This was so well edited that I thought it was an original deleted scene or blooper.
This was so well edited that I thought it was an original deleted scene or blooper.
These YouTube meme makers are getting too powerful
For a second I thought it might have been like one of the Deadpool promos: a joke outside of the movie promoting the movie.
If you showed me this with no knowledge of the fact YouTube exists I probably would've believed this is an actual leaked/deleted scene.
Honestly though, if you suddenly lost all your inhibitions and had zero social skills you might start acting like Peter when he bonded with the symbiote. That's just a theory I saw online that makes sense.
It was also clearly played for laughs but for some reason people picked THAT out as the straw that broke the camel's back for the movie.
Totally a tangent but it kind of reminds me of the hate for Indy 4 focusing on them "nuking the fridge." Indiana Jones was always batshit; they literally melt Nazi faces with the magic of the covenant in the first (arguably best) movie. Each of those movies has something completely fun and but impossible happening in it but enough people started acting like the new one sucked just because it stretched believability too far and it caught on as a sort of meme.
they literally melt Nazi faces with the magic of the covenant in the first (arguably best) movie.
This is because of the internal logic/external logic argument.
We accept in the film that the Ark exists and has magical powers. It requires a suspension of disbelief but it is one we are willing to make because it's sort of understood that it's not real and is part of the story of the film.
Hiding from a nuke in a fridge isn't some mystical power though, it's just illogical. There's no explanation for it given. It's like if Indie had turned around and used his force powers to stop the rolling boulder, sure you can say "Well the Ark exists so why are you complaining" but it still wouldn't make sense in the film.
Indy also jumps out of a place on an inflatable raft in Temple of Doom which is equally as illogical. Personally, I was okay with that maybe because it was a physical stunt rather than boring CGI so it was more fun to watch.
I have had this argument numerous times with my friends. Simply saying "It's fiction/just a story" doesn't excuse inconsistency or impossibility.
I was playing a tabletop sci-fi/fantasy RPG with some friends and the GM goes to great length to describe a pilgrimage site and the line of pilgrims 40 people wide waiting to get in and how the line stretched to the horizon. Then he says that 1.2 billion (with a b) people visit the site per day. Everyone got upset when I pointed out that it was impossible, saying "It's just a game!", and even more upset when I did the math and found the line of pilgrims would circle the planet multiple times and have to be travelling well over the speed of sound to accomplish that task.
Generally I would agree, but Indy is so pulpy that I don't feel it's out of place.
While you're right, and generally I am on the side that internal consistency is more important than the "it's fiction" argument; unless for some reasons the 1.2 billion number was important to gameplay that's a bad hill to die on and you probably wasted everyone's time arguing over it
Eh I'm completely on the commenter's side for that. It's one thing to have a number that stretches belief.
It's another thing to say there are 1.2 fucking BILLION people that visit a day, with the line dimensions given. That's patently absurd and deserves someone getting shit for that
We were looking for a particular person who was visiting that day, so it was very relevant to the gameplay. It was also facially ridiculous.
Find better friends, simple as that. Fuck people who take the side of conformity vs actually listening to a sound argument. These are people who won't have your back. If I were there I would have agreed with you and asked to come up with a better number.
Gotcha, it's a fair argument to have if it's gameplay relevant, so point to you this round!
The best example of this was the fat dude in GoT. Yeah, dragons exist, but that doesn't mean people magically don't lose weight. It was a mistake, own up.
I think the fridge scene could have worked if they toned it down a bit:
Yeah, I always thought it was weird considering it was one part of the movie that made the most sense. The guy has literally never been cool, he's always been an absolute dweeb. He has no idea how a cool person acts besides anything he's seen in movies, ads, from assholes at school, and so on. So you plant this idea in his head that is completely novel to him - that he is cool, and actually the baddest motherfucker to ever live - and of course he's gonna act like a goofy geek. And his act "works" on fewer women than are disgusted or scared away by him. Plus, as you mentioned, it's shot for comedy specifically.
Damn. Spider-Man 3 gets such a bad rap when it's at least way more entertaining than either Amazing Spider-Man piece of shit.
Damn. Spider-Man 3 gets such a bad rap when it's at least way more entertaining than either Amazing Spider-Man piece of shit.
I didn't even bother with those, even though I really adore Emma Stone. Andrew Garfield's also a great actor, but I just don't know if I liked him for Spiderman. I liked the first Marvel Spiderman sort of. Michael Keaton was great; his role made me think of Raimi's proposed fourth movie with Vulture as the villain (I think John Malkovich was rumored?). I could not get through Far From Home and I am a big Gyllenhaal fan.
I am not crazy about Marvel but I am definitely keeping an eye on Raimi's Dr Strange. Who knows!
The first one is just meh, it's not bad but it just doesn't give you much. The second is an absolute shitshow, drawing from all the worst parts of Spider-Man 3 with literally none of the charm.
We'll have to agree to disagree about the MCU. I'm a big fan, though none of the movies are truly great outside of like, Infinity War itself. But I love this iteration of Spider-Man, can't wait to see NWH. And actually, Raimi taking over Dr. Strange was awful news to me. :P I like Evil Dead 1 and 2, and the Spider-Man movies, but I've hated just about everything else he's ever done. But I'll be seeing it too, I just hope it can please people like you and myself!
I enjoy the newest trilogy, but I am bummed out by the constant attachment to the Avengers. He's only been the friendly neighborhood hero in the first movie, and even then it felt wrong because he already had a Stark suit.
I just want Spider-Man on his own. He can participate in the Avengers stuff, but his solo movies are always marred by something Stark/Avengers related.
Magic is magic, fiction, there was no indication nuclear physics was different in that world, nor that was a scifi super fridge. Big difference. It's why folks can reasonably complain about a game of throne fatass who has been hiking with low access to food for months but not about dragons.
Everything needs to be explained, ark is explained, nuclear bomb proof fridge is not. Dragons are explained, fat traveller is not.
The ark isn't explained though. Up until the very end of the movie, there has been no proof that magic/god/whatever actually exist in the universe of Indiana Jones. Everything up to that point had been physically possible in the real world. Even Indy is skeptical throughout the movie that the ark can actually do anything. Then at the very end we get magic Nazi face melting out of nowhere and no explanation for how in the few minutes left in the movie.
The ark is set up in a narrative sense, but not explained in a logical one. That's the actual difference. Even if we don't know how the ark is magic, or even if it actually is or not, the possibility that it could be is introduced earlier in the movie. Nothing like that happened with the fridge scene, so it seems to come out of nowhere.
The explanation is that magic/god is actually real, further supported by the immortal knight and his holy grail and so forth.
It's magic/god, they acknowledge it after the fact, that's ample explanation in this context. I'm not expecting Tolkien-sequel lore behind it.
Everything needs to be explained
I genuinely hate this. Not everything needs to have a massively developed world with strict rules. Indiana Jones is a goofy franchise, it's ok to have pulpy shit like that in it.
Yes it's goofy, I guess we disagree to the degree of the goofiness. Because for me, I'd expect a fridge vs nuke in Tom and Jerry, not Indiana Jones. But yes, your argument is by far the most compelling and it is a subjective line where there is no right answer. I was never that offended by it tbh, but for what offense I do have I am on the same wavelength with it relating to goofiness.
However, I do disagree agree strict rules, imo everything in every piece of media should be consistent unless deliberately not, I don't think it was in this case. Inconsistency, when not deliberate, is just a mistake or laziness.
In Tenet I learn to forgive inconsistencies because I appreciate making an enjoyable movie with that premise would potentially be impossible, and even if not, might take years more writing and talking to scientists. The movie likely wouldn't exist at all, and I'd rather have fun nonsense than nothing, but that dichotomy is rarely the case outside time travel plots!
I feel like it's fair, honestly. Definitely not a meme.
It's not that it stretched believability, it stretched the suspension of disbelief. The melting faces scene in Raiders was fantasy, but it was a fantasy that made sense within the world the film created. Of course the literal wrath of God would be enough to melt someone's face off!
I was fine seeing a a bat shit crazy sacrifice in ToD, because that cult was established as doing bat shit crazy as a hobby. These guys employ a comically large underground mine while sacrificing people to a magic volcano. I learn that they also rip out still beating hearts, and I just think, "yeah, that tracks."
Indy 4 established its world as one with aliens. It did NOT establish Indy as being able to withstand the physical forces of being flung by an atomic bomb, flying hundreds of feet into the air, and landing an a hard surface, all while locked in a lead coffin - and then walking out no worse for wear. The man isn't superhuman, and that movie went against established expectations and expected the audience to just roll with it without any explanation.
The fridge scene was also atrociously animated, while the Ark face-melting scene was done with awesome practical effects.
Indiana Jones is full of scenes that are more fun than logical and sort of feel like the filmmakers showing us the most fun little vignettes they could think of. For examples in The Last Crusade there's a ridiculous scene where Indy dresses up and pretends to be Scottish nobility to infiltrate a Nazi castle, but as soon as the Nazi doorman expresses slight confusion he gives up the act and punches him. If that was Indy's plan then it renders the whole diguise pointless, so the scene is obviously just the writers having fun and showing off Harrison Ford's slightly hammy Scottish accent. It's fun though and that's the nature of these films which I think people forget.
Isn’t it also directly after MJ breaks up with him for (seemingly) no reason? Up until that point, Peter’s been waffling about using the suit, but after that he goes “y’know what? Fuck it, fuck everything” and leans into it hard. In that context it makes a bit more sense. He’s not just being a dick; deep down he’s hurt and pissed off, so now he’s lashing out by by being as selfish as possible and not giving a fuck.
Unbelievably good editing, goddamn
tobey got folded ngl
Technology is amazing
Spiderman 3 is primarily a Sam Raimi movie, not a superhero movie. It's a shame people hated it, because it's really entertaining.
I do not usually like Marvel movies but I am curiously watching to see how well his Dr. Strange is received. We've missed you, Sam!
The way it handled multiple villains really just didn't work, it was a bit disorganized, but it was a hell of a lot more fun than either Amazing Spider-Man garbage ever was, and I don't care who disagrees, you can crucify me on this hill.
It also has one of the best super villain origins shown in film
You talking sand man? I'll agree with you if you say yes.
Idk about that, though. Most people I talk to say Doc Ock in 2 was better, and I can see where they're coming from. But I'd say Mr. Glass from Unbreakable (but not Glass) was better. Or Walter White; be real, he's definitely a grounded version of a super villain.
Yes, Mr. Sandman. I meant to specify when it comes to comic book movies. There are other instances that are better, I just can't think of any off the top of my head
Personally - and just hear me out on this - I really liked Zemo. I haven't seen FatWS yet so nothing from that, and I've never been into comics so I wasn't disappointed like most of the fans. I thought it was awesome that an essentially normal dude could get these heroes to fight each other like that, without even doing much himself. It feels like a great portrayal of how easy it is for anybody to be manipulated. If it's worse than sand man, it's only for how little screen time he got.
It might not necessarily be better all things considered, but I think Mordo is pretty compelling. I really like the idea that there's this guy who was so dedicated to order and hierarchy, then some absolute newb came out of nowhere and shattered his world view to the point that he's going out and tearing everything down. It reminds me of how I felt when I left the mormon cult. Like, your entire perspective shifts and you just want to lash out to make everything make sense again.
But yeah nah sand man is pretty dope. That shit made me feel things I didn't think I'd ever feel from a superhero movie back then.
I've seen people make comments like this a lot but while Raimi definitely has his own style I'm not sure it's consistent enough to chalk it up to that. Raimi isn't like a Tarantino where he has a distinct style that's fairly consistent so you know what you're in for, his style is way more freeform. I mean compare Evil Dead (the original) the Evil Dead 2 to Army of Darkness to the Evil Dead tv series, they're very different in tone and style. And that's within a single series/universe. For me his stuff is really all over the place, sometimes it works great sometimes it's a complete disaster and I'm not entirely convinced Raimi knows which it will be until it's done.
I like how its still Tobey sayin' "see ya chump"
The joke itself is about a 5/10 but the execution is like a 11/10. God damn that’s good editing
Tell me it's just an edit
frik that's smoothly done. had to scrub through frame by frame to figure it out
What does it look like a bad screenshot from Grand Theft Auto online new skins?
Lmao made my day
Lmao, my first thought was JonkariP and I was right. Insane editor.
Ryan Reynolds did it better but this is some great editing!!
Ryan Reynolds had Ryan Reynolds though. This guy only had a red bull and a computer.
Hell, we aren't even sure about the red bull.
Come on... we know it was blow
/r/unexpected
Man the Raimi suit just looks the best by a country mile. It's too iconic.
That editing is next level.
Yeah what is that footage of emo Parker falling back? Is that from the movie?
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I think it's really good CGI / 3D models, you can see the face change as Pete falls.
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Going frame by frame you can see suddenly the coat changes to the 3d model but the crazy thing is the face is still peter parkers. Then after the head tilts back and shows up again its now clearly a generic 3d model face. I have absolutely no clue as to how he did that first head tilt back keeping the face.
I think you're right, it's the same as when they switch with a stunt double. If the double was standing still it would stick out but when they're moving it's less noticeable. Clever to use CGI for that here.
Green screen or he made a Toby model and textured & rigged it.
Toby model, you can see that the head is very CGI.
It looks like he made a 3D model
EDIT: https://ibb.co/3v2rQ6W
They fully recreated him as a 3D model then animated it.
Deec
Most of Jonkari P's edits are brilliant
he made a video explaining how he made. He made a full 3d rig of Parker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZAFKMOjJ34