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Yep, they just freeze up when frightened.

It’s trying no to die from the fear.

Yea looks like it's also pretty piloerect

Or is it just happy to see us?

I did not know that and was trying to figure out if it was real or a toy?

I thought it was a plushy at first

They are so boring, same like plushy, let the cat play with it

Animals are not purely for entertainment.

True, maybe the cat would eat it

I mean yeah, no shit.

I do the same when someone speaks to me

... They also just tend to sit still a lot.

...so I am a guinea pig after all

I think they always look like that

This is animal abuse

My husband calls Guinea pigs ā€œNature’s Twinkieā€.

This pig is definitely looking like a Twinkie to that cat.

What I've always found crazy about these "twinkies" is that they're technically a livestock animal. Their origins and current place in the household of certain areas in South America occupies the same spot as sheep, goats, pigs, and cows.

Imagine herding guinea pigs!

I would love to herd guinea pigs 😭

Same niche as Europeans farming rabbits.

Some Europeans have guinea pig farms too if the Italian ladies at my work are anything to go by. I showed them an image of my 2 guinea pigs and they were like "they're cute but we used to eat them in Italy"

So did my Italian grandfather, so when I was kid he used to refer to my beloved pet Guinea pig as dinner to wind me up.

I would like to eat one now.

They're decent. Not fun to look at being cooked tho lol

Deep in the Andes I saw people who just had them running around the house. Usually houses were quite dark so you'd mostly see them scurry around in corners. IIRC in Europe they used to keep cattle inside, I guess this isn't that different

What do they do with them? Are they a food source?

Yes they are a traditional food source in parts of South America (mostly in the Andes I believe)

It occurs to me that I don't actually know where the fuck non-domestic guinea pigs come from. Are they an American species?

Yes primarily from Andes mountains in South America. Peru, Bolivia, ecuador. You can look io recipes they call then cuy

Yes, in some parts of Peru (and other places I'm sure) they eat Cuy (guinea pig). They had some in a pen out back at the traditional hotel I stayed at, right by the kitchen, so I assume I ate some at some point.

It’s a pet

I’d eat your pets if given the chance

What dog do you use??

Good question. Probably a... uh. Well honestly, probably just a dude with a stick lol

Don’t they keep them in between their flooring and the actual floor, just spearing one when hungry? I’ve heard some villages purposely attract them like vermin as an easy, free roaming food source

Some say they are very delicious! I go out of my way to avoid eating any meat other than seafood, cow, pig, chicken, etc. We don’t have to apex every cute little beast in the world…

Dude when you said nature Twinkie I just died šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ’€

It's TWINKLE! ( that's how I read it the first time and it sounds better that way.) According to my roommate and I.

They’re all stressed:(

they're on 300 bpm right now

He is so startled

Is this one of the times "underrated comment" actually applies? Well done.

Why do people keep such unsuitable pets? Cat, dog and hamster are not meant to be together.

While true, that's a guinea pig

He'll be fine, his protector has the high ground.

Do cats have a tendency to attack guinea pigs?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1EQ0JknbXA

Dud you seriously base your knowledge on one internet video?

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Dumbass, have fun burying your hamster

You're correct about what the OP is doing being wrong but lmao at you calling them out for ignorance and then calling the animal in the video a hamster

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Pretty good lol

Lol, I think that's better than basing my knowledge on internet bandwagon like some here.

You can base your knowledge on more than those 2 things. Pretty naive to think one YouTube video is the source of all Guinea pig knowledge

Don't stress your animals. They may face some bad symptoms from it

I literally work for a Guinea pig rescue and am a piggie foster carer that has cared for dozens of Guinea pigs in the last 5 years, from pregnant moms and their babies to senior disabled Guinea pigs, so maybe you’ll take my opinion a little more seriously. This Guinea pig is absolutely terrified.

If a piggie is frightened, they have two reactions; flight or freeze. The usual reaction when they’re startled or frightened is to run away to a safe hiding spot. If that’s not an option or they’re literally too terrified to move, they will freeze on the spot. You can see it’s eyes completely wide open so you can see the whites of its eyes, and you can see it breathing extremely fast because it’s so panicked. No Guinea pig will stand still like that in the face of two loud fast moving animals unless they’re petrified with fright.

This is ridiculously irresponsible and cruel. A Guinea pig should never be left with a dog and cat like this, ever. They should always have the option to run and hide somewhere safe. A cat or dog can snap at a Guinea pig in seconds and even if they’re not badly hurt, the Guinea pig can literally die of fright or go into shock and die.

This is reckless and cruel and extremely shitty pet ownership.

Thank you, and yes, I do take your feedback more seriously than some of the more excited folks'. What you're saying makes sense and I believe you. Just FYI though, the clip is not my oc, and these are not my pets --many have assumed these are mine and attacked me for it, but I don't feel the need to spend the energy to correct every idiot on the internet, only reason I'm responding to you is that you have taken the time to write detailed note, and, for the most part, you have tried to avoid insulting me.

Okay thank you for listening to what I’m saying! I wasn’t sure if it was your clip or not but I figured that it’s important information to know regardless. Next time you’ll know and be able to call it out if you see it too!

I know my comment is harsh but honestly the amount of neglected and abused piggies we deal with just wears you down after a while and you start to lose patience. I can’t count the number of people I’ve spoken to who laughing tell me that they used to have Guinea pigs but their dog/cat got it and killed it, as if it’s a funny story and I should laugh too. It’s pretty tough rescuing animals and when you see dangerous shitty owner behaviour, it’s hard not to lose your cool sometimes!

Don't leave your guinea pig around cats, their natural instinct is to kill rodents and guinea pigs can die from shock if in stressful environments or attacked by a predator. This is animal abuse and no vet would recommend you have your guinea pig exposed to a cat or dog like this.

cats are 24/7 murder machines i mean very curious indeed and will fuck with everything i mean try to interact on different levels.

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my uncle keeps chickens and also feeds a colony of sort of pets/sort of strays? but they all coexist pretty peacefully

Cats are also individuals. They're not a hive mind. So you can have a cat that's cool with all the other animals in your house and then there are some cats that are just plain straight up assholes who like the fuck with anyone and anything.

One of the absolute biggest reasons you should never give a kitten as a gift (other than the total bullshit of heaping the responsibility of an animal on someone unexpectedly) is that the personality of the cat and the person may not mesh at all.

cats being murder machines doesn’t make them assholes lmao. hunting is in their nature.

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do you think lions are assholes? or for that matter, any predator animal? what the fuck kind of comparison is a human being mass murdering human beings to cats hunting prey?

Well, if it's in your nature, who am I to hold it against you?

Lol, that escalated quickly

My brother has 5 cats, 4 of them are sisters, and they're all completely different

They all better be indoor only.

Or else what? You'll call the police?

Nope. I worded it badly my b.

I hope they are. If not then they’re terrible cat owners lol

Do predators have a tendency to attack prey?

Yes, dogs too

My cat used to get into the thing (it's not called a cage, is it?) my guinea pig used to be in, and just lay down to sleep next to him

Hutch?

Yup, that's the one! Never ever heard of this word before, I guess there's always something to learn :D

do cats like rodents?

That dog is a terrier though, which aren't generally on the best terms with rodents either.

but dogs know a family member, cats only acknowledge anyones existence at their whim

Eh that isn't really true. I had read stories about animals and their grief but it wasn't until one of our cats was found to have had cancer and we had to say goodbye. He was only 10 and my mom's. My cat was also 10, Dad's was 11 and the dog was 12. For those 10 years, all 4 of them had been together. When we left with him and didn't come home with him, they were confused for a few days. By a week, they were looking for him non-stop. By 2 weeks, they were in full grief mode. They slept all curled up together. They ate together. If one cat got up to go use their litter box, the other cat and the dog followed and sat outside the box until he came out. When we took the dog outside, the two cats would just scream-yowl at the door until she came back in.

They were all very well bonded and the one we lost was my cat's best friend and partner in crime. He definitely grieved his buddy

"dog don't leave us, they got rid of cat #3, we need to stay together!!!"

sorry for your loss

That was basically it. The door that goes to our breezeway is the door we take to get to the garage and either open the back door of that to go to the backyard or get in the car. Thus, that was the door we left with him out of. We actually ended up showing them that when the dog went out that door, they could go sit on my mom's hope chest in her room and look out the window and they would see her go out to the yard, then come back in. They picked up on it that *Okay. She goes out this door and then I see her at the window and when she comes back by the window, ahe'll be back inside at that door " and they would jump up there to watch and wait and that helped.

Then we lost her to cancer 13 months later to the day that we had lost Napoleon.

Now it's our 2 older cats remaining who are now 14 and 15, and now a 4 year old dog and an almost 4 year old cat who were both shelter adoptions. Our older cats love the dog and bonded well with her. The cat is an asshole lol

but dogs know a family member

Nice thought but no, especially not when things hit the fan.

Dogs like terriers have been bred for generations to hunt small, fast moving things. While you may be able to train your terrrier to ignore the small, fast moving thing in your household, if something spooks the dog there's a very high chance they will revert to those instincts bred into them over generations.

And they will hunt the small, fast moving thing, and chances are it will die.

Never, ever put a prey animal and the animal that hunts it in the same room alone. They may get on brilliantly...until the day that they don't. Definitely don't EVER put them in this kind of situation where instincts are heightened. If one of those animals reacted unpredictably, /u/TheExtimate would not be able to react in time and that guinea pig would be dead. This pig stands a high chance of dying from stress anyway.

I've met way too many people distraught because their 'family' dog attacked their small animal, or caused enough stress that the animal literally died from fright. Don't risk it.

...kinda.

They're prey animals so..yes

I have an enclosure in my backyard for my guinea pigs to hang out in the summer months. I about died when I found 2 cats outside of it and one cat inside of it hunting the piggies 😭

We re-enforced the enclosure, but the cats kept coming back so we had our dogs chase them away whenever they entered the yard.

It 1000% depends on the individual cat. Some cats will see your potato and think it's food, or at least fun to mess with. Other cats realize that your potato is a family member, at least to YOU (ignorant human) and leave them alone, or are even friends with them. My cat refuses to look at my girls when I let them out to run.

Cats have a tendency to attack anything that moves. Though you can get a cat acclimated with a guinea pig. It's not like having a cat is a death sentence for the guinea pig or something.

You are a moron and shouldn’t be allowed to have pets. This is animal abuse.

Less so than dogs

Then people ask me why I’m a dog person and not a cat person

I love how the dog took the high ground and the cat just accepted his fate.

Poor guinea pig, he's just paralyzed with worry.

It's over Catakin! I have the high ground!

You underestimate my meower!

Catakin doesn't like kitty litter. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating. And it gets everywhere.

And then Catakin listened and they continued to live in peace.

Just Darth Catakin lulling the dog resistance into a false sense of security. They’ll execute order meow-mix any day now.

While the owner (assuming so) is just filming. haha how funny...

Perhaps the owner knew the animal was in no danger.

Edit: Man, I didn’t know that Guinea pigs could suffer that much distress and even die from encounters like this. My friend had a Guinea pig that was a little tank and wrestle his chihuahua, they had a pretty good bond though and I can see how that would be an isolated case

Guinea pigs are extremely susceptible to stress and do not do well when stressed out. See this poor fella paralyzed with fear, this short interaction may cause him stress most of the after noon. They often hide once they feel it's safe and don't move from their hiding spot when stressed

This is why I hate them as pets. You sneeze and they die of a heart attack.

lol can confirm. If I suddenly move after standing and admiring their cuteness they freak out which is interesting considering they should know my scent after all these years. Rustle a bag though and they’ll come running back.

Open the fridge door and listen to them yell

I sneeze and my Guinea pigs don’t react (thankfully, because I’ve got hay fever lol) but they all scramble for cover if someone coughs. Big banging noises? Meh. A single cough? IMMINENT D E A T H, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES

Who gives a shit what they think - the animal is stressed and this isn’t okay.

Can I throw you in a tigers cage just because I believe you’re not in danger? You wouldn’t know that so how would you react.

Jesus people are dumb as hell

Jesus people are dumb as hell

Yes but not necessarily the people you assume. This is most probably a new animal introduction, people who keep rescues etc. have to keep animals they receive in the same house and so those animals need to be introduced under observation to make sure you can intervene if anything goes badly, it's a phased process and this is one of the phases.

It is often stressful for the animals to have a new animal in their home (or to move to a new home with new animals) but it is a necessary step for them to be able to live there.

Yeah no!

I rescue birds and have rabbits and dogs

Introducing a predator and prey is a big no! And the shelters will got wtf?! Because it is completely against all advice and training!

This is just a bad owner.

Love how you pretend to know about this subject when muiltiple people are telling you otherwise.

Quit your bullshit lmfao

Why on earth is anyone upvoting this nonsense? No rescue or sanctuary in the world would be like, "yes, slowly introduce your guinea pig to your cat and terrier mix by allowing them to mingle in an open area." No, no, no, no, no. Phased process? No. Never, ever, in a million years is there an acceptable "phased process" for "making sure you can intervene if anything goes badly". What the fuck does that even mean? If you keep the cavie and the predators separated and under appropriate conditions, you should never need to intervene. If your dog or cat gets insane with a guinea pig in a cage, it shouldn't be in your home. If they don't, then you should still keep them separate to avoid disasters. You don't go, well hey, they didn't attack them in the cage, now let's put them on the floor together so I can make sure they won't attack them there either and if they do, well now the guinea pig is dead and now we know! What crazy logic is this?!

For the record, my family bred and raised guinea pigs for over a decade, and I also did foster work as an adult. Never in any situation should guinea pigs be housed or socialized with other species, never mind an actual predator. It's not even okay to mingle rabbits with cavies because they can fight and hurt each other.

Any rescue or sanctuary worth their salt would ask if you had cats or dogs in the home, and if yes, they would ask if there is a room or area separated from said pets. If not, then you're not a good fit for fostering or housing. If you straight said "well I plan to let the cat and dog get used to him and then I'm going to let them out on the floor together", then they'd absolutely deny you any fostering or housing of a guinea pig, rabbit, rat, or ferret altogether. It's stupidly unsafe.

This interaction in the video can kill the pig from stress alone. Notice how the guinea pig doesn't even flinch when the dog jumps on the sofa? He's frozen. They freeze when threatened. He's not comfortable or feeling protected; he's utterly terrified he's about to be eaten. I would also like to point out that the dog is not protecting the guinea pig at all; he is doing something called resource guarding. He sees the guinea pig as a food or a toy and is guarding what he perceives as his. The cat is just curious (although still a danger to the pig). The dog is an imminent threat to the guinea pig and anyone else who might try to take it from him. If OP wants to end up in a tug of war with their dog over a dead guinea pig, they should keep having these "cute" little meetings on the floor.

The hilarious ability of redditors to scream, catastrophize and cry about stuff that is perfectly normal in the real world will never cease to be very, very funny.

Here is the humane society explaining phased introduction of cats and dogs to rabbits for example:

https://www.hsnt.org/post/how-to-introduce-your-pet-rabbit-to-a-cat-or-dog

Maybe it will convince you to stop the hysterical screeching or maybe it will just make you screech at them too IDK.

I don’t think these animals need to be introduced personally.

They should be out and kept separate.

If that dog were to all of sudden attack, there is 0 chance OP would be able to intervene. Same for the cat.

Stupid on every level.

This is not how you introduce animals in any case. Is that a serious assertion?

You think that’s that is done? Then I have a bridge to sell you.

I don’t think these animals need to be introduced personally.

You would be wrong then, they can't live in the same space otherwise.

They should be out and kept separate.

If you have limitless refuge space and resources that is fine but in the real world rescues are maintained by volunteers, constantly overflow and have to rely on individuals using their homes frequently in most places.

If that dog were to all of sudden attack, there is 0 chance OP would be able to intervene. Same for the cat.

This is not how you introduce animals in any case. Is that a serious assertion?

As I said, it's phased, first they are introduced in separate cages, then with one being held in the owner/carer's arms then they can be placed together in the same room and then they can be left alone, every stage is a series of tests to see if the next is safe and yes that is how it is done and I have seen refuges do exactly that when I volunteered at one.

You think that’s that is done? Then I have a bridge to sell you.

You shouldn't this confidently assert things you clearly don't know about.

I literally work at a Guinea pig rescue and you are incorrect. All of our Guinea pigs are kept in foster care homes and we expect people to predominantly keep their cats and dogs separated and supervised when they’re together. We certainly don’t advise leaving them alone like this where you’re not directly holding the Guinea pig.

Cats and dogs can live in the same space as Guinea pigs without being introduced in this manner. You can very gently, if the piggie is comfortable, hold the pig and let the dog or cat sniff them and check them out and if that goes ok, you can keep the Guinea pigs in an enclosed cage and have the cat or dog be in the room, as long as you’re there. If all goes ok, you can maybe leave them in the house with the Guinea pigs in a securely enclosed cage (one with a lid on it).

But the fact is that Guinea pigs are prey animals and are usually far too anxious to be allowed close non separated contact with a predator like in this video, no matter how friendly the cat or dog in question. It’s cruel to have a Guinea pig in this terrified state of panic where you’re not even holding it and one swipe or snap from your other pet could severely injure or kill them. You’ll be hard pressed to find a rescue that condones that.

Yeah again no, I actually rescue animals.

When housing prey animals they are kept out of sight of predators

And tested through a fence (so fence in between dog and chickens) but never rabbits or Guinea pigs because they die of heart attacks extremely!!!! Easily

Every dog trainer advises to never keep prey and predators together.

Also cats have shit tons of bacteria on their nails and rabbits and Guinea pigs have soft skin (similar to humans but softer thus why they are used for animal testing) so one friend play swipe and you got an infected wound.

This is just irresponsible ownership

You know nothing about this topic lol!

When housing prey animals they are kept out of sight of predators

I genuinely can't help someone who is dumb enough to not know that rabbits, birds etc. often live with cats and dogs and can do so perfectly safely if the temperaments are suitable.

IDK what kind of posh rescue you have worked at but the truth is it's often necessary in most rescues which are over capacity at the best of times.

Not to say it's ideal of course but it is the reality.

Ah yes, the world where people who want to volunteer combine prey and predator animals. clearly, the best people for the job.

Phased or not - this is a bad idea and it is very risky. I guess people like you do not care about that.

I notice you did not react to the initial point I made about me throwing you in a tigers pen, even if it has smelled you through the bars for a few weeks.

There’s so many wonderful stories where that ends well huh? I can think of more than a few where it ended in the handlers death, let alone some other creature who is not even being considered here being inserted into this situation.

Ah yes, the world where people who want to volunteer combine prey and predator animals. clearly, the best people for the job.

Yes and it's common. Here is the humane society explaining it for rabbits and cats/dogs:

https://www.hsnt.org/post/how-to-introduce-your-pet-rabbit-to-a-cat-or-dog

Phased or not - this is a bad idea and it is very risky.

Properly done, it's not.

I notice you did not react to the initial point I made about me throwing you in a tigers pen

It's hilarious that you think that idiocy merits a reply but yeah sure people can work around tigers in the rare cases where they are properly socialized but tigers are wild animals unlike the domesticated animals that the sane people were talking about lol.

Could say the same about the dog or the cat attacking eachother

Absolutely couldn’t. Those both would be better matched and neither are prey animals to each other. The fact you don’t understand that says a lot

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I think you argued against yourself there but thank you yes you proved my point.

Yes but not necessarily the people you assume. This is most probably a new animal introduction, people who keep rescues etc. have to keep animals they receive in the same house

What rescue do you you work or volunteer for?

I've never come across a rescue who would foster or adopt out a guinea pig to someone who thought it 'necessary' to have a guinea pig, cat and dog in the same space.

A guinea pig in this situation could die from the sheer stress of being a prey animal stuck between two fighting predators. I'm interested to hear what your plan to intervene would be when the pig drops dead of a heart attack?

You're correct, Jesus people are dumb as hell

That is true and I do agree. I don't think the owner put the animal in any real mortal risk. I was just thinking that it's a bit horrible to make it experience fear like that just for the sake of a video.

I think it's also a bit of anthropomorphism. A hamster is a hamster, so they may not exhibit emotions in the same way as us. So I can't really empathise with a hamsters emotions, and even if I try there's no telling my interpretation is correct. Could be the thing forgets about it in a few seconds and totally recovers!

End of the day, no harm done as far as I can tell. Dude got spooked for a bit. And owner was able to record a cool video.

It's less about what it means to be stressed for a guinea pig and more about what it physiologically does to the guinea pig.

Small mammals have higher heart rates. Smaller creatures in general, really--like hummingbirds. When rodents and "fragile" animals like them get frightened, they can have a heart attack and die. Bunnies are fast and agile, but not strong at all. The rodent family makes up for being fragile by being numerous, it seems.

So, regardless of how it feels in its head, it's definitely not good for its body.

Right, one of my guinea pigs died of shock following a bunch of fireworks being set off at a neighbour’s house

Well then you'll be bummed to hear that guinea pigs can and do die from stress. Their hearts can just seize and stop from being scared.

Stress can physically hurt animals. My cat was stressed and it caused kidney/bladder stones that blocked his flow of urine and he almost died. Guinea pigs are very tiny and probably react very negatively to stress even worse than cats

The cat’s just picking his battles. He’ll fuck the dog up later when he least expects it.

Asserting dominance. Then the cat lays down and submits. The dog for sure runs that household. Pretty cool to see

Small dogs like to run shit.

Swear this sort of interaction can frighten the absolute shit out of animals it’s actually so sadistic how they’re treated man

Its over Meowakkin! I have the woof ground!

After I yelled at my dog for barking at the roomba he would hassle the cat if she went to mess with it.

Dogs will pack bond with anything.

Oh damn that’s hilarious, try and get a vid and we will see you on the front page haha

I ALSO WANT THIS VIDEO

this is incredibly dangerous and cruel for the guinea pig…don’t let predators interact with prey animals y’all, doesn’t matter if both are your pets

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i mean no disrespect but I’m just curious, was it just because it was loud barking or something?

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Our neighbours let their rabbit out in their yard unsupervised and it ended up getting into our yard where we have two dogs. When my mom and I inspected the white lump in the grass, all it really had was a wet spot around its neck. I doubt my dogs even lifted it off the ground, one mouth grab around the neck and that rabbit self destructed.

My grandma also had a rabbit that she couldn’t take care of anymore. They sent it to an animal sanctuary and a few hours later it just got too overwhelmed and keeled over.

Rabbits are fragile as hell

It must be so pitiful for a creature to exist that literally dies from worry.

I'm in this post and I don't like it.

They can die of worry/stress, getting a bath (never bathe a rabbit without vet instructions), they can break their own backs/necks by kicking and they can die in 24 hours or less if they stop eating. It's hard to be a bunny parent, they're just so fragile. It makes you wonder how their wild cousins survive outside.

Most of them don't make it for long. I think its something like one out of each litter lives long enough to reproduce successfully, averaging.

Being a bunny parent IS super stressful. So much can go wrong and you can do everything right. I wouldn't trade the little assholes for anything, though.

Pure speculation but I imagine it also has to do with the combination of their natural instincts and being extremely sheltered their entire life. When suddenly faced with a threat, their instincts kick in possibly for the first time in their entire life. It must be a tremendous shock to them, and they never got the chance to acclimatize to these instincts that trigger all sorts of brain chemistry and fear.

That may be a factor, but rabbits are just extremely high anxiety animals because they rely on speed to escape even ambush predators. They have to be wired all the time to survive.

And yet they just freeze and die instead?

Its a numbers game. Evolution doesn't care about the individual. Most likely it died because it couldn't get away and freaked.

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Im not sure Id go that far because most herding prey animals go to great lengths to not seem weak. Pet bunnies will often die overnight cause they were sick and the owner never knew. Wild bunnies would rather sacrifice the children and simply have more. Not like the children would survive long without their mother anyway.

If I had to take a guess, the bunny is pumped full of adrenaline until it can escape. When the bunny is stressed for a long time and cant escape, it ODs (for lack of a better term.) Combine that with an acceptable evolutionary overhead and pet bunnies being less exposed and Kachow.

In the case I mentioned, they couldn’t run. They were barked at and cornered in an enclosure. I suppose that might have an effect too

100% your dogs shook that rabbit to death

But first they must catch y-CHOMP!

oh wow that’s really awful, RIP to the little homie he’s in pet heaven now šŸ™ŒšŸ½

Pls tell me you made them replace the bunny

They replace themselves in -1 week (not sure why you get downvoted tho, it’s a fair request! Especially for pets)

Rabbits are nutritious for dying from heart attacks. Their heart rates are already so high. Spook them too much, which it doesn’t take much at all, and it puts too much stress on their heart.

Rabbits are nutritious I love them in a stew.

But I think you mean notorious šŸ˜‹

OMG 😱 thank you for pointing that out haha. I’m going to leave it because I think it’s funny lol.

Actually rabbit starvation is a thing specifically because they are not very nutritious.

huh, according to wikipedia symptoms include nausea and diarrhea

im so sorry that happened, that’s awful

They were farm rabbits, so their fate was death either way

As opposed to those other immortal rabbits

Real nasty piece of work, that one.

I guess I should’ve said murdered, but that’s too spicy

ah okay, would’ve been very traumatizing if a pet so that was where my brain went

Well I it was still in this instance as a child, because I never saw them actually die right in front of me. They were ā€œjust taken away by my uncleā€ in my eyes. But yes, it wasn’t my personal rabbit.

My personal rabbit was taken by an eagle tho. He would listen to his name so I would let it roam free. I got the eagle to drop it since I saw him dropping out of the sky a few meters away.But that rabbit also died of shock or maybe broken neck, there were no blood wounds. Shit happens in the mountains, and rabbits aren’t good at surviving (they are good at numbers tho)

sorry about your personal rabbit :( never had rabbits but have had random dogs harass our farm chickens before. but no one died thankfully. one straight up managed to break into the coop…neighbors need to watch their dogs lol

Shit happens in the mountains? Why would you let your rabbit roam free when there are eagles about? Rabbits should have supervised exercise in a run if they're outdoors to prevent this exact thing from happening.

He said he was a child, don’t be a jackass. Besides, he/she learned this lesson the hard way. They don’t need your self righteous lecture. Maybe try to have some compassion for a child who made a simple mistake and paid dearly for it. Jesus.

If he'd have learnt his lesson he wouldn't have said 'shit happens in the mountains'. Because that's not the reason the rabbit died. The rabbit died because the owner didn't bother to provide a suitable outdoor enclosure/run that would protect the rabbit from predators.

Although him being a child and owning a rabbit is part of the problem. There's too many ignorant adults that buy their children pets and don't bother to do their research and take accountability for the pet.

And I'll lecture all I want. I'm so sick of animals dying in completely preventable ways because of shitty adults that don't do their research.

Once my friends dad was using a circular saw doing Reno’s, and the hamster upstairs had a heart attack from it and died.

That happened to our first bunny, too. Our dog barked at her while she was in her cage in my daughter's room. Found her dead a couple of hours later. Literally died of fright.

Rabbits are especially skittish.

Yeah, this is extremely upsetting to watch, especially knowing that the human filming is choosing not to intervene on behalf of the guinea pig. Poor little guy. :(

Also, while this is lower on the priority list than the other issues, that slippery floor means that the guinea pig's ability to get away more generally is inhibited.

i see scenarios like this a lot, it sucks that the person either doesn’t care or can’t tell the guinea pig is stressed…lots of people don’t know stress signals for their pets so unless it’s ā€œobviousā€ they think everything is dandy and this is playing

and good point about the floor

Yeah and guinea pigs are the most easily spooked pets I’ve ever had, if I even just walk past their cage slightly faster than normal they immediately scatter into their hideys

My brother let his Guinea pig run around his apartment sometimes and it would play and sometimes cuddle with his cats and dog. None of the other animals ever tried to hurt it, and the pig lived almost double the average life expectancy of gpigs. Sure some cats and dogs might hurt a small prey animal, but if you know your pets well enough you can let them mingle without having to worry about them attacking each other. All that said, the pig in this video does look a bit freaked.

still very risky, but yes i agree it’s important to know your animal in this scenario. and know each species’ stress signals. and when one is expressing stress it is time to end the interaction.

but also the dog breed in the video is of specific concern as that breed is bred to hunt small rodents etc.

and just also important to note that a cat/dog can be completely friendly with a guinea pig and still accidentally cause it harm because of size, strength, and general species difference. heck, my own cat accidentally hurts our other cats just because they are like 9-10 pounds and he’s nearly 20 (he’s not fat, just a maine coon/Norwegian Forrest cat mix). think context and specific scenario/animals determines the overall risk level basically

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both the dog and cat are predators and the guinea pig is a prey animal so having them all together is dangerous. it is very hard for predators to control their instincts around prey animals, one wrong move from the guinea pig could get it attacked. i don’t know much on guinea pigs, but i know that cat saliva can be toxic to many animals such as birds, rabbits, etc. so i’d be concerned about that as well

But muh reddit likes and views!

That's a little broad isn't it? The dog is also a predator, but here you see the same guardian behavior you would if it was working on a ranch.

doesn’t make it not dangerous. dog is still distressing the guinea pig and could easily accidentally kill it. interaction between this dog and guinea pig is still incompatible and risky

Sure, it's statement: "don’t let predators interact with prey animals" that I'm taking issue with, specifically for being too broad.

i mean you can do it, but anyone with knowledge on animal behavior won’t recommend it outside of a handful of incredibly specific scenarios lol the risk of instinct overriding is too major, as well as size/strength difference. also i do not know much on guinea pigs, but i do know that with cats their saliva can be deadly for most small animals like birds, rabbits, etc…and the dog breed in this video appears to be one of the kinds bred for hunt small rodents? im not sure though

overall it feels similar to videos you see online of ā€œpetā€ big cats (lions, panthers, etc.) interacting with pet cats etc., it doesn’t always end bad but, man, is it worth that risk with such a power imbalance? while pet cats and dogs aren’t wild like big cats, they still all have innate instincts that can be triggered easily.

dog breed in this video appears to be one of the kinds bred for hunt small rodents

Lmao, yea good point. I'm not saying this video doesn't look like some seriously irresponsible behavior. But there are a lot of breeds that would sooner bite themselves than turn on an animal they understand to be in their charge.

A cat can never be trusted, but then a cat is smaller than plenty of prey animals; a donkey, for instance, has nothing to fear lol.

that’s fair. even then they can still accidentally harm the prey animal. but context and individual animal does matter, i just personally would never allow my cats and dog to interact with hamsters/rabbits/guinea pigs/etc., no matter how gentle they are. but my personal preference

i have the sweetest, gentlest, well-trained labrador service dog with no hunting instinct whatsoever (seriously, he’s afraid of chipmunks????) but i still wouldn’t allow him near a guinea pig due to his size and strength

This is a good point. I despise when people let their cats roam around while they also have some kind of parrot. It's like bro, that's just fire and ice into a blender. One of them is clearly going to get hurt and it won't be the cat.

People shouldn't even own predators and prey at the same time. If you want a cat, get a cat, but don't also then get a bird.

Not to be a downer but guinea pigs are known to freeze up and literally die from fear, and cats prey on rodents. This looks cute but isn’t funny IMO. The dog’s barking doesn’t help either. — guinea pig owner of 10 years

šŸ’€ don’t encourage this

Good dog. Little guardian. Terribly shitty human though.

Good doggo but awful human for putting the guineapig in that extremely stressful situation.

That's very sweet of that dog to be so protective and caring but like, don't put your guniea pig in a situation where the dog feels the need to protect it in the first place? Poor thing must be scared out of its mind to be frozen like that...

That guinea pig is probably freaking the FUCK out and paralyzed by fear

As far as it knows it's surrounded by 2 apex predators fighting to see who eats it

That poor Guinea pig is so terrified and stressed out. This is not the way to introduce pets to eat other.

A typo that's accurate

Cat was like, okay whatever chill dude

"What's your problem, dude?"

Idiot pet owner. Hehe let me endanger my prey animals life for views

Yeah especially a cat, and smaller dogs like this that are often bred to hunt rodents. Instinct can take over without them really meaning it.

Anecdotal obviously, but we had 3 Guinea pigs growing up and they LOVED our golden retriever. They had a pen in the backyard with some grass and a hutch they could hide in. Whenever the dog would go outside they’d all come out squeaking to greet her (same excited noise they’d make when you shook a plastic bag with veggies) and she’d lick/clean them and follow them around. In hindsight it was a bad idea, but they trusted her absolutely and she was super gentle with them.

I was expecting a really awful ending but thank god that wasn't it.

He protecc

He attac

But most importantly...

He guards guinea pig's bacc

Ugh this is so irresponsible. All three pets are stressed out and literally all of them have a chance of getting hurt during this. Fuck the owner

The cat is looking to bat him and see if he runs. He's testing if it's prey.

Your guinea pig's heart is taking a fuckimg beating here.

Cat isn't showing any prey drive here. It was just A touch like they curious touch other things

That's how they test for prey. The action itself is their prey drive at work.

Not all cats do though, some cats don't have active prey drive and several breeds are known to have very small prey drive compared to others. You don't know this specific cat

That guinea pig is real?

I thought it was a stuffed animal

It's frozen in fear. It's like one bark away from a heart attack

Guinea pigs are very susceptible to heart attacks. Crows and cats used to kill my mother's just by harassing them.

Not funny, not safe

ā€œI protec potato!ā€

Dog claiming the high ground.

Don't try it, Pawakin ! I have the high ground !

Both moral and physical.

Certainly better than it’s piece of shit owner

You're gonna get your guinea pig killed. It's terrified in the video - stress like this can kill them. Literally "die of fright".

I don't know how your cage and everything is set up, but if you can't keep it separate from the predator animals you really need to rehome it. His lifespan is gonna be way shorter than it should be. Also, do you only have the one in the video or do you have more? Guinea pigs shouldn't be kept alone, it makes them depressed. They need another guinea pig specifically, other animals just aren't the same.

That guinea pig is absolutely paralysed with fear.. This is incredibly cruel, I wish it gets taken away from this godawful owner

Horrible human, goodest doggo. I can totally see this being the only time the dog stands up to the cat, as it's doing the same "what if I only hit it slowly" thing my cat does when i tell it to stop.

That guinea pig is fucking chunky

This is straight up animal abuse, the guinea pig is terrified, the dog is stressed out and the cat is also not feeling too good about the situation.

Stop posting this garbage, these people create such content for views/money.

Its the same thing with those videos about children getting trolled by their parents. This stuff can damage these little minds.

The last look at the end.

Are cats and Guinea pigs suppose to co-exist like that?

It's really interesting how dogs are so in touch with social cues. I have two cats that sometimes fight or growl at each other. I used to break it up and separate them two but now when my dog catches them fighting she'll break them up and put herself between them without getting aggressive.

If she sees them getting annoyed with each other, she'll get up and put herself between them, and then start low growling if they continue. Every single time, they stop without any fighting. Then my dog will turn around and look at me wagging her tail like "How did I do?" then trot back to me, seemingly happy with herself. I've never seen her snap or show any aggression other than breaking up fights between the two cats (if you can call that aggression). I wonder if that says something about the importance of social bonding and familial relationships to dogs?

Anyone know what breed the dog is?

Looks like some kind of poodle mix.

It's so cute

Fuck OP - they are a piece of shit. I hope you get the same treatment you give to this Guinea pig.

Luckily some people seem to notice this.

Cat was definitely gonna slap it.

No it wasn't showing prey drive

This remake of Disney's Bolt is looking promising

Dog immediately went to high ground like a trained jedi

It's over, Anikat! I have the high ground!

I know several hundred people already called you out on this, but just to help drive the message home...

OP, if these are your pets, you done fucked up.

I'm gonna cut you some slack and assume you're a new guinea pig owner, or at the very least you're ignorant of this fact, but never, and I mean NEVER, put a cat around a guinea pig. It doesn't matter how nice/harmless the cat is, the guinea pig doesn't know that, and the stress can literally kill them on the spot. They're already anxious animals as it is.

Imagine you're chilling at a friend's house, and they open a door to let their "pet" in the room, and it's a fuckin grizzly bear. Now in that situation it won't matter how many reassurances your friend gives you that "it's friendly" and "it doesn't bite", hell it doesn't even matter if the bear IS friendly and would never bite a person in a million years, you're gonna shit your pants and be liable to have a heart attack. Right? Well that's what it's like for the guinea pig in this situation. Except much much worse because they can't understand your reassurances and have small, fast-beating hearts that are ALREADY predisposed to myocardial infarctions.

The cats like, ā€œokaaay, jeeeze.ā€

Got the same floor as every school built before 1990

omg my dog looks just like that one. what breed is it?

It's over! I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND!

The Bark Knight.

It's over catto. I have the high ground.

I have the high ground!

It's over Mr wiskers, I have the high ground.

I thought I was a stuff guinea pig because of how frozen it was. Wasn't until I read the comments I knew he was real. Poor little frozen fuzzy.

Guinea pig: what if this terrifying hell I am living. Dog: This thing is pack, I must protect. Cat: BOOP must boop, fine stupid dog, will wait until you leave so I can boop.

Downvoted because as cute as the dog and cats interaction and the dog’s protectiveness is, this is cruel to the guinea pig and shame on the owner who filmed it instead of getting the little guy outta there and saving him the stress.

This seems irresponsible

That cat wasnt showing hunting body language at all, it didn't want to eat the pig. It was gonna tap it for sensory to try and understand what it is and that dog rescourced guarded the pig. The dog didn't Care about the pig, it was guarding it to keep it for himself and harassed the curiosity cat and scared the piggy. I would keep that dog faaaaaar away from piggy......

Definitely true.

This is not food cat!

Now I'm curious to touch them too

Look at my homie, takin care of the little guy. I approve šŸ‘

ā€œIt’s over! I have the high groundā€

"Leave him alone!"

"I just wanna touch-"

"I said leave him alone! I'll fuck you up Dave!"

"Jesus Frank ok! ^Gonna ^touch ^him ^later ^tho..."

idk why I thought that the stuffed guinea pig is a rabbit with the first sight. looks so scared tho. super hero dog and annoying cat as usual (not a cat nor dog person I scare from dog and cats are extremely annoying).

Poor kitty who just wanted to pet the pig.

Doggo: "It's over Catto. I have the high ground!"

That dog need to chill

So yes this is terrible and that guinea pig is scared, but I will say that in some very specific circumstances, the individual disposition of both a predator and prey animal can cause them to be able to coexist. A family friend of mine had a large rabbit and an elderly housecat. The rabbit showed very comfortable behavior around the car, such as laying on its side, etc. The cat would actually put itself between the rabbit and amy humans it hasn't met before to protect it, and the two got along very well. That is NOT me saying that this behavior in this video is okay, just a wholesome little story where two individual animals that should dislike each other were able to get along.

Good dog!

Cat: I’m gonna slap this losers ass-

Dog: FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCK-

Cat: Jesus- Language- And it’s just a love tap-

Dog: I’LL RIP YOUR THROAT OUT

Cat: …Well there goes MY fun…

Guinea pig: WHY DO THE LARGE THINGS KEEP SURROUNDING ME-

Well taught!

So it seems the Guinea pig body language must be similar to dogs since the dog clearly interpreted it correctly.

Your guinea pig is obese

Good dog

Sweet doggo . Protective big brother

Awwww lil peace keeper!

Awww little protector 🄰

fam.. I hav no idea... thank you for keeping that cat from punching that guinea pig in the back

I'd be terrified of a cat near a guinea pig. Dogs are a little different. One of my dogs bathes the guinea pigs (guinea pigs move around and stuff while it happens and seem not to mind), the other is kind of indifferent, and the youngest one thinks they're toys (and now I've limited the dogs' interaction with them bc of this).

Dog: it's over Cat. I have the high ground

Awwwww good dog protecting the little fellar!!

"it's over Catakin, I have the high ground"

"It's over Cattykins, i have the high ground"

That is lovely! My dog is like that - she is so protective of the cat. Whenever any other dog gets too close the cat, my dog will be there to see them off and make sure that they leave her alone.

That dog thinks he is the mom/dad! Guinea pigs aren’t very active. I had 4 as a kid and they pretty much sat in my lap and munched grass. But they are sweet creatures.

The cat still trying to slowly touch it after being stopped and the dog still threatening it is great.

Cat is like ā€œmy attention span is longer I’ll get this done.ā€ Sits.

u/savevideo

Dogs are the best.

The guinea-pig must be thinking how nice it is to have a big brother to protect me! Ha, ha, ha

TOLD!

Triple species interaction! God I love this sub. Great post OP.

This is just the cutest

Not really, please look into this more and don’t encourage it

What I meant was, the dog was protecting him. I Do not encourage abuse

Okkkkaaayyyy lol

the sofa jump was a power move

My cat never even noticed my guinea pigs, she’d just sit next to their pen and occasionally jump when they nibbled on her tail

He has the high ground

I love the visible confusion on the cat.

My guy got the high ground, classic.

The cat is like ā€œrelax, it’s a GI Jane joke.ā€

Poor peeg :(

That dog is more of a cat than that cat is. Role reversal

OKAYYYY......I won't...geeez.

That cat can just beat the shit out of that dog, so take it easy, doggy

In my experience of owning cats and dogs throughout my life, I'd say cats are more aware of risk assessment. Like, the cat could probably take the dog, but the reward for doing so isn't worth it since kitty doesn't actually need to eat the guinea pig to survive. Small cats are both predator and prey, while dogs are straight predators, so a cat will generally be less confrontational and more cautious.

Yes, good answer here

Ok. What if I put my hand 1mm from him? Technically I'm not touching him.

I am dog so I must protecc

Just don’t touch him bro !!

LOL

aww

The only thing keeping that dog alive is his self control

Don’t do it. I have the high ground.

So many emotions in this one clip.

A friend in need....

Cats like ā€œwould you chill out? Gawd!ā€

Don't do it Anakin, I have the higher ground!

ā€œI jus… jus… I… Okay, okay. I’m sorry.ā€ -the cat

🐭: I was so scared

Poor pig :(

The power of the high ground.

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Sorry Tony, but he is my friend...

So was I...

I'm more concerned as to why the floor is tiled.

Let me lay down some ground rules.

Unfortunately I had to retract my upvote because of the danger of the situation but I must say, that is one chunky pig. Or is it pregnant?

What a shitty owner

Holy crap that Guinea pig stayed so completely still I thought it was a stuffed animal before checking the comments

"But I want to pat the potato..."

"Don't you do it!!"

I have the higher ground now, Catakin.

My dog looks EXACTLY like this one, and he’s also the mayor of the house/dog park/neighborhood

It's over! I have the high ground!

That cat really wanted to boop that guinea pig, but the dog was not havin it ha ha

"When you speak of this Guinea Pig to others be sure to tell them this. IT. IS. DEFENDED!"

Guıne pig is like WTF İs going on guys

/r/TouchThaFishy

Good doggie!

Okay, but really the only thing I can pay attention to here is the asbestos tile 😬

Proof that even that cat is smarter than Anakin.

Good doggle

Op, fuck you

Well thank you, kind stranger.

It’s over Anakin

Its over, I got the high grounds!

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It's over, Catakin, I have the high ground!

Peacemaker ftw. Such honor!

Don’t do it Anakin I have the Highground

What a brave sweet doggo

It’s best to tame a cat with rodents and birds around as a kitten. You’re welcome.

Poor potato

He protec, he attack, but most of all he has his Guineas back.

this cat is more intelligent than anakin skywalker.

Lololoolol

OMg. I need more of these three in my life

I don't believe it can get any tutor than that I love this video

Aside from that,why is the ginney pig so CHUNKY

I have the high ground!

Epic. I love when cats finally get put in their place. Because they can be jerks.

I love how three different same sized animals all get along

No don't touches my pig