How are your cables routed?
Not OP, but the Frame comes with a brain that all the cables plug into. My guess is the brain is in the cabinet, then you’d only have to run one main cable behind the wall and into the cabinet.
Yep, exactly this.
Cool! Looks super clean!
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These prices seem crazy - I’ve linked in another comment where I got them for much less on Etsy.
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Damn, I wish all TVs were 1 cable.
I mean you can do power right behind the TV and a single HDMI to a good reciever and it's basically 1 cable.
Like an HDMI switcher?
Nah, google HDMI wall plate. I don't know if links are allowed otherwise I would link an example. Just make sure it's not some garbage lowest price amazon one that'll cause bottlenecks.
They used to be
Most won't have a built-in system like the Frame TV, but you could easily do this with a hub and power strip. Velcro is a good option if you have a mount, if not you can put it on the TV but they get hot so it only lasts so long.
Also if you don't want to go through your wall, you can use a narrow piece of PVC to route the cable(s) down and paint over it.
OP, can you please explain more. I was under impression the cable could not be run behind a wall - it wasn't designed that way (and the pre-2021 version could be). I was reading that last night on other REDDIT posts and Amazon reviews. And the Samsung itme listing on their website shows this as well.. only if you scroll a bit down. It caused me to get very upset at Samsung at a bait-and-switch technique (Samsung) to where I cancelled my order last night!
But here you have the clean look!
So it’s not rated for in-wall installation as you’ll have read. The company that fitted mine encased it in square piece of trunking before putting it in the wall and they’ve had several years of experience in installing Frame TVs, so I was confident that they knew what they were doing.
Thanks. I'm still not understanding what I read to be honest.. "its not rated" but still can go into a wall. I guess I don't appreciate what it means to be 'rated' or 'not rated', and why Samsung wouldn't have had it 'rated' to be in wall (what stopped them?).
Did your company put the wire behind the wall, or the black box as well? I was going to order mine from Samsung with installation, and I wonder if its up to the installer whether to put it behind the wall or not?
I'm an AV installer, and the main things that make this cable not in-wall rated are the jacketing (not fire-rated as others have said), and the fact that it carries power to the TV panel. Detachable power cables are not allowed to be run in-wall, as they are also considered a fire hazard regardless of the jacket material.
Samsung sells an in-wall rated version of this cable which is overall much thicker and more robust, and which has a section of the cable specifically intended for the in-wall portion of the run. This has a thicker jacket still, and has plates which clamp around the jacket's collar and are then secured to the wall externally, similar to the plate around a power outlet or brush plate which other cables could be pulled through.
We hate installing these TVs because a lot of the design choices work directly on opposition to the desired end effect. If you want your Frame TV to look like it does in the advertisements, you will need to buy special order accessories on top of the already high TV cost, and most people will also need to have the unit professionally installed. We often have to build strongboxes into the wall behind the TV to house the OneConnect and sources, which defeats the purpose of the OneConnect in the first place. Older models had a power cable each for both the TV and the OneConnect, and a OneConnect cable which could be run in-wall. All you need at that point is a recessed power outlet and everything's groovy.
I guess somebody decided it was easier to engineer with one power source, or cheaper to manufacture, or that more money could be made by selling them in the current configuration.
Samsung sells an in-wall rated version of this cable
If I understand you correctly... if one is OK keeping the black box out-of-the-wall, one can run a cable through the wall (you just have to buy the fire-rated cable, and not use the one they give you with the TV)?
Yep, that's correct
Yes, that is exactly what he said.
I vaguely remember read it somewhere that the thicker cable Samsung sells prevents the frameTV to attach to the wall perfectly without gap due to that cable been too thick, if you are going that route please make sure that cable is the real solution
Samsung customer service is not a help. 3 advisors told me the cable can run through a wall, and then the 4th spent more time and said it would not run through a wall. I asked about a replacement cable and they sent me to Parts & Service, who didn't really know. Samsung's installation partner is Handy, and there is no one there 'centralized' to answer how they install the Samsung Frame.
I.E., it seems that Samsung themselves have no "real" solution. I may just buy the TV and if they cannot install it with the cable in the wall, return it. Need to understand that return shipping policy...
I mean, how feasible is it to just put a frame around a nice flat screen?
It can be done, with a custom frame and a little bit of hardware. The Frame TV has built in gallery features and the QLED screen is less prone to burn in, so that aspect of it is different from normal TVs. It also comes with a flush mount which has the TV sit extremely close to the wall, like a normal picture frame would.
Ahhh that makes sense about the gallery features.
This is probably not a post that'll ever effect me (unless I one day decide to go for one of these Frame TVs) -- but just wanted to pop in and say this is a super helpful reply, thanks for sharing your expertise on the subject! Big ups 👍
Some of the information is good to apply to regular TV mountings as well! I go to jobsites all the time where the previous solution was to run an extension cord through the wall to the TV. While convenient and unlikely to cause problems, this is a fire code violation and could get someone in trouble. The best solution is to have an actual power outlet installed behind your TV and only fish your signal cables through the wall, making sure to use in-wall rated cables (braided jacket cables are typically a no-go).
Second best solution is to install what's called an in-wall power kit, which uses the same type of wire as is used to wire your power outlets, and has screw-down connectors at the junctions so you don't have to have actual electrical knowledge. These require a power cord to be run externally from a power outlet down low to the inlet of the power kit, which can be ugly. They often have opening to route your signal cables through as well, meaning you have to cut fewer holes, but those holes will be larger and sometimes look awkward compared to your other wall plates
As I understand it, and I’m REALLY no expert, not rated effectively means they don’t guarantee that it’s ok to put in the wall, nor do they say it definitely can’t go in the wall. It’s a “at your own risk” sort of thing.
They sell an alternative cable that IS rated for that purpose, but that’s extra money. Bit unethical, I suppose. Very much a personal choice, but I felt that with the installer’s track record and the casing/trunking they put around the cable before they put it in the wall, it would likely be fine.
The control box and everything else that goes into in sits inside the TV unit.
"At your own risk" is the key here. Even with a run of conduit between TV and cabinet, that cable carries power and is considered detachable, so it's against fire code and could cause issues for you or your AV company with insurance claims if you ever do have the misfortune of a house fire. At least, that's how it is around here, but I'm in the US.
That said, the OneConnect cable in your wall is incredibly unlikely to cause any issues on its own. Just food for thought!
You can absolutely run the cable through a wall, but there are some caveats: The cable isn't fire rated, and it's fiber based, so there's a maximum angle that it can bend. If you can work around that, you should be fine.
Thanks
1) What does "not fire rated" mean. Does that mean it is a fire hazard? 2) The angle is only an issue if you have something in the way in the wall, I take it?
Thanks!
Can you just run the cable naked in the wall? I mean it is rated safe to run in wall or do you need to tuck it in some kind of specific tube? Thanks
Did you get a cable rated for in wall use? I can't seem to find one - and I hate to run a cable through the wall and risk voiding my home insurance.
Neat! Thank you for answering!
The Frame TV has a single cable which runs to something called the “OneConnect Box”, into which all of the other cables (e.g. HDMI, aerial, power) go. Only having one cable from the TV helps achieve the flush-finish wall mount.
The cable from the TV is in a channel in the wall which comes out behind the TV unit. Inside the TV unit is everything else (cables, games consoles, OneConnect Box, etc).
Used a fantastic company in the UK aptly named Mount My TV who set everything up.
This seems so superior. I am redoing my living room and considering a 75" wall mount but can't fit a cabinet beneath it. This may be a pretty good solution for running everything.
Still struggling figuring how to cleanly mount the soundbar, though.
*Hmm... I was all hyped about this one cable thing but the 75" frame TV is $2800 so... maybe not.
You can buy a $20 in wall kit and save $400 on the tv.
Not sure what you mean, tell me more. Am trying to avoid cutting holes in my newly painted walls.
It’s a kit that comes with a hole saw. So you just find a gap in the studs, drill the hole at top and bottom using a paper template, then thread a flexible plastic tube that comes in the kit through the hole. Then attach two plastic pieces that come in the kit to the top and bottom. The kit will come with a wall rated plug /extension cord so you’ll have an outlet at the top and the cord will plug into the home’s outlet at the bottom. You can then run your hdmi or coax or other cables through the tube from bottom to top and plug them in behind the tv. Whole thing is hidden and super easy. Only thing you need that doesn’t come in the kit is an electric drill and a stud finder.
Ah. That's the issue. The plug is several studs over from the TV and I don't have a cabinet to hide it behind so that won't really work for my setup. Wouldn't really gain anything from cutting holes in the wall.
The single cable system like the frame uses would be beneficial as I have a small cabinet off to the side and running one cable through a cable hide is easier and I don't have to undo it if I want to add/remove peripheral cables.
Still would need to hire the “mounting company” and they would just drill holes through the studs below and run the cables through there.
You can also just buy a cable hiding kit (it’s a piece of PVC plastic that sticks to the wall) and run your cables through that. You then just paint the plastic the same as wall.
You can also just buy a cable hiding kit (it’s a piece of PVC plastic that sticks to the wall) and run your cables through that. You then just paint the plastic the same as wall.
This is what I'm planning on, but something like Samsung's system makes it less likely to have to take it on and off a lot to change cables. Plus can use a smaller channel if there's only one cord to hide.
It's really the soundbar that I'm trying to figure out at this point.
I did that with my 75" Sony. I have a 1928 Spanish with original lath and plaster walls. Unless I wanted to destroy my plaster wall, I couldn't run cables through a channel. I had to use the flat surface mount channel kit to route all of the hdmi, usb, power cord to the UPS, router, fiber modem, power strip, surround sound, DVR. Once painted to match the wall, it blends in enough to look fine.
Most of the higher end Samsung TVs have had OneConnect for a number of years now, not just the Frame. That said, OP had to run a channel in the wall for cables anyways, so it really makes it not make a big difference how many cables you have in there.
Yes, OP did, but in my situation having the HDMI ports and whatnot separate from the TV would be very helpful.
I'll look and see about the OneConnect, I was looking at Samsung TVs and didn't see that, but I may have just missed it not knowing what it meant.
Just get an OLED and hire someone to install it and run cables for you. Better yet, just run power directly behind the TV and some high quality HDMI passthroughs to another area. That's the best long term setup.
What's a frame TV? Can you still watch Netflix and play games on it?
Yes. It’s a normal TV in every regard. It’s hook/gimmick is that it can look like a painting and certain features like the changeable bezels, the one cable and the wall mounting kit are designed with that in mind.
Oh, neat. Does it not have the problems with image burning? Is the quality of shows/movies taking a hit because of that new functionality?
It’s QLED so burn in isn’t an issue, plus it has a motion sensor and turns off completely after a set period of non-detection.
The display, to me at least, is very very good. But it’s not best in class so if you’re really into your visual fidelity, there are probably other panels that are a better fit in that regard.
Thank you i really appreciate your answers!
how bright is the backlight when it’s in picture mode? i like the idea of this but i feel like a “painting” that gives off light is kinda weird. i feel like the ideal implementation would be a combo OLED + color e-ink display. that kind of display tech is probably a long way off tho.
still better than a giant black mirror i guess.
You can adjust the brightness for art mode, which is independent of your general brightness settings. It also has a light sensor so the brightness of the screen will adjust according to the light in the room (tested it with a dimmer switch).
That said, it’s not nearly as good as something like e-ink, and it does tend to be more convincing in natural daylight than artificial light.
What kind of connection is that one cable? Thunderbolt?
Someone else said it’s fiber based. Likely a proprietary protocol.
I know this post is super old, but I was wondering - do you have to use the OneConnect box? Could you replace it with an appleTV and just send the power cable straight from the outlet to the display? I've got so many electronics boxes I'm not eager to add another.
I’m not 100% on this, but I’m fairly sure it is needed. As I understand it, it’s functionally the brains of the TV.
You can easily do it yourself you just need a Drywall Mounting Wall Plate Bracket and a cable access brush plate for behind the TV and behind the entertainment center. Use a stud finder to make sure you're running between studs.
Edit: This is for the samsung frame's one cable or for hdmi cables for other TVs, you're not supposed to run regular power cables through the wall. They do sell insulated ones that are supposedly safe, but I added a recessed outlet behind the TV for power.
You can run anything in a wall, just run some smurf tubing for it
It looks great! Also, I love the wall paint. I think I might need it.
Thanks. The colour is Midnight Teal from the Dulux Heritage range.
What a guy! Thanks, pal!
Beautiful choice!
Second that comment. LOVE this paint color.
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Both were purchased from Etsy. Links here:
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1108737602/
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1124390659/
I also have a frame TV and didn’t even think about buying art. I knew I didn’t want to subscribe but I’m totally down with buying. I might jack your style, as I love both your choices. Hopefully non my friends subscribe to this sub.
The subscription is really underwhelming. Not many choices at all.
You have to pay for TV wallpapers??????
No, you don’t have to - you can add whatever images you want, free or paid.
Do you have a link to your TV stand table? Looks awesome
https://www.swooneditions.com/banner-media-unit-mid-century-style-sandblasted-grey
I don’t get it. You have to purchase “art” for a TV?
No, you don’t have to, you can choose to. Or you can upload whatever content you own, or you can use some of the art that comes with the TV.
No quotation marks needed. Digital art is still art.
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Trying to be helpful by sharing info. Is that not largely the point of this sub?
Besides, you might want to check your own post history.
damn you kinda gottem on this lol
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So when someone says “what’s that paint colour?” or “where did you get that art from?”, I should respond with “It’s a secret, not telling”?
I’ve worked hard to get this setup; so what if I want to show it off in a sub where the whole point is to show stuff off? So what if people like some of the details and want to know what they are/where they’re from? Why be so sour?
Yeah hey you might be right honestly. But also you got me checking out new brands of whiskey now! Lol the internet is one big ad these days.
Dude is a Sazerac fanboy, you can do better than his recommendations.
Lol!! Feel free to send me in the right direction
Did you forget what sub you were in?
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Are you wearing a tin hat right now?
Damn I did not know Etsy had downloads for the Frame! That's pretty sweet.
That’s cool that you’re buying on Etsy!! Support artists and all
Hey mate, I just stumbled across this old post. I really like both of these images but the listings have expired. Do you have any details on the artists/image names to help me search for updated listings?
+1 as I am interested as well!
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Looks great! I love the TV stand/sideboard as well. Can I ask what it is and where you got it?
Sure thing. It’s from a company called Swoon (UK based) and the unit is from their ‘Banner’ range.
That looks tidy, my current setup is messy. I aim for it to look like this. Didn't realize some tv's came with the option of single cable, makes way more sense. Always wondered whether any manufacturers would do that.
Surprised not many on here have Frame TVs. Yours is the first I've seen. Definitely a very stylish TV.
It's a poor value as far as TVs go (mid-tier QLED panel for the price of an OLED, reliability issues and low feature set), but the aesthetics are certainly very good.
Nah they’re rad and worth every penny. It prevents that wretched ‘black mirror’ effect that takes over a room.
The LG C1 has an art mode too where you can also set it to a slideshow of art pieces. And it's an OLED for the same price. The image quality is not even close. It's hard to see the value proposition, other than that flush look against the wall with the frame. To me that's not worth the $1000 or so that it costs when compared to other similar TVs in terms of specs.
Is burn-in no longer a risk with OLED? I have an LG C series (can't remember the model number, bought it a couple years ago) and I remember reading about that when researching it.
Burn-in is still a problem for OLEDs.
With a frequently switching art mode you likely won't have ghost images, but you will lose brightness over time.
It is, but art mode sets the screen at a lower brightness and changes the image every few seconds. I still wouldn't use it 24/7 though.
If you want to have art mode all the time then yeah the frame TV is better, but for pretty much anything else the LG C1 is better.
If you value aesthetics over performance then sure. But objectively as a TV it sucks for the money. Just depends what your priority is.
Again though, if your primary concern is getting the best TV display for your money, these are overpriced. Cool as hell and look much better than a TV that is off, but overpriced, and if you want to make use of the art mode it is going to draw quite a bit more power than a TV that is off.
Man I couldn’t watch The Mandalorian because of how trash the active dimming is on the frame… Game mode is okay for gaming but yes, I wish I would have waited until the next year to buy the vesa-mount art/tripod stand and a G1.
I have a 65". I opted for aesthetics over pure performance but am very happy with it.
Any OLED television is just much better than the Frame. I considered it seriously when it came out (and was working at a place that would've given me about 50% off MSRP, so it was a compelling proposition). In the end, it looks great as a picture frame. As a TV, it's just not that great.
Very impressive.
Now let's see Paul Allen's Samsung Frame TV
Look at that subtle off-white coloring
They call it "bone"...
The tasteful thickness of it
Tv ergos say to put the Tv lower (at eye level when sitting) and most people hang there art up (eye level when standing). Ever feel like your “art” is hanging too low? I’m about to move and I’m seriously considering this TV. Just want your thoughts on it.
I’m VERY conscious of “TV too high”, so that was massively on my mind when it was being fitted. Personally, I’m very happy with its height, both as a TV and a painting; it definitely helps that it’s a large screen (75”) so it feels pretty cinematic.
How high is the bottom of the TV from the floor? I am going to go 75 and was thinking of getting the bottom about 35 inches or so from the floor. I’ve been playing around with tape
Mine is a touch over 25 inches from the floor. Arguably if it went a bit higher it would do better as a ‘painting’, but where it is very comfortable for watching TV for me, personally.
25 inches is the length of 2.87 Zulay Premium Quality Metal Lemon Squeezers.
35 inches is 88.9 cm
I had my frame at tv level for a year. Slowly realized it looked off for a painting and taised it up. Looks much better now, with a new piece of furniture under it. I feel it looks much less like a tv stand and more like a side table with art above it. Will be adding more paintings on the wall.
Excuse the mess, I'm renovating.
Where’s the table from?? It’s so pretty
It's from a Finnish company so won't be much use for you I think :D
/r/ArtTooLow soon?
Eh..I wouldn't say it's too high considering it's 75"
I've seen people make the wall a gallery wall with lots of framed art on it. Some smaller art hanging above it and around it looks pretty awesome.
The specs on these are kinda lacking for the price.
Honestly, I don’t think I’d have bought it at full price. My employer has a site with various deals and discounts so it ended up being £600 less than RRP (£1,400 down from £2,000) which seemed a fair price to me.
You got it at a great price. I think it looks beautiful in your space.
Yeah, its honestly a shitty TV for what you pay for. Image quality is not the priority with this sort of purchase though.
Edit: Here is a quick post on why the Frame is a bad choice for the money, if budget is a concern. 3k for a 75 inch that performs like the Q70A, a 2k TV. This is a big jump in price for looks alone.
Function over form when it comes to tech imo. Ideally both if one has the money for it. As it stands, these are not worth the money yet.
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They're an excellent second TV. I use 43" Frame in my living room next to the main TV. I use it for my security cameras and sports when were watching a movie or whatever.
I love the look of the frame. I just wish it had some of the better panel tech that comes with the QN90A. It looks absolutely gorgeous in your room.
Thanks. I know it’s not best in class tech-wise but the TV picture is still pretty amazing to my non-expert eyes and the difference to the 9 year old TV it’s replaced has genuinely shocked me in a good way.
I mean if you’re happy with the TV that’s all that really matters. Plus it really ties your space together. I think the set looks great
Wow that looks awesome. like something straight out of a magazine
Looks awesome! I also wanted to get one for some time but haven’t bought one so far. Is yours 65” or 55”?
Actually went for 75”. It’s big but the size, proportions and layout of the room suit it.
Looks like a render
Second photo looks like a rendering. Beautiful
Looks great. I really love the design approach of this product but I wish the specs backed it up a bit. Edge-lit TV at this price range is kind of insane to me especially since so many contents are being mastered for HDR nowadays. But I suppose that's to be expected from a "lifestyle" product...can't have best of both worlds.
I'm hoping art series from LG's OLED lineup next year will come in reasonable price (and maybe price drop hard). Offers similar interior design conscious design as Frame (but in a different way) while having top of the line specs.
Yeah honestly the frame’s price point doesn’t make a lot of sense. A 55” frame cost roughly $1300 and the QN90A is roughly $1500. The QN90A has better local dimming, a better contrast ratio and better response times in gaming mode. The frame has more storage and the one connect box. If they put better local dimming on the Frame it would be a no brainer but for home theatre/ TV enthusiasts it’s not an excellent TV to buy.
However, as I said in a previous post. If the OP is happy with his TV that’s all that really matters.
What's the power consumption on something like this? I was raised to not leave incandescent bulbs on when I leave a room.
It has a motion sensor and turns itself off after a set period of time when no one is in the room. Currently set mine at 5 mins.
How fast does it turn on, then, when you reenter the room? Is this distracting?
About 3 seconds. Doesn’t bother me and I’d rather that than have the TV be “on” constantly when no one’s around.
Mmmm r/TVjustright
I love the console, id on it?
It’s the ‘Banner’ from a company called Swoon.
I own a frame as well. Great purchase. Happy for you :)
Nice!
If you don't mind the look, bringing your soundbar to the front of the cabinet will eliminate sound reflections and give you more clear dialogue.
OP, Where did u get that tree skirt thingy :( please reply I want one lol. Also would it be too extract to also have a traditional tree skirt under it?
Are you UK based? It was from a bricks and mortar store in the UK.
oof, in the states.
Easily remedied! Just move to jolly old England!
Man, I had my eyes on one of those for my new place and now I don't think I can get any other TV! Can you change the screensaver photo to whatever you like or does it have its own set of images?
I’ve no regrets choosing the Frame. I love it. The regular TV picture, whilst not 8K or OLED, is still pretty exceptional to my eyes.
Art wise you can do lots of things, including:
You can choose to display a single art piece or you can configure a slideshow which can cycle as frequently as every 3 minutes, through to daily.
Awesome! I'll definitely be uploading images of my favorite paintings through that app. Thanks for the detailed answer!
You’re welcome. Etsy is a good and relatively inexpensive source for buying images too - the two pieces in my photos are both from there.
ha i'd never have thought of that
That looks amazing!
that is so beautiful, thanks for sharing
I got a Frame as well! I absolutely love it. I wish I could wall mount it though, I'm renting so that's a bit of a no-go, unfortunately.
Just fix the walls before you leave.
I'm renting and mounted mine. Patching and painting the drywall is easy - it's just four screw holes on each side of the TV. Quick job.
If you are going to stay there for a few years go for it. I got so much shit mounted it's gotten out of control
The One Box seems like an ideal solution. My LG C1 is on a lot but I'm not sure I'd want to keep it on just for images. Looks good though.
It looks fantastic…but, is the inner frame with the big bezels permanent or when watching tv only the thin outside frame remains? could you upload a picture of it being just a tv?
No, it’s not permanent - the mount used in art mode is completely customisable - it’s thickness can be changed or it can be removed completely, and the colour can be whatever is desired.
When the TV is on, the picture fully fills the frame as you’d want/expect.
The outer bezel (white, in my case) is an additional accessory that comes in different colours.
Thanks for the reply! Looks gorgeous.
that first photo looks like a professional stock photo, nice setup OP!
I don't get it. What makes it different than a normal tv? Jut a frame around it? Ignoring the single cable thing.
How much?
Wow what size is that?
I hate being broke
I’ve got two 55" frames - they really deliver on what they promise 👏🏼👏🏼
Is every member of this subreddit a dang millionaire?
This is an Ad
doubt it, OP has given criticism of it in other comments
I stand corrected then
/r/hailcorporate
Breathtaking
/r/HailCorporate
Looks neat. But can I just say that a "Frame TV" is probably one of the biggest wastes of electricity around in our modern era in my opinion! It also makes me wonder, of the owners of a frame tv, how long during the waking moments of the day is it actually on so people can see whatever artwork you put on it?
I guess I'm old fashioned, I'd rather use a TV to, you know, watch TV and not just art haha! To each their own I suppose.
The frame has a motion sensor so that it’s only displaying artwork when it detects motion.
Mine is configured to turn off the display after 5 mins of detecting no motion (I.e. after I’ve left the room) so it isn’t always on.
As for general usage when I’m using it, sure it’s a TV most of the time, but it’s nice to just be a piece of art when the living room is being used as a social space.
The biggest ones use like 60 watts. It’s not a negligible amount of power, but it’s also not a lot.
I guess I'm old fashioned, I'd rather use a TV to, you know, watch TV and not just art haha! To each their own I suppose.
When it's on it works just like every other TV.
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My frame tv is on less than 90% of the people with tv's. I think I'm good.
Looks amazing, but I always wonder what burn in is like on these kind of setups long term.
Copying from my response to a similar question:
My understanding is the QLED screens aren’t prone to burn in like OLEDs. Either way, my TV is set to turn off completely after 5 minutes if it detects no motion in the room, plus you can set the art to cycle through as a slideshow if preferred.
Ahh it’s a QLED! That makes sense then. I’ve got my QLED myself (opted for that over the OLED due to the burn in worry) also.
Looks beautiful and clean. Perfect match for the media console also.
Is it actually sustainable without burn-in? If so, that's neat.
Copying from my response to a similar question:
My understanding is the QLED screens aren’t prone to burn in like OLEDs. Either way, my TV is set to turn off completely after 5 minutes if it detects no motion in the room, plus you can set the art to cycle through as a slideshow if preferred.
Nice! I've got the 43. I'm going with the mountains/Dec art look.
Impossible to own something like that in Europe right now with the electricity prices.
Does it actually play tv channels?
Of course. It’s a regular smart TV.
Of course. It’s a regular smart TV.
Does the matting around the frame go away when the television is engaged for watching? Or is the matting permanently there?
Yes, the mount/matt goes away for normal TV viewing. In art mode, the matt can be customised in terms of size and colour, or removed completely.
Yes, the mount/matt goes away for normal TV viewing. In art mode, the matt can be customised in terms of size and colour, or removed completely.
Ah, very cool! That's a really nice television. Congratulations!
It's beautiful, but the fact you placed it so low on top of a tv console with a soundbar makes it look like a tv with a screensaver, rather than a piece of art.
Still beautiful, but if you were hanging art it would hang higher, maybe on top of a higher piece of furniture.
Yeah, but then it would suck for watching TV.
Not really, if you aren't sitting like 1,5m from the tv. I have mine in a sweet spot beetween art height and regular tv hight. Very pleasant to watch and doesn't look like a tv, but art. It's a matter pf preference ofc.
I wonder how easy it would be to connect the tv to a home hub that then detects when your phone is nearby to automatically turn on/off
Not sure about that, but is does have a motion sensor and turns itself off after a time if no one is in the room. Mine’s set to 5 mins.
Brilliant! I didn’t realise that, looks great
Probably, Samsung has a home app that does a lot of things. It'll turn on the moment you walk in the room anyway, so there isn't much need for such system.
Do you use the DirecTV Now app? Because everything else works great with my frame but the DirecTV Now app is a pile of shit
No - in all honesty, I don’t know what that is. I’ve been using the Smart Things app to control the art stuff and everything else (e.g. streaming, gaming, regular TV) seems to be working fine on the TV itself.
Is there still the problem of imagines being burned into the screen, if the image is displayed long enough?
My understanding is the QLED screens aren’t prone to burn in like OLEDs. Either way, my TV is set to turn off completely after 5 minutes if it detects no motion in the room, plus you can set the art to cycle through as a slideshow if preferred.
My brother has that and I cannot believe how good it looks. The shadows on the edges of the images really sell it.
What is this ? Is this actually a tv ?
Where did you get that Sonos cover? It's looks pretty sleek. Great setup!
Do you mean the soundbar? If so, it’s a Samsung one, not a Sonos.
Gotcha; it looks very similar to one of the "soundskin" covers for a Sonos Arc (their sound bar). Thanks!
If Frankie Dart had a tv
This is a dumb question but does it look weird when it’s turned off? And are there any concerns if you leave it on for a for longer period of time to see the picture?
Weird in what sense? Art mode takes a bit of customisation to get it looking right - you can adjust brightness, saturation and coolness/warmth of the images. The display has a motion sensor and so it turns off completely after a period of time if no one is around.
Oh that’s smart. Also I guess it just looks like a black canvas when it’s off? Or just a normal tv when it’s off?
When it’s truly ‘off’ it’s a black screen like any other TV, but the likelihood is that if you’re in the room with it, the motion sensor will have detected you and therefore you’ll see the art displayed. I guess the point of it is that most TVs don’t look very appealing when they’re off (a big, black rectangle), so this series’s thing is to eradicate that.
I think that’s really cool. I don’t like the appearance of a tv in the living room, so I hope to be able to buy a tv like this one day
I remember seeing some frames being sold at Currys for the Samsung, super interesting
r/Tvtoohigh lol jk looks solid. Why didn’t you mount the sound bar?
Thing is a pain to hang but worth it.
How does the painting quality look? What resolution does an input file need to be in order to not seem pixelated and to look "like actual art"? Can one use high resolution files from the metmuseum.org? You can get the right aspect ratio, but my concern is the won't look "real" on a 55" diagonal screen.
This is dope as hell.
People concerned about the electricity usage and low performance specs, and here I am thinking it's gorgeous yet you still have to put up with Samsung advertisement bloat on the UI.
Ha, that’s fair. Quite a bit of bloatware but the worst thing of all is that there’s ads on the home menu screen.
I thought about getting one earlier this year, but with all of the other things I've needed over the past two years, I decided to go with something cheaper. It's a great TV, though, and if I were to have to get another for my living room, it's probably what I'd go with.
I also have this tv and I definitely could be a bit happier. While the screen itself is really sleek and looks nice on the wall, it looks nothing like a painting or a picture frame, even with the passe-partout. It becomes especially noticeable at night. Other than that I’m pretty happy with it, but what it looks like is a TV that’s trying not to look like a TV. So keep that in mind lads
I don't understand the concept. It's a tv that never turns off?
I want one of these but it would only work over the fire place and then we are into r/TVTooHigh territory. Works best to a wall.
Any downsides?
Which the frame is this
75 inch
Looks good man
It looks really cool! It being a Samsung, however, how many ads does it bombard you with during normal use?
There seems to be just one on the Home screen as far as I can tell. I say “just” - that’s one too many and seeing an ad baked into the UI of TV for the first time definitely left a bit of a sour taste for me.
Agreed! Samsung makes good products, or at least they did, but they're going too far with ads. I'm also bitterly involved in a customer service dispute with them - sound bar malfunctioned after a month and I've been trying to get it fixed for almost two months now. I think they've lost the subwoofer.
I got a second-hand Q60 as my first tv in about 15yrs, but the frame is definitely my ideal and on my upgrade list as someone that lives in a studio apartment and don't care for the ambient mode for the q60. Sure I play games and watch tv sometimes in my evenings, but hate giant black screens and my studio would look so much better with a frame tv vs others.
That’s a tv?!?
Looks fantastic
Very pretty!
is this a 75in ?
Yes 👍
Wow
Where did you get the images?
Etsy
Looks great would you show how it looks behind? I'm contemplating but worried about the wall
Don’t want to faff about with pulling everything out but I can say that behind the TV unit is a brush plate opening which the TV cable runs through. Besides that, there’ll be a small opening behind the TV itself for the same purpose, plus the mounting brackets. The actual channel for the cable has been filled, sanded and painted over.
My partner is convinced these are so unnecessary, but I mean - come on! Look at that! Magnificent! 👨🍳💋
I don't understand how your tv doesn't look like a tv in art mode. I have the Frame too and I'm not loving art mode. It just feels like a computer screensaver...too illuminated.
It’s not as seamless as something as say e-ink on an ebook reader, but if you go into your art mode settings and play around with the settings (specifically brightness which I’ve got set to more or less all the way down) that makes a big difference.
Just wanted to say thanks! I dug around the settings and turned the brightness down. I think I also got confused on original setup since there's art mode and ambient mode.
Nice one. Happy to help.
Did you figure out how to adjust it? My installer installed one side slightly off level and its driving me fucking nuts. The samsung video here says it should be slightly adjustable
https://youtu.be/NOkO-wvcFnQ?t=312
The TV console combo is 👌
bro should I take the frame or q60a.Both are of the same price here and is the frame reliable
Honestly, I’m no TV expert so I couldn’t give you any worthwhile advice. I know that the Frame is a QLED display like the Q60A but I don’t know about other spec differences.
Had the Frame for a couple of months and no issues to report so far. Though, to be fair, I would expect to say that about literally any new TV.
I have my The Frame 2021 for two months now and can't be more pleased. I heard some people complain about the blacks and lightning but the results are great.
Hi Can I put like thousands of photos that rotate randomly? Thanks
Yep, pretty much. You can set it to slideshow mode and have the image change as frequently as every 3 mins, through to daily.
Thank you very much!! The transition between photos could be faster? Like 5-10 seconds?
Not in the settings I’ve seen. I suppose it would be good for the user to have the option but for what it’s worth, I think the images changing that quickly would detract from it feeling like a piece of art which is very much what they’re going for.
Thank you. I want a faster transition because a want to put thousands of family photos.
What is the name of this first piece of art? It’s amazing
I don’t have a name for it but I purchased it here:
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1124390659/samsung-frame-tv-art-4k-geometric
I’m curious - how long are the cables on these things? I fancy setting one up like your brilliant arrangement via a void in the wall but wondering if I’ll have enough cable to do so.
5 metres according to Samsung’s website. There was certainly plenty for this setup, with the excess just coiled inside the cabinet next to the one connect box.
Thanks so much!
Wall paint color??
Dulux Heritage: Midnight Teal
Beautiful
Lovely!
I have the frame. So dope. The one cable to rule them all is clutch.
woah
Bad ass
Wtf I want it
What's the energy rating like on that bad boy?
idk the specific number, but it has the worst efficiency score (G on the A to G scale) the EU gives iirc
Have you noticed a bump in bills from leaving it on?
I've had The Frame 43" since this summer and haven't seen any noticeable change in my power bill. We keep it in art mode throughout the day, but it also has a motion sensor that puts it to sleep when no one is around and will wake back up if it senses movement (for example, during the night or when we aren't home).
I thought about getting a Frame for so long before getting a Q90t instead. I loved the idea of the always on art mode, but I just kept thinking, how often am I in my living room and not watching TV? And I realized it would just be a huge waste of energy.
has a sensor that turns it on/off based on detected activity in the room
i have the 2020 model which is kind of shitty compared to this year’s. barely any storage for photos or apps and thick as fuck
I have one and it hasn't noticably impacted my energy bill at all. There's also a motion sensor you can set so if nobody walks by for an amount of time of you're choosing it will turn off. I've had it for about 9 months and I've really enjoyed it. People that come over also compliment it quite often.
I think it uses close to a 100W even when on art mode with "color popping" art like what OP has, but, energy rating compared to a lit Christmas tree is less for sure - I connected my Smartthings Energy monitoring outlet to my tree and it measures 200W!
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200w is a little over 1 Amp at 120v.
It would be closer to 2 amps
1.666666666666666 amps
Unfortunately, I live in a part of the world where buying a LED Christmas tree is more expensive than paying more in electricity bills for a pre LED tree.
My tree is less than 3 years old
They will sell incandescent next to led in most places, imo incandescent lights are classic and give a different atmosphere, they are just different from the way they light up to the way they cast light
Doesn’t even need to be very old. We’ve had incandescent ones since 2013 and picked up some replacement ones in the last year or two of the exact same kind. Similar to https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-String-A-Long-100-Count-20-6-ft-Clear-White-Incandescent-Plug-In-Christmas-String-Lights/50054667
They might cost a bit more electricity wise, but the warm glow is so much prettier than what a lot of newer leds put out
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