Imagine giving your all 110% for $11 an hour.
Imagine giving your all 110% for $11 an hour.
Been there done that doesn't work
U.k tend to do that.
Imagine giving 10% and expecting $25 an hour
I see you have met people at the DMV
Sounds like white collar jobs
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14 year old Maoist after realizing that Chinese people don't like the guy who starved their familys:
What's funny is the people that need to understand this won't and will somehow think that you're on their side.
Do chinese pple rlly hate. Mao?
nope, most are braimwashed into loving him
A maoist isn’t a person that really likes mao
What the fuck will a masochist like mao, he likes pain you dumbass
If they are so replaceable why arnt they getting replaced.
Where’s the automation we were promised?
Ask the 60s
Not enough workers building it
Lol why would we
Especially at today’s wages
You're correct. I build electrical panels for automation, we've been hiring for like 2 years. I think it's something like 10 positions and we finally got one guy hired this week. People don't like working our hours because they have to be up early.
Coming
People seem to think lazy = working your wages. Pay me minimum wage and Im going to give minimum effort.
The way I see it is, only do what they pay me to do. If they want me to do more, my paycheck better reflect that extra or(if it's a continuous thing) just promote me.
Take it from someone that took on advancements with the promise of future raises. Don't fucking do it. The money needs to come first.
Nobody is dumb enough to do that i thought
Wtf are you talking about? Its extremely common, especially when you're in a competitive field
Lol
I mean. If I was an employer. I wouldn’t give a minimum effort employee a pay rise. I would give it to the person who puts in the effort and has proved their value is worth more.
That being said I get that just because you work above and beyond it doesn’t mean you will Get a pay rise but if the employer were to give one it would be this.
That only works for small companies. Not convoluted corporates with multi level reporting and strictly controlled budgets.
Sorry to hear about your bad evaluation bro.
Never worked for a corporate bro, and within a year I got juicy increments equivalent to my 110% effort. Can't say the same for my corporate peers who wanted to leave instead.
Oh so you don't actually know how corporations work but still speak on them
We were their personal headhunters/ recruiters. It's time for you to stfu 'bro'?
Never worked for a corporate bro
No u
Yeah can't argue against the mentally challenged. So won't say anymore.
Ever been denied a scheduled pay raise because you did your job well enough they thought they didn't need you, then cut your hours? That's the security guard life.
I hear this most from the teenagers I work with who quit after their better coworkers get raises and they don't...
The opposite of what I’ve seen. Usually it’s a long time being disrespected, then eventually it’s “fuck it, I don’t care anymore”
"What do you mean teenagers also deserve human decency?"
Literally dude is grasping at straws rn. Even long term teenagers get frustrated
You have to be kidding, I heard this most in fast food working with people who were definitely NOT teenagers and had been working their asses off for years.
If you're not a teenager working your ass off for years in fast food without serious advancement i question your judgment. If you're a good worker there is no reason to stay in fast food.
You have a delusional and magical understanding of the world you live in. Good luck
"I'm going to do the bare minimum."
Five years later: "Fucking system is keeping me down."
No. More like people spent years, even decades going the extra mile and got fuck all in return for their hard work, so they quit giving a fuck.
I've bent over backwards and always got fucked. Now I don't take shit and do the bare minimum and I've never been happier.
This. Exacctly this.
No, it’s not.
What’s your favorite type of leather sole?
Could make a years salary in a few months mining if you really wanna talk about work ethic. You said it yourself, you’re doing teenagers work. 3$ more on the hour isn’t much.
No you don’t lol you hear it from normal workers who bust their asses and don’t get treated properly in the long run. Also anyone talking shit about “doing minimum effort I wouldn’t give you a raise” so for everyone that’s put in extra work but didn’t get promoted or a raise what do you say to them? They’re the ones that this shit affects the most. Teenagers deserve living wages too just because you’re a certain age doesn’t mean you pay them less, this is why their are labor laws now to stop slave labor
Yes... I do. That's why I made my comment. Lol.
They get paid fine for the extremely easy work they do, but a lot of them have zero work ethic because they don't have the perspective and experience of someone who's been in the work place for a while. It's their first job and they think they deserve the world. They don't put in the effort and then they don't earn their raise. There are other kids who come in and they've been raised by parents who have them do work around the house/farm/family business and they have developed a good work ethic and I've literally seen them earn a raise in a few months of working, which really upsets the lazy ones because they have this idea that they deserve more for literally no reason.
Also, I'm not their boss. The decision isn't mine to make. I also work a different position from them now, but I started in their role a few years ago, so I know exactly how easy their job is.
And you will never make more with that delusional ideology. First of all it’s extremely rare to make minimum wage anymore in the US and it’s been that way for a long time now not just recently. Secondly low wages are entry level. Prove your worth and make more. You will only get paid based on your worth. If you are worthless and aren’t profitable you won’t make decent money. How is that a hard concept to grasp? If you are making minimum wage and you are a kid that’s to be expected and you can expect better money in the future as you learn and become more profitable. If you are an adult and you make minimum wage there’s only two options. You are seriously lazy or stupid. Usually both.
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Get your slurs right. Bootlickers are pro cops. I’m pro intelligence and self worth. I would ask if you even have work boots but we already know the answer
Bootlickers are pro authority, such as accepting wagonloads of bullshit from employers, dumbass
Huh. And here I was thinking it was just people who like the taste of leather. You got wagonloads of stupid child. Wake up
This guy makes a good point, I see no reason to downvote so hard
Let it rain. I’m currently in a shit battle with one of the mods. Y’all sensitive around here. Surprising based on the sub name.
We’re on Reddit, they don’t take too kindly to the idea that hard work is worth it because they haven’t ever done it.
Yeah I wish I would have dummied up sooner. I would already be retired and have more time to Dick around in Reddit lol
Yeah I remember being a lazy kid. That’s shit was actually hard lol. It sucks being broke and feeling like you ain’t never going anywhere. Then you work because being homeless sucks and working hard makes the day go by fast. Next thing you know you have learned something profitable and are living the first world problems dream.
If you dont agree with the hivemind then they will bully you till you leave.
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Use common sense. I’m going to keep using my freedom of speech and talking truth to morons who think pretentious big words they learned on Reddit make them intelligent. My observation is based on facts. I know that’s hard for some to grasp but it doesn’t change the facts.
You talk like Ben Shapiro
Based on my dick indeed
Also god didn’t give us the freedom of speech, personal firearms did that
Based on my dick
God damn that bot ain’t fucking around. Damn r/murderedbywords as a service
How do you expect to get promoted?
You will never get a raise with that line of thinking, if you don’t want minimum wage why would you intentionally try to stay at minimum wage?
Maybe 5% of minimum wage jobs have real advancement and exist without a shitty time based incremental wage increase policy lol. Just stop
Pretty much every single person I know who is successful started at minimum wage. That was a long time ago. Maybe that’s why you struggle? Even fast food starts well above minimum wage now. I start felons with no experience at $20 an hour. Just contribute
Nobody said you have to stay at Taco Bell. And hey if you get experience running a Taco Bell apply yourself, take some business classes which you can find for extremely cheap or free. If you are really wanted to dedicated your career to Taco Bell and make a shit ton of money it’s 100% possible. Only person stopping you is you.
You think a Taco Bell employee can pay their way through business school, instead of being stuck in a wage cycle? People like you 1. Have never struggled, and think your privilege is hard work. Likely you worked at a fast food joint as a kid to buy video games as a teen, while the parents handled the rest. Or 2. Came up from a poor family, worked hard and got a lucky break. Then has the audicity to tell everyone else they dont work hard enough even though their moms washed linens their whole life to put a roof over their head.
It’s actually around 66%
Well, 90% of stats are made up, but atleast I made an attempt at a realistic estimate...
Your number isn’t realistic at all. May I ask what job you are currently working?
Normally, minimum wage is a temporary payout for entry-level jobs, specifically for those who are inexperienced in that field of work.
Im currently an homeless/addict/gov pension outreach worker, left out of logging due to chronic arthritis, which I have recieved no compensation after nearly a decade of dedication and wear and tear. Dont act for a second like you have more life experience and knowledge than I do.
Yeah you think you wouldn’t here “I guess no body wants to work “ as often
Death is preferable to communism.
Death is preferable
Can you please define communism?
They can't lmao. If they knew what is was they wouldn't have said that
Maybe its free healthcare. It's always free healthcare. And paid parental leave. That's some satanist shit
"and free healthcare is bad because some people dont want healthcare"
That's literally the mindset of a brainwashed or a fucking robot (intentional). Always give everything and everyone the benefits of doubt.
No,
I'd rather die than live under communism.
Literally, live free or die.
agreed, as a great song states "Freedom is merely privilege extended, Unless enjoyed by one and all"
You, dear sir are respectable
Implying communism isn’t “free.” You know black rock is your true leader yeh? You probably don’t know black rock judging by your username but that’s what you get with American public schooling so idk look it up
Please define communism. Your whole account is based of identity politics
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You cannot live off welfare
Have you seen the current state of the English and American economy? England ran out of drivers and America was literally running out of everything not a few weeks ago
That’s a quote from a fucking video game you stupid fuck
No the fuck it isn’t you quibbling bumble fuck I’m just coasting under the rock I live under and only catch fragments of new from the outside world so I have no fucking clue what’s going on which is why it’s a question
Honestly
No we weren't? At least here in the U.S. What the fuck are you talking about?
No we have had major shortages and extreme price increases across the board. That’s mostly COVID and political games but it’s a fact. Everything from cars, plastics, Red Bull and even mattresses are seeing shortages and price increases. I work with epoxy for a living. The chemicals they use to make the material has been seeing inconsistency of raw materials since Covid. The US is seeing real supply issues and not just because a bunch of hoarders were buying up toilet paper. Maybe you don’t see it because you don’t produce anything but it’s actually a thing. Labor is coming back now that unemployment is cutting the cord but that’s not the only reason for the very real shortages.
He said "running out of everything", not price increases or shortages. There's a difference. I work in metals. I've dealt with the container issues, rail issues, metals market surging last December and inflating, etc. But I wasn't going to a barren grocery store.
Update from MN; we ran out.
Edit: They actually announced it in the paper on Wednesday. Hospitals are officially out of supplies and beds, wait times in the ER exceed 7-9 hours before you get seen, if you get seen at all.
I wasn’t kidding. We ran out.
~~Edit 2: the last time I was in the ER (early Oct) I was there for four hours and I watched a woman’s kidneys fail in the fucking waiting room. If you’re in MN and reading this, just stay home.~~
Oh fuck
I like watching it burn
Popcorn?
Society
I am also from Minnesota. How are you?
My Thanksgiving could’ve been better but overall not terrible. Everyone in our family is safe, we haven’t been exposed to Covid at all (thank god.) How are you doing?
I was deployed most of this year. Only one in the house who got vaccinated so far. We all WFH though and get groceries delivered.
Death is preferable to communism.
no no starving and living in a 4x4 room with a family of 5 good
Then we're the robo slaves?
Robots cannot be slaves any more than your computer is a slave.
They are. By other lazy replaceable workers. People who are profitable get raises and move up the ladder. Unemployment is coming to an end. Time to get back to being a bottom barrel employee wondering why you ain’t climbing lol
They are, but with robots. Scarcity drives innovation.
It's not if but when. So it's not really contradictory when you don't care about looking for a new job/going jobless for a while
Replaceable doesnt mean they need to be replaced. Replaceable means that when they are gone there are at least 10 other people that are happy to fill the vacancy
Well if they got fired and the company didn't go out of business that employee was most likely replaced.
That's not true, Activision, Meijer, EA, and plenty of other companies have fired people without replacing them. They're not out of business
The position or the employee? Because I’m sure fry cook turnover happens pretty often
Pans over to ATMs, mechanized farming equipment, and self checkout machines
Because a 17 year old gamer who wants to install a patriarchy made this. Zero perspective outside of Elder Scrolls lore.
If they aren't so replaceable why do they whine and bitch EVERY SINGLE DAY?
Because the lazy, entitled fucks are still marginally cheaper.
Plenty of them weren't, and so they were replaced already.
Almost got me there bezos
Employers when all their employees quit because being able to pay rent isn’t up for debate
Employees when they realize that now they can't buy anything couse no one is working, so they will now either Starve to death or strat stealing, witch they could just do form the start and not ruin global economy placing millions in poverty.
Nice try musk
Yeah, fuck you elon!
Can you fuck me 😫😫🍆🍆💦💦
First redditor to ever hate Elon Musk
No fuck YOU
no fuck ME
if theres no work whos gonna be there to make that caremal soup potato covid black plauge hitler sussy baka imposter amogus trump biden franklind resevelt m2 browing pc belle delphine cooled latte of yours?
I’ll do it just to see wtf that shit looks like.
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Not a haiku. Second line needs to be 7 syllables.
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YOU HAVE ANGERED THE LOSER REDDIT HIVEMIND.
REPENT IMMEDIATELY OR BE TORN ABOUT BY FUCKERS WHO CANT EVEN DO THEIR JOBS PROPERLY.
9/10 times people can’t even get a simple burger order right and they’re asking for more money
Why would I give a shit about a job that won't pay me enough to survive?
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Not rich enough to get away with it
If you’re making that little money you get most of those taxes back, weenie hut junior
Have you tried embezzlement?
I shouldn't have to rely on crime for basic survival needs in the richest country on earth.
A waiter shouldn't have to rely on the generosity of customers tipping to survive either. What the actual fuck is USA's problem?
People who make $2500 an hour convinced people that make $25 an hour that people who make $15 an hour make too much.
$15 per hour taxable income on top of $10 per hour non taxable tipping yeah? Why are americans always trying to find some bullshit to cry about
Oh so you literally don’t know anything
Educate me
You pay taxes on tips.
Not with one little trick
Most places a computer keeps track of your sales and you have to claim at least 10% your sales for tips.
That sucks, what if you didn't get tipped good on that day
You have to get a manager override.
Lol I just read this recently. Thank you for vomiting it back up again.
How does "I've heard this already" invalidate the statement exactly?
Just pointing out that you're regurgitating something you probably just seen earlier
I reiterate my previous statement.
Baby it's cold outside
Lock up the house
because its correct
US waiters get paid with tips than any employer would be willing to pay alone. On average they walk away with around $75 extra a day and around $120 on weekends. If they worked 5 days a week they get an extra 1,500 a month Untaxed. When you're waiting tables you tend to find out if your good or bad at your job pretty quickly. I'm sure you can guess which ones wanna change the system
Those seem like solid stats, maybe I stand corrected. Can I get a source?
I did it back in college sorry I can't provide more solid evidence. But there's a reason why they put up with so much shit and complain but don't quit that position once they have it.
Tips are never guaranteed
Neither are hours
If you're threatening them with poverty if they don't just shut up and do their job, why should they give a shit about doing it well?
And that's fine, don't give a shit about doing well, just don't complain about the system that's working out a lot better for everyone else that does.
But it’s the American dream!
You don’t. All you have to do is actually show up to work learn and contribute. It’s easy. The day goes by fast and there is a extremely comfortable life to be had. You just gotta show up. Instinct will take care of the rest. If not I want onion rings with that.
Again, why should I care about doing anything but the bare minimum of effort for a company that won't pay me enough to live on without having my income subsidized by your tax dollars?
Because the system tells you to is most likely going to be the gist of their answer. A lot of people don’t seem to realize the “work harder move up” bs Is the lie corporate America sells you to incentivize you to work more for less or the same money without ever intending to give you shit. That’s why so many people have the experience of working hard as fuck to end up coming away with nothing in the end. I’ve worked in management positions in multiple companies it’s a legit tactic they tell you to use to “motivate” employees.
You should rephrase that. Why would any company give you a raise for minimum effort when you live off everyone who works tax dollars? Don’t self destruct because the cool kids are doing it. Those are the only people who actually make minimum wage because it’s the cool job everyone wants to do like working at a headshop. You have worth. Prove it.
Minimal compensation for my time equals minimum effort for said time. If you provide compensation I can actually live on, I would actually give a shit about the work. Until then, fuck you. I'm not a wage slave and refuse to be treated like one.
Lol man that’s such a cliche kids thing who is cared for thing to say. I truly hope someday you truly understand your value if you apply yourself. Nothing is free once you’re parents pass. Even if they leave you money you will blow it without real life experience.
The only spoiled guy here is you. To think there are still people believing minimum wage is adequate compensation and you should just be expected to work harder for that.
Have you ever tried not being poor. It makes life much easier.
Have you ever tried not being alive? It makes life so much easier for everyone else.
Except for all the orphans I have in my basement. Who would feed them?
Yet you're still alive. Curious. 🤔
You should if that's the only job you're able to do.
So I should be grateful to be so poor as result of my employer not paying me with to afford basic essentials like healthcare AND food?
Found the libtard
Not wanting to be treated like an expendable piece of machinery by the person I literally rely on for my source of income makes me a "libtard"? Interesting 🤔
Bruh this is a shitposting subreddit, where tf did you think you were
Are you implying that I should take you as an example as to why I should lower my expectations regarding the quality of people I find on Reddit?
You must be fun at parties
You and I both know that nobody on Reddit goes to parties
You don’t even get invited to the parties
I can't remember who said it, maybe I'm not quoting anyone important, but I remember hearing "The best way to prevent a revolution is to treat people well"
Probably the French and Russian royalty.. oh wait..
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they are being salty to scare off the snail
Pretty much
HEHEHEHA
I don't think they are surprised that they aren't treated with human decency, but rather the sub is for people that seek other people who find themselves in a similar situation, which can help to motivate each one to quit and find better alternatives, or revolt against it or reduce their burden by using quick and dirty solutions.
It's more about people just wanting to earn livable wages, most of the top posts I come across on anti work is how people basically told a shitty boss to go f themselves,boss said they'd amount to nothing but now they're in a better job earning more.
It's just about mistreatment of employees and how it needs to stop really
I mean funny meme but minimum wage means minimum effort, and if I can't live on it you can forget it
Gee, I wonder why you’re getting minimum wage..
lmao you will too bud
People only reading the title of a sub and just running with it like:
Well no shit. If you make a sub called “antiwork” I’ll assume that you’re against working regardless of what’s being posted on the sub.
So you will assume something wrong, regardless of the evidence you can clearly see? And your bragging about that?
“Boomer has entered the chat”
I’m gen z lmao
I’m sorry, “privileged child has entered the chat” is that better?
?
Lemme go post a picture of my shit, brb
When the underpaid workers finally quit and restaurants shut down making less and less jobs
When lazy paid for what they are worth workers quit their job where they didn’t do much anyway and so restaurants make robots to do the stuff they were doing -_-
Bruh
Someone who's never worked in a restaurant. Only the best employees quit. Trust me, they know they aren't replaceable, and it's why quality has dropped so heavily. And also, where are these robots?
Yeah those lazy workers doing 2-3 peoples work for same pay. These clowns have to be trolling cuz that’s the dumbest shit I been hearing.
So, what is lazy about loading your Amazon packages across a 14 hour shift where even when I pause to shake a fart out of my ass I'll have to explain to my boss but the ai forgot I was called by my boss so it automatically fires me for neglagence.
Go on about how its lazy of me to put your burgers in buns and fold that shit up just so I can turn around and hope my schedule for the next week doesn't conflict with my second job
You're whats wrong, and I hope you're some stupid fucking 15yo who will get his wake up call when daddys money runs out or you flunk college.
where robot
no one wants (or deserves) to work for 10usd an hour.
True, no one deserves any payment
Unless you’re doing a task or service for said person. You know, kind of how the world works.
Humans don't deserve monetary compensation for anything, food and drink are enough for me 😌
Have you ever had a job, or not lived with your parents?
No.
I mean atleast he’s honest
Hope that $3 burger and soda combo pays rent lol
Rent? I live in a cave
What about prostitutes? What about your mom?
Prostitutes are cringe ngl
exactly, end wage slavery, its only a means to steal one's value of labour
You really have no idea how lucky you are if you think 10-15 an hour is low
You also have to factor in living costs. In places where 15 is considered low, the living and medical costs must be soaring, whereas 15 in a poorer country can get you a decent life.
Edit: I must admit I don't really know how much 15/hr is in US context though
That's fair
honestly
Depends on where you like. In my country India 15$ is like upper class kind of pay.
Filipinos have entered the chat
Edit: Its ok, white people, Filipinos aren't easily offended.
No man, everything in America is just expensive. You could live like royalty with that kind of cash in E*stern Europe
But then you have to live with the P*lish and Ro*anians 🤢
and fr*nch🤮
Those are ugly w*stoids🥖🤢🤮
some people dont get paid 10 usd a day , how about you americunts be grateful for once
its not ok when were struggling to survive on 10usd
B b but america worst country in the world, bad system, very racist, guns aaaa
-americunt
i like gun
Again, different costs of living. Price gouging and inflation in the US are rampant
That's why there are jobs that pay more than that and also require more effort.
so many jobs that are absolutely required for society to function pay like shit, so that point is just moronic
Such as? Mind you, I'm a truck driver and I get paid a very comfortable wage. But I didn't walk into the work force at 15 expecting to make the same amount of money making hamburgers that someone with 10 years experience as a forklift operator earns. I wasn't a forklift operator expecting to earn what a truck driver earns.
You're the one comparing wages. Minimum wage employees simply want to live comfortably for fulltime work. Keep wages in-line with rising living costs and inflation.
I'm well aware of inflation, I've been through it three times already. That problem rests in politics more than employers though.
Companies can choose to pay their employees more, they pay minimum wage because that's the lowest legal wage they can. The problem is definitely with employers
Every job regardless should pay a living wage. Doesn't matter if you are flipping burgers or building rockets.
I made $7.00/hour for 5 years. I'm still alive. I just didn't have as much comfort as I wanted. Which is why I decided that I would try to earn more elsewhere so I could change that. What is your idea of living wage?
15$/hour as start.So people don't have to go around and say "i survived".
Doing what? I ran a forklift loading and unloading trailers for Dole at $12/hour with one break in the day. That shit was exhausting and OT was a sure thing. That was much harder and far more demanding than delivering pizza or flipping burgers(which, as I said, I've done). So, keeping that in mind, would you agree to work harder and go above and beyond for that $15? I understand that this a reasonable amount of money, but realistically....most people aren't even worth $7/hour. Why should some lazy half wit earn as much as someone that busts their ass everyday and goes home exhausted and deservably so? A few words are coming to mind here. Like socialism, for a start.
inflation exists. in the 1970's someone could work at mcdonalds and make enough money to support a spouse and 3 children, all on one income. why shouldnt that be the case now?
And do you think raising the wage bypasses inflation??? It’s just going to catch up again and again if we keep raising the wage then it’s gonna be like Germany after the treaty of Versailles
im not very educated on this aspect, which i should definitely look into.
Best I can do is 11.25
come on Rick you gotta give me something to work with here. Wanna call in your expert friend?
Everyone should get treated just like him. It just isn't fair otherwise 😭😭😭
Good for you? You are likely lucky enough to live in a place unlike me where a full time minimum wage gets you more than a shared studio apartment.
I've done that before too. Everyone has problems or has had problems. I've been homeless too. Do you wanna compare scars or have constructive dialogue? I asked for your perspective relative to the topic at hand.
youve been propagandized. the corpoations can afford to pay more, but instead you had to become homeless.
I became homeless because I didn't manage my finances better. I had what I needed, but I chose to be frivilous and live outside my means. I make enough now to be able to be frivilous when I want. Propagandized is as simple of a conclusion as anyone can come to. It's just throwing your hands up and saying "it's not me, it's the world.". I did that when I was younger, but now I know what it actually was. I was more often my obstacle, not the world. I can honestly look back 10 years and say that I had plenty of options and chose to complain about how hard it was and woe is me. I wasted that time. Don't make my mistake.
point is times are changing, and people can manage their spendings well and still become homeless. my sister for example. she was a modest spender and still could not find a job that paid above $13 an hour
I'm sorry to hear that bud. It's an awful thing to go through. If you don't me asking, are the more details to this? Like when and where?
I can't see or respond to your comment. I saw rural PA, and I got a notification on my phone, but it's absent from my notifications on Reddit and it's not showing up in our dialogue.
You keep commenting, but your comments keep disappearing.
???
I'm getting notifications, but the comments aren't in the thread. I dunno.
Did your endurance run dry? I can't say I'm surprised...
Wut?
You can theoretically live on minimum wage as long as you work full time and don’t live in an expensive city
You can live on minimum wage as long as you dont live
Why?
Why not?
Slick
I mean, why would it? You're most often paid by the value you contribute. Minimum wage was never meant to wholly support a person, but that doesn't mean it can't
Minimum wage was literally meant to support a person when it was first created.
If by that you mean minimum standard of living you're correct, but that varies heavily from state to state.
I mean they’re living, are they not?
The question is whether they deserve a thriving wage.
EMT, $7 per hr in 2007. I worked 24 hr shifts and pulled people out of wrecks, picked up psych pts police didn't want to deal with etc.
And you choose to present a pandering article that clearly has no ulterior motive or bias...
Dude the labor shortage for truck drivers isn’t even controversial. There’s literally dozens of articles you can find all saying the same thing: There’s a retention problem, drivers either aren’t cut out for the work or aren’t getting paid enough to deal with it. I find it extremely hard to believe that’s it’s just propaganda. Why would they even lie about that
Oh you read articles? I just do it everyday, what would I know?
1.5% of workers make min wage or less. Half of those are teenagers
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2020/home.htm
Yes, but minimum wage is well below a living wage. According to MIT, a living wage is the US is labeled as a wage of at least 16usd an hour. The amount of Americans earning below a livable wage is nearly 30%. That is outrageous. The companies that do that can easily afford to pay more, but greed is a powerful motivator.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a-majority-of-americans-make-less-than-20-per-hour-2014-11-14
Wouldn’t that change drastically from state to state / city to city? Living in New York and LA is way different from smaller towns. Using one value for the entire country is just inaccurate.
And many many people out there shouldnt be working those jobs due to incompetence.
and those incompitent people dont deserve to live? which is what you are implying when you dont want to give them a living wage to survive.
There's some very angry person here that keeps hurling hostilities, but their comments are disappearing and I can't address them. Not that they're worth the attention, but I'd like to be able to read them in their entirety and laugh at them.
in my experience the more i get paid the less i do
That's a you problem bud. I've worked with people like you. Eventually, people catch on and you get demoted.
oh it's not a problem at all. it's not like i'm complaining lol. I get paid well and it's laxed. it's just the nature of the job. I'm a dod contractor. It's just a job and that's it. There's no demoting or promoting which is exactly what I want. btw i'm agreeing with you. I'm just telling my experience
I was an EMT that worked 24hr shifts for $7 an HR in 2007. That took effort.
Nevermind the effort. The time alone is worth more than $10/h.
Time doing what? Working? If that's the case, I should be making $45/hour working 60 hour weeks. Though when I fuel the leased truck that I drive for the company that hired me ($200 at the pump and thanks Joe) to drive it while they're paying at least $300/ month to lease (i'm being conservative) and they also have over head costs for their warehouse, plus they have to buy and maintain their own trailers and pay insurance on both along with insurance on the cargo (which is astronomical)...that reality makes my head spin considering that I just show up and drive the truck and unload it.
I should be making $45/hour
Yet you waste your time finding excuses for your employer to underpay you while shitting on those below you instead of simply demanding what you're worth. You're licking boots and kicking down all at the same time.
Nobody's time is so worthless that by selling 40 hours of it every week they shouldn't be able to live off of it. And if your business can only survive paying poverty wages, then maybe it's a shit business that needs to disappear since it can't compete.
No, that's not whats happening.I was relating to the ridiculousness. It's called sarcasm. I was pandering to the senseless ideology that's being promoted. It was a joke. I'm telling you and anyone else (40 hours? Pffft) that if you want more, do more. The opportunity is out there. You have options. You. Have. Options.
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Well you read pretty deeply into that. Maybe I should elaborate more then? Do you realize how often forklifts break down and require maintenance? How often operator error damages equipment, storage locations, trailers, trucks, and flat out destroys product? It happens everyday. I see it happen. There goes a $2000 pallet of product because that guy wasn't paying attention. All wasted. Do you know how often trucks and trailers require service? I do. I also know expensive it is. I can keep going if you want.
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What are YOU trying to say? So far you're just picking at what I'm saying.
Shut up functionalist. You can't look at problems with that kinda perspective.
Ok, teach me.
I swear im gonna get your momma jokes or smth, but teach you what?
You've been shouting a lot and you're obviously very angry...do you have a perspective to offer? You have my undivided attention. Why am I wrong?
Just use conflict perspective or smth. Idk. Functionalist perspective is reliant on believing that everything is in working order, and you can't really deal with problems using it.
I never said everything is in order. I'm saying things are the way they are, and it's a lot easier to work around them than to try to make them move. Do you think I'm against people prospering?
Im not saying youre a bad person or anything, Im just saying that your perspective isnt optimal for dealing with problems. Tbh i should just shut up.
Why do you feel the need to be so rude about your approach. Don’t you want to actually have some kind of constructive discourse without telling people to “shut up”?
No. Tbh i was just joking, but then I kinda got serious. Its really my fault.
Completely agree, expecting an entire 10usd/hour is entitled as fuck
Edit: Holy shit some of you guys are completely smooth brained. I didn't think I needed to put a /s on this. But here it is
So you are saying the USA needs to give 50usd an hour per employee? That is just gonna make more companies use Chinese employees more because they get 3usd an hour
In Eastern Europe this would be enough for comfortable life and more.
but in the US it's not livable
Depends on where you live
its barely livable in a select few areas, but for the overwhelming majority it isnt livable.
i think the problem is that everything in america is so expensive, like if you want to buy a coffe you have to pay 1$ for the coffe, 10$ for a tip 4000$ for medical bills because you accidently spilled hot coffe on your hand.
Dumb idiots, instead of circlejerking on reddit you should work 12h a day 7 days a week for minimal wage 🤬
Lmao outjerked
Not a shitpost but definitely a shit post
Agreed. Kid's probably never worked in their life.
I bet they dont even work 90 hours a week. Fuckin kids. Id die for my company!
Guys this is sarcasm.
This is Jake
Edit: from Statefarm
No this is Patrick
who would’ve guessed
He was actually getting downvoted before I put that reply
ah well i suggest you delete that comment then
No 😎
I'm sure most of the downvoters know full well that they were being sarcastic. Anyone who isn't on the spectrum will pick up on it.
Really? Only ninty? I work 169 hours a week at least 😤
I’ve never worked and even I can tell just how severe the problem is.
What does corporate cock taste like?
Americans when they don’t receive 99999999 dollars per hour for flipping burger meat at MacDonald’s
The sub isn't like that at all though. It's mostly people talking about how their employer mistreated them. For example "My boss said I can't have bathroom breaks" But of course you won't acknowledge that. Because on Reddit making fun of other subreddits with zero basis is what we do.
In the United States, over the last 40 years productivity in the workplace has increased 72% over the previous 40 years. While compensation has increased by 9% this is not a shitpost but a shit post.
I would say that's bcoz of computerz but I agree with you
u mad bro
Yes and if you're not, you should be.
i like paying my employee's less tho, more money for me u know
OP can’t get enough of the taste of boots
OP is a bourgeois bot sabotaging the revolution
Yeah this is a shit post.
If some of you kids could read/think...
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/11/productivity-workforce-america-united-states-wages-stagnate
Sick boot licking bro
Rero rero rero
Omg one piece reference 😊
What the hell is that sub? I only see people bitching about it and I don’t understand what they do, not defending them though, because I don’t even know what the damn sub is about
because I don’t even know what the damn sub is about
Atleast you admit it
Basically a group of Americans that are upset that they're being paid less than a living wage and being treated unfairly by managements. The problem is that some people have shown up and taken the sub name literally and now there are some people that are actually anti-work.
The sidebar makes it clear that the sub is about, and I quote, "ending work".
Maybe you should petition the mods to fix the sidebar.
Huh, always assumed it was always against labor, full stop.
It was and is lol
The sub was made by anarcho-communists
I thought that too at first, but it's really just wanting good working conditions and livable wages
it was created to literally be anti-work, explicitly anti-capitalist. If you dont know this you clearly dont even know the history of the sub you are talking about
I guess I should've specified that that was my perception of the subreddit. I've only clicked on a few posts from it, and none of them I've seen have been explicitly anti-capitalist
yes because its now oversaturated with liberals lmao. Hopefully their exposure to such a group and its longer members will be the ideal seed of education for them
anti-work consider liberals to be too far towards center and they properly get made fun of for their centrist takes. It is a anarcho-commie sub.
yes, that is good
for crying about their pathetic pay. fake texts and fake stories about quitting fantasies
This is true
Shh don’t go there it’s all people who work shit jobs and complain about it when it’s most likely their fault they are in that situation, or it’s just stories about peoples workplaces
The mistreatment and lack of adequate pay compared to all previous generations can be backed up by facts (at least in America) but okay bootlicker 👍
Communists
Lmao says the guy with the copium name
Communism is when I'm able to live off of one job
(Get a better job)
(You're a fucking donut)
(I want to tongue out the filling of this donut)
OwO
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It's literally people calling for a general workers strike and skirting revolution talk. But ok fam.
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What else can you do if you don't make a living wage? Die?
Ah a perfect example of US propaganda
Entitled people who thinks they're worth more than they're paid but struggle to find anyone who can agree with them on how much they worth and can actually pay them that amount.
Mad commies who live in their moms basement mad they cant make $25/hour to flip burgers
This meme is so wrong
Very cringe take
Your boot sir 👢
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Raising the minimum wage is literal communism 😖😖😖
>paying a livable wage is communism
cmon people can't be that brainwashed
Can if they want to!
Predictable coming from a user with that name
unironic Liberty Prime quoter (derogatory)
Yes.
Leave it to fallout fans to stick by the ideologies that the games they play satirize
Pretty sure the millions dead under communism would dissagree.
Those counts include nazis who died in WWII, so you know how screwed up and biased the counts were.
Keep choking on that boot.
You are a living proof capitalism is a complete fail man
Millions of dead under Stalin and mao say otherwise
I think USA was involved in way more than that, including the countries you’re talking about. You live in a country made up in lies
Ah yes, the USA, the only country to employ capatilism as its economic system.
How do all the people dead from capitalism feel?
So do you prefer gargling Musk’s balls or Bezos’s? Or maybe Gates?
What. The million's dead under communism say otherwise
Millions? More like billions, liar. Come back when you've stopped being a commie shill.
Going to assume that was meant to be “supper” and you are expressing excitement about gobbling billionaire ballsack.
^ this man gets it
Employers value no employees
When did shitposting and dankmemes become so political? Shame on u idiots
It’s funny that the people that talk about the system being irreparably broken are the same ones talking about telling their boss to fuck off because they have better opportunities. That’s literally the market working. All of these employers complaining about not being able to find workers will either be forced to raise their pay or go out of business. The supply/demand curve never lies.
Proworkers gagging on their masters cock for as little money as possible
So you are antiwork?
Im pro fucking your mom pansy want to have a political debate or something on reddit lol
Anti-work when their homemade glass dog-shaped dildos on etsy don't put food on the table (It's capitalism's fault)
Nah we just like working for money. Not being lazy on Xbox all day
Shitposting indeed
Okay boomer
Lmao lick a boot
Daily reminder that Billionaires don’t love you, and don’t give a shit about you. Your favorite megacorp doesn’t give a shit about your well-being.
Abusive, arrogant and lazy employers when they suddenly can't just underpay and replace workes anymore:
You guys go to the front page?
Nice try Bezos
Bought account. Has like 10 post/comments, outside of 1 comment and this post hasn’t been active in over 70 days, and seems to have posted mostly video game shit. This is here to stir you up and cause division, seems to be doing it’s job.
Nice try McDonald
That’s not what antiwork is about
i was so worried ab the comment section, but my faith has been restored 😌
Nice b8 m8
Either OP is an employee who feels too entitled and looks down on fellow workers, or an employer who expects 300% performance in exchange for minimum wage. Cringe post
Imagine thinking any kind of large scale employer values you
What the dog doing????
Boomer take
I guess just dont say it on the sub itself because you may be downvoted
Because it's wrong.
This comment section is full of the dumbest shit. If you're lazy and unproductive, don't be surprised when it bites you in the ass.
People out here working 60+ hour weeks just to make ends meet and then go on Reddit to get called lazy feels bad man
Nobody called you lazy. I said "if you're lazy, you get yourself into a situation". The people on this website jump to the wildest conclusions
Holy shit the commies are riled up when you criticize them. Guess that explains the death camps and censorship.
Communism is when minimum wage worker
Ah yes, typical; bad guys are commies.
Here we see a prime example of a 2-dimensional thought process.
bad guys are commies
Historically, communists have been some very bad guys.
From what I know, nazis weren't commies. And they did very bad things during ww2
It is almost like nazis are also bad.
Yeah, but every bad guy doesn't have to be a communist, that was my point. It doesn't work in both ways, just like every square is a rectangle, but not vice versa.
Yeah, but every bad guy doesn't have to be a communist, that was my point.
But they literally didn't say that.
Can you fucking read?
"bad guys are commies" This is what I was referring to. I guess we kinda misunderstood each other, lmao.
Those boots you’re sucking on are being manufactured by the poor, you know
Cringe
"Lazy". You are just a piece of shit.
When did this sub turn leftist?
i already see a bunch of anti work losers here
Yeah screw y’all antiwork lazy f*ckwits
If workers are so easily replaceable, then why are places now struggling to find new hires? You clearly don't know what you're talking about, OP. It isn't about laziness, it's about demanding workers are treated fairly and as human beings
I agree
Bootlickers our here simping for the ultra wealthy
YOU CANT REPLACE ME I WAS THE BEST AT PUTING BOXES IN THE TRUCK EVER!!!!!!!!!!
It's not about being easily replaced, or the nature of the work itself. It's about the relationship between cost of living, productivity, and the stagnation of wages. If a business can't be bothered to value these factors, then they're exploiting the labor of their employees.
Lol i don’t care
Epic
Profit is theft!
/s
Nah
Get off my lawn!
I could jerk off to people talking shit about the American communist movement
The sub is cringe af
procastination is not a talent
Bootlicker meme 👅🥾
The look when the poster realizes the antiwork posters were less replaceable than him.
Capitalists when throwing money at chicken doesn't make burgers (free markit indibisible hand greg orwil 1984)
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Ok bootlicker then why aren’t they getting replaced? There’s literally a shortage of workers.
Ur getting downvoted even tho what u said is 100% true and backed up by facts lmao. These bootlickers man 🤦♂️
I only downvoted him because the "bootlicker" word. If you are trying to make a point then dont insult anyone
It’s meant to be an insult but also a criticism that this person is kissing the boots of those in power without understanding that he has more in common with the same workers he’s criticizing. But I do get more flies w honey tho so maybe I should have said that instead.
Nice try Jeff bezos
I hope this is just a troll post
Commie agenda in action
Musk fanboy detected
Imagine talking about a subreddit that you didn't even look at
There’s unlimited ways to make it in this country if people wanted it bad enough. Yet we crying.
Cooking meth for example
Depends on where you’re trying to make it, yea. Meth would work.
You can tell who exactly is American and who exactly is European or British from the comments. Some people REALLY are raised to have Stockholm syndrome for a system that treats them like shit.
Death is preferable to being European.
True
So many angry commies in comments
How's that bootlicking working out for you? You a billionaire yet?
antiwork people are communists that want America to starve collectively.
14 year old libertarians when their local mom and pop store gets charged with wage theft
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Lmaoo
boooooooo
Brain damage tag is correct on this one...
How many of yall think op is brain-damaged? And not in the fun-loving easy going everyone's #1 fan type.
Because democracy was a mistake
Democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried - Winston Churchill
I am responsible for a genocide - Winston Churchill
I am moderately to extremely attracted to children - Winston Churchill
Such an inspirational speaker
We haven't actually tried democracy yet.
It WaSn’T rEaL dEmOcRaCy Any type of democracy is democracy the difference is it’s not the democracy YOU WANT
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Also read Socrates a bit more widely and you realise he was a genuine fucking dolt. The Theory of the Forms has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever encountered. I’m not taking advice on how to run society from that guy.
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Germany also voted Hitler into power. You can get the wrong result from democracy of course. However, electing tyrants is the exception with democracy, whereas with dictatorships it is the expectation.
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And…?
Pretty fucking well.
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Dude this guys a redditor which means he’s just as smart as Socrates and everyone who’s smart has the same opinions and stances on everything
Jfc get with the program
You don’t need to be as smart as someone to realise they, too, are clueless.
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Ah wow if only plato also happened to write down Socrates’ opinions on democracy as well so we’d not only be making the same point and be on the same side but have a stronger case....
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I was agreeing with you until it became clear you’re not even well versed on the subject matter. Now I realize I’ve gotten myself tied up with two midwits who think they’re smart.
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Least insufferable redditor
Sometimes this site actually has some pretty educated people conversing on it but 80% of the time I throw my hat in the mix I invariably have to remind myself 95% of this site is 12-18 year old children.
While that may be true you are on a shitposting sub. As a rule of thumb you probably shouldn't expect any serious discourse in meme subs lol
Why are people downvoting this? This is 100% true
But it's balanced out with a healthy dollop of capitalism!
Because you shitpost OP. Because you shitpost.
No way
Careful grab a suit for this comment section 🗿🗿
average e621 enjoyer
Then there shouldn't have been a labor shortage
The most entitled far from real life people on there I swear lol
Average redditors getting salty at a meme:
Wendy’s be on one
If your work is worth that much, ask for that much. If not, why is it the employer’s fault? If the pay is shit, say no and look for a decent job; complaining online about those who offer shitty wages while you could’ve spent that time being productive in any other way isn’t helping you get a better life. Complaining is just a waste of time, at least prove that there is a better option instead of simply saying “Yeah, I deserve more than this”.
the concept of anti work aka just a very long term internet strike is a good idea but besides that they need to just work
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This is gold lmao
Whats this cartoon
Conservative chuds when people decide to demand a living wage:
Employers when their shit standards and wages aren't valued by employees.
Tbf they are treated like dirt
Yeah, they are not replaceable, that's the thing.
when ur a teenager who has never paid rent
Employers when nobody wants to work for their shitty company for 13 an hour:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis
minimum wage, minimum effort
Imagine getting salty over a fucking meme
yea thats a whole other problem in america
Love the tankies on here XD
Remember when "being in love with your job" was considered communist? What happened? Oh wait, I know that shit was always just a tool and since the cold war is long gone and no longer makes money the narrative has shifted to something that's more beneficial to the economy
I love all the commies in the comments
sex
No sex before marriage
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