Cyberpunk and neo Tokyo are my faves
Cyberpunk and neo Tokyo are my faves
80s/90s anime masterrace for the handdrawn stuff alone
shit looked so good back then
The absolute dedication to perfect mechanical detail and consistency from that era is something I've never really seen the feel of replicated in modern day digitally animated series. Something about the requirement for perfection on cel animated series and OVAs was amazing to behold.
Bro! Check out the movie Redline( if you haven't seen it yet). Pretty modern hand-drawn masterpiece. Really captures that retro feel with anime.
Redline is pretty goddamn nutty. It's like f-zero and akira had a crack baby. It's awesome.
My eyes hadn't bled in technicolor like that since the Speed Racer movie.
I just watched it due to this comment. I can't thank you enough. Not into "racers" but that was basically just the structure for the movie not the entire story. I wont say much in case someone else wants to find this gem out of nowhere but holy shit I will rewatch this at some point because it's that good.
The team behind it had another one too. Really interesting look at what they were leading into, rather than the race.
[Trava Fist Planet] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pT7gadYPso)
The 80's anime was my jam at the time long before being a teen, built on with 70's/early 80's tv Battle of the Planets, Star Blazers, Robotech and later, comicon vhs copies so far away from the original purchase you could count the number of bad videoheads that needed cleaning along the way.
Enjoy!
Never seen them unfortunately. Millennial working his way back through the ages. Putting them on my list!
It was free to watch on YouTube when I saw it - should still be around
Killer soundtrack too
F-Zero? *takes a puff of a cigar*
Haven't heard that name in a long time...
Damn shame it's only form of appreciation is in Smash and 1 kart + track in Mario Kart 8.
Fuckin sold.
Just don’t wake funky boi!
I recommend watching it extremely stoned.
Or tripping. Looks fucking amazing.
Redline
Looks neat and it's free on Tubi. Thanks man! Got any more? It's like the artform died after 2000. GITS was the most recent "masterpiece" style movie I know of.
Not to the same level of detail as the others mentioned, but the show Space Dandy is a super trippy and stylistic anime with episodes with guest artists and stuff. Like a super nutty anthology kinda thing. If you liked Redline you'll probably like Space Dandy.
Recline is as far as I've gotten so far, but somebody commented maybe F-zero and Akira. They said it might on tubing or YouTube so perhaps those might be good if you haven't seen yet. I'm going to check them out this weekend myself. Happy watching!
Redline is over a decade old. It’s closer to the 90’s then it is to 2022.
SEVEN YEARS
HAND ANIMATED
Redline is 13 years old. Not exactly modern.
It was modern when I watched it in 2012 my mind is still in high school gaha
Redline is so good, it's not even my flavor of anime.
Apparently it took 7 YEARS to hand-draw all of redline. Its a beauty. Speaking of beautiful animation, id suggest “bubble”
Yeah, to bad its all about money. Animation on that level costs a shitload, its easier and more profitable to produce 10 mediocre animes instead of one masterpiece.
Yeah that really sucks. Not to say there's nothing impressive coming out today, but nothing has yet to match the FEEL that such levels of sakuga were able to give me.
That's because a lot of the stuff mentioned in the thread and image post are either OVAs or movies or both.
OVAs are projects released directly to consumers from a studio with no broadcast deadlines while they're doing normal broadcast work. Since there's no deadline they can dedicate time to work on it. There's also no set amount of time for an OVA some can be normal show length some can be two hours.
Compare the Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki ova to Tenchi Universe (Tenchi Muyo! in Japan) which ran on TV.
And movies are movies. Depending on the director and budget animation can be amazing or mediocre.
Aren't 80s OVAs usually made on a small budget?
They look so good because the animators were given the proper amount of time to make them.
Unlike the current industry where you constantly see a wall of 2nd KA and Animation Directors due to the tight schedule.
True. But the answer is to stop sucking up the mediocre content and perpetuating the practice. Not just in animation. (Looking at you, Disney...)
Plus back then Japan had a shit load of cash that they threw at whatever weird anime idea someone had.
Same with Disney
CGI animation is expensive though.
Movies and stuff are done on big budget. I think they mean look at the random cartoon series' and other junk they spew out
A lot of 90s and 80s anime with amazing animation are usually from OVAs.
Which are basically just indie projects, and the thing about indie projects is that they usually have lower budgets than most.
And according to the animation producer for One Punch Man season 1 most anime have similar budgets (which are usually pretty low)
What matters most is the scheduling and connections you have.
Hayao Miyazaki: Nah.
A lot of OVAs that this is about were sold in Japan directly to customers, no theatrical release, for $100 per video for usually less than an hour of content. It was a nuts business model.
10 mediocre animes instead of one masterpiece.
Did you say isekai harem with cheat skills? Oh boy those are the bestest!!
10 mediocre anime movies convert into 20 minions movies.
Wanna revisit handdrawn anime with something from the 2009 era? Watch Redline. Bonkers plot and Handdrawn Animation. I really enjoyed it and occasionally rewatch it.
Edit: Here's a little sneak peek for anyone interested
https://youtu.be/p9PR9TkHUTQ
The truth?
In 2002 Japan banned magic mushrooms, after that anime and manga went from cyborg space gundams to mundane, everyday topics like volleyball and cooking.
Did they have any labor law changes that you know of that could have had additional effects? Animation is a taxing enough process as it is, but I also know Asian countries like Japan are notorious for encouraging workaholic behavior (or punishing non-workaholics)
Reality is the japanese economy collapsed (look up bubble era japan) and the previously near infinite budgets that flowed into animation got cut down more and more until we are where we are today.
This is also what caused studios to focus on the otaku market and become less creative
A law was also passed where you cant show gore on TV. That's why there is hardly any gore in modern anime, maybe at the most blood spray or silhouettes of people being cut up.
Also, they started to outsource more and more parts of the animation process to other studios in Asia to save costs, and that started to make the end results more and more inconsistent
Is that what happened with the Armitage III OVA? It’s a great anime, imo, but the art style of the characters looked inconsistent, like there were different animators involved every episode.
Economy hasn’t collapsed. It’s stagnated.
-PhD Japanese comparative politics student.
Im by no means an expert (or know anything about labor law state in Japan really), but if i am to guess - corporate greed, nothing new. Making one Akira is time and money consuming process. When why not to make 10 pieces of garbage insted - they are easier to sell, capture wider audience and you can still keep overworking your staff
Akira was the highest budgeted movie ever in Japan when they made it, it cost something like 9 times as much as anything live action they ever made.
He says, like every cyborg space transdimensional mutant demon software ghost series didn't also have an episode where they played volleyball.
It was actually economics. In the 80s, Japan’s economy was exploding and everyone had money to burn. So prestige, high quality OVA and movies were made and sold on VHS for $100, in 1980s money. Then came the long stagnation and money dried up and anime is now produced in miserable sweatshops, and they pay animators peanuts.
I live in Japan and have met people in the industry that have admitted that "the ideas came to us on nights out partying" and "the gvmnt took away the fun because they were afraid of foreigners wandering around tripping during the world cup".
Hilarious how all the Japan experts show up and spread misconceptions and disinformation every time a discussion about Japan happens outside a Japan sub. The economy already collapsed a good seven years before anime went to shit. What is next, are you clowns going to tell us that the population is declining because people aren't fucking? ^(Japanese people fuck like rabbits, they just use protection, have easy access to abortion and can't afford kids.)
Except the heyday of the OVA was the 80s and early 90s. They weren’t making OVAs like this in 2001. It’s likely a correlation but not a causation. I’m sure a lot of creators tripped balls and got inspired to make this stuff but they stopped being financially able to before the shrooms were criminalized.
so that's when slice of life was born eh?
Watching the new Gundam Hathaway movie gave me some good old school feelings and is one of the best gundams I've watched
Megalobox replicates the older styles well and its the best anime series every made
Nomad: MegaloBox 2 was the greatest piece of fiction I have ever consumed. (Besides Bone and the first 7 episodes of Samurai Jack season 5.)
I remember watching Knockin' On Heaven's Door and thinking there was just no way that human beings had drawn some of those frames
It's not Cyberpunk or Neo Tokyo but you should check out Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust if you like hand drawn animes, it's perfectly drawn and animated
I don't think it's about the medium, it just became the norm to shrink animation budgets further and further. There are still current shows in modern styles with incredible art and detail (Demon Slayer comes to mind)
That scene in 'Akira' where Tetsuo was in the military hospital, lying on the examining table and it has all those rings and shit around it. Looked very cool. The opening credits for 'Ghost in the Shell' has some cool mechanical stuff as well.
What sucks is that now everyone just uses 3D models that have a really static, undynamic look to them
OVA Gundam from that era is insane.
Yeah it was great as long as you cherry pick and nostalgia filter everything so it's all Akira/GitS/Ghibli taking like a year+ to produce 2 hours of animation.
Go down even a bit and you find every trick in the book being pulled to save on having to animate shit.
Flashy attacks you never see because it jump cuts. Static shots of a character lip flapping or shuffling with their feet out of sight, or other uses of the same like three frames of animation. Stock footage recycled everywhere. Character off model or miscolored, or the entire thing where they eyebrows are over the hair. The entire existence of "chibi mode" gags.
Like I'll love Slayers forever but man that first season is barely watchable, especially the fight with Shabranigdo. And even Next and Try have plenty of tricks in play.
Movies and OVAs aren't immune either. Record of Lodoss War is practically a painting with narration at times, it is lovingly painted sure but it isn't very animated. Worst was probably Vampire Hunter D which was damn near incoherent.
Yeah, I've said in other posts here, but it's basically the 'hot take' of people who've watched the same 20-30 anime that are recommended from that era, that were probably licensed by ADV or Manga Entertainment because they were violent and helped carve anime into the "not just kids' cartoons" niche.
Whenever people say things like "90s ANIME WAS ALL OVA TIER ANIMATED CYBERPUNK HYPERGORE MECHA RAPE", it's an instant tell that they've barely touched anything from that era. And you see it again and again with the comments in this thread. The same recommendations ad nauseam because that's all people know.
Guaranteed that 90% of the recommendations will include any of the following: Akira, GiTS, Ninja Scroll, Urotsukidouji, City Hunter, Cyber City Oedo 808, Bubblegum, MD Geist, Violence Jack, "Gundam" (but not a specific series because they've not actually watched it and noted how it varies), Genocyber, etc.
This comment and the one you're replying to are certified, cream of the crop W takes. I wish I had some awards for you guys.
I still personally prefer hand-drawn era stuff because there's more texture, eye-pleasing colors and detail than most Modern stuff which tend to feel lifeless due to the boring colors and abuse of effects and CG-I. Also I think limited animation was part of the charm of that era, I'm glad that animation itself has improved but I still miss the more simplistic action or things like the chibi gags.
The static shots are so hilariously bad. I stopped watching anime many years ago but I was watching some clips of a modern show recently that a friend sent me. There were so many wide panning static shots with faceless characters who weren't even far in the background or only their mouths were visible with the speaker flapping their mouth. Or they have a static shot of a group of characters and the speaker is the only one not in view. The wide shots aren't even establishing the setting, they're just blatantly filler.
I know it's always been like this aside from the old school gems that aged better, but I just find anime so unwatchable now.
Like I'll love Slayers forever but man that first season is barely watchable, especially the fight with Shabranigdo. And even Next and Try have plenty of tricks in play.
True, but you really can tell Next and Try had much higher budgets.
Redline Is one of the most recent movies still done in the handdrawn style, and it looks fucking awesome. It was going to be a full season but got compressed down into just a 2h movie, and you get nonstop 'the cool part of the episode' scenes back to back as a result.
It was also massively over budget and took forever to make. As much as I love it I understand why they stopped doing things that way.
Oh yeah, I get why, I'm just glad something that cool came out of that cluster.
Show this to all my friends who like anime
Anime girls from that era have a certain charm many modern girls don't. Nobody compares to Misato and the girls from Lamu (idk their names. I just listened to the Italian intro on repeat)
Modern is cookie cutter moe while old school they were all unique.
Anime for the last 15 years has all looked exactly the same with few outliers. Every producer grew up watching the same stuff and it's all converged into a homogeneous and predictable style.
All these complaints read like boomer complaints and from people who don't have to churn out character designs for animation.
Studio Ghibli does their work by hand from Miyazaki's disdain of computer animation and they use samey faces. It's not even specific to anime, Disney animation uses samey faces also.
Yeah, that doesn't make modern anime any better though lol
Because Jonathan Joestar totally didn't walk right out of Fist of the North Star no sireee there were no generic qualities at all back in the good old days.
any better though
It depends on what we're defining as "better".
In my view, it is hypocritical criticism and done because it is "cool" to do so. Western animation, propped up mostly by Disney, built itself on decades of shoehorning in this underage submissive princess female looking for her prince charming to save her trope going so far as to do it to lions and historical 11 year olds in Pocahontas.
But man look at those crazy Japanese and them animating cute girls because people will pay 350 dollars for statues of them for whatever reason. Anime became all moe not because animators and producers started sucking or being lazy. It's because anime is a business enterprise and moe revolutionized anime in seriously moving merch.
I made no statement about western animation, which I also have no interest in. What Disney is doing or whatever is irrelevant to the current state of anime.
Japanese anime is completely catering to the modern otaku demographic which I don't care about at all. Anime studios are doing it for easy money through merch tie-ins and that's great for them, but again that doesn't make the product any better.
You seem to think I care about the industry as a whole and am making a criticism of that, but actually I just think the shows are shit.
Not exactly, but for sure there were more cookie cutter patterns out there. Magic Girls, Delinquents, Sailors...
Misato is an absolute babe
She's mommy
problematic fave
She isn't 14 (unlike team red) and she seems like a dominant mommy
she is a pedophile tho, but i can get over that.
Haha, I love End of EVA because it’s basically a giant Fuck You to fans.
that and it's still legitimately one of the greatest anime films of all time. just a creative visionary doing whatever the fuck he wants.
It’s not her fault that Shinji is so handsome.
I'm soon old enough to be under her wings
misato is the reason that I like MILFs today
That opening is a true banger
The whole attitude of female characters was different, I find. Female characters weren’t just arm candy or damsels, they could be active players in their plot (either as a villain, a major supporting role, a major impactor, etc.). Having their own personalities, wants, needs, motives, etc. Not just doormats or helpless waifs, but real people.
There’s a dedication to realism that was lost somewhere after the 2000’s. Artists and writers no longer pursue the truest, most realistic form of a character, as opposed to just creating the widest, most likeable waifu-types.
It’s a lost art. It’s easy to create something that everyone will naturally like, a waif who can do no wrong (or do wrong in the most minor of ways) that everyone just wants to cuddle and protect. The real art is in challenging that, and pushing the boundaries. Creating a good or bad or grey person, and damn the consequences.
The only downside might’ve been their motivations still usually centring around a man or boy figure, and their either love or need to protect this figure. A more active figure than Disney, but still.
… actually, that hasn’t changed much, I think.
Because in the early days of the industry it wasn't all Otaku making anime. Anime now is very clearly done by people who have no idea how other human beings actually behave.
And worse, it's influencing younger creatives in other media, such as writers whose works are based on what they see animated or comic-book characters doing instead of anything they (or anyone else) might actually deal with in real life.
its the mangakas that create the Otaku manga you were reffering to. story is what matters the most. even the literal more generic type anime can be quite sucessful if it has a good written story. the craft might be dead, but the story telling is still there
If you want a semi-modern anime with good female characters watch Claymore. It came out back in 2007 and the animation looks a bit dated now, but it's got some of the most well-rounded female characters I've seen.
Saw it. It’s really what raised my expectations of female characters and got me to watch more older anime series and ovas.
My only issue might be how graphic some of them could get, in pursuit of realism. But it’s fascinating to see how much dedication animators and writers had back then as opposed to now. It’s also fun to see the little hand-drawn quirks and styles, across the shots. No two panels look the same, and you feel the work being put in.
It’s nice.
It helps when you have great source material, the manga is amazing.
Yeah, after awhile you watch enough anime to realize that they only use a handful of standard tropes for all their characters. I miss being young and enjoying anime when it was still new to me.
Eh. In way too many anime, back then and now, the female characters are mostly there for the fan service.
Dirty pair is a wonderful example
goddamn italian anime openings were the best
There’s a fascinating Japanese spirit to Italian animation.
Probably because almost all the shows listed in the image are given higher budgets, and being OVAsor movies, and not serialised broadcast, the animators gets have more time and energy the focus on quality instead of rushing weekly deadlines. Also helps that most of these are passion projects. They are also hand picked by importers/aficionados precisely because of their quality. You won't see the worst one because they weren't imported due to said low quality.
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He was trying to mock with it as well, which is even funnier that its gotten so mainstream.
He himself says that he hates his coining of the term as well and only made the people who it was supposed to mock that much more insufferable.
Yeah he definitely should have mocked us in a different way. The total superiority of PC as a platform is too factual to work with that kind of satire.
Its about the people and the smug attitude, not the platform. Yahtz is a literal child of PC gaming as a platform and one of its biggest proponents. Obviously its the best one, its like mocking people trying out biking on a hand me down on your $8000 aero competition carbon fiber bike.
Ps5 and Xbox s series x box x series x all cost as much as a decent gaming starter gaming PC
A PC needs a mouse and keyboard to launch which is not going to fit into someones living room setup nearly as smoothly.
And if you're going starter PC to play the 3 triple A games a year that this type of person is interested in, they're getting no real upside for the very real overheads of having to shop around for the correct PC to pick, which means learning technical terms they really have no sense of (knowing what RAM is is the extent of most peoples understanding of PC specs).
The overhead of dealing with a PC OS is an even bigger deterrent if, as a lot of these things are, a primary user is going to be a child.
And a decent Xbox remote and boom you're a couch PC gamer. Practically every AAA title in the last probably 10 years has been a port with full controller support.
And you can just ask someone to help. It's much simpler to build one these days than it used to be. There's very few ways to mess up. For example, RAM speeds only matter if you're an enthusiast.
Steam has full screen mode with controller support. Xbox live has full windows integration. The experience between PC and console can be close to identical when properly configured.
Yeah, you're really not seeing how much someone would rather pay $200 one time then not deal with any of that. And I don't even think that there's a $200 markup from a PS5 (at msrp) to an equivalent PC. They're somewhat cheaper, they're not day and night cheaper. A whole keyboard is obnoxious, that alone is enough for people to pay for the convenience of not dealing with, let alone assembly.
People pay much larger markups for equivalent specs for the smoother user experience between macs and PCs.
If it's just cost, consider that you can't upgrade consoles, so you'll probably end up paying more over time. Today's graphics cards can run on systems built 5+ years ago no problem.
The keyboard thing, I guess it's subjective, but the remote keyboard I linked IMO really helps to close the gap between console and PC. You can (easily via steam settings) load straight into steam big picture mode on startup and not even need the keyboard. I find myself only using it for setup tasks.
This person is not going to upgrade a PC regardless. They do not want to open a box and remove electronic components. They would rather just not game than do that.
Again, you're suggesting they set up software workflows to work around a problem. They are not going to to do this. They are going to pay slightly more for a 'it just works' device.
Like if you're trying to convince me the person typing this to do what you're saying, I literally already did that I have a gaming PC I set up for my parents with a very similar setup. I'm just saying there is a very real use case for just getting a console and not worrying about it.
I've been using a PC from my couch for 15+ years. Keyboard sits on my lap when I'm using it, or I rest it against the back of the couch when I'm not. Mouse works fine on the couch fabric (though that may vary depending on your couch). Both are wireless of course. I use a wireless Xbox elite controller for gamepad gaming and have a wireless headset.
It's not really a hassle at all. Overall my setup costs a lot more than a console but that's because I have a beefy PC that can run nearly everything at 4K at 60-120 FPS. If I downgraded to similar performance of a console, the price point would be a lot closer to a console.
You mentioned this would be a bit much for a child, and I agree, but a huge portion of the gaming audience are adults.
not sure I get you there entirely, for me -as a German- it’s impossible to use this word unironically even in an otherwise serious context, people were literally murdered in my country for not being deemed the masterrace.
it takes a very thick person to miss this.
I dont remember the board game ever mentioning a master race
I wish people still drew this way... Even fuckin Disney movies should be hand-drawn.
They were original as shit and they took risks
Risks you say? That honestly didn't change much.
This is the anime I used to get stoned to and watch all the time. I can't get into the CGI cell shaded shit.
do you have a list to refer me to? I love old anime shit
yeah just the attention to detail alone makes those works mindblowing even today.
But wow, we could put out 20x the amount of product if we used shitty cgi!!!
The Movies and OVAs tend to be of that quality (higher budget), while the tv series tend to be hit or miss as they are today.
No it didn't lmfao. Noone is dying to revisit old anime, that shit looks terrible.
and the animation was way better than most new action anime I see nowadays
Honestly though....I can't watch modern anime. I'm spoiled by the old ways.
can you give me some recommendations?
this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gypRfMb3_PM
Modern anime better
Wrong.
Right.
If you like cheap, lifeless, safe otaku pandering crap then yes.
That’s exactly what I like
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You’re* I win+ ratio+cry boomer new anime is superior
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Projection
Same. Cyberpunk in general is such a cool genre
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Honestly sounds like Neuromancer.
Most cyberpunk does.
Shit I wanna watch this. I can already see a side character with a pink mohawk who loves his flamethrower.
That's Kenzo--known as 'Toast'! My favorite side character.
You sonuva-bitch, I’m in
Let's fund this shit.
First, fucking metal post.
Second, r/VXJunkies
Ha I forgot about that madhouse
Found the network engineer. Loved this btw.
Traditional Cyberpunk is really 'what if the tech of the 90s was the far future', which is why I think more recent stuff trying to do the genre doesn't hit the same way the old stuff does. Japan being the cutting edge of tech, mechanical and automation technology being the forefront of tech (rather than algorithms and media) and the dawn of personal computing (What will people do with computers? We have no idea) are all core ideas to cyberpunk, but a lot of that speculation just has definitive, boring, answers now so a lot of the mystery is sort of gone.
I'm a big fan of the "what if vampires were on the internet" subgenre of cyberpunk.
What're some of your fav examples of this genre?
Steampunk all the way man, the semi-futuristic Victorian era imagery always gets me.
For me it’s either busy, societal but free Cyberpunk or the earthy, metallic feel of Dieselpunk
Any good movie recs? I've seen Akira and that was Great.
And ninjas
Ninja Scroll was one of my favorites.
any other recommendations? i could use some nostalgia
also i cant find any information on cyberpunk
I only watched evangelion and cowboy bebop from that era
Me too, especially from the 80's/90's. Any recs? Have never watched anime!
I haven't seen many from that era but here are the ones i did
cowboy bebop, its about space crime fighting
Golden boy: its just a horny anime. 90's anime tiddies
Neon Genesis Evangelion: depression and robots
I think Neon Genesis Evangelion is exactly what you’re looking for. Start with the TV series - you can find it streaming for free all over the internet
Deep Breath,
A Wind Named Amnesia: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108570/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Appleseed: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094668/
Macross / Macross Plus https://www.imdb.com/video/vi1753481497/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1 / https://www.imdb.com/video/vi1704395033/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1
Metropolis (2001) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0293416/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3
Vampire Hunter D https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090248/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3
Fist of the North Star https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0142371/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1
Ninja Scroll https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107692/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
Samurai X https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurouni_Kenshin:_The_Motion_Picture
these are considered some of the Classics, and are mostly PG ish. with great story's.
Of Course there are a ton more Like Afro Samurai, and Trigun and others that were after 2000.
I agree with most on this list: https://www.looper.com/469180/50-best-anime-movies-of-all-time/
If you are looking for daemons and Pr0n.
you will need to search for Hentai (Porn hub has a best list lol)
-Kozzma
Akira
Ghost in the shell, Akira
So damn beautiful
Bubblegum Crisis sure was a lot of fun.
Even Sailor Moon got in on the action with Crystal Tokyo. I don't know why no writers in the 80s and 90s thought regular Tokyo was good enough.
Do you have any Cyberpunk and Neo Tokyo anime recommendations?
mine is nudity
I seem to like anything super violent.
Same here, and the teenager with raging hormones part of me from the past also would like to add nudity.
I maintain that Akira is not inherently a "cyberpunk" story just because it takes place in a "cyberpunk-esque" setting.
Shout out to everyone's actual fave, Nudity
The Neotokyo game is pretty good as well.
Seeing Akira neo Tokyo on the big screen is peak cinematic experience.
Nudity is my favourite
mine is meticulously hand drawn and ultra violence/gore and (artistic) nudity
This man used a shot of demon city shinjuku as neo Tokyo?
Someone please tell me I'm wrong...
Edit: also what's that first mecha asking for a friend
I'm pretty sure that shot is from Akira
Forgot to mention "incredibly philosophical and or existential"
Eva moment
Lain momment
Lol everyone always thinks evangelion so deep when the creators said they put christian imagery everywhere not for any philosophical reason but just cause they looked cool and they didn’t think show would expand to west so would be foreign imagery.
The imagery might not be deep but the message and the meaning of the show really is, imo.
Yea I’m just biased. Feel like show gets way more credit than it deserves. As a show it’s good, a masterpiece it is not( to me). Feel like show mashed a bunch of stuff together to appear deep, while yes maintaining some deeper themes, but in effort to be appear deeper just mashed things together in purposively confusing manner so viewers think they just aren’t understanding the deeper meaning when something doesn’t make sense.
Much if I threw a bunch of random shit together, called it modern art, and saying anyone who doesn’t get it just isn’t seeing the deeper meaning. When really there wasn’t I just found cool shit I liked and put in a pile. Eva was just that in anime form, with coming of age themes sprinkled throughout
Finally, a fucking Evangelion hater. You're just like me frfr. 😔
It really, really isn't THAT good
People are nostalgic, it's neither very deep nor well told
Tbh, I think evangelism is quite deep. You can find a lot of psychoanalytic stuff in there, shinto references, the human-made Adam and Eve, and the organic man-machine relationship leaves a lot to discuss. All of that can’t be coincidental.
One of the theories is that since Japan is so secular, they were afraid admitting that the Christian imagery was intentional would alienate audiences
Imho, they definitely knew what they were doing
my guy that’s a small sample of fans that misinterpreted the meaning of the show. the meaning eva tries to convey is deep
Yeah i knew that, but I feel like it talks about a lot of important themes
Everyone talking some Eva shit. Nah. Serial Experiments Lain is a mindfuck.
Basically Ghost in the Shell
Someone give me a good list of films to watch from this era:
Edit: holy moly, thanks for all the recs! I’ll say that I’ve seen Akira, Golgo 13, Ghost in the shell, Appleseed, Fist of the North Star, Vampire Hunter D, a few Miyazaki films, the Berserk films and that cgi show. Have not seen the 1997 version tho.
Lots of films and shows I’m looking forward to watching now!
Akira, ghost in the shell, Angels egg, trigun, gundam, evangelion, I dunno, but I loved all those
Add Macross Plus to that list
I still listen to Sharon Apple Marcross plus. That concert scene was everything to meee
https://youtu.be/nloGvq69Nao
Information High is one of the best songs of all time.
I liked Idol Talk better, but Yoko Kanno has a LOT of "best songs of all time" so its a hard choice.
Yoko Kanno is amazing. Love her work on Cowboy Bebop and Macross Frontier
I listened to Macross Plus soundtrack first on some random japan song list. Honestly it was so good that i went looking for the anime immediately.
Of course it's good. It's composed by Yoko Kanno, who also did Cowboy Bebop, who also did Ghost In The Shell: Stand Alone Complex, who also did... every great soundtrack ever. Just Wikipedia her and watch every anime she did the soundtrack on. You won't go wrong
I just read the wiki and I’m floored. Thank you. These songs always seemed mysterious to me but now I know!
I will Thanks!
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Yep
Wait what. Brian Cranston is Isamu? I knew that Guld is Richard Epcar (Bateau in GITS, and LOT of other voice work), but how did I not know this?
He's also Fei Long in the Street Fighter 2 animated movie
I loved those movies. Maybe I'll rewatch them
Macross Plus was one of the first "real" anime I ever saw, late at night on HBO, and it's still one of my favorites. I wish Harmony Gold would fuck right off so we could get new Macross
It hits a certain vibe that no other anime does for me.
the og robotech was great, and also star blazers (the original tv series)
And Dirty Pair, Appleseed (even if corny it’s 80s anime all the way) Vampire Hunter D (80s), Lens Man, Guyver…
Don't forget Vampire Hunter D and Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust!
Even if the latter is from 2001, it stands right in the tradition of mainline 90s anime-movies that hit it big in the west (it's directed by Yoshiaki Kawajiri of Ninja Scrolls fame), and is pure style-oozing retrofuturist-gothic hand-drawn-cel goodness.
Ninja Scroll is the shit
Until you think it is a good idea to watch it on mushrooms.
Don't tell me you actually did that lol
Pretty soon there was a unanimous decision to turn it off and find something chill to cleanse the mind.
Smart move lol. Gotta be in nature.
Funny I was just looking at this list thinking how I wanted to get on a bunch of drugs and watch all of them
One of my friends watched it with a date. Guess that was awkward with questions like "where is that snake coming from?"
Rock man sucks the whole tiddy
Ninja Scroll is a masterpiece.
Vampire hunter d: bloodlust is a great looking movie but it's garbage , no plot or actually animated fights . Waste of time
Bloodlust had one of the best soundtracks ever made
Vampire Hunter D is amazing (and hilarious) and always overlooked by anime fans. Good mention.
I love how they drew him in the later one. Like older but not old. Idk how to describe it. Just perf.
I recently watched Evangelion for the first time, and I think it's some of the best media produced by humanity so far. It's fucking incredible and I recommend everyone watch it (with your therapist on speed dial).
Have you watched the latest reboot films?
are they worth it? not OP but i watched the original series and end of eva but nothing after that, toying with the idea of checking out the others.
As a fan of the series as a whole, the nostalgia of the latest films and how they wrapped things up in this particular way gave me like a nice sense of closure I never really got as a preteen watching the original
ah i see the death threats hideaki anno received after the original series aired worked
thanks i will prb check them out!
Only took about 20 years or so! I hope you enjoy them as much as I did
I think they are a cash grab by Hideaki Anno, the first two are decent then the viewer gets totally lost by the third and stuff just happens in the final movie. Atleast the ending is better than the original series and movies but that's not saying much. Atleast the Beautiful World ED is great.
I highly reccomend also watching the 4 movies where they expanded on the original story of the original series/movies. They're free on Amazon Prime. So. Damn. Good.
They're really good! The ending of the last one had me in tears.
Same. I thought the series ending/movie pulled on my heart strings. I was not prepared for the ending of the movies. Was so happy and sad at the same time.
Seeing >!Gendo hugging Shinji and apologizing near the end!< got me balling when I watched it a few months ago. I swear they must have had therapists on the writing staff of all of Evangelion.
I saw it 20 years ago, and 4 weeks ago. I had the exact same thought as you both times.
I recommend everyone watch it (with your therapist on speed dial).
watched it for the first time a few days ago (including EOE) and it wasn't that bad. to be fair I wasn't watching it completely blind.
And I've watched shows before that also have a reputation of hitting hard (Devilman Crybaby and To your Eternity for example)
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Wow, you got downvoted. Apparently that part of evangelion totally isn’t cringe. :)
But really, it is, but it’s still worth watching. It’s a great series.
Then again, that’s mostly a good rule of thumb about a good chunk of anime: there’s some awesome stuff out there, but be prepared for some cringe even in the awesome ones.
Doomed Megalopolis, Wicked City, Ninja Scroll, Fist of the North Star
H o l e e Shit
I did not know wicked city and Demon city shinjuku were direct sequels
Not technically. They’re both based on novels by Japanese horror writer Hideyuki Kikuchi. He also wrote the novels Vampire Hunter D is based on. So, likely connected, but not necessarily a sequel. Think The Dark Tower series and the Stand.
Is wicked city first? It’s the one I’ve seen so far.
Yeah wicked city is first followed by shinjuku.
Hilariously enough those were like the first anime I ever saw
Fist of the North Star is so 1980s it's amazing. The fate of the region rests in the hands of dudes in mullets and sleeveless shirts doing deadly martial arts that make people explode. Classic.
Hey! Some martial arts let you poke people really aggressively, and some let you slice people like a Christmas ham with your laser fingers!
Do you know the band „The Midnight“? Their song „Vampires“ has a video made of sequences of the movie Wicked City. Terrific band imo
https://youtu.be/9LD3NKlS55g
Vision of escaflowne needs to be added ofc
That series is awesome!
Back in the days, my big sister was a huge fan of Escaflowne. At the time the series was broadcast on TV in my country, she watched every weekly episode and recorded them on VHS tapes. Then she invited me (her lil' bro) to watch the taped episodes with her. Since I am deeply hearing impaired and there were no subtitles back then, she regularly paused the TV and took the time to explain to me what was going on in the show and make sure I didn't miss anything about the plot.
To this day, I cherish theses memories fondly. They some of the best from my childhood.
By the way, my sister's favorite character was Folken. Mine was Dilandau Albato.
Aw that's sweet she did all that for you
Folken is a great character and I fully agree with that choice
I don't like Isekai, but that one and Magic Knight Rayearth are my favorites. Probably because they were made before the Isekai genre had a template.
This exactly, it also has a 3 dimensional main character
Less a legend, more of a vision, isnt it
Vision of Escaflowne is 50% swooning romance about which pretty boy to kiss and 50% violent, politically dense war story.
And it’s fantastic
Perfect Blue! Ninja Scroll!
While I love them both, I really do believe that Perfect Blue is one of the best thrillers ever made
Cowboy Bebop
Also: Demon City Shinjuku, Cyber City OEDO, Patlabor
Edit: Kite, Vampire Hunter D
Angels Egg is a top 10 film of all-time, not just anime, IMO. Incredible film.
Good god the story in Trigun evolved so much over time into something completely unexpected. Masterpiece. Check out Gungrave if you havent
How you gonna leave Cowboy Bebop off of that list?
Ninja Scroll
You know a movie is really good if there are hundreds of YouTube videos talking about the production and philosophy. I'm not a big anime fan, but I've seen all those based on other movies referencing them or directly recrecreating a shot in another movie. The Matrix was boarderline Ghost in the Shell fanfic.
I missed the comma in Gundam and Evangelion and immediately started googling the crossover I never knew I sorta wanted
G Gundam, 08th MS Team, 0083 Stardust Memory, Turn A Gundam, F91, Gundam Wing, After War X, and Victory Gundam specifically for the 90s.
Personal recommendation: 08th MS Team and 0083. Short OVAs that are stunning.
AD Police is another awesome title to include.
Memories (1995) is a three story anthology movie. First segment is the best by far.
Battle angel, city of demons
Tekkaman blade is in the starter pack. I recommend it.
Robotech
Patlabor 1 & 2
Angels egg...that is a name I haven't heard in a looong long time.
A little older (late 80s) but also Wicked City, Demon City Shinjuku, Vampire Hunter D
Add Great teacher onizuka to that list also.
Ghost in the shell movie isn't the greatest, but the series is outstanding.
P.S. evangelion (full name being neon genesis evangelion) is an anime with the ending being a movie, so dont skip right to the ending lol
Akira, Ghost in the shell, Ninja scroll, Wicked city.
Honorable mention : Nausicaa of the valley of the wind, Princess monoke (please watch this)
Mononoke is so important
Scrolling so many of the recommendation comments and no one says Mononoke and I'm just dying.
God the ghibli films are SO good
The run Miyazaki had from Nausicaa to Ponyo(I have yet to see the Wind Rises) is one of if not the best run of consistently great films in the history of the motion pictures.
I just watched Pom Poko for the first time (assumed it would be too “kiddy”) WOW, honestly can’t overstate how much I liked it.
So many seem very child-aimed on the surface but are, if not dark, then at least very much so deeper than you'd expect. My fav is still Porco Rosso, the graphics and music are incredible
this era of anime hits different when you watch on vhs
i still have my vhs copies of vampire hunter d, ninja scroll, ghost in the shell, and akira.. the latter two are copies i made from blockbuster. my parents had a camcorder and i would hook it up to the vcr to copy movies i rented onto a blank tape.
I saw the scene from Wicked City that's on the starter pack there on a random late night clip show when I was about 14/15 and it gave me an intense fear of vagina dentata. Got over it after a few years but part of me always worries.
I bet I know which part it is.
I'm not an anime guy but my gf got me to watch princess mononoke, 10/10
Perfect Blue! It's psychological horror similar to Black Swan.
Perfect Blue was what inspired Black Swan.
All of Satoshi Kon's works were masterpieces
TIL!
Yeah. Aronofsky bought the rights to remake Perfect Blue before making Black Swan to avoid copyright claims.
Did that ever actually happen, or is that just an Internet rumor to downplay the fact that he ripped it off?
I looked into it a bit, and it looks like you're right. It seems the source of the rumor is a post from Kon's blog where he mentions Aronofsky attempting to buy the rights. That deal fell through, and Aronofsky did not acquire the rights. It has been widely reported though. Yet again, Satoshi Kon did not get paid ...
Oof
C'mon now...
To my defense, I watched Black Swan at release and only discovered Perfect Blue last year.
A lot of directors have take shot framing cues from perfect blue. Very influential
I watched perfect blue, in a dark room with someone. We were questioning out realitys by the end.
Watch Millenium Actress, it does the same thing but with movies itself as a template.
That comparison makes it an instant watch for me.
Traumatic Anime Starter Pack: Devilman OVAs, Genocyber, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Urotsukidoji, Berserk.
Urotsukidōji. A man of culture I see.
I remember years ago (pre internet 2.0) channel 4 in the UK did a viewer poll on the best animated films of all time and then did a 3 hour show on the top 100 with talking heads. Urotsukidōji made it in at something like 70 and got 5 minutes of random journalists/actors/C-list celebrities going "Really? Really channel 4 viewers? I mean, I guess the animation is good but reeeeeally? This beat Animal Farm?? Fucking REALLY??"
I think I remember watching that as well. Probably had Alex Zane on it or hosting. I seem to recall it mentioned some like random German porny cartoon as well.
Those shows were always kinda enjoyable, but also frustrated me, because you'd have all these people saying dumbass redundant stuff like "Yeah, the Transformers, they really were the robots in disguise".
First anime I ever watched as a kid. Boy was that one hell of an introduction!
Guyver!
Shit I thought Urotsukidoji was that one where random people have those giant mole claws (can't remember what the name of that type of monster is called)...
Anyone help me out?
Think this might be Genocyber actually?
Sorry for the late reply lol but that def sounds like the hospital scene from Genocyber
Yeah no thanks. I jumped around a bit and saw enough.
https://archive.org/details/urotsukidoji.-legend.-of.-the.-overfiend.-1989.-japanese.-1080p.-blu-ray.-h-264.-aac-vxt
Even though I thought the art style was pretty interesting, I've NEVER recommended this to anyone lmao. I keep the fact that I've seen it to myself.
Devil man was amazing. I had a VHS tape with Ghost in the Shell, ninja scroll and devil man.
They played in that order and watching Devil Man at 11 years old at the time was absolutely insane. It was scary, violent and had plenty of nudity.
The part where he transformed and grabbed that demons head smashing it with one hand stuck in my mind for years after seeing it
Dude, I saw Devilman around the same age and the part where he eats the little girl still sticks with me. I've gone back and watched a few gruesome anime but that's one I'll never revisit.
Devilamn crybaby on Netflix is tight.
I'd also not watch any of the berserk anime and read the manga instead. I loved the 1997 anime til I read the manga and realized that even it is a very subpar adaptation
Also the relatively new Devilman Crybaby
How can you list that without Elfenlied?
I was only mentioning 80's and 90's anime. I believe Elfen Lied is from the early 2000's
Rurouni Kenshin OVAs
Cyber city 808 is my all time favorite. I love the length of them the interconnectedness while still letting them shine. All around excellent
I love how they inserted an excessive amount of cuss words into the English Dub, classic for an anime of that era.
But the ones they did use were so off the top lol
The Alita OVAs are so good actually
Genocyber is probably one of my favorite of all time, yeah too much gore but at least makes some sense. Violence Jack on the other hand was gore every frame. Hate that I somekind of love it.
There are some interesting lessons in the Violence Jack manga. That at least had some attempt at condemning violence for the sake of violence despite the actions of Jack himself. The anime bits I've seen remove nearly all of the subtlety of the writing
Check out 8 man after too
Seriously, on one mentionned Cowboy Bebop, what is wrong with you guys
berserk too
Handy link to the entirety of berserk 1997.
The 2012/2013 movies on Netflix are also great.
DO NOT WATCH BERSERK 2016/2017 ON CRUNCHYROLL
And Corey In the House.
IM THE MAN
They said films, Cowboy Bebop is a show.
The Cowboy bebop movie is pretty good too tbh
There is a Cowboy Bebop film. Knockin On Heavens Door
Films
Bebop is extremely overrated.
Brave thing to say. But it's got a cast as flawed and unlikable as AoT or NGE but without the zany charisma and high stakes plot to drive it.
I kind of get it. It's a more adult show, not stupid kids entertainment. A mature think-piece about space cowboys who jump on spaceships doing kung-fu. Um, OK, real mature. It does it well though, great animation, music, and the dubs don't suck.
I would say cowboy bebop doesn't really match that era. I know it's 1998 but it feels completely different from things like akira and ghost in the shell. Maybe because it's light hearted and is missing the seriousness, extreme violence, gore, tentacles, etc. of the shows referred to here.
It's got cyberpunk elements yes but it lacks the rest.
At last, something my late-GenX upbringing can offer the world! This was the true golden age of anime as far as I'm concerned. In addition to other suggestions made here, I'd recommend:
Cyber City Oedo 808 (1990) - Three half-hour one-shot episodes. Cyberpunk perfection, and the soundtrack on the UK version is killer.
Memories (1995) - Mentioned elsewhere in this thread. A three-part anthology with each story animated using a different technique. Part one should fit what you're looking for.
Redline (2009) - Technically a 2000s anime, but it took seven years to animate due to prioritising hand drawn animation. Also check out its pseudo predecessor Trava: Fist Planet (2001).
The Wings of Honnesamise (1987) - More pseudo-steam/dieselpunk than cyberpunk, this is another exceptionally animated film (backed by a Sakamoto Ryuichi soundtrack) that really struck a chord with me back in the day.
Patlabor: The Movie (1989) - A mecha-police story set in a not-too-distant future Tokyo. Watch this to fully enjoy...
Patlabor 2 (1993) - A cerebral action movie with incredible animation, a Kawaii Kenji soundtrack, and THAT perfect sequence ;)
Neo Tokyo (1987) - Watch The Running Man segment. DO IT!! Even dubbed it's incredible.
Venus Wars (1989) - A longtime not-so-guilty pleasure of mine. Great animation, great set pieces, and fantastic setting.
Wings is one of the best movies period
It's definitely in my top ten. It does have that rather problematic scene though which has never say well with me...
• Venus Wars (1989) - A longtime not-so-guilty pleasure of mine. Great animation, great set pieces, and fantastic setting
Joe Hisaishi knocked the fucking soundtrack out of the park on this one (like he always does). One of my absolute favorites growing up.
He certainly did, and then some! Currently waiting for the soundtrack on Discogs (an affordable copy at least!).
ghost in the shell is one of the best movies i’ve ever seen
Its the most visually stunning in this genre imo. Also the music is amazing
Patlabor 1 & 2
They were the movies Mamorii Oshi made directly before the OG Ghost in the Shell.
Very similar art style, great action set pieces and thought provoking mystery themes.
underrated movies.
Also, basset hounds
I just found royal space force and just from the one scene I saw it looks like it would be a good recommendation if you like pat labor for the action.
If you have a Roku, add a channel called Retro Crush, all it plays is anime that is now public domain. Loads of good titles in there that never got picked up by other studios.
Bubblegum Crisis / Bubblegum Crash
Ad Police
Dominion Tank Police
Vampire Hunter D (The original)
Project A-ko
Gunbuster
Nadesico
City Hunter
Iria: Zeiram the Animation
Blue Seed
Lupin the Third
Wicked City
Megazone 23
Appleseed
This list was just off the top of my head. (also a lot of other good suggestions here as well) Oh and the channel is free, so go nuts, they have a pay version, but in over a year, I've never felt the urge to subscribe.
I love Appleseed.
Blue Seed was my shit back during the Action channel days. Fantastic series.
I remember Nadesico being massive when it was in its initial run, then it just fizzled away. The series was excellent, but then they released the movie based on the events of the Sega Saturn game with so many gaps in the plot it was insufferable.
The movie was left open ended as a aswell, and basically destroyed the heart warming ending of the series. Always wished they'd bring it back for one more run.
Not a film but OG berserk is pretty good
They got it on YouTube ?? I had to pirate it lol
Its amazing!
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Just read the manga then. That shit isn’t boring.
That’s the thing about berserk, it’s very basic and straight forward… until it’s not lol.
You just need to give the characters a few episodes to develop… it’s 10 volumes of manga condensed into 25 episodes of anime. It takes a little time to get to the point where the characters really break through and develop. Just enjoy the simple times
Patlabor movies
The first two Patlabor movies are not just two of my favorite anime films but two of my favorite action films.
So fucking good.
All I remember about Patlabour was the bathhouse fight scene where everyone was nude with black dots over their junk. At one point someone gets hit and their black dot flies off, which was hilarious to me when I was 12 years old
That would funny, but i don't remeber seeing this in the movies, wasn't it more likely in one of the series ?
Berserk (1997)
Be sure to put your grasses on first
Akira (one the best anime films and just a genuine good film. Pleas pay special attention to the backdrops as well)
Cowboy Bebop. Its doesnt make sense but it has so much style and its just cool. Legendary
Fist of the North Star. The man with the power of 10 man in his fist
Ghost in a Shell, the orginal. Great movie
Porco Rosso. Just one of my favourite movies of all time but it has nothing to dow ith this starterpack.
Perfect blue, close as anime gets to real life.
Porco Rosso is so underrated as ghibli film. It has my favorite piece of music in anime and also one of the best fistfights committed to film
Yes i love it a slice of time/life movie. With very clear subjects etc its a lovely human film.
I think Mononoke and SPirited away are better films. And i will never get tired of those. But porco rosso has a special place for me because of a million little things i cant put my fingers on. In the end i guess its one of the most human films i know
And that mid piece with that song and porco with his ptsd....its just lovely, mystical and clear all at the same time.
Great list. I legit think that Akira is not only one of the greatest animes ever, but I also think that it's one of the best films period. It's special. Truly genre transcending.
Yu yu Hakushou
Such a good show. Dragonball fights, but with consequences and morality issues.
Serial Experiments Lain
Bubblegum Crisis
Metal Skin Panic MADOX-01
Scrolled way too far in this list before seeing Bubblegum Crisis. One of my favorites.
Bubblegum Crisis fans! So I'm not the only one, there are still others ...
Hell yes! See you in the Big City!
https://youtu.be/an_0IIRDlc4
Kite
Appleseed, vampire hunter d, golgo 13, Lain (tv series)
Pokémon: the first movie w/ Pikachu’s vacation
Memories
And not from the 80s/90s but always have to recommend Mindgame by Yuasa
Asking an anime fan for a list? Prepare for 340 hours of obscure viewing no one wants.
Video girl ai, temchi muyo, perfect blue
Tenchi muyo. The OVAs are the original. They continued this franchise by remaking it into new series every few years way I to the 2000s.
Hmm Tenchi Muyo that sounds familiar.
Here is a link to a good video about straight straight to VHS anime https://youtu.be/mF-XaCPqjqE
Monster
Dirty Pair. Lone Star, Demon city Shinjuku, Venus Wars. All the stuff in this reply thread really. Plus everything Studio Ghibli and Lupin the 3rd.
Redline. Technically after the era, but paying tribute by sticking to the hand drawn style in a visually awesome 2h movie.
Gungrave
Urotsukidōji
Blood Reign, Ninja Scroll
https://youtu.be/JZdd0sl5MMk
Urusei Yatsura movie 2: Beautiful Dreamer
People always forget it but Metropolis
Nobody else said it, so I will: Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
Ninja Scroll (1993) ticks most of these boxes.
Guyver
Does Akira count? Paprika was a trip also.
I second the recommendation on Trigun. It's very Cowboy Bebop like and was one of my favorites as a kid. And it was my brother's favorite when he was a kid.
Hokuto No Ken.
It's a series but Berserk 1997
Vampire Hunter D
Record of the Lodoss War
8 Man After
Robot Carnival
(Not 90s, but if you like Robot Carnival, you might like Genius Party)
Monster city, wicked city
Vampire Hunter D
Akira, akira, akira, and while it's a bit more extreme than the rest of this list, try akira
SF2 the animated movie
Ninja scroll
akira
ghost in the shell
Spriggan
Jin Roh: wolf brigade
Evangelion
Porco Rosso
Princess Mononoke
Perfect Blue
Grave of the fireflies
Rurouni Kenshin OVAs
Fist of the North Star
It's not the most popular but Angel's Egg is a really good movie.
Outlaw Star, Hajime No Ippo, Any of the Gundam series of that timelime
lol, absolutely criminal no one mentioned legend of the galactic heroes
Patlabor OVA + the 3 movies(the anime which one of the bots in the starter pack, a AV98 Ingram is in), very well-made political thriller
Or you could do the TV series if you want Brooklyn Nine-Nine with mechs
How has no one mentione Urosukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend?! It’s a truly wholesome anime that everyone should watch. I just can’t understand how it never makes it on the must-watch lists.
I'll give a shout to Gogol 13: The Professional. Filled to the brim with crazy action, and a solid introduction to the longest running manga series.
You should read apple seed too. It's a good manga.
Memories by Studio 4C
Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise, it's great. It's slow but very good.
Golgo-13 was an Asian James Bond / Hitman type series that was really fun.
My childhood's Tv - Dragonball, Ranma, Doraemon, Chibi Maruko Chan, Yuyu Hakusho, Slam Dunk, Captain Tsubasa
Interstella 5555 isn’t from that era and is a glorified music video but it’s fucking beautiful and definitely along the lines of quality the actual stuff has
Probably seen them but princess mononoke(1997) and spirited away even tho spirited away is 2001.
Serial Experiments Lain
Devilman is a crazy one.
Ninja scrolls
I suggest Wicked City...don't watch it with children. And keep in mind it came out a year before The Thing.
Its a later 90s film but Perfect Blue is one of my favorite movies ever, not just in anime
Iria Zeiram
Street Fighter Alpha the Animation
Fuck you mean you saw the Berserk movies (they’re great btw) and that horrendous 2016 anime but not the 97 one??? If you managed to live through the 2016 anime, you’ll instantly fall in love with the 1997 one
Jin-Roh: Wolf Brigade
Evangelion isn't a show but it sure is a journey, reccomend if you like this style tho, there are newer films but I wouldn't say to watch them unless you REALLY want to
I didn’t look at ALL your replies but it seems like maybe no one said Fist of the Northstar yet. Definitely don’t skip Fist of the Northstar
Wicked City. Megazone 23. Akira. Midnight eye. Reach for the top. And for the OG tentacle porn granddaddy/ Urotski Doji
A wild card that I had on VHS but have never found on DVD or Bluray (Im in the UK, my husband has since found it online somewhere); Lupin the 3rd - The Fuma Conspiracy.
I got this battered VHS in the early 2000's at a second hand comic shop and LOVED IT. Excellent soundtrack and chase scenes.
Also it should be law that everyone watches Gunbuster (not Diebuster, Gunbuster, the original series)
Rurouni Kenshin: Trust and Betrayal
Gundam Wing anything (endless waltz is pretty good)
Cowboy Bebop is pretty much a given, kind of transcends everything lol
Neon Genesis Evangelion - have fun getting your brain melted.
Don't watch the CGI Berserk... It's horrible. I'm not saying that as a Berserk snob or anything. Seriously. Don't watch it. It's bad.
I'll give you a few that I haven't seen already recommended.
Macross: Do You Remember Love? Animation marvel even for today's standard. Space opera romance, what's not to love. This movie is a retelling of the original Macross series, in fact, it's actually suppose to be a movie within the fictional tv series itself. One of my favourites close to my heart.
Gall Force: Eternal Story The 1st of a host of movies in this series, but I grew up with this one and have yet to watch the others, so I can only recommend this. Ending works as a standalone.
Robot Carnival Anthology series in the same vein of some of the anthology suggested here, varying types of punk(steampunk, dieselpunk etc,) psychological, post-apocalypse, artsy and trippy themes.
Rurouni Kenshin OVA aka Trust and Betrayal I know this one has been recommended, but I'm reiterating it because it's the best damn piece of work I've ever seen. Every part of the production from cinematography to animation to music was masterfully done. Top favourite bar none. It has been re-released in different formats; watch the original 4 part OVA first because some scenes have more oomph paired with the music timed to the credit roll as originally intended. Then watch the director's cut movie that has the 4 parts compiled into a full feature with some minor additional scenes.
I swear, this would have brought an Oscar home in the foreign film category had it been a live action instead of animated with everything else remaining the same. Heck, this was more grounded and serious than the actual live action, and the animated characters acted much more realistic than the actual actors in the live action.
Devil man ovas are fun watch
did you watch golgo 13 the anime or the movies? I felt the anime kinda got repetitive.
Honestly I don’t remember. Weren’t there multiple films?
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97 is so much better than the garbage cgi 2016 anime. Like omfg Im sorry you had to sit through that. Berserk deserves so much better.
Gonna have to say Jin-roh. Very happy movie. Really.
Area 88 OVA
Iria
Starblazers
Devilman
Been a while since I seen a regular starter pack. nice
you don't like the "starter packs" that are just lists of things and nothing descriptive?
Big fan of the "specific people and communities I don't like" starter packs.
I remember seeing a starter pack for some sort of archetype that was pretty neutral, and commenters were all offended, saying "What's wrong with 〜?" simply assuming that since it was a starter pack, it had to be some kind of complaint.
Most of the sub users in a nutshell. These starter packs are just supposed to be fun generalizations but there’s people that think every starter pack = criticism.
Some people (not naming names, you know who you are) see everything through a filthy lens of jaded irony and mockery, and have forgotten what it means to genuinely mean something
Some OPs do intend their starter packs to be criticism of the subject they bring up though. There's neutral ones sure, but let's not pretend some of them aren't just poorly-veiled insults. We get plenty of posts around here making fun of people
Because everything on reddit is argumentative now. Everything is A vs B including (especially) comment sections.
Can't blame people for getting used to it when that's pretty much all reddit is nowadays.
Like everyone that thinks every descriptor of a race is racist lmao
What about the hilariously subversive "starter pack starter pack"
Don’t forget the daily front page post of late 90’s/early 2000’s nostalgia.
“Wow, I had no idea that other twenty-somethings played Pokémon and watched SpongeBob, it’s like we’re literally the same person!!”
Deadass. I've seen all the 2000's broke kid icebergs a guy can see, but where's the hard hitters like Qubo and Smile (formerly named Smile of a Child) at?
Where's the old VHS tapes and bootleg DVD's?
Where's the sneaking on people's phones/computers so you could finally get a taste of the internet for the first time?
Where's the being bored that sports are on immediately after Saturday morning cartoons and then finding out they've been terminated and replaced with nature shows or Chicken Soup for the Soul a few years later?
Also love the weird self obsessed ones where op just makes one about their boring teenage self
Same. I love call-out and meta posts.
How is thar not what this is?
there's a difference between the two. Example: bullet one is against the rules, bullet two is OK
Good Movies Starterpack
Kind of a lame example, but the point is starterpacks are supposed to be images/text of descriptors, not just the actual "thing"
Yeah but that is what this is with like VHS and Mecha though
not really, it's saying they're on VHS and they're often including mechas. a "wrong" way to do this post would have been to just include straight up movies, so Gundam, Akira, etc
Or just hit pieces on a minority of the random community.
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Even though it’s not intentional, you could construe this as satire to a certain crowd, because it is a very curated view of 80s and 90s anime that comes from people who have only watched a small fraction of shows from that era, but stereotype everything as hyperviolent tentacle porn cyberpunk mecha, when there was a lot more mundane stuff that was never translated, or conveniently ignored.
Like, you could change the title to “what people think 80s/90s anime is” to a group of people who’ve actually seen a significant amount of the absolute shit from that era as well, and they’d chuckle.
And they hated him for telling the truth.
Space Dandy, Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop are the three best anime and they're all by the same guy
the best era
Yeah what's up with anime these days - I sometimes look over at /r/anime and it all.....just looks like absolute crap? Shitty cheap drawing style, and always about child romance drama-comedies? Maybe that's unfair but it seems like extreme cringe
Yeah what's up with anime these days
In the late 2000s major analytical data on anime viewership and online shopping habits of otaku became available to corporations and in turn became a major driving factor in anime production.
In 2007 for example, they discovered what the "Manabi Line" was, the amount of DVD sales you needed to break even on a production, due to an anime called Gakuen Utopia Manabi Straight!.
In short, Otaku culture is what happened. Anime went from a Renaissance and Experimental Era(These two often referred to as the golden era 1984 to 2007), then transitioned into into the modern era(Early 2011~Current) of safe, unexperimented, Otaku favoring narratives and cheaper production anime driven by profit margins and marketability. (An example of this transition was the effective End of Gainax as we knew them for the anime Evangelion, FLCL, and Gurren Lagann.)
Whats whats up with anime these days, no need to impress and expand and explore, just need to make back the budget and make the Otaku fandom happy.
Interesting history....as with so much of culture, it comes down to political economy and the profit-making impulses of capitalism. Great...
It gets captured by the system and then it ends being just a money machine. Happens every time when something gets big enough (even social movements).
My Che shirt says hi
Whats whats up with anime these days, no need to impress and expand and explore, just need to make back the budget and make the Otaku fandom happy.
Sounds like most of media these days, including games, shows, movies. Everything is just content, ideally that can beget more content, drive subscriptions, content as service, microtransactions. Lowest common denominators, "untapped" demographics, etc.
Accurate observation. That is how media tends to go these days. An era of a lack of creativity.
IT happened first to hollywood, then it came to Anime.
Luckily anime film has avoiding many of these issues.
I would say there are some outliers though still like kill la kill was fresh and fun with an original story line
KLK is an outlier because of who made it. TRIGGER themselves are an outlier to the genre as a whole because they were founded by Hiroyuki Imaishi, the man behind some of the most wildly experimental series in GAINAX's later years, like Gurren Lagann and Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt.
Kill La Kill is a continuation of the wild and unconventional ways of Imaishi.
TRIGGER's directors and creators like Hiroyuki Imaishi, Yoh Yoshinari are what carried on the legacy of the Experimental Era.
But sadly, they are great outliers, and get to do what they want because they rarely have to answer to a commitee about potentail success factors.
I mean look what happened when A-1 decided to meddle with Darling in the FRANXX.
Upvote for Gainax
Financial crisis of 2008 hit the anime industry hard and caused it to restructure significantly on reduced budgets and low risk ventures. At the same time, the big Shonen animes enjoyed ongoing success with mediocre effort. So the 2010s as a whole were pretty rough animation wise, with a number of awesome creators and animators in a deluge of isekais and harem shit, lots of outsourcing to Korean and Vietnamese animators.
On the other hand, we saw works like Demon Slayer, shorter higher quality seasons for high profile releases, more sakuga, digital and CGI drawing techniques that actually blend nicely without looking like cheap Korean MMOs.
Financial crisis of 2008 hit the anime industry hard and caused it to restructure significantly on reduced budgets and low risk ventures.
Dont forget that also this time frame is when online marketing data became largely avalible to the anime industry and the previous year anime like LuckyStar showed you could do low risk low effort highly pandering shows that appeal to the casual audience, and experimental anime began to fall out of favor.
There are still high quality shows, but the quantity of garbage has went way up.
if you go to /r/anime you're going to see seasonal discussions 90% of the time and most seasonal animes are rarely ever going to get mentioned again once they finished airing. So you're inevitable going to see most of the trash that people watch simply out of habit.
in most seasons you are lucky if there is 1 anime that is going to be remembered after three years.
Of the anime released this year, I'd say SPY x Family is the only one with any real re-watch value.
Unfair to base the entirety of the anime production on what you see on a random subreddit? No not at all.
Bro that comment hurt to read. Worst part about it is that it's not entirely wrong.
Yes, there are a lot of generic harem or Isekai anime out there. They appear in pretty much every season because they appeal to the lowest common denominator. But even within those metrics (Isekai/harem) there are plenty of standouts that deserve respect. Harem, I'm not so sure of, but Isekai? Yeah there's plenty of amazing ones.
Wish some of these fellas just...asked for recommendations instead of generalizing everything?
Yes, that is obviously fair, but I don't think the subreddit named /r/anime can be considered to be a "random subreddit" if we're talking about....anime
Attack on Titan is a gem amongst them. Final season episodes pending right now!
Yep that's basically the only modern anime I've seen. Nothing else really arouses any interest whatsoever.
Same here. One punch man was pretty cool though.
Oh yeah, that was pretty great.
Recommend Mob Psycho 100, created by ONE as well.
Same premise for the main character being the strongest, but focuses more on characterization. Although simplistic in style, has some real good animation going on.
It looks terrible. But that's all animation these days. Watch any animated show and it's just way too clean and bright since it's done on a computer. Arcane proves that it can still be done but that's 1 show in an endless sea of garbage.
Arcane was also very, very fucking expensive. There are some rumors that the default solution to any problem they had was throwing more money at it.
It was worth it of course, but it's not like this can be easily replicated
There's still some good stuff out there, it's just that the massive amount of bad stuff from right now is current, and the massive amount of bad stuff from back then has been forgotten.
The best animation in my opinion. Original Hunter x Hunter looks more detailed in the characters than today.
Everything is just seems a lot less detailed now
Hunter x Hunter 1999's atmosphere is just something that the new version couldn't live up to, not to mention the slower pace helped develop the characters more. Would've loved to see the Chimera Ants arc animated in that style.
I respectfully disagree as I wasn’t of this era
You forgot 18+ girls that actually look 18+
Gotta love how women between 18 and like 30 do jot exist in most anime (or almost any hentai, I've heard). They're either drawn as children or as 50 year old mothers with boobs larger than watermelons.
Little known fact but anime women's breasts never stop growing, much like fingernails. They just bigger and juicier the older they get. Some believe it is an evolutionarily defensive trait as the elder generations of anime women can retreat into their cleavage like a turtle into its shell.
The milf era of anime, the absolute best
There's a term for this genre of "perverted, disgusting, gory, violent, sexual, horror, scuzzy, offensive, stupid, exploitative, and nihilistic anime of the 80s' and 90's"—Scuzz.
Wow these just get worse and worse the further you scroll down. Can’t wait to watch a few
I recognize way, way, too many of these.
This is 100% correct. Growing up in the 90s every cartoon/anime here was rated for everyone. This made sure we saw some pretty gnarly shit. I remember borrowing Devilman vhs from the local library and that has like guts spilled to the floor in the first 5 minutes. I assume no one checked if indeed every cartoon was meant just for kids haha. Fantastic starter pack, brought back fun memories (laughs in trauma)
I remember in the mid 2000s, I went to the library to check out manga / anime. Was like the only way for me.
I remember asking 'where are the graphic novels?', and the librarian looked at me like a degenerate and walked away.
Dude how crazy it is how ubiquitous anime has become? Kids these days dont even know the struggle.
"Back in my day if we wanted to watch new anime episodes we had to walk three miles in the snow, uphill to a Suncoast. Three episodes cost 35 bucks. You kids nowadays have it easy."
Suncoast! Wow. Nostalgia big time. Freakin loved those stores.
And you had to feel like a criminal with all the warning stickers.
I’m still dealing with this with mom
Of all the shit I watched when we had anime channels on TV, she had trouble with Dragon Ball… like, of all the things!!
She never forbade me to watch anything, but the “angry faces” bothered her. 15 years later she admitted she misjudged the whole thing
In the mean time, I was watching Hellsing (oh! all that gore!), B’t X (it beat Stephen King in giving me a fear of clowns, kinda gory, and all the characters had so many mental issues they were like “yeyyy, dethhh”… and the manga made it worse/sadder, but I read that one as an adult), GS Mikami (haven’t rewatched it yet, but I do remember plenty of stuff I now know is inappropriate), Saber Marionette (do I need to say anything??), Gantz, Hell Girl… among others I can’t think of right now
… but mom never bat an eye at those because they were “pretty”-looking (aka no angry faces)
My mom didn't allow me (10) to watch pokémon because grandma said it had demons in it, but I was allowed to watch and buy Hellsing (and a ton of other adult anime) just because my grandma never heard about it and therefore they must be OK 'cartoons' like Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon, lmao.
Like I was allowed to watch Saw but not Harry Potter.
Similar here, back in the late 90s and early 00s my mom wouldn’t let me or my siblings touch anything to do with Pokémon, but this also extended to Dragon Ball and Harry Potter.
At some point later she saw a random picture of Pikachu somewhere online, commented that it was cute, and asked if I knew what it was from, which was a bit awkward lol. I don’t think she actually looked into any of the things she barred us from and was just operating based on the hysteria that was circulating the mom forums at the time (which were like mom Facebook before Facebook was a thing).
Oh god! Your just reminded of a glitch in the Matrix I had with mom regarding Pokémon
Personally, I don’t care much about the series, if anything, I would put it as background noise when I was a kid
However, I play Pokémon Go… and so does mom… like she plays more than I
Also need to clarify that, after she watched DBZ, us watching the Dragon Ball movies in the cinema when they were released since then was a given
Now, at the time that Detective Pikachu was released, I was busy with exams and whatnot. But I did have a free afternoon. Told mom about the movie, and that Pikachu was voiced by Deadpool but she said she wanted to torrent it because it was gonna be childish. Like… what?! Super out of character for her
I obviously didn’t torrent it and we spent the afternoon browsing cable. Well… you’ll never guess what she ended up wanting to watch: THAT FREAKING POKÉMON MOVIE WHERE PIKACHU TELLS ASH HE WANTS TO NE WITH HIM (or something like that… but you know which one I’m talking about… the super cringy one)
You won’t believe how engaged she was. Then, at some point, they showed a Detective Pikachu commercial. She really regretted telling me she’d be embarrassed to go to watch it… I was like whatever, I’m busy af and it’s not really on my radar… wait until HBO or Fox gets it
To this day, I don’t understand why she acted so embarrassed at the idea of watching a Pokémon movie when we watch “childish” stuff in the movies all the time
I remember hentai being among the kids movies back in the early 2000 movie rental. Animated = for kids amirite? It quickly went to the adults section after showing the backside of the dvd to the owner lol.
I found Mononoke (2007) in the kids section at the library and took it home because the cover looked cool, and upon watching it I discovered it was definitely put in the wrong section
Here in Finland there is a bit of a cult classic anime called Silver Fang. Back in 90s kids could borrow it from libraries. It's animated and features dogs. Perfect for children, right? Haha, no, of course not.
This show is brutal. Supposedly the bloodiest parts were cut when the show got dubbed in Finnish, but you couldn't tell from the stuff that they decided to leave in. In the first episode a hunter gets his leg injured while hunting a murderous bear. His bear dog also got injured in the confrontation with the bear. The hunter and the dog are forced to take refuge in a small cave while a blizzard is raging outside and the bear is out there hunting the hunter.
The hunter can't move and the dog has ran out of strength. The hunter starts rambling fanatically about how he must survive the predicament. He slowly pulls out a cleaver and raises it. It looks like he is going to kill his exhausted dog. The cleaver comes down... CHOP! There is blood everywhere. But the dog is fine! The hunter chopped off his own broken leg! He tries to forcefully feed it to his dog, shouting how the dog must regain his strength so that they both may survive. The dog looks terrified while the hunter keeps forcing the human meat down his throat. When the hunter releases his grip, the dog immediately takes a few steps back and throws up.
I love it.
I was at a Circuit City back in the day (when they were still around) and on a whim, nabbed Ninja Scroll on DVD. Must have watched it twice that night and many times after that. It’s such a perfect movie that shows that sometimes there are no good endings, just endings. I haven’t watched it in years since my SO isn’t into anime and my kid isn’t old enough yet. I have been putting on Studio Ghibli stuff when it’s just me and my boy though.
My very first anime exposure was Demon Scroll. It played at 5 in the morning on one of the premium cable channels when they had their free weekends. First time I saw someone get bifurcated.
The Devilman English dub is hilariously awesome, so much gratuitous swearing. "Holy fucking shit Ryou, what the fuck is going on?!"
"And then, he died."
"BWAAAAAUGH."
My cousin gave me Ninja Scroll on VHS when I was about 8-9 years old and it was my first time seeing crazy ultra-violence like that but I fucking loved it back then and must have watched it 30+ times in the space of a year.
It had loads of adverts at the start for these kinda 80's/90's style films and series but I had no idea where to find them at that age. In the internet age I need to go out and find them all again now I think
I got you, fam:
https://youtu.be/UPiKvQjVh8M
I had the Ninja Scroll vhs back then and it was released under US Manga Corp in the US. That's how I got into watching many of the rest and it became my fav anime time period.
Def recommend Cyber City Oedo 808.
Wow, what a look into the past that was...
BIG WARS
(the most biggliest you've ever seen, trust me)
Yup my friend still reminds me about the time some dude lost a fight because he ate a chic out.
I watched akira as a kid a few times and had no idea what the fuck was going on, but I loved it.
I still am not totally sure if I remember what it’s about. Should watch it again.
This is just Akira
akira, gits, ninja scroll. The holy trinity. Add some mecha stuff and you covered 90% of anime available in the west.
90s berserk tv show
one of my favourites. the Eclipse scared the FUCK out of me as a kid who only picked up the show to see titties
I didn't see that back then. But just saw on netflix that there's a new berserk series. I'll give that a go.
No dont
Watching the 90s is more great and tells it more accurately. You wanna do it right do it right.
Dude no
Is it that bad? I don't have sweet childhood memories of the original one. Is that really that good, or just nostalgia? Is this new one really shit, or just grown up mind vs. nostalgia?
The 2012 OVAs aren't bad, but the animation style choice is questionable. It gets better/less noticeable as you watch, but in 2016 or whenever they released the anime follow-up used the same animation style except way worse and it looks like dog shit.
There's a new bastard series on netflix released yesterday. I can't believe everyone already knows it's all shit...
I mean, we were talking about Berserk in this thread so I can't speak to Bastard
Aight, I'm an idiot. Don't mind me.
All animated berserk is pretty bad.
But if you can stomach it the newest ovas are worth it for literally the last 20 min of the third movie
WE HAVE GATHERED AT THIS APPROPRIATE TIME AND PLACE LET US BEGIN THE RITUAL
I'm watching the first episode of the old ova, and it's pretty funny so far with those fucking panties and the super quick, super dumb conversations. I'll check the new one and see how they compare.
I didn't watch the 90s one until recently and it's amazing. Just be prepared for what most modern audiences may call a "slow burn" but it's 100% worth it. The classics really are still famous for a reason; it's not just nostalgia.
Remakes and decades-later sequels are almost always terrible.
pls dont, its the '97 anime, manga or nothing
The movies are an okay introduction. The second one kind of stinks but the third one is actually great.
The 2016 show is mega butts though, avoid at all costs.
Dude, please just watch the 90s one. It's good. The newer one isn't.
Don't mind me, i was looking at bastard on netflix. I'm an idiot.
Evangelion...
Evangelion was my immediate thought
watched all of the eva episodes and movies not too long ago. wild ride. rebuild is so sick
yeah, was shocked to see no frames from it even though it fits pretty much all of this lol
Is on the VHS picture.
damn yeah i missed that
Pokemon, Dragonball Z, Hamtaro
Jin-roh: The Wolf Brigade, Fist of the North Star, Vampire Hunter D, Record of Lodoss War...so much good stuff back then
"gits"????
ghost in the shell
Ninja Scroll fucked me up as a 5 year old in 90s.
Yeah, i was in my teens and it was shocking that you can do these things in general, let alone in a cartoon. As a preteen? Uhh. I saw the first terminator as a 5-ish kid. Fucked me up.
Yeah, they pretty egregiously neglected a lot of obvious popular choices:
The 90's are where we really start to hit our stride though with the true era of Shounen/Shojo and such iconic works as:
edit: Weirdly, writing this list makes me want to watch Ruroni Kenshin again. Not sure why it's drawn out that one in specific for me.
OP seems to be specifically referencing movies and OVAS (like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, End of Evangelion, Jin-Roh, Gunbuster, Wicked City, Macross and Bubblegum Crisis) which are awesome and very of-the-era but were few and far between relative to serialised TV shows and aren’t representative of the medium as a whole at all
Yeah. It’s the same dog shit listing people who venerate the 80s and 90s do. It’s a handful of series/OVAs/movies that are all time classics and is missing a lot of the every day stuff, simply because it was never translated and made it to the west. So they end up thinking things like Akira, GiTS, Urotsukidouji, Genocyber, Violence Jack, Evangelion, etc. we’re the norm when they were very much exceptions.
Classics like Kimagure Orange Road, Maison Ikkou, Dr Slump, Ranma 1/2, and SlayerS are a few absolute classics of the era, but often get overlooked because they aren’t hyper violent OVAs and movies. Even ones like Gunbuster, Dirty Pair, or Dominion Tank Police, or Project A-ko get overlooked on these lists because they’re not gory enough.
It’s a tragic holdover of marketing in the 90s with companies like Manga Entertainment trying to differentiate themselves from cartoons (if you remember those adverts, their gimmick was that anime wasn’t just cartoons) and that you have lots of teenagers and young people who are insecure about liking something that can be construed as childish, so will over compensate by always trying to show off edgier and gorier stuff.
So you end up with the same list of recycled shows.
I'm just glad to see Ranma 1/2 being mentioned. It was one of my favorites growing up. Along with City Hunter and Grendizer (this is like "The Godfather" of Mechas). Plus the most famous ones like Dragon Ball, Saint Seiya...
You’ve just sparked some random memory for me, being a kid in the UK and watching late night TV without my parents knowing. It’s absolutely true that anime was put forward in the mainstream as this hyper-edgy, completely out-there thing.
In the late 90s/early 2000s there were tons of those “top 10 most shocking something” or “top 30 craziest something” shows on (which nowadays people just make in their bedrooms and post on YouTube, instead of studios churning them out and airing them on national television at 10pm on weekdays). I remember being about 8 years old and catching something like “25 wildest moments in Japanese cartoons” which basically translated to being a compilation of tentacle r*pe and brutal death scenes from random OVAs.
Kimagure is full on disco insanity
Yeah, this reads more like “anime that was available at Blockbuster in the 90’s.” I remember when it was just one little section of the store, and you’d get Akira, Ninja Scroll, and maybe a Tenchi Muyo movie or part of Bubblegum Crisis if you were lucky. It glosses over a LOT of what was actually coming out at the time.
Exactly. And it doesn't take a lot to look for anime charts of releases from these eras to see how little they make up of the overall output. They're the most notable titles for a reason, they are iconic. But it makes people falsely believe that it was 100% of what was out at the time because so much has either been lost to time or never got picked up by fansubbers. Especially in the era of Torrents, it's actually quite sad when you see that stuff is dead and probably unrecoverable if there are no seeders.
I remember some years back I was watching Ginguiser because it's fucking awful, but funny to watch anyway. I just looked and there are a few seeders for some episodes, but it's dead besides that. Fucking lol at remembering this gattai.
https://animanachronism.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/gingiser-gattai.gif?w=255&h=191
Not sure they are exceptions, there were a lot of that kind of anime especially in the 80s. Bubblegum crisis/crash/AD police, Sonic Soldier Borgman, Silent Mobius, Baoh, Detonator Orgun, M.D. Geist, Cybernetics Guardian, The Dark Myth, Lily C.A.T., Darkside Blues, and more. 80s-90s anime did often have a violent cyberpunk aspect to it, and while comedy did exist, it didn't as much as the 2000s and up I think.
They're still exceptions. Many of the ones you listed are late 80s/early 90s economic bubble high production OVAs/films. Lesser talked about ones, but still from a very small part of those two decades.
This isn't inclusive of all years (mid to late 80s are missing), but if you look at these charts for the 80s and 90s https://imgur.com/gallery/78Ous they aren't giving those dark violent cyberpunk vibes at all in the vast majority of cases. More than today, sure. But that's more due to a change of what's popular than what's not. Much like movie and TV trends have changed.
Thank you for reminding me of AD Police though. Absolutely fantastic OVA.
Speaking of Dr. Slump, why the fuck haven't the 80's and late 90's adaptations got official English dubs/subs yet? The most we've seen of Slump over here are 2 crossovers + 1 cameo in OG DB and DBS, a few moblie games, and as a playable character in Budokai Tenkaichi 3. Couldn't Toriyama just hand it over to Funimation and get it over with?
I distinctly remember in my local libraries and stores seeing many copies of Ranma 1/2, also.
Your list is so accurate!
Ghost in the Shell, Trigun, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, then if you want to stretch it a bit to early 00s, Black Lagoon. There's so much good shit it's hard to count it.
Thank you! OP's list is missing so much!
Saint fucking seiya
Basically male sailor moon
Good shit my dude
Take it easy, man lol. It's not "egregious," it's called a "starter pack," not a "complete pack."
I mean, if I wanted to get someone into this era of anime, I wouldn't start with anything on this list except maybe Gundam.
Ghost in the Shell and Akira are actually really freaking weird movies. The latter I walked away from confused and disturbed. I would 100% start on Castle in the Sky, Ruroni Kenshin, or Dragonball.
Ruroni Kenshin and cowboy fall under the category of timeless for me. The others like yu yu Hakusho are great and ahead of their time but you see a ton of anime that replicate the feel. Rurouni falls under that 90’s feel that they can’t replicate any more. And well cowboy is extremely unique and executed perfectly IMO.
Studio ghibli is truly special and I can’t put them in the category of anime anymore. When you see a movie you don’t say that “anime movie “you say “studio ghibli” movie. The feel is so unique even if they changed the art style to something more westernized it’ll still feel it’ll hit that spot. I don’t even have to explain what it is, y’all know what the magic they make feels like.
I mean hand drawn is up on the starter pack which includes all those. Sailor moon has that weird pseudo nudity in every transformation.
Berserk has the nudity and ultra violence. I even thought of it when viewing the image
I grew up watching most of those in the 80s/90s, especially Dragon Ball and Saint Seiya. Plus, Grendizer, City Hunter, Ranma 1/2... Those were my favorites. Great times!
To be fair, Akira is fucking fantastic so it does tend to eclipse a lot of other shows.
Cybercity OEDO 808
(The three dudes bottom right corner)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0220218/
Absolutely fantastic and well worth the watch.
Ghost in the shell…
Not one mention of Vampire Hunter D and I am disappointed.
https://youtu.be/r_3lER_UhYQ
Anime music video with all of these things
Wow. An AMV. I guess I'm going to go visit Hell again. See you all in, like, twelve hours.
That was really good
Yea the guy made the song/edited the video all by himself. It’s catchy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LD3NKlS55g
I believe the spider demon woman on the bottom left is from the same movie as this music video. Movie is called Wicked City.
Oooh nice find. Yea someone broke down the whole video once when it was posted here a while back but haven’t watched everything from it yet.
Thanks for reminding me how much fun I had in 2002
early YouTube flashbacks lol
lol quite a few of those are recent 2009+ shows that were put though a VHS filter
Evangelion in a nutshell
And now we have tons of pedo school girls bs
Also the mc is actually a neet that got run over by a truck and was reborn in another world
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The only personality trait he has is sex offender
I tried watching the 7 Deadly Sins since that anime is fairly well known. Out the gate the mc sexually assaults a girl while she’s sleeping. Couldn’t take much more after that.
Oh yeah, remember watching it because I like everything related to the 7 sins, but damn was it hard to bear this stuff
I like my anime... not filled to the brim with cringey tropes.
Understandable. I rarely watch anime so I have no idea about what's good or anything. I believe the last one I watched was Fullmetal alchemist and that's only because one told me they had something with the 7 sins in it as well :'3
If you liked Fullmetal you should also watch Attack on Titan (probably an overly recommended suggestion but I don't come to these parts often). I find they have similar vibes but very different execution and it's just a wild ride.
Idk if attack on titan is good or not but I heard many times it portrayed war inaccurately
It absolutely portrays war inaccurately but that's partially because it's an incredibly unconventional war. I'd still recommend it because it's a really interesting story and it's one of those slowly unravelling mysteries that always leaves you wanting more. I'm not too concerned with accuracy of war as long as I get a good story put of it.
By the inaccurate portrayal of war, the only example I heard of is the way soldier character(s?) handle loss of their friends in war when it comes to how traumatic the experience is and how they handle the trauma.
I do wonder if the way the wars in Attack on Titan are unusual make the above reasonable in the context of this show
I think in the context it makes sense. It's also fast-paced so there isn't really enough time to dive in to the PTSD related to each battle. There is some truly mind-breaking stuff that happens around these characters but it's also all they know, so sometimes they don't act how you'd expect someone in the real world to react.
It doesn't really get better after that point. I suffered through the first season and it wasn't terrible but after that point the writers clearly ran into the same "fuck our entire cast of characters is insanely overpowered" problem that Heroes did, and Seven Deadly Sins handled it about as well.
When they kill the main enemy at the end of every season but the same villain doesn't actually die.. ever. There's not resolution to anything in that show. Just sexual assault and fights with no true stakes
Finally, a character our audience can relate to.
I like how each person in the comment chain has clearly delved deeper into anime than the one before them yet all have something specific to complain about depending on how deep they've gone
I struggled to make a coherent sentence out of my thoughts wtf was that so hard to say
Which makes him the perfect self insert.
He just like me fr fr
The less personality a character has, the easier for the viewer to project onto
SexWithFischl69 : )
The real gems are the female protagonist villainess isekais
Bakarina you lovely idiot
Wait until you learn that there's an entire subgenre full of Bakarina's
Oh I know. I have soft spot for Bakarinas
Ahhh yes, So I'm a Spider, So What?
It's overdone but I don't really mind this as an inciting incident. It gets the story going, and isekai is basically just fantasy with the convenience of having the protagonist be just as clueless as the viewer, so wold building is easier. The problems arise when the entire show is just cliches.
You can easily do world building through exposition, it has existed long before isekai. The most basic one is to have a clueless, sheltered everyman who is thrust into adventure with a ragtag bunch of misfits. The issue with that though is you can't just lean on an imprintable Gary Stu, a boring neckbeard with the advantage of retained memories of their convenient previous life specialism.
I get that some people won't hate it, but at the current point it's just lazy writing. They don't want to bother writing a relatable protagonist, much easier to have your target demographic pop straight into the world so you can get straight to the cringe harem subplots.
Yeah, either a sheltered noble or a clueless peasant from a reclusive community would work perfectly fine as far as needing the world explained goes.
Not that so many of these anime even need such a device since they consistently rely on the most basic fantasy tropes, typical Tolkien/D&D races, cliche hero vs demon lord plot or obvious straightforward reversion. The transported character really is used mostly for self-insert fantasy escapism.
You can easily do world building through exposition, it has existed long before isekai
Except isekai has been around a long damn time because of its convenience.
Peter Pan
Alice in Wonderland (1840s?)
Chronicles of Narnia
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
Are all by definition isekai. There are probably much older stories, but these are the first to come to mind.
It's called "portal fiction" in western literature. And you gave several examples of it being done well, which is why I don't think truck-kun is that big of a deal. Especially relative to all the other writing issues in 90% of isekai.
I mean yeah, a lot of isekais have issues lol. Tensura Slime is probably my favorite.
Tensura is a fun one. It's not my favorite or anything but it's easy and fun to watch. It's one of my rainy day anime, because it usually puts me on a good mood. The light novel is a fun read too if that's your jam.
I have actually started the LN. I read a little bit on my lunch breaks. Its a good read.
I personally have enjoyed the recent trend where the neet mc is basically a god after being transported.
I mean idk about anyone else but if I suddenly arrived at a place and there's magic and shit I would go so fucking hard to learn literally everything I could.
Yes I'm a Mage cuck I pick spell casters in fucking everything
But so many of these need some contrived reason for why this protagonist is so much more special than everyone who lived there their whole life learning magic and special skills. They often don't even have an interesting reason, they just say he's the fated hero and call it a day.
Even the anime that pretend they will subvert the formula don't take long to hand out broken powers, easy success and an assortment of love interests, looking at you Re:Zero.
I was amused once but by this point I'm so damn tired of this formula. I miss when alternate worlds were alternate worlds, unique and strange instead of predictably like a generic fantasy game.
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I'm very well aware of truck-kun lol
Hell, two of my favorite western shows are effectively Isekai, though one of them was voluntary until their way back got obliterated. (I'm talking about Amphibia and The Owl House of course.)
Samurai Jack is the quintessential isekai and you cannot tell me otherwise.
People that read tons of isekai are basically the character model for Shinji of NGE
The only reason is so that they can have tons of lazy jokes about being Japanese with pop culture references.
Almost like fischl! Got iskaied into mondstadt
Man, I remember the first time I ran into that trope as a kid. I was in MediaPlay (fuck, I'm old) and saw something that had a penguin on the cover, so I asked for it, parents got it for me. It was Tuxedo Gin and it was fucking weird, but I really liked it as a kid. But, yeah, inciting incident, guy gets in a car accident, angel's like, "That's weird, you're not supposed to be dead yet," and he gets reincarnated as a penguin but keeps his memory and personality.
Yeah these modern isekais are getting ridiculous. If anybody wants an actual good one from the 90s though, Escaflowne is where its at. Definitely one of the originators of the genre, but thankfully feels much less like wish fulfillment for NEETS.
mc is actually a neet
Not just any neet, it's usually a middle aged neet running after 14 yr olds.
Ackshually, he fell in front of a tractor and died of shock.
I miss the times where everythings wan't so... moe-fied. From the colours to the facial features, everything looks much more mature.
The starterpack doesn't show it but women in anime used to be in fact more than giant eyes, blush, and a dot for a nose.
The creator of Akira was noted for showing his girls as "not pretty"
Space Dandy, Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop are the three best anime and they're all by the same guy
This is why I think anime needs to be less popular in the West, Americans are really just put off by kawaii culture, there's some serious cultural mistranslation going on and the average person just isn't equipped to get it
People must think manga artists put in school-age girls with huge boobs because they're lonely weirdos who love forcing their fetishes on their unsuspecting readers
People don't realize cuteness is basically their life, that shit is fucking everywhere in Japan, like it's not even funny
Neh, Anime just needs to change and stop pandering to "Otaku"
Bring back the experimental, stylish, wild stuff with good stories and characters and make that the norm like it used to be instead of the exception.
I too miss the square heads with eyes that take up 2/3 of the face. The styles are so much better now than they uesed to be.
That's early 00s style (e.g. Clannad). 80s had decent style like Bubblegum Crisis.
Bruh, if anything the eyes are 2/3 now. Even Sailor Moon, which started the moe trend, is more proportional than Lucky Star or K-on.
You're cherry-picking the best of 80/60s not to mention two entirely different genres. Sailor Moon didn't start the big eye trend. A quick google of 80's anime shows that. Sailor Moon and DBZ both have eyes much larger than current anime.
Dunno if you're misremembering but K-On has better proportions and is also more than 10 years old so idk what you mean by "now".
Not to mention a lot of older shit is far less proportional than most of the modern shit these guys are complaining about. Honestly they probably haven't watched any of it besides Satoshi Kon, Ghibli and Akira.
No modern show can ever compare to Saber Marionette J
See also Saber Marionette J, which aired in the mid-90s
They look deformed.
If you only you look into garbage can, and to your surprise all you can find is garbage then isn’t that kinda your fault? There was plenty of shit anime before that has just been forgotten with history.
BuT sHe iS iN FaCt 100 YeArS oLd
it's an android, so it doesn't count as child abuse.
Detroit: Become Human is my favorite anime
I don't think I have ever seen someone make this excuse, ever.
I have seen it mentioned repeatedly in post regarding Bakemonogatari. Most of the time, as a self-deprecating joke
It's so gross, I'm tired of this modern anime
Well that's on you. Don't watch those ecchi fan service shows. There have been some really good animes lately. For example: love is war, demon slayer or spy X family to name a few of the top of my head.
Can't wait for Vinland Saga S2
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>I've seen too many guys want their gfs to enjoy animes with em and a lot of times, it doesn't end well.
I think this just comes down to recommending the wrong stuff, I'm older so I don't really care for the fan service stuff myself (though it can have it's place at times). I think too many just try to start newbies, especially girls and women, out on stuff like the latest Isekai with a new slave girl every other chapter or something similarly geared toward the power fantasies of boys and young men when they should start out with something less juvenile that's actually targeted towards women. which, in my opinion, (standard Isekai reverse herems aside) tend to be better written with better characters anyway. Sort of as a rule I don't recommend Anime/Manga to anyone that hasn't shown interest but I'd feel no qualms about recommending Yona of the Dawn, or Violet Evergarden to most woman
Spy x Family legitimately does not have creepy stuff, it's a great show about exactly what it says in the title. But it's unfortunate that shows like that are the exception.
To be fair, I stopped watching anime because most anime has fan service. No matter how tame.
Yeah, it feels like it's gotten more difficult to avoid it than when I was younger, I just don't know if there's going to be some weird or silly sex shit, whether it's the obvious boobasaurus jiggling everywhere or a more low-key perverted vibe in general.
I've seen a number of great anime recently that avoided it, but it's such a roll of the dice, you can't even predict it by genre or story anymore, it's just there randomly or it's not, also randomly. "Hey, this deadly serious grim post apocalyptic action anime should be totally devoid of any oh there it is, panty shots, yep." And it's tricky to ask people for recs because many have been watching anime for so long that they're inured to all but the most egregious fan service. That applies to me, too, what I consider nothing might be very annoying to someone completely unfamiliar with anime. It's just some shit to navigate.
I didn’t start watching until I was in my 30s. I just can’t take anime that seriously.
Definite words of wisdom, I too used to be a rabid otaku who's art school portfolio was mostly 'realistic' anime characters etc. Now days I've moved on from that shit, don't get me wrong I still watch anime but it doesn't define my life.
I'm not watching but I can certainly still say I'm disgusted that 99% of animes are pedophile trash. JuSt DoNt WaTcH ThEm is a weak defence mate
Demon slayer and good.
Hah.
While I think it's good it is a bit overrated and having read the manga the pacing of the story in general is terrible.
It's sneaky shounen that hides all the power up arcs.
I was really not a fan of the first season, but the second season was great. Blonde boy really turned it around IMO.
Didnt find one mainstream modern anime without those actresses taking little girl voice, perverted scenes or undertone.
Clearly made by horny men nothing to save...
Jujutsu Kaisen exists. There is no creepy fanservice and it's extremely popular.
The main female character in the trio, Nobara, is a badass. My favorite secondary female character, Maki, is also a badass in her own way. Neither of them are sexualized. Two of the best women in anime I've seen recently.
Thanks! Will defo check it out
The people who make that joke are the same ones who read Game of Thrones, filled with 9yr olds getting fucked.
Preach.
8 year girls with baby voices and no noses
My brother in Christ that is literally in Evangelion
Half the cast was older though at least
it’s always been that way with anime, it fucking sucks. They are just less subtle about it now.
It's infuriating. My favorite anime when I was in high school was about high school girls being high school girls and actively made fun of moe. I figured I'd take a look at some recommendations people have made online and it's... really bad. I wanted humor and what I get every time is poorly performed dramas with so much sexual tension it'll make your skin crawl.
:edit: Apparently the style is known as "iyashikei" and focuses on peaceful and calming parts of life. Maybe that's what drew me in.
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The thing is, I don't want any drama. I'm out here looking for a good, mostly clean (because there's always a beach episode no matter what), comedy.
Lucky star and Nichijou are both comedies that don't rely on sexual jokes so you may like them.
Asobi asobase is also really good, probably the best comedy anime I have watched but I wouldn't call it clean though, it also doesn't rely on sexual jokes nor does it have sexual/fanservice scenes.
Nichijou seemed like the most similar to what I had in mind. I tried Lucky Star but didn't care for the art style. The recommendations I've received in the past can be described as either worse or worse and horny.
But Nichijou doesn't look too bad.
When I was 15 it was hot, now that I'm 19 it's getting bad
bro seriously. bring back the babes
They're still there.
UwU
There's plenty of great anime being produced if you actually look for it.
Not everything has gross fanservice and creepy male characters.
Yes, ruined the anime genre for the majority.
A lot of the golden era anime is very philosophical in nature, which is great for analysis and stuff. I’m not that fond to newer anime because of that.
There was plenty of that before, don’t even try to make that argument.
Is it pedo if the target audience is the same age as the characters?
Written, produced, directed, drawn and approved by old men and consumed by mostly adult men.
I don't think a teenager is going to write, produce, direct, and draw an entire anime lmao
and most the girls are actually guys
feels so cozy.like you are at home in bed.and its raining outside.
Also even though it is anime it felt more realistic than what we get today. At least the neo Tokyo and cyberpunk stuff which will always be one of my favourite genres. Just the gritty atmosphere and dark looming structures with bright neon colours is so awesome to look at.
Sounds right
Just watched Vampire Hunter D
Would love the list from this starter pack
Try Cyber City Oedo 808 my friend.
Thanks bubb
sooo... I compiled this list from replies here:
akira
golgo 13
ghost in the shell
appleseed
fist of the north star
berzerk
basilisk
angels egg
trigun
gundam
macross plus
robotech
star blazers
doomed megalopolis
wicked city
legend of escaflowne
perfect blue
devilman ova
genocyber
urotsukidoji
ciber city oedo 808
battle angel alita
armitage III
patlabor 1 & 2
memories 1995
redlines 2009
wings of honnesamise
neo tokyo 1987
venus wars 1989
Bubblegum Crisis / Bubblegum Crash
Ad Police
Dominion Tank Police
Project A-ko
Gunbuster
Nadesico
City Hunter
Iria: Zeiram the Animation
Lupin the Third
Megazone 23
serial experiments lain
bublegum crysis
metal skin panic madox 01
big wars
cibernetics guardian
md geist 1 2
kite
memories
dirty pair
lone star
demon city shinjiku
redline
gungrave
metropolis
Urusei Yatsura movie 2: Beautiful Dreamer
Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
Record of the Lodoss War
8 Man After
Robot Carnival
(Not 90s, but if you like Robot Carnival, you might like Genius Party)
sf2 animated movie
spriggan
Rurouni Kenshin OVAs
legend of the galactic heroes
saint seyia
Holy fuck you're so solid
I'm gonna save this and watch my way through
yep, this is the exact reason I made the list :))) I didn t add the ones I loved:
ninja scroll
vampire hunter d ( plus bloodlust )
basilisk
evangelion
helsing ( plus ova )
everything from studio ghibli
Oh man I've watched Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust like four times
The art is just gorgeous
Thanks for including your favs
I wish modern western audiences these days weren't so adverse to the idea of piloted robots.
I think its just the fact that the robot is cgi is putting ppl off
You haven't seen the ways some people tiptoe around having to admit that a show they like is a mecha.
"oh I just like it because of the characters", or
"It's not actually a mecha show because..."
It's like some people are embarrassed to admit that they like something that has mechs in it. Like they'd rather be caught watching loli porn than a mecha show.
What’s not to love about mechs
Errbody gangsta til the tank start walkin lmao
What? I fucking love mecha
fondly looks at my gunpla display
SO THATS WHY IM SINGLE
Wow. TIL. I'll never deny my mecha/giant robot love. How can it not be cool? How?
everybody loved mechs until anime made em stupid
sorry
That's weird to me. I've never been big into mechs myself or anime in general, but things like Gigantor always seemed like a lot of fun.
I get that people get all huffy about what other people enjoy. I've jokingly called people I know weebs, but I've also tried to also communicate that I mean it jokingly and that they can enjoy whatever the fuck they want. And I know shit gets tropey fast in anime/manga, but there's so damn much of it that any trope that's overdone in terrible trash also has some good examples too.
But whenever Studio Orange animates the CGI robot a lot of people love it.
Yeah, hand drawn Mecha is a lost art.
Knights of Sidonia was 100% cgi and the mech looked great. The human characters not so much
AC6 would be nice
Armored Core 6? You have no fucking idea how much I want it to happen.
Souls and Elden Ring are real fun and all, but honestly I've had my fill of the fantasy genre.
I'm fairly certain Fromsoft has stated a new Armored Core is happening. They've also said that their next game is almost done, so it might come sooner than you might think.
As long as it’s not a continuation of V
I'd wonder if that would be wise. It's been a long while since an armored core and they weren't exactly at the forefront during their time. Might be set in the same world, but I would expect it to be a standalone story, or even a soft reboot.
I've played every Armored Core game, I'd do things with my hands and mouth for a new one. They were incredibly punishing so even before the souls games I knew it would be some fromsoft git gud bullshit I'd become obsessed with.
I hate FROMSOFTWARE. They abandoned a 20 year franchise for making the same difficult game again and again where most of the history is written in the item description. Rinse and repeat.
Dude just slap mecha into a Souls game.
I'd buy it.
You'd buy it.
Shit my wife's boyfriend would buy it.
We might be getting one soon. They've got a project that they haven't said anything about nearing completion, and given the AC6 leaks earlier might actually be that.
I want it to be like AC3 and have an ARENA! Hell, I think hardware has improved so much, that a remake of AC3 could be downright AMAZING
well there was news a few days ago that FromSoft already have a game in its final development stages and many people are hoping that it's armored core 6
6 or a reboot would be nice...either way a new armored core game please!
...Are they? I thought Pacific Rim did really well. The sequel was shit, but the first movie was a banger.
I get the feeling that a good chunk of the reason why Pacific Rim did good was because it was also a Kaiju film, which attracts the crowd that already enjoys seeing giant behemoths fighting and causing collateral damage. The names that were behind the movie's production garnered interest as well I believe.
I don't think anybody is against it, but it's not as popular lately.
Y'know, much as I like giant robots, I've never actually sat down and watched all the classics (Gundam, Macross, Evangelion, etc); most of my experience is with Power Rangers and the recent Voltron show on Netflix.
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Flesh mecha
Hot 🥵🥵🤪😈🤖
When flesh mecha is also your mom
Shit… you’re absolutely right. AoT is a (flesh) mecha show.
AoT was heavily inspired by a mecha VN. So there’s that too
Eva appears like mecha initially.
I thought ATOT was considered a mecha anime? Or am I being dumb
It’s a bit of a grey area. It has all the makings of a mecha, but it doesn’t feel like one. And I’m not talking in the typical pissant way where people think that you can’t have biomecha, since that’s been a thing since the 80s and 90s with stuff like Genocyber, Guyver, Evangelion, Raxephon, etc. exist.
SnK has all the makings of a mecha anime, but the way the story is told and presented, it doesn’t feel like mecha. It’s kind of like how something like Kill la Kill is 100% a mahou shoujo anime, all the way down to adversary come ally tropes. But people will not overtly regard that as mahou shoujo.
I wouldn’t call it a mecha anime, but I also wouldn’t say that it isn’t either.
It’s so fun when a creator bends a genre like that. Wish it were more common.
Yeah, I really like it too. Like if you're really into a certain genre that is being aped, you'll get a huge kick out of it. It's like KLK was also a huge nod to Super Robot shows and I loved it for that as well, because I grew up watching Super Robot shows like Mazinger, Getter Robo and other things like Sailor Moon of course. It was a good blend of the two, but with a fresh approach.
AoT also has a brown-haired kid piloting a bio-mech because of his mysterious bespectacled father
Season 4 spoilers: >! ... who later causes the apocalypse, just like Shinji!<
Saying Evangelion is a mecha is like saying 2001: A Space Odyssey is a space opera.
I mean, 86 and Attack On Titan are popular recent shows on /r/anime. So mecha is by no means dead in the West. And mecha is not in any danger of dying in Japan.
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I only ever played Car Wars once, but it was glorious.
Are they?
Why is there this weird aversion towards mecha that seems to be floating about??? is there a mecha show that ruined the genre for people i dont know about??
Pacific rim
Nobody hates mecha except maybe me. Stop lying to yourself.
Cyber city oedo 808!!! Shit goes hard!
Gundam was legendary though
You should watch some of the new universal century stuff it's great! Keeps the more traditional art style and storytelling
I miss the genre of “giant robots punching/shooting other giant robots and/or monsters in space.” Pacific Rim was the last piece of media like that that I absolutely loved.
That's mecha. It still exists.
You're thinking of Legends of the Galactic Heroes 😜
Edit: It's a joke, because they called Gundam Legendary, and Legends of the Galactic Heroes has "legend" in the title...
I like 80s 90s anime. Very lofi animation
Damn, people here talking like all the stuff we get nowadays is trash or something.
People tend to forget that 80's and 90's had turds aswell, those didn't survive to this day. Survivor bias.
It’s a good filter for people who do not know a fucking thing they’re talking about. Even classics like Aim for the Ace, Kimagure Orange Road, and Manson Ikkou never make these lists because people list the same 30 movies, OVAs, and Gundam/LOGH.
Even some really good OVAs like Dominion Tank Police, Gunbuster, or Dirty Pair rarely make these lists because they aren’t edgy enough.
But even greybeards kind of are missing things here; Urusei Yatsura or Ah! My Goddess come to mind. Rumiko also did the very violent Mermaid Forest OVAs, and things like Mai the Psychic Girl or Video Girl AI get forgotten too.
Stuff is just old man and us guys who watched anime are hitting our 40s and 50s now.
I was going to mention Urusei Yatsura too, but I'm not sure how people would receive it since I've seen people have spicy takes.
Stuff is just old man and us guys who watched anime are hitting our 40s and 50s now.
I'm lucky in that I had an older brother who got me into anime at a very young age. And I was savvy enough to use my pocket money to buy postal orders to get VHS fansubs for anime or picking them up from some much older guys at places like my local GW shop. Weird times thinking about it now seeing as I was only like 8-12 at the time, but here we go. Still, those mid 30s are coming hard.
There's definitely plenty of good shows these days, but I do have to agree that old 80's/90's anime had a style to the animation that I genuinely believe looked a lot cooler
Now this I can actually get behind.
We’re in an era of 80s anime/Japanese pop culture aesthetics being big in the kinda hipster/queer crowd. I went to an 80s anime inspired City Pop/Future Funk rave recently and it was packed. There are sold out screenings of anime films and bars are doing 80s OVA nights near me. Everyone is reading manga, building gunpla, and watching anime in the “hip” crowd in my city. The scene is starting to shift from “cringe weeaboo” to “hip otaku” around here.
80's/90's anime had a style to the animation that I genuinely believe looked a lot cooler
Though 10s to 20s webgen animation has this rough unfiltered quality to it that makes it stand it's ground against 80s and 90s.
Giving a bunch of young anime fans drawing tablets leads to some amazing shit.
I do like that for Megalo Box they reverted to that gritty old school style. If you haven't watched it, recommend, season 2 was especially great.
In south east asia you can legally watch it on YouTube so maybe i will.
Nomad enjoyer? Based.
I’m gonna be that guy. I’ve been resisting throughout this thread, but now I gotta.
Have you watched JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure? The animation in that is truly one of the best parts about the whole show. They change the art style every season to match the manga’s art style, and the use of color is just amazing.
Rose tinted glasses plus very saturated market. I grew up with anime and manga back in the 90s and early 00s, we are living through a renaissance right now. So much good stuff has come out in recent years. These people are blinded by nostalgia or just haven't genuinely explored the medium yet.
At least in terms of art, it's definitely fallen prey to greed
Hard to spot the good ones when the first thing they push at you is a dozen generic isekais every season. Even with all the shows being made, shows with a more mature look and feel are still fairly scarce. I enjoyed Beastars, Spy x Family and Dorohedoro, but there's not a lot that is like any of them.
Yeah lol, just had someone reply to me saying the classic 'new anime bad' kinda talk. They deleted it though.
can you give me some of these good shows? cause all i see is trash.
People are making fun of you, but here is some actual advice.
Check what you are watching. Are you just watching shonen show flavor of the month #137 that is listed at the top of whatever platform you use? Maybe you've aged out and it doesn't appeal to you anymore (it happens. I just can't do shonens.)
I actually don't watch much anime anymore, but I usually find a season (release season) roundup/review and pick something that interests me. I watch the first couple eps and if it doesn't grab me, that's it. I move on. I might look up a review if it seems to have potential and move forward based on that.
There are too many things to watch. Don't waste time on stuff you don't like just because other people love it.
i used to watch a lot of anime when i was younger, but i don't think i ever watched shounen shows. i've always hated stuff like one piece and hxh.
i give each show 3 episodes to make an impression most dont make it that far tbh. i just want to watch this good anime everyone is talking about but when people list stuff i go watch and it and it sucks.
then i see stuff like these posts. the 80s/90s era has a lot of stuff that IS better than what we get today, but that's just my taste + the stuff that survived with a reputation. i just dont wanna wade through piles of crap to see actually good shows.
Have you tried reading Manga? I also got burned out on Anime and started to read some Mangas and realized that they are often way more enjoyable than their Anime adaption. More diverse and detailed art, better pacing, no fillers, uncensored gore etc..
I you want to give it a shot I can recommend Ajin, it's pretty recent. The Anime adaption is mostly bad but the Manga is one of my favorites. Be aware though that there is a dramatic tone shift after the first volume because the writer changed (for the better).
i did read manga for a bit, and sometimes ill read some when im waiting for something but it's the same type of flavor that i can't get rid of.
maybe the medium just isn't for me anymore.
Maybe. You should definitely not force yourself through the medium, if there really wasn't any show or Manga in recent times you've enjoyed.
Just take a break from it and come back if there is something that you yourself find interesting or rewatch old stuff idk
when anime is bad, it's really bad. but when it's good you get some of the coolest stuff out of it. i just wish they made more interesting stuff like they used to.
like attack on titan for instance. the best moments are some of the highest peaks in animation. but the lows are so bad i wanted to skip through it. i just wish that the consistent quality could be maintained, and that they wouldn't baby the viewer with shit like flashbacks or, exposition sentences in the middle of a conversation.
Attack on Titan is a good example. I really enjoyed the show but we're now at "Final Season Part 3" and I wished it would've just ended sooner. The most recent part had so many forced twists and revelations in it that I honestly don't care anymore.
I still enjoyed my time with it. The setting is unique, some of the early twists were really cool and the animation is often godlike. I tried to get into the Manga but didn't like its art that much and heard that the ending is supposedly bad
yea i think they're trying to rush it out the door to be done with it and finish it. it peaked at the return to shiganshina and after that i dont care that much.
but many of the ideas and forms in the show are amazing like the 3DM gear, of the titans themselves. but that's the problem with anime. it's TOO extra and it can't help itself. the best shows are often restrained and simple.
I agree.
I also mostly enjoy short and focused Anime like Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Afro Samurai, One Punch Man (S1) and such
you're a real one. be safe out there bro. i appreciate the talk.
I feel you, it's the same with music now.
i disagree on music. a lot of really good music can be found since anyone can make music in a garage. i enjoy finding new stuff that's very good, but there's also a lot of great stuff that's been passed over from previous decades.
bro I feel like you just don't like anime anymore lol, which is fine don't get me wrong. You've been given 20+ recommendations and you say all of them are thrash.
Some of these recommendations are universally praised and they're saying they all suck. Bro might just be depressed :/
most of them are. i like a few of them like steins;gate or one punch man, but most of the popular stuff isn't very good. it only looks like I hate anime cause i don't like the popular trends.
Here, i'll list a few of my old favorites. shin sekai yori, steins;gate, death note(first half), one punch man, ping pong the animation, devilman crybaby, aku no hana. just to name a few.
Steins gate is 11 years old, one punch is 7 and devilman crybaby is 4. None of them are old really, and all of them (especially steins gate and opm) are popular. So I think you do like new popular stuff.
some. but i wouldn't consider steins;gate new by any stretch. 11 years is pretty aged. but like i said i don't like most of the new stuff.
JoJo, Violet Evergarden, Attack on Titan, Steins;Gate, Re:Zero, One Punch Man, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Assassination Classroom, Made in Abyss, Your Name, Parasyte The Maxim, Hunter x Hunter 2011
Mob Psycho. Gurren Lagann. GiTS SAC. Baccano. Hellsing. Black Lagoon. Psycho Pass. Code Geass. Claymore. Vinland saga. Gundam Thunderbolt. Dorohedoro....
Shit I do love spy x family too tbh.
some of these are good but on others we're going back like 10 years. feels like a bit of a stretch almost.
Well I don't know what counts as recent to you. Compared to 90s anime, they're recent. Some are still running with new seasons and most of them started in the 2010s
that's fair, but i suppose then my preference would be shows that aren't long running. it tends to make them tropey or worse as writing that much new material constantly is really tough. thanks for suggesting buddy.
np, but I wouldn't shy away from long running series. One Piece has been airing since 1999 and is currently in one of the best story arcs. JoJo (manga but it's the same story as the anime) is from 1987 and still going with the last few parts of it being the best parts. Lots of writers write the whole story before the first chapter gets published but you're right to be at least a little sceptic. Dragon Ball is pretty much written on the spot with little planning ahead which ends up creating many plot holes as the show goes on for hundreds of episodes.
yea i dont like any of those. i've tried them before but for one reason or another they all dont suit me.
3 total gems: Demon Slayer, Attack on Titan, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
i don't like any of those, but thanks for taking the time buddy.
One punch man?
sure it's a very enjoyable parody. good fun. i don't hate all modern anime, just an overwhelming majority of it. i would say anything in the last 4-5 years is almost always a hard pass from me.
Sure thing grandma. Now let's get you to bed.
so you don't have any actual suggestions but the other guy does. is all you watch trash?
Back in the day there wasn't a ton of translations or dubs for anime so you'd only get stuff that was already essentially curated before it came to the US.
Now everything gets translated and distributed globally so everything "popular" is kinda bad and hard to sift through for good stuff. It's just like music. You can go look at the top 40 every week on Spotify or whatever and it's gonna be 99% unremarkable garbage.
Anime has factually become more homogenous than before, even a lot of anime staff members are saying as such.
It's an instant sign that someone is a dipshit with limited experience that isn't worth listening to, to me. I've started watching anime again recently and from the shows I've seen, the animation quality is absolutely fucking fantastic. Even some of the 'low tier' shows are gorgeous compared to even a decade ago.
Got any recommendations?
I mostly stopped watching 10 or so years ago. What’s some of the good stuff that’s come out in recent years?
Same thing with music lmao. r/lewronggeneration moment.
They think nowadays anime is just all pedo fanservice isekai trash because they only see the very low stream of low quality cash grabs and never bother to watch the actually good shows
They think nowadays anime is just all pedo fanservice isekai trash
They probably don't even know what an Odd Taxi is😔
Prolly never heard of a MegaloBox either. 😔
BRO I fucking love odd taxi
Those last 20 seconds cemented it as my favorite new anime of last year.
That and all the trash, and even some good SoL classics never made it across to the west because fansubbers and licensors tended to pick more edgier and violent shows to differentiate it from the normal cartoon market.
anything you can recommend to watch?
It's literally the golden age of anime, of course people are gonna say it's gone downhill.
There's good stuff nowdays, but it's the exception, not the rule.
I mean, half of the stuff is trash.
The other half is a bet
It was the same then as it is now, some genre / trope gains popularity based on a truly great example and hundreds of copy cats come along later that are usually all terrible.
The isekai of today was the mecha of that period.
Really good stuff outside of those industry meme categories exist though. Ranking of Kings, Spy x Family being two recent examples that come to mind.
Bro there’s like a million isekai. I swear I’ve never seen such a trend take off like long named isekai based off light novels getting adapted into manga and anime.
I doubt these people even follow seasonals.
You have to traverse through garbage in order to find the gold imo.
Yeah maybe unfair, but whenever I glance at /r/anime I always get serious cringe vibes.
Right now the top post is....whatever this is is. Haha boobs!
Glancing through another top post right now, Top 10 most anticipated shows of summer 2022, and it all looks like dull high school/children romance comedies with the same shitty animation style, with a couple of exceptions.
And there looks to be a very popular best girl prediction contest (???).
I dunno I think there is a strong and good reason people like me have only watched Attack on Titan and nothing else in the last decade, and otherwise feel absolutely zero draw toward anime.
I mean your first problem was expecting r/anime to have good taste lmao. Also, summer it typically the weakest season for anime, there's some great stuff coming in the fall.
If you want something with good fight scenes without cringy fanservice that I would recommend to AoT fans, watch Jujutsu Kaisen.
I know right. All I had was toonami on cartoon network and you will like your dragon ball Z reruns of the Frieza saga or get nothing!
I just watched the Entertainment District Arc of Demon Slayer recently, and my ass was clenched the entire time. After I finished it, I was just thinking about how good anime had gotten lol. Now I feel like I am wrong
Not all trash but "they don't make 'em like they're used to". How many stuff is hand drawn these days?
Most of it. Probably around 80% once you start excluding the CGI that gets used for things like background characters and SFX. Just because it is digital, it doesn't mean that frames aren't often drawn by hand, and often still on paper before being scanned and cleaned. Especially main characters and backgrounds.
Just because it isn't cel animation, it doesn't mean it isn't hand drawn. Digital drawings are still hand drawn as well.
cel animation
That's what I meant, my bad.
All good. If you didn't know - you didn't know. Lots of people don't know a lot about the nuances of animation, so you're definitely not alone in having made that mistake.
Smh @ the passive aggressiveness. Lol.
Unintentional lol. My bad.
Well it's true.
I didn't even grow up in the 90's, yet I truly despise 99% of anime made nowadays.
Nothing new, kids being reminiscent of a time they never lived because it makes them seem cooler. The internet in a nutshell.
My personal favourite era
This shit was fucking good though, too.
The golden age
You forgot to call it "Japanimation."
Nudity, but they weren't weird about it
I dunno, that forehead vagina in Evangelion felt pretty fuckin’ weird.
Everything in Evangelion is pretty fuckin' weird.
Yea, but people did die of blood loss because they saw some ass
Totally not nowadays one piece
When do you think they invented it?
I still can't watch EOE without squirming and physically cringing in some parts, forehead vagina being one of them
Wait, the Tau were in evangelion
No they absolutely were weird about it, you just haven't seen it
Absolutely super fucking weird about it lmao
Special shoutout to the Vaginazooka
Totally, OP is just another: “everything was so much better before! I should know because I actually never lived in that time it’s just what the internet told me”
but they weren't weird about it
Sometimes they weren't. Oftentimes they were. We just sorta collectively have forgotten about the weird stuff, but if you go looking in that era you'll definitely find it.
How I miss cyberpunk
From where are the demon / tentacles images from ?
Parasyte isn’t from that era, but it’s in that vein
Ha I saw that one. Liked it a lot. I really enjoy dark /horror animes.
Technically the Parasyte manga is from the 90s so it's kinda from that era, even if the anime modernized the setting.
I know one is from Demon City and the other may be from Bio Hunter.
Both are definitely unique movies to say the least, but entertaining especially if you like body horror.
100% demon city. Which funny enough I used to own on VHS until someone stole it from my friends house.
Good shit
You. Forgot. About. Their. Soundtracks.
Also, Saint Seiya.
“Fly High” from the Gunbuster OST goes so fucking hard
Berserk was my favorite 90's anime.
eva is like top 1 for me
Akira, Cowboy Bebop, Evangelion.
Yes, all the old but golds.
The headshot from middle right is one of my favorite deaths ever
The absurd level of violence mixed with amazing animation makes it disturbingly unforgettable
Google “Angel cop headshot” if you want to see the full scene
Technoman :)
Right, and he's not a mech either.
finally some tekkaman blade appreciation 🙏
some of the scenes its painfully obvious someone put hours of hard work into hand drawing each frame, to the point where i'm not even mad they repeat a lot of footage
Great show, he had laser nuke shoulder pads
Best fucking era for anime…
Nostalgia glasses hurts but I do love hand drawn cell anime artwork.
Evangelion isn't mecha, though.
It's also credited with saving anime, so I'd make it a must-watch, even though it's fucked up.
Yeah it's more like a Flesh Mecha like Aot.
This is just all the stuff that survived the ages. People should take off their rose tinted glasses and realize there was weird crappy anime back then.
Yeah I feel like I'm in the few people who thought Trigun didn't really age well.
As a Trigun fan, you're right. Also, Akira. That movie got so fucking boring for me after Kaneda met back up with Tetsuo to take down some dudes in a facility.
I was referring to the animation.
Akira aged pretty well in that regard, but Trigun? Nah.
Oh damn.
Bruh nudity is my favorite
What animes have bruh nudity?
Boku no Pico
I failed for this from a youtube comment years ago. Someone asked what was the best anime that they seen that not many knew about. Top comment with 300+ votes said Boku no Pico.
My gullible ass went straight to some site and watched it. First scene burned my eyes. Lol
It's from 2004 and not the 80s/90s but Elfin Lied, plus it has lots of gore/violence.
Asking for a friend?
🤨📸
You forgot Jazz soundtracks
Akira is my favorite movie. People find the middle boring or whatever but it's fine to me. I hope to one day own the box set of the manga honestly. I've seen it 5 times and it was that impactful to me. I listened to the music on its own after I watched it for a while. I watched tons of reviews on YouTube, the little there were at the time anyways, and I just loved it. It's so cool. Fun fact: It was being made as the manga was still being made. So the beginning of the film is based on the first bit of the managa. The middle is different than the manga (original). The ending of the manga is based on the ending of the film. Wild stuff. Though tbf, with how speechless the ending made me anyways, I think the film version is sick. Anyways, the animation is seriously incredible. I watched it in dub despite not caring which I happen to watch when I first watch something. For how many anime I've seen though, it's honestly really well done. Also also fun fact: The lip syncing being accurate in the anime style is special for the film because I think it wasn't that common back then. Toonami got me into my favorite movie and anime in general (not the same one) and honestly, both were happen chance so how cool is that. Up late: sees commercial, watches it: mind blown.
I'll edit this in a bit. I kinda just turned this into a comment about the one thing lol, but yeah.
Pause and Select on youtube had some good vids on Akira.
Also have you seen the Humans Are Such Easy Prey amv of Akira? It's wild. Maybe the best one I've ever seen.
Ooh, I haven't. I'll have to check that out.
I also noticed they really love western name like Joseph, nathan, Daniel Jefferson and whatnot.
It’s more like the “same 30 anime movies/OVAs people recommend as representing the 80s/90s when there was a whole lot of bullshit that was never translated” starter pack because anime fans were at the whims of the “IT’S NOT LIKE CARTOONS” crowd of both fansubbers and companies like Manga Entertainment.
I miss the old school anime so much. And considering modern anime and their fans, it's also why I don't tell people "I like anime".
Some notable mentions:
SF2 the animated movie
Ninja scroll
akira
ghost in the shell
Spriggan
Jin Roh: wolf brigade
Evangelion
Porco Rosso
Princess Mononoke
Perfect Blue
Grave of the fireflies
Rurouni Kenshin OVAs
Fist of the North Star
People saying those were “better days” need to look at reality and realize it’s the same for everything. Best movies? Best novels? Best music? For most people the answer will always be something older, something before they were born, the classics. And in 30, 40, 50 years time people will look back at today and say these were the better days.
survivorship bias and nostalgia comes to mind. for those who were alive to see this stuff they dont remember the shitty plots and long waits and production delays between premiers, and the younger generation isnt exposed to the shit anime of the past because it fell into obscurity along with other failed items like the laserdisc and the 80s band stryper. leaving them exposed to only top quality classic anime.
I wish more non cgi mecha was made
Mechanical animators are a rarity these days unfortunately.
Only work for sunrise(technically bandai Namco filmworks) sadly
And also Studio Trigger, specifically the ones made by Imaishi and Yoshinari.
Those was the peak times tho, now most of the animes are just cash grabs. So hard to find good ones these days
Is there a reason why 80s/90s was so gory and fucked up?
A lot of those gory animes were from OVAs, basically VHS that were sold on conventions or rented in video stores.
They probably were never supposed to be shown on broadcast television.
What is "ova" I've seen it's mentioned quite a few times in this thread
Means Original Video Animation.
Basically direct to DVD or VHS.
Oh, cool thanks.
Tons of money and anime being used as a form of release for a country full of repressed men. There’s a pretty clear path that connects Pearl Harbor to the creation of tentacle porn
Alot of it was, but there were a ton that didn't go in that direction. Pretty much any shonen, magical girl, slice-of-life, etc.
Sailor moon 🌙 is missing
Cowboy Bebop
My starter pack (a few decades ago) included Urusei Yatsura, Evangelion, Lodoss War, Escaflowne, Princess Mononoke, and the Oh My Goddess, Video Girl Ai, and first two Tenchi OVA series.
And one more very important addition to this: the Slayers!!
That's literally Eva in a nutshell.
You forgot convoluted incomplete storylines because of Evangelion
Evangelion's story is complete though.
But it's confusing as fuck and I don't wanna go through 5 different posts, 6 videos, and an old-ass thread from 2008 to understand that shit.
Then don't do that.
Like a lot of the people who watch the show don't understand it but are satisfied enough that they leave the story not wanting more.
Why would I just be satisfied watching a show just for the art tho? If it doesn't mean anything to me, what's the point?
?
I wasn't referring to the art though.
Then what?
The story duh.
Why do you think a lot of people leave the series feeling satisfied?
I dunno, because of a fusion of the art and they relate to a few of the characters in the story? What I can't understand is how people will try to defend this shit like a magnum opus of anime when you need all this shit to understand it.
Well I don't.
I just think it's a very well written story.
When it comes to the characters, plot is a bit of a mess.
Alright, well good on you for enjoying it.
“See you space cowboy”
No Ninja Scroll?
Also unnecessary and gratuitous profanity in the dubs. You can see that in this infamous scene from Cyber City Odeo ( which is awesome)
Best era of anime
This just made me remember all the 80s-90s mecha animes my dad watched with me like Patlabor, Macross, and Evangelion. They also had a lot of nudity lmao
Could've just said Eva bro
Actually drawn
My favorite old anime is Key the Metal Idol, I just adored it back then! It just screams early 90s.
My favorite anime of all time is Mob Psycho 100, this anime is just plain heart and soul. Characters feel real, they have believable personalities, the MC is someone I want to root for! It may be a newer anime, but it's an absolute gem.
Anohana is an honorable mention, also a newer anime, has nothing to do with action or ecchi, it's a story that needs to be told, and it'll rip your heart out and leave you ugly crying for hours.
I think newer anime gets a bad rep, I don't like harem or ecchi plots, the only "game world" type anime I ever liked was .Hack/SIGN and I rarely care for moe school days fluff. There's more out there than that, there's something for everyone. The art may be different, but there's still beautiful stories to hear.
I highly recommend Odd Taxi then if you want something without ecchi or harem.
It follows a taxi driver who may or may not be involved in the disappearance of a teenage girl.
That sounds incredible, thank you! Sounds like a good mystery.
It's also done by same studio that did Pokemon and Berserk.
No Robotech? That was my gateway
I see no problem
This gave me a flashback to a friend in college saying, "yo I got this fucked up anime called La Blue Girl, I heard it's crazy!"
This just describes Evangelion so I guess it's accurate
People who think, "modern anime is trash, 80s anime is best anime" are just objectively wrong.Pretty much every single aspect has improved dramatically including the artstyle, animation quality, voice acting, story, and pacing.
Anime has gotten a lot more popular, so there are a greater number of garbage pop anime, but if you look for it, it's there. I'm not surprised because everyone thinks the music/video games/TV was the golden Era from when they were kids.
The people that grew up with these anime are entering their 40s and 50s. Not the people you see very much in these threads. A lot of younger people are discovering the incredible aesthetics that older anime had back in the 80s and 90s recently. It’s not that it’s “better” more than it doesn’t look like anything being made today. The hand-drawn and colored animation has a specific vibe that hasn’t been present in recent anime with a few exceptions like Devilman Crybaby. It’s kind of like practical effects vs CGI in films. Sure, you can do waaaay more with CGI, but practical effects just have a certain aesthetic that you can’t get with CGI.
I tend to feel than nostalgia does a lot for perceived quality too. The animé I watched when I was a young teen will always be the best even if I have seen newer stuff that is objectively better, I'll still prefer what I saw then. I'm sure my kids will think demon slayer and one punch man and whatever else they've been watching recently are the best ever, even when they see a whole new (and possibly objectively better) generation of anime when they're adults.
I didn't grow up in the 90's, but I just smell bullshit.
Art-styles were more expressive and stylish with a cartoony charm that's just lost nowadays. Animation was more detailed and fluid with direction that was more experimental and more immersive. Pacing was slower but characters and worlds were much better developed as a result.
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Anime usually is for either teens or adults
80s-90s seinen /cyberpunk anime has at least one scene of nudity / sex / rape just for the sake of having it. And I love it.
Honorable 2000s mention: Elfin Lied
You're so pure. Hugs
Is it too late to add a /s or woosh?
Op and this thread have seen maybe 3 anime from the 90s and are using them to make over simplified statements. Also anime lately has been killing it. Seriously it’s like every year there’s at least 2-3 that blow my mind.
Exactly bruh.
My childhood anime was Genocyber, Guyver, Violence Jack, Angel Cop, Ninja Scroll, Mad Bull 34, Devilman, and MD Geist.
Meanwhile I see kids nowadays talk about how awesome shows like One Piece and My Hero Academia and my eyes roll back all the way back into my head.
Incest_Cannibal69
yeah ok that makes sense
That's just the name of my family owned BBQ restaurant. We've got the best baby back ribs this side of the Mississippi
I mean you can't blame anyone for not liking the same things as you do.
Plus some of those kids probably watch obscure shit like you do like; Fog Hill of the Five Elements, Kemurikusa, Kaiba, Kemonozume, Texhnolyze, Shigurui, Aku no Hana etc..
Take off the rose tinted glasses there bud, I can and will guarantee the 80's and 90's had trash cliche anime just like today
I think this list is more like the adult anime that the starter pack is getting at. Not stuff like dragon ball or Pokémon.
I’d also add some like 8 Man After, Crying Freeman, and Fist of the North Star to the list.
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To be fair, the US didn't get it until the early 2000's (2003-ish?) and even then it was a terrible butchered version that flopped.
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That's part of my point.
!(Though tbf, Early YGO! in Japanese (And not even talking about the Manga or infamous Toei adaptation) isn't actually as kiddy as non-fans think it is, it's just that 4Kids also made it that way because of profits.)!<
Hell, even Yu-Gi-Oh got butchered over here in the US. Look at the sub and it's a bit more wild than what we have over here. And the manga is even wilder.
Most elitist comment I've ever heard, holy shit.
Wow MadBull 34. I see you are a man of culture as well.
I feel like you actually haven't seen that many different anime series from the 80s and 90s.
Deadass. I like that a few dudes are calling this out.
I've never seen any dragon ball anything before so I decided to start at the very beginning with dragon ball and yikes a lot of serial harassment as a joke and I'm pretty sure Bulma is supposed to be underage
That’s pretty much only at the beginning. Once the tournament starts it’s less sexual
Sources OP?
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Tekkaman (Technoman) Blade, Gundam (not sure which one, all the early ones are cool though), Mobile Police Patlabor
Tekkaman (Technoman) Blade, Gundam (not sure which one, all the early ones are cool though), Mobile Police Patlabor
Bro i miss old style looking anime, hate this new basic shape, basic whole ass windows paint fill square colour.
Well if you're looking for a more retro aesthetic then i recommend; Kemonozume, Kaiba, Ousama Ranking, and Megalobox.
Cheers ill sus them soon, thx
Also overly boobs bouncing. A time where anime was borderline hentai.
It's still borderline hentai tbh.
The best era for just pure art. Now anime is “too” clean.
A lot of anime these days are still art though.
Like Sonny Boy, Odd Taxi, and Heike Monogatari.
I totally get that, if you make a gritty and dark anime and the art is too clean and pretty it can be weird. That's why i loved Madhouse studio, they still retained some grittiness while being cleaner and modern.
But look at the movie Reddline, not the best story/ending but god damn this movie is visually stunning. It's pure eye candy animation during the whole movie.
If you want something rough just watch some of Osamu Kobayashi and Masaaki Yuasa's work.
And maybe some shows like; Aku no Hana, Sonny Boy, Ousama Ranking, Mob Psycho, and Megalobox.
That's because a lot of it is made with 3D models and good lighting.
They only use 3D models for layouts, most of the time the actual key animation is hand drawn.
Oh you sweet summer child...
Okay then, tell me why I'm wrong.
Virgin
Vhs
Hell yeah!
One of these trailers on the tape:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLyOcru8NkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCbUMEooHhI
Wicked City was a good movie though
You just explained why 80's/90's anime always appealed to me
I don't watch anime at all but i loved it growing up. Gundam and countless other shows i don't even know the names of.
I tried some now as an adult but i can't really get into them. Maybe I haven't tried the right one to really spark my interest
First anime I bought on VHS was Wicked City from I think Hot Topic? Next was the entire DBZ box set which I think I still have somewhere. Akira and some obscure others were about all i had, I heard about more but never knew where to get them in the pre internet days. It was a much simpler time back then, is there any place online that streams some of these?
Raging bull, I could never find it. Not even sure it was the right name but I remember it being funny and ticking all of the listed boxes.
Ah, the good old days.
Dragon ball series check.
DB didn't have that much gore. And even when there was it was just limb removal. There also wasn't that much nudity besides a few shots in OG DB and Z pre-Cell saga. Not too many mechs or neo-Tokyo either.
U got a point
Yeah.
Absolutely the best era. The shots and framing were amazing as well. It inspired modern cinema for sure.
Now that's the good shit!
My favorite type of anime.
Cowboy Bebop will always hold up
What are some of the best cyberpunk/neo tokyo 80s90s animes? Except gits.
Is this not Anime now? If not, what’s the point?
Anime prime era
Indeed
Forgot to mention "occasionally hilarious voice acting"
They had the hottest parents goddamn
Was just watching 'love death and robots' on Netflix, and it checks all of these boxes lol
Reminds me so much of Voltes 5 for some reason
The best era.
Where's the girls falling over, or climbing up ladders (or vents), or sitting spread-eagle in a jet, or falling over in a car seat with the wind blowing their skirt in their face (I assume, the face wasn't in frame)?
Serial Experiments Lain as a counter. Just dont ask me to explain it
I love this era of animation so much.
Without even a speck of Space Battleship?
How??!?
Glory days
Gundam is the shit foreal.
You all nwed to see the animation work called Memories, besides Jin-Roh the wolf brigade.
These are considered the best pieces of animation to come out of Japan since.
Also the music. Lots of electric guitars riffing. Maybe even some saxophones! Bubblegum Crisis has some fun music, and they even did a few English versions.
https://youtu.be/an_0IIRDlc4
Bubblegum Crisis - Larger Than Life (English)
Also Venus Wars reminds me of this, but it is obvi on Venus
Now this is the stuff I grew up on. Battle of the Planets, Astroboy, Ninja Scroll, Akira, Robotech, Ghost in the Shell, etc...
Me and my friend would rent 1 new release and 1 Manga cartoon every Sunday until we watched everything they had in stock.
In the late 80s, we hung out in punk clubs and would often play anime on the screens along with industrial music like old Ministry and Skinny Puppy. That's kind of why the cyberpunk genre developed with anime. Throw on Akira or experimental art films like Tetsuo: The Iron Man.
https://youtu.be/0gwRG9uForA
I'm still a fan of mechs. I know nothing about modern anime and it all seems really strange to me and not really in a good way. Robotech was cool because it had awesome robot airplane mechs. I've never cared too much about the storylines, I just like the animation style. Culturally, the storylines are just too far away from me to really get into. I'm not a 13 year old Asian girl.
And for some reason, nowadays, everything blows up into smaller and smaller cubes when a colossal explosion happens… completely ruins immersion for me.
Webgen era animation do be like that
And it always slaps harder than new gen
You forgot adult that purposefully looks like a kid
No, that's mostly this era.
Shit my bad
Nah, you good.
Wheres pantsu jokes
Looking back, I have no idea how Tranzor-Z (aka Mazinger Z) made it into the after school cartoon lineup with a character like Aphrodite-A.
Also lots of shots of hard-to-animate stuff like water, smoke and explosions - all very impressively animated, especially for that decade.
IIRC, eastern animation studios where banded together for whatever reason (politics, iirc) and more or less "tasked to impress the west", show disney what they got, something like that.
And it shows. Can't say i'm a great fan of Akira's story (only know the film), but i've watched it multiple times just because it's so gloriously animated.
I remember watching Evangellion on winamp-tv 20 years ago. It was so fucked up, and I didn't understand any of it but it was still fascinating
nudity
NUDITY
Well that sounds cool as shit anyone have some recommendations?
Trigun.
What anime is the spider woman in the bottom left from? I remember watching it when I was younger, but forgot the name.
It’s a “Youjuu Toshi” I’m pretty sure.
Holy shit! This is it! Thank you kind Reddit stranger.
Wicked city or demon city i think
Bootleg. No subs or dubs. Just a synopsis from USENET.
You left out children flying ancient golden condor fighter jets to escape conquistadors.
What’s the demon anime in the bottom left? Looks pretty sick
The blue one? - Youjuu Toshi.
Appreciate it bro, gonna give it a watch tonight!
80s, 90s anime and manga are the best.
Chin for days
Everyone arguing in the comments about what show it is just shows how good the starter pack is
I remember I had Angel Cop on VHS. I probably still have it somewhere...I hope...
💀
I wanna see the sharp highlighted glossy spikey hair that all the main character have
Ah, this was the golden age of Anime. I miss it terribly.
Vhs with maybe 3 or 4 episodes of a 24 episode anime. Ah the days old.
I need to hijack a time machine.
Violence jack evil town was one of the first animes I ever watched. It had nudity and tons of gore. Good times as a 10 year old.
Aren't nudity and ultra violence/gore a thing anymore?
They're still a thing. Not too much gore, but alot of blood spraying.
Anyone care to provide a map of these pictures? I recognise a couple.
And we ate that shit up with a spoon
I agree and like all of these things. Except for tentacles
And the vibes were immaculate.
I started watching Cowboy Bebop again and it hits just right every time.
Cyber City Oedo is a great little anime.
Damn yeah kinda wanna see more art in these styles
Akira is so amazing
You just reminded me of the first nightmare I ever had. Being chased by baby tetsuo (if you have seen Akira you know what I'm talking about)
I was re-reading Classic DB and man the amount of questionable dialog and imagery is quite surprising
OG DB and most of Toriyama's work besides Z are beyond slept on.
Don't forget the women with broad shoulders
The best era in anime. Nothing current comes close for me.
PATLABOR was my First ever Anime!
Umm you forgot fighting? DBZ, Yuyu Hakusho, Sailor Moon, Flame of Recca.
And slice of life. Where's Dr. Slump?
Oh yeah, the good shit
Wich is the anime with the gore ;-; ?
Akira, Berserk '97, a bit of Evangelion, Golgo 13, etc.
We grant Tekkaman Blade a position in Super Robot Wars, but not the title of mecha.
Okay, so what are all of these?
Yes I mean the nudity and tentacles.
They forgot epileptic strobe light effects.
And "guy punching another guy, but before the impact is shown, there's a flash". And repeated frames. And "big eyes, small noses and mouths".
mecha
Man I miss zoids.
The blockbuster near me when I was a kid had only two anime titles. The first I'd rented was Akira, and it was mind blowing. The art was fantastic, the music intense and unsettling, the setting well developed, the animation leagues beyond The Real Ghostbusters cartoons I was watching at the time. I was so pumped to watch more anime and thought they'd all be that incredible. The other video thet had was Lensman. There's a man, and he had a lens I think.
Stiletto lady bottom left is from Wicked City iirc. You never forget your first vagina dentata.
I’ve never watched anime like this in my entire life but I still see scenes like that one from the picture in the middle all the time
I had some of my younger friends over recently, the "Naruto generation" if you will, and was showing them some of my old collection. It boggled their mind when I had to point out how I had to rent a series on VHS to watch it because it was too expensive to own anything, or that I actually had watched fourth gen VHS fansubs of stuff lol.
Two episodes a tape, 13 tapes for a 26 episode season, $24.95 a tape dubbed or $29.95 subbed. $389.95 was a hell of a lot to hear Megumi Hayashibara's voice lol. DVDs really were a godsend for us.
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One of my friends had a fansub of Berserk on 2 tapes. Of course the picture was all dark and grainy and the colors were weird, and I always assumed it was some cool stylistic choice. It wasn't until years later I realized that the blood wasn't supposed to be orange, it was just the effect of watching something retaped for the fifth time. I remember a couple of distros who actually made fansubs back then, but it was still like 30 bucks a tape, plus you never knew if they would actually finish a series or not.
It was a fun time. I don't really follow anime anymore, but all the stuff from the '80s to the mid 2000s still hold a special place in my heart. I tried to get those guys into Blue Seed, but it was just too 90s for them haha.
This is fucking cool man
Thanks Columbia House
What a perfect aesthetic.
The best, now is just kid stuff and people going soft
Growing in Latin America during the 90s, this is my childhood. Those were days ♥️
whats that cool spider-lady in the bottom left from?
All with this intro....... Urrgh
The good ol' Days.
Whats that one in the bottom left with the demon lady? Or the one in the middle on the right side with the ultra violence? I'm sure I've seen all these except those 2
Wicked City so good bro
that’s the shit i love right there, cyberpunk styling is the best
What’s the “cyberpunk” example on the right? Looks super cool. Is it Ghost in the Shell?
Alright, can someone recommend me a good starter anime off of this? I love this
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Tekkanan Blade <3
Watched Ninja Scroll for the first time today. Was a little rapey for my taste.
Watched Ninja Scroll for the first time today. Was a little rapey for my taste.
Meticulously hand drawn is up for debate
Half of the original Evangelion is conveniently placed shadows and cups/cans over mouths
We'll never be able to get back to those halcyon days.
When I first saw 'Fist of the NorthStar" it just fucking blew me away. I had never seen violent animation before. And boy, was it violent. It was awesome. I was completely enraptured. It was so different.
Great soundtracks usually to!
The meticulous nature of the hand drawn art is what has always lured me to anime.
You forgot yaoi with terrible proportions
The reason for all the sci-fi stuff is quite simple, Star Wars
All the good stuff
That about sums it up
Yeh boii!!
Great times
Yes
...and dragon ball
...and Lupin the Third
Giant robot
Where is dragonball?
We didn't know how good we had it.
A golden era in anime
Legend of the Overfiend...
Shout out to my favourite cyberpunk mini series Cyber City Oedo 808. Amazing original soundtrack and great characters and back story. Definitely needs another series
God I love neo Tokyo
I had a friend in High School who drew the cover art for Battle Angel for 1993
I remember going in cold to watch Wicked City. Knew jack shit about it. I learned about tentacles and vagina teeth that day.
So...Akira Starter Pack?
KMFDM's Ultra aggressively starts playing
Then there's legend of the galactic heroes
akira / ghost in the shell / ninja scroll
the holy trinity
The best era.
God a loved growing up in the 90s.
the violence in anime was fucking awesome
i remember as a kid watching MTV (thats where animes were at in germany) at night and seeing some anime teasers. my heart was racing like crazy. i dont know if i ever managed to watch any of them or if they were too brutal for me
In 2009 someone stole my box of vhs anime and I’m still sad about it despite the fact that I haven’t owned a vcr since like 2003
What people really mean when they say the good old days.
I wish we could get some shows in this aesthetic but only every once in a while
Whats that "nudity" pic from.
80s/90s anime definitely had some of the best animation
Cue nostalgia elitism
Preach.
Excuse me we also had "magical girl" anime. Sailor Moon, Cardcaptors, Slayers (though I guess that falls under "demons", rather than "magical girl").
I’m glad you included Patlabor
Ninja Scroll on VHS. Still got it
I love cyberpunk
As a new anime watcher, I watched Baki and was like shocked at how they drew the character's muscles and violence. Next level stuff. I had no idea it was a rather old anime, I thought it was new!
Well, it IS new... Kinda? There was an OVA in 1994, an anime in 2001, and a continuation to the 2001 anime made in 2018.
The Vision of Escaflowne was my favourite back in those days
I remember I got started on Guyver. I was like 9 and looking around Movie Gallery and I saw what looked to be a super cool sci-fi suit!
Que my young horror when the main character gets his life gem or whatever ripped out of his head and begins to rapidly decay and decompose so he gives the nasty monster a hug big enough to split it in half and spill acid all over himself and melts into a pile of goo. My mom was not happy when she saw the screen and I was wobbling with an upset stomach lol
My favourite type
I loved the ghost in the shell intro, it was so good.
Two 22-minute episodes on a VHS tape = $39.99 in 1994 money. I guess someone paid it.
This thread is honestly my happy place.
I can't bear modern anime knowing that this is what it came from.
I see Cyber City and I upvote. Plus nothing gets me practicing karate like a hot neo Tokyo back drop.
Bubblegum Crisis fits most of this other than the tentacles part
Don't forget that it was sold in a pink, sparkly box with only cute pictures on it. I like to think I saved a child from being traumatized when I overheard a woman asking if it would be a good birthday gift for her granddaughter, and the FYE clerk's response was "I dunno, I've never seen it."
So basically Biohunter.
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So..
You're saying nothing has changed?
You don't get the sci fi cyberpunk stuff anymore man it was such a vibe
Nice
Can someone give me some awesome gory anime recommendations?
Akira is a masterpiece no one will tell me otherwise. My favorite
Story fell off in the later half for me tbh.
You forgot small round sunglasses
I miss the 80s and 90s anime so much! New anime doesn't hit the same at all.
Some of it still looks way better than what we tend to have now. Things like Jujutsu Kaizen are very fluid and look great, but they feel a little too clean sometimes and lack the feeling the older hand drawn stuff has
Then i recommend watching modern anime with rougher artstyles.
I should watch 80s/90s anime. Any recommendations?
What are you into?
No Yuyu Hakusho and Dragonball Z?
I was born in 1984 and when I was like 11 I remember going over to my friend's house to watch a movie, I'd never heard of anime before, oh this is from Japan and it's a cartoon? Sweet, ok yeah I mean dragon ball has been on in the morning and it's pretty cool so yeah let's do this!
It was Ninja Scroll. His parents and sister were there. How he got it, I have no idea. Did he know? I don't know. It was quickly shut off when it got to "that scene"
The good times. Few anime try for the storytelling styles of the past.
What’s the top row second from the left mecha cover? That font is out of control.
I've seen them all
Otherwise known as 'the greatest anime films ever created'
Has it changed..?
Kinda?
What’s the bottom left one? That looks creepy af.
Anyone good some anime’s that r good from this timeframe? All I saw was nudity and that’s what’s driving this comment
And this is why 80s/90s anime is the absolute best.
Pretty much
God, the 80's/90's anime was perfect!
God I miss gritty anime.
There's still a few out there, don't worry.
I find a few from time to time. Netflix's Castlevania series gave me huge 90's vibes but I haven't run into much more since then.
Ah okay. Check out MegaloBox or a few of the recent Lupin the Third adaptations. Especially "The Woman Called Fujiko Mine".
Lupin the Third
I'll keep them in mind. I will say, I did not expect to see Lupin in the gritty category. XD
It's slightly gritty? But it fits more in line with shows like Detective Conan and other shows from that era, you know? The more laid back type of 80's and 90's anime that kinda feel like an animated detective/cop dramedy.
What’s the explodes head from?
Ultimate 80/90 anime watch list please?
Take me back.
Which is why, it is the best
which anime is the one with the demons and tentacles?
Peak of anime imo
The Virgin 25-50 ft. Gundam vs. The Chad 140 ft. EVA Unit
.... vs. the GigaChad 260 ft. Pacific Rim Jaeger
Fucking miss this
Looks brilliant. How do I get the full pack
Does anime not have nudity anymore?
Nah, it still exists but mostly censored. Unless you're watching Redo of Healer or sum weird slice-of-life ecchi shit, I dunno.
There's no Last Unicorn, so not valid.
Happy Kaneda day
No dragon ball? That was the og that started it all for me
Damn, the thing that started my journey was Sonic X and DBZ Kai set me further down that path.
Always incredibly boring
Is it wild that I never liked Evangelion?
The best old days. CG in anime is so lame.
Unless the CG done by Studio Orange of course
What no cat girls?!
They existed, don't worry.
Uh excuse me you forgot the underground movie ordering catalogue
Shout out to the Tekkaman Blade (Teknoman) reference. I feel like it is largely forgotten because it aired on UPN instead of Toonami but in 1995 there weren't many options for anime on TV.
The animation ngl has to be epic
Kaori!
I would add Exo Squad because it was played on regular over the air television.
actually interesting unlike today's crap
The funny thing about this is Initial D doesn’t even have any of these pieces. It’s a great Anime that didn’t even use traditional values for an “action” anime.
Based different choice.
They never really moved on from the demons
Fist of the North Star should get an honorable mention...
One of those screen shots is 3x3 Eyes. I’d forgotten ALL about that anime! I used to rent it from the local video store… and it drives me crazy I was never able to finish it!
Give me your recommendations below
What anime is that bottom right most picture from?
Man this sounds like a Good Friday night!
Ware wicked city?
Everyone here watch gungrave. Such a good anime.
Anyone got a recommendation list? These look amazing and I never really got to watch a lot of the older stuff outside of Evangelion
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That's 00s anime.
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Goes to show how little anime you watch.
I love variants of neo-cities
Batman Beyond and neo-Gotham is my favorite
Yeah how bout we bring that all back?
The best. My first introduction was Ninja Scroll
Demon City Shinjuku and Goku Midnight Eye are some good examples.
Don't forget those weird ass bangs
Yeah, one thing I don't miss tbh.
you had me at ultra gore/violence
I found a VHS of Ninja Scroll in my local Salvation Army back when I was a young teen
What’s the one on the bottom right ?
Does anyone have a list of really good 80/90s anime movies? I wanna watch with my wife 😁
You forgot laserdisc. Other than that, spot on!
Love interest/romance being wedged into the main plot is an absolute must.
Trigun >>>
No Guyver? I found a VHS of that at a friend's and we watched it repeatedly. So much blood.
Just here to show some love for Ninja Scroll.
Pre 2000s anime was god tier. and you can't prove me wrong
Nah, there were some banger 2000's shows.
Back when anime was good
For some reason,girls make pre-2000's animes their personality
Yeah, it's the easiest red flag for me fam.
Some of my favorite animes like cowboy bebop and neon Genesis are from the 90s Era. Loved those art styles
What are the name of the animes from the starter pack ?
The good ol’ days
Tenchi Muyo was a comfy anime.
The golden age frfr
Thank you your not wrong.
I love cyberpunk and neo-Tokyo theme. When you look illustrations from 70-80s Japan, you can see their glimpse of hope for the new future and their creativity for the future technology. Just pure creativity and imagination.
Ah yeah that’s the good shit.
Wait, Tekkarman Blade is a mech? I thought it was a suit/transformation a bit like Guyver.
A good Dub probably has peter cullen, voice of Optimus prime
Stereotypical street thug characters acting intimidating and then get their asses kicked. Guaranteed.
Those were in alot of shit ngl.
Samurais and mechs. Name a more iconic duo
Is that you, Urotsukidoji?
These two guys in the bottom right look as if Griffith wanted to become the Pop king in the 80s and Guts does the sickest guitar riffs
Oedo 808 was the tits.
Also the UK release OST was amazing
It’s missing the Sci-Fi channel’s logo for “Saturday Anime”
Sounds good to me
Trigun would like to disagree.
Based Trigun fan.
This is what I wanted modern anime to be. Is there any new stuff that follows these themes or spiritual success?
Sorta? MegaloBox and Space Dandy are what you might be looking for if you want that old school aesthetic somewhere in your life. There's also most of the modern Lupin the 3rd series I guess.
Bring back the classics
So you mean the absolute best Era whose brilliant light has yet to dim?
That's why it's my favorite range.
Just watched evangelion lol
Best era for anime
ultra violence/gore you say?
Bastard and Spriggan which have reboots on Netflix are some good classics if you can find them on YouTube.
Can't believe eva stuff was missed out
Not a single mention of noses not existing
Liar.
Yes
What’s the spider lady from on the bottom left
Wicked City
Double points if you watched them on showtime weird
100 fucking percent.
God i need to go back to some 90s anime
AKIRA may be this entire starter pack but it’s definitely worth the watch
Can I have all of it? Plz 🙏
MD Geist!!
Also a hint of chauvinism
I remember very vaguely an older anime, where there is this archer riding on horseback who can shoot extremely powerful arrows. In one scene, the archer is riding through a village mid raid, and he shoots a bandit and tears off both of his arms just before he was about to kill an innocent villager. I’ve tried looking for it but nothing ever comes up.
Princess Mononoke?
That is exactly it! Thank you!
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I miss the Samurai X movies
I'm not a big anime fan, but I will say I like the artstyle of 80's/90's anime compared to the newer stuff.
Ninja Scroll
Im surprised they haven’t tried to do a live action Ninja Scroll. That movie is awesome.
That naked spider chick is from “wicked city” I saw this anime way too young. Awesome over the top anime
Wicked City, Demon City Shinjuku, and others were what got me hooked. It just blew my young mind away.
Trigun changed my Soul
The violence you saw in Anime back then was so much more graphic than just about any live action movie. It took about 10 years for the rest of cinema to catch up
This explains a lot on why love all these aesthetics. It was almost subliminal.
And I love everything of it
Hell yeah I see guyver in the VHS collection, you always remember your first
Mecha rules !!
What are the 2 scenes in the bottom left from, labeled demon/tentacles?
I know the left most of those two is Wicked City. I am unsure if the other is from the same movie or another.
Talking my dad into renting me all the NC-17 rated classics like Bubblegum Crisis, Guyver, Akira, Fist of the North Star and so many others from Blockbuster back in the day…
Ninja Scroll...oof.
Simpler times.
The only anime I watched from that era was Rourouni Kenshin. Watching shounen anime now makes me a little upset, I can't imagine me watching a shounen from 80s or 90s that wouldn't leave me rolling my eyes. If anyone has any recommendations, please share them.
MegaloBox and Nomad: MegaloBox 2, Hajime no Ippo, Baki, Kengan Ashura (if you mind CGI), Ashita no Joe, Fullmetal Alchemist and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Hellsing and Hellsing Ultimate, Black Lagoon, IGPX (a little biased on that one since I watched it when it was airing reruns on Toonami), both the Blade and Wolverine animes (if you wanna see what a Marvel anime would be like), Samurai Champloo, Afro Samurai, Bleach (if you need an alright shonen from the 2000's + the final arc is coming out soon), Inuyasha, Hunter X Hunter 2011, Gintama (if you want a bit more humor in your shonen), Parasyte: The Maxim and that's all I have for now I guess?
Fullmetal Alchemist and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Inuyasha
Hunter X Hunter 2011
I watched all of these and some of Bleach.
Inuyasha is one of my favorite shows and I rated HxH and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood a 4/5.
I liked bleach well enough, but I think the show gets a boring at times. Thanks for the suggestions and I'll definitely check the rest out!
You're welcome.
Holy shit! Someone else knows Tekkaman/Teknoman? Daaaamn!
If this what you're into, check out Otaking Animation over on Youtube.
This is essentially describing the works of director Yoshiaki Kawajiri. He did Cyber City Oedo 808, Ninja Scroll, Demon City Shinjuku, and a bunch of other OVAs and movies.
And I wouldn't have it any other way
My dad was a 80’s/90s English dub va in classics like Sanctuary, project ako, Masion ikokku, the ultimate teacher, ranma 1/2 and more. These are all pretty accurate.
Blue Gender is a quintessential 90s anime, gore, sex, mecha, space etc
My favourites were anime that took place in feudal Japan. Ninja scroll & princess mononoke. Old school anime ftw
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I guess that's why they call them "Worldwide" studios
And it was so much nicer...
Sieg Zeon! You're already dead!
I miss 80s/90s anime
What about initial d?
can you tell me what anime is neo tokyo from?
Sounds about right.
Passei a apreciar fortemente os animes mais antigos depois da cadeira de animação que tive. A estética é cativante(cores, formas, movimentação e etc.) e as histórias são mais 'sérias' em comparação aos populares de hoje em dia.
I have my starter park for 90's anime movies for example Akira and Ninja scroll Bro after watching these two i was totally hooked no like...i didn't know 90's anime were this good
https://vyingvisual.com/ 🍎🍌🥑
https://t.me/+anXRijPnAk1mNTQx
The cyberpunk is definitely the best
So what has changed?
It was a better time.
Don't forget 80's SciFi Space Opera
80-20s fan service > current fan service
the old animaton aesthetic gives me nostalgia.
Forgot to add, "hand drawn"
Whats bottom right from? Im tryna get in on that
It looks like it might be from Violence Jack or Fist of North Star for the left most. It is possible it is Ghost in the Shell 1 or 2 for the right.
Thanks buddy! Always looking for something new to watch
Saving this for future reference 👀
Ah, the 80's and 90's, my dad ruined me for ever bringing me back "cartoons & comics" from his business trips.couldn't understand them couldn't watch the tapes but man oh man,I did like the pictures the naughty naughty pictures. Thanks dad!
Asking for a friend. What's the anime for the nudity pic? My friend is interested.
everything about this is just akira other then the mecha part
Ill take me mecha,you can have the others
https://youtube.com/channel/UCe_-qdoa0FOFkFWk6CD9CMA
Golden Age
It looked SO good
tbh I think all the grit started exclusively in the 90s
Still one of the most unforgettable eras for anime!!! 🇵🇭
Neon Genesis evangelion stater pack
Thats why they have more nightmare then 2000s and 10s
Don’t forget glam rock and energetic music that accompanies horrible bloodshed.
Best anime you have ever seen at 12 y.o starterpack
Ahhh ultra gore 💜
Test
When anime was about telling a story and not the number of fps
I'd argue we're getting less fps considering the industry is going through an overproduction crisis atm
And Anime are still telling stories wdym
When anime was good
There was also a lot of trash anime in the 90s. People just don't remember those. When a lot of people say 90s anime was better, they list like 5 anime and 3 movies from that entire decade. Every decade since then has had great noteworthy anime. The trash anime nowadays are just so recent, you haven't forgotten about them yet and so the average seems lower in comparison. I've seen plenty of old anime and my top 10 still mostly taken by anime from the 2000s and especially 2010s
Stfu
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Tbf 80s to 90s anime were pretty pervy as well, it's just more pervy now.
Now its 90% pervy, obnoxious over the top kawaii stupid.
Nah it's 50% isekai, 25% romcoms, 20% Shonen, and 5% originals.
Every generation of anime has a lot of generic ones that will be forgotten in the future. Fast forward to 2050 and itll probably be the same where people only remember anime like attack on titan and such.
The 90s also had their fair share of mediocre stuff
low effort af
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