day for months on end that stretches the penis works, however for the commitment you put in people have only increased by .2cm I believe she said.

So sadly for the men with small pps they are stuck with them.

That last point is an important and true one

It absolutely is not true. Not even the author of the study said that, OP just made it up.

Porn stars are on average 2 inches longer? Seems suspect. . .

Im killing it then I thought more than six was above average, short kings unite

what are the statistics for dads?

IS DAD DICK REAL? TELL ME

What the heck is Dad Dick?

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Porn is more than having a big dick

i dont the believe the race correlation

Interesting, but median is more relevant for lenght estimation, and it is even shorter than mean, around 5.11 inches

Size Distribution

For female pleasure, girth is more important, and the median is around 4.5 inches of circumference.

Girth

thats cute, im a 6.7 inches... width šŸ˜Ž

Does length tranfer genetically though?

no link between race and size? this is going to offend people, but is there anyone here who has seen any Japanese porn? I don't think its simply stereotype invading my perception; those guys absolutely appear to have smaller dicks than just about anyone else. am I losing my mind?

Height and penile length are also linked, although the correlation isn't as strong as one would assume, because height also depends on nutrition, while penile length does not.

Asian men have less height, therefore also less penile length, on average. It's absolutely absurd to state that Thai or Filipino men would have the same penile length as Dutch or Bosnian men, when there is like a 20-25cm average height difference.

I am losing my mind because nobody actually read the study and realizes how TERRIBLY FLAWED the data set was.

Penis seizes aren’t racist?

Seizing penises is beyond racist; it’s a human rights violation

Don't worry guys I'm helping bring the average down for the rest of you

Never, NEVER measure without a partner arousing you first. Length-wise, I gained a half inch when my wife did it vs myself.

I gained 1 inch whe your wife did it

The claim that race has no bearing on penis size is interesting considering the differences we see in average length between countries. Congo's average is much much bigger than Korea's. Are you saying it's the diet, or environment, or what? Will a korean who was born in Congo and lived there their entire life have an 18cm (Congo average) dick?

Women also don't know how to measure things, so they might think you have a longer penis than you actually do.

Are they including baby dicks in this average? /s

Guess I'm not average.. let's go

Sad there is no 12 inches, then you get a foot up someone’s ass.

If youre between 5 and 6 inches, youre a normal dude, move on, nothing to see here.

Once again these ā€œresearchersā€ forgot to account for yaw. I’m so angry right now I could storm a FedEx!

I'm not sure that a tad over half an inch of the mean equates to "vastly" overestimating, but okay!

The worrying thing is that graph of pornstar peckers isn't finished after 10 inches. There's still more data out there.

The claim that race makes no difference interests me, as the data on average penis length by country reinforces racial stereotypes, and shows there is a clear difference between countries. Seeing those statistics, you also see no pattern regarding wealth, healthcare, or weather of the country, while you do see a pattern in ethnicity. So if its not race, then I ask, what is the pattern? Is it a non genetic cause?

This is really no correlation between race and p*nis length? That's a interesting one.

Feeling good ,mine is more than mean

I love that theres a peak at 9 inches...

I really would not expect the mean to be 5, so I definitely fall into the overestimating group. Wouldn't say as high as 6 as the average, but would absolutely believe 5.5 over just 5.

finally, the next time they say I have small dick I can show them this

measure pp

still under real mean

ah, shit

No one ever seems to consider that a lot of porn star males are some combo of manlet/skinny, and an average sized dick would look bigger on such a man.

i knew this was a thing but not that it was this.... big lol

This is a significant societal problem, so many of us going round feeling inadequate or disappointed for no good reason, or worse becoming bitter MGTOWs etc.

lmao the x-axis starts at 3.0 in that kinda hurts

I made a potential life, my dick is big enough

damn boys i'm in the top .5%. too bad no-one will ever fuck me.

No correlation between race and penis length? I’m pretty sure that’s wrong. We all know the stereotypes because there’s at least some truth to them.

Nice bigger than the average porn star 😜

Lol down votes because of something I can't control, got it.

Downvotes for an unsourced claim. Particularly on a website where 7ā€+ claims are as common as dirt.

Well I'm not one to send dick pics, believe me or not, won't change my day

and looser too i bet

Yeah, the biggest loser

There is no correlation between race and length?

The last point is literally wrong though, right? I've seen stats about mean length from different region and there is an obvious correlation. What's going on here?

Op lost me too on this point

My only guess is that the population they're pulling from is relatively homogeneous or it's a small total sample size.

Fake data and debunked, basically.

Seems legit to me.

Where's your data?

Oh, right you're talking about OP.

so when my wife tells me my 6" long 6" circumference dick is big she's not lying to make me feel good? I always figured I was spot on average.

If you want to feel good about yourself put your info in here mr 99.69 percentile in girth.

https://calcsd.info/

Great resource for figuring out condom sizing too.

6 inch girth is pretty fuckin fat my guy. Congratulations on ur fat cock

No correlation between Race and Penis length? The blacks and the Asians would like to have a word with you.

Nice to know I'm in the top 1%

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Not according to this study

Is this flaccid? Seem like rookie numbers

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By engaging a troll you already lost. There's nothing to be gained here

Wise words, BlowJobJousting. Wise words.

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lmao white boy larping as a black guy

the average length of black male penis is 14.75cm and the average length of white male penis is 14.5cm. The difference is about 0.25cm which is 0.1 inches, or about half the thickness of a pencil difference.

your comment is delusional, probably from watching porn where interracial is treated as taboo and a black actor cannot get selected unless he's exceptionally well endowed.

This has got to be some of the wildest projection I've ever seen in my entire life. Do you just hop on your throwaway to be weird as fuck? The only strong correlation to race being related to dick size is a few extremely small communities around the world breaking the average (whether its above or below).

Overall, race tends not to play too much of a factor. On top of that, black men absolutely despise the notion "all black men are hung." It dates back to the slavery Era where black men were treated like animals and used just for sex, so the white ladies just picked whichever ones they wanted. So well done coming to the comments to be weird and wrong. Clown

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*no correlation except for we jews are huuung. ( ron jeremy for example )

All the little guys going to be upvoting this like crazy

Perhaps there’s also no correlation between having a big one and getting more action. Source: .1% penis and have not had any action or interest in 3 years #proudincel

So in that sense, size doesn’t matter. But if you consider that big dicks can break ā€˜er walls down like nobody’s business šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø

Sorry this is my favorite topic

You ever hear the joke: "There's two types of people in the world, those who masturbate and liars?"

There's no such thing as a proud involuntary celibate. Because if there were, they would be voluntarily celibate. Involuntary means you would like to get laid, but haven't or can't.

You are a proud voluntary celibate. And that is perfectly fine.

You seem to think I should be ashamed of who I am or my failures in dating, or am I missing something??

Nope. Absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. Just stop referring to yourself as an incel, let alone a proud one. It doesn't exist. You're just a regular person like anybody else who has trouble getting laid. I went for years (way longer than 3) without getting laid before I met my future wife.

If fact you said so yourself in your comment that you haven't had interest in 3 years. That sound like someone trying to get laid but failing? If you're being honest with yourself and truly have no interest, than you're just celibate. Also nothing to be ashamed of. If you aren't being honest with yourself, and you WOULD like to get laid, stop calling yourself an incel. That's putting yourself in a box and then slapping a label on it. It'll make it alot harder to get out of that box and get what you want, because you start to think of yourself as a victim or that you're worthless etc etc.

Nobody goes out to the club, comes home alone and thinks: "Wow, I failed at bringing somebody home. Again. I'm so proud." I'm nearly 50 years old and will be married for 20 years this year. Stop being so hard on yourself. I would love to reach 30 years into my past and grab myself by the scruff and tell myself to "stop being so hard on yourself. It does nothing." There are women out there right now, that would like to fuck you, if you make yourself halfway presentable. You just can't sit around waiting for them to show up gift wrapped. I went down that road way too long thinking I was owed a partner because I just existed.

I hope you take this to heart, because it wasn't intended to be mean or cruel, but to give you some old guy perspective.

I’ll keep reading but perhaps a miscommunication. I’ve not received any interest, definitely been interested myself.

I am hearing you, OG!

I hear you and am definitely open/hopefully. I guess this type of talk just helps me cope. Joking about it: beyond the whole ā€œself loveā€ thing.

I think it’s also important to make the whole ā€œincelā€ thing a bit more playful and shift the conversation away from its ā€˜misogyny’ or more virulent tendencies

Based on these statistics I should be a porn star. Happy days ahead.

Huh - TIL I have a pornstars cock.

And here I thought it had to be 9 - 12 inches.

as a gay man who has gone through a LOT of dicks, there most DEFINITELY is size correlation to race. all my slutty friends say the same thing.

Funny, I absolutely disagree. Anecdotes are like that I guess. I’ve never noticed it make any significant difference. If anything, there’s more expectation on black guys because of it, and I’ve been with a few who felt pressured by that (which is horrible and sad.) I’m sure the same is for others.

Even if there is an actual difference, it’s going to be so statistically small that it won’t even matter.

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All I know is I’m above mean regardless

So you're saying, that packing 7.5 is in fact a lot more rare than I think it is?

I have exactly 8ā€. I always thought I was a bit on the small side or at least average. I blame the pepper mill porn guys for skewing my judgement.

Me, with a 7.5inch penis - "I should be a porn star..."

5 inches is tiny. No wonder you guys can't get laid.

They can’t get laid because their penises are too small? How do their potential sex partners know this and discriminate on that basis?

There is no correlation between race and penis length

Prove it. Take different races out and see if the graph changes. Or better yet, make graphs just for specific races and compare it to this graph.

I've only come across 1 single person who didn't lie about their dick being larger than it was. He warned me but I never expected a 5"6" skinny femboy to have a 10" donkey dick. That was my first gay sex.

I was very sorely disappointed the next couple times when dudes had actual normal sized dicks

Well, if this is accurate I’m ok.

Its not the length but the width! LOL...

(ever hit her cervix and have her cry? Its not pleasant ...well for her)

Alright! Going to porn, see y’a later nerds!

Guess I should be a pornstar then

No correlation between race and penis? I legitimately thought black people had bigger penises.

There is no correlation between race and penis length

How tf can this be true? It's common knowledge that asians are on the short end and black people are on the longer end. Like, everyone knows this. I am highly suspect of this data.

I'm really top 1%. Blimey

I'm 7+ but I'd sacrifice and inch for a little more girth. For ergonomic reasons, of couse.

to be fair this is flawed data because women don't know how long 6 inches is

TIL I'm "porn star mean". I dunno how to feel about that.

There’s no way that 7.1 inches is the top 1% of penises

Welp, this just boosted the fuck out of my ego! Science, it's fantastic!!

99th percentile represents šŸ™Œ

This is bullshit. I get tired of studies on penis size like this because there just ain’t no way…

Race definitely plays a part, this chart pulled that out of its ass

Why not a gauss distribution curve shaped like a Bell or almost.

It’s like the extreme are artificially flattened to make small penis feel better

seems to me that the length of a guys second toe correlates often. longer second toe relative to the big toe usually means bigger penis

This made my day, I’ve got a longer penis than the mean pornstar length. Everything else in my life might suck, but at least I have that.

Huh.... I'm an average porn actor... Well you made my day good sir/mam

mean between who? there are many asian people with 3 inches and your graph, the 3 is the lowest

Hmmm I can't seem to find my length here. It doesn't go up to double digits.

I guess I should do porn? Always though I was a little over average but not porn star level. Maybe that says more about the porn I watch...

5.2 is a small average (I don't have a huge dick either but that's pretty low for average)

When straight men watch straight porn, do they cover the male penis? Do they get off on it? Do they lie to themselves and say that’s them penetrating the girl? Haha they confuse me so much.

I prefer ladies enjoying solo time, at least 90% of the time. If there is a real dick involved I do prefer it to look like mine if it's a POV video. Not pretending it's me, it just makes it easier to not be distracted by the dick, my focus is on the technique and/or effect on the lady. For uh... training purposes lol

"There is no correlation between race and penis length" doesn't sit well with me.

Is there a correlation between height and race? Am I wrong to say that Dutch are taller than Vietnamese?

The statement should be there is no correlation between penis length and height.

Do you think that your height actually correlates with your dick size?

hang on but isn't there a correlation between height and length?!?

I would assume so of course

A tad bigger than an iphone 11, ~~So suck it average sized men!~~

Rulers? real men use iphones

Edit,

No wait, dont suck it actually...

"There is no correlation between race and penis size" 🧢
We've collected enough visual data to know this is not true lol

Its brutal being above the average, but having a partner who wants bigger.

Now so it with trans women too. Because as a trans lesbian, I have met so many trans girls with 7+ inches and idk why.

Damn I’m never gonna feel bad about my penis length again apparently I’m in the top 1 percent

Thanks assortment of data!

My question now is wether the mean is going to grow in the future. What was the average penis length 10,20,50 years ago?

These charts are fantastic for my ego.

Outliers may be arrested, or married to GOP congresswomen!

hard or soft… How is this not clearly stated

Damn how insecure must the guys who did this study must be? /s

I used to think I had an average dick growing up but it turns out the guy who would occasionally get drunk and whip his dick out was just massive (and a shower aka huge flaccid).

Wasn’t until a GF made me look it up that I realized I’m living the good life on the far right tail end of the distribution.

Sometimes porn distorts reality, sometimes it’s your friend with a massive hog that gets whipped out at parties.

TMI.
1) bigger than most when erect but still looks small so feel bad for you all.
2) flip side, smaller than most when flaccid. Very embarrassing at doctor visits.

Holy shit I’m actually above average at something, guess this makes up for being an out of shape talentless waste of space everywhere else in my life

Nice I got a pretty good dick.

Fuckkkk I’m the top 1% of penis size šŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’Ŗ

Depends where you live. Most people live in Asia and average penis size there is significantly smaller than in Europe or America. Geography alone can easily change the average by an inch. To say that there is no correlation between race and penis length is a lie.

Above average in the house woot woot

I have a really hard time believing that length and ethnicity are not correlated.

Height and ethnicity ARE correlated as far as I understand so I would expect length to be proportional to height. It doesn’t make sense to me that these wouldn’t be related.

Well guess what, I’m above average 🤩

All of us at

r/bigdickproblems

Love this post šŸ‘

Fuck yea I got a porn star dick ! 🄹

No correlation for length? Patently false

Lmao 5 inches is average? That's really pathetic lol

I’m only 0.1ā€ away from being a Pornstar snorts

I've always thought 5.5 was avg... But remember everyone, it's not about the length it's about the girth šŸ¤”šŸ¤­

So, you tell me that I can be a pornstar with my dick right where distributions are crossing (~6.3)? Probably won’t be the best one, but I should consider resigning from university for this dream life, fuck science

I would make for an incredible pornostar according to this data

There is correlation between population and penis length.

sooooo if its curved, do I inner and outer curve, then divide by two??? I suck at math!

You have to calculate the arc length. Gunna have to brush up on your geometry, unless the curb is not constant, in which case you will have to work with variable curvature.

Americans overestimate people using the imperial system

Footlong corn dog must have a different meaning where you are from…

They measure your foot. Also wtf is a corn dog.

It is well know that ((length * diameter) + (weight / girth))/(angle of the tip)^2a is the true size

Missing the race based penis data, shame

as a teen i watched porn and fought "yeah that seems about right maybe a bit small" wasn't until i was a bit older it dawned on how far outside the norm i actually am.

Doesn’t vary with race? I find that hard to believe, when every other physical aspect is.

I bet it correlates with height not race.

But of course some races are taller/ shorter than others.

Ah maybe that’s it! Would go with Asians being more modest and Africans being above average.

To anyone out there hurting, there’s surgery to get taller and penis transplants are a thing!

Is there really no correlation between race and penis length? I’ve seen similar posts showing that different countries have different means, so one would think that this would extend to races in general.

Whew! I'm 5.3 inches. Just over average! Mwahahahaha!

Yay, I'm a whole 0.34 above the mean!

I disagree there is correlation between race and size. When I go to race I can swear it's at least 8in

In my personal experience there is definitely a correlation between race and size/length. Even among sub-groups of the same race.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/penis-size-by-country

we sure about the last point?

If there’s no correlation between race and length why do different countries have wildly different averages?

I dont understand how this data is collected?
If there is one thing we cant know for sure is EVERY males dick measure on this planet, and going by asking like 2% of world population then collect data and say "this is average and this is not" is just guessing game

No correlation between race & size, what an odd thing to add.

No correlation between race and dick size, really?

"there is no correlation between race and penis length"

this is absolutely false, studies have shown different

Is there really no difference in race?

Mine's 18 cm, don't know how much that is in American

Gotta change name to AvrgSausage then.

This is a huge relief for this baby-dick-having SOB

I've always been insecure about my size, looking at this graph didn't help me be more secure 🄺

Women e expect you to have T the very least 7 inches. Else you get called small dicked. Unrealistic expectations.

Did they include blurry Japanese cock in this graph?

A guy with a small dick made this.

Where is this data coming from?

Another dated graph using a redundant imperial system.

I'm glad it's inch you're talking about. So no other than Muricans will care.

Lmfao at that average range

Nah

I would not trust this data since it says there is no correlation between size and race..

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So, you are telling me that asian men and black men have similar p sizes?

TIL i am 1.5 inches above mean porn star penis length

Of course the one thing I'm in the top 1% I can't brag about to people on normal conversation. Figures.

I always thought my dick was small. Then I started having sex. The more partners I had, the more I realized it is absolutely not small. Not a monster by any means, but it'll definitely do some damage.

Let’s just say I’m packing boys. Top 25%. Can I get a hoo ah!

Someone with a 5.9 inch penis made this

Women have been telling me years that I have a massive dong. I always felt that it was average.

This opens up some life choices for me.

I'm sorry but if you are average you are small lmao

Why mean and not average? I can usually understand the rational behind using mean but it doesn't seem to apply here?

No correlation between race and dick length? I ain't buying that bruh

Muhuhuhahahahah that’s right king dong up in this piece I got a lengthy girth monster I’m the top .2 percent cause these numbers are tinny