oh, man... if you've never heard of rob scallon, then you should look him up immediately.
enough said.
oh, man... if you've never heard of rob scallon, then you should look him up immediately.
enough said.
Yes, this. He has a great passion (and talent) for music and instruments. I loved his video with Brandon Acker
Rob's childlike glee and enthusiasm is 90% of why I love his content
I showed the photo of the theorbo last time I was at my local music shop picking up a new bass, they loved it
"How long are his arms?!"
He also just seems like a genuinely kind and fun person
I never knew I needed a shovel guitar until I watched Rob Scallon!
[Shovel guitar, shovel guitar, let's all play the shovel guitar](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/6504f636-a133-4686-b447-b48890bb66e8/gif)
Ever seen [Justin Johnson] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9-ltPsbw9g) play his shovel?
Djazz!
Met a little shorty down in New Orleans and she makes me feel like
DEATH
His series with the pipe organ is my fav
The carillon is right up there. Same with ballpark organist.
The organ and carillon videos are the only reason I know about him.
I went to check out Rob and discovered that I was already subscribed. I was like, "Oh, this guy!" đ
Rob scallon, Andrew Huang oh so good
IT'S THE FIRST OF OCTOBEEEERR
Ravioli, ravioli give me the formuoli! Nowwwwwwww
I guess I got downvoted because people are apparently unclear that this is part of the first of october second album.
Some people have no class, don't let em get you down
Their video where they played the OP-1 together literally made me get one.
I looked up his name soon after I read your comment. Wow. This is beautiful music. Thank you.
Bought his Vinyl a while back and play it when ever I'm really stressed to calm me down.
What album?? I might just buy it today
It is his Anchor EP. Just amazing music really.
Frippâs âA Show of Handsâ comes to mind. He lines up a dozen or so acoustic guitarists and they go full on different time signature out of sync in sync super precision crazy train.
This also reminds me a lot of jean baudin
Hes so fucking sick. Nuclear rabbit is fucking awesome
yep recognized him immediately!
Same with Andrew Huang and Red means Recording!
Which YouTube video would you say to watch first for someone like me who hasn't seen or heard of him?
metal in inappropriate places pt 1 qnd pt2 moving to any of the documentaries on the channel.
he is a fucking LEGEND
lol, def doing that now. that was amazing
Wow the take they nailed was significantly longer than the one in the tiktok. I thought they just wanted to get that short excerpt of it down. That was amazing.
That was worth 10 minutes â I never heard of this guy before, but he and his friends all seem like super chill dudes.
Full video was soooo much better than the clip above. Thanks for the link.
That was truly incredible. Thanks for sharing.
Such a pretty song.
That was a lot of time and effort (aka money) to play in a round when they couldâve just used one microphone and stood 5-15 feet apart from the person in front of them (old Quincy Jones trick).
Thank goodness the intellectual superiority brigade showed up to let me know my thoughts are wrong.
I mean they could have just used a delay pedal too I donât think the point was to be economical
The novelty is the point silly rabbit
Looks like theyâre making the money back off of the video so thatâs dope.
Yes this is how money works
Which part, the part where it costs money to create media or the part where views on the monetized content generates revenue?
Yup
Haven't you heard that efficiency is the point of art?
Wow. You explained how risk and profit work. Good job.
bof
He actually wanted to become a pancake any second
And they could have used a delay pedal like the song was originally played, or had them play separately and line up the tracks, or just offset the same track.
But the entire fucking point dipshit is the challenge of creating the effect without any trickery, just by having 3 guitars and their echos playing delayed
Wow ur so tuff n smrt how u do it
Lol
You lose sound quality and by a lot the farther they are from a microphone.
(Kind of like real delay)
Okay but having 3 guitars with great mic placement gives the sound a full, crisp sound.
Thatâs not what delay is.
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Why is this man wearing a rimmed beanie lmao
I think itâs an inline skater thing. Rob being an avid inline skater and all
Immediately reminded me of The Fall of Troy - F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X. Doing it without a reverb/echo delay is super impressive.
2005 just kicked my door down
Screams in botchla
With a guitar hero/rockband guitar. I forget which one
Guitar Hero 3
Front to back banger of an album
Manipulator is great too, but I love how raw and chaotic Doppelganger sounds (same with the self-titled album)
Manipulator has some great doom breakdowns which is so nice.
I love a man. a plan. A canal. Panama...
Next month they are playing the Doppelgänger album in full if you live in Texas or the Los Angeles area
1) amazing handle. Animals as Leaders are my shit.
2) I live in west TX. Iâm gonna look into that.
Ooh, where in Texas
It reminded me of "The Afterman" by Coheed and Cambria. It has a pretty similar sound
Somehow that album used to put my kid to sleep when he was a baby. He would be out within a song or two.
Is he now a scene kid?
RaWR xD
COME RUNNING HOME, COME RUNNING HOME
Yes! They're from my area, thought it was cool when they ended up on guitar hero
No one ever knows the Fall of Troy when I bring it up. I really like their newer albums too (OK and Mukiltearth).
Personally, I like FCPSITSGEPGEPGEP better /s
According to Wikipedia, that song's title (F.C.P.S.I.T.S.G.E.P.G.E.P.G.E.P.) stands for: Fuck Condoms, Pre-Marital Sex is the Shit - Get 'em Pregnant, Get' em Pregnant, Get 'em Pregnant
Itâs just a fan title theyâve never actually said what it is
Historic record
This is one of the greatest albums ever and Iâm so glad to have heard it
Same here. woah.
You just gave me the fattest Guitar Hero 3 flashbacks and I'm here for it
Rob Scallon is awesome, and this is fantastic.
I can't even imagine how hard it must have been for the other two to play like that.
An easyish solution would be to have offsync metronomes in each player's sound isolating headphones. Doing it without that must be incredibly hard.
That's what they did! If you haven't watched it's a super good video and one of my favourite songs from Rob.
https://youtu.be/MNzBFgwkU0A
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That sounds like the same thing but with extra steps.
And a lot less precision.
Right? I think the intent was to attempt to play delay without effects or gadgets. If youâre gonna induce a delay with technology you might as well use a pedal.
You wouldnât necessarily want a pedal. That just plays exact. What theyâre doing is more akin to overdubbing guitars which gives different imperfections in the playing and ultimately sounds different. So they could still do it differently like you said.
Oooh la la. Someoneâs gonna get laid in college.
This is a dotted rhythm delay, a lot further spaced than a few ms.
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Theyâre playing a pre-existing song with actual delay settings, though, they could do it with natural Bluetooth delay but it wouldnât have been accurate for the song
Why on earth would you go through all that effort and be at the whim of the bluetooth delay when you could much easily and more precisely use the offsync metronome idea?
Musical timing is a lot more precise than that. You can't just rely on the latency of a Bluetooth monitor to provide the appropriate timing structure of a song.
Yeah doing it next to each other is just stupid
As someone who doesn't know shit about music, what's going on here that's challenging? Sorry if that's a stupid question...
So thereâs this thing called delay. Itâs an effect people put on an electric guitar. Thereâs unlimited ways to configure the effect but generally when you play a note, it plays the note back to you once a little quieter, and then again the next beat a little quieter and so on until it decays so you canât here it. You can tweak the effect on how quickly it decays (how many times it will play the note back to you) and how long the delay is (whether you want the notes repeated back to you a beat later, half a beat later, four beats later etc).
In this video they are playing Robs song ârainâ which uses that effect. But instead of doing it digitally, they are recreating the effect acoustically. So theyâe all playing the same guitar part but at slight delays to give it this effect. But if you can hear the other player, itâs really hard not to get distracted and skip a note to be on beat with them. Thus why they are wearing nice headphones and âplaying to a clickâ meaning they all have a metronome in their ear that can try to stay on beat with. But each of their metronomes are staggered so if they all stay on beat the guy in front will be playing the main melody and the two guys behind him will be playing the quieter first and second note of the delay.
I saw this video a while ago, but I think the main thing is that even though they have a delayed metronome in their ear, they can also hear what the other people are doing. It is VERY FRIGGIN HARD to disregard one rhythm in favor of another one when you can hear both, especially when they're only delayed by a tenths or hundredths of a second. That desire to synch up is so strong!
Not just delayed but a dotted delay. Instead of waited for the next 1/4 note (aka the beat you would clap to) it's a 1/4 and an additional 1/8. So if the quarter notes are 1 2 3 4 you have to play your â1â between 2 and 3 and the third guys starts his 1 on 4
This makes my brain itchy.
I've been playing guitar for 15 years and it still makes my head hurt, it's not important in the overall process though!
I know plenty of musicians that can't wrap their head around music theory but can play the fuck out of their instruments. Especially drummers, none of the drummers I know ever read music lol
Thatâs just 3/8 notes though. Itâs not that difficult. It donât understand why they donât just record it and loop it though.
At that point, they might as well just use the effect pedal. The whole idea was to do it live without effects.
Because this is cooler.
That's exactly what the album version of the song is. He just wanted to do it without one for a neat video.
They are all playing the same pattern, but starting at different times, a beat and a half apart. Here is what they're playing
1st guy: 1---2---3---4---1---2---3---4---------------
2nd guy: ------1---2---3---4---1---2---3---4---------
3rd guy: ------------1---2---3---4---1---2---3---4---
It's really hard to not accidentally sync up with one of the other players.
They need to git gud, we were all singing 'Row, Row, Row your boat' at age five.
that's way easier because it's not a dotted rhythm. The second person comes in on the 1 of the second measure in Row Row Row Your Boat, as opposed to halfway between the 2 and 3 of the first measure in this.
1st guy: 1--2--3-a4--1-a2-a3-----
2nd guy: ------------1--2--3-a4--
also, playing a quick guitar part is a lot harder than singing a slow nursery rhyme
When we (that's anyone with a feel for rythm) hear a sound sequence, our brain tries to immediately sync up, so in this case of 3 people playing exactly the same melody, the instinct would be to synchronize so they'd all play the same note at the same time. Offsetting that timing by a fraction of a beat is incredibly difficult and I'd even say next to impossible to pull off if you actually hear the other players. Offsetting by one of multiple full beats would still be hard but way easier in comparison.
There's a huge amount of concentration going on because they are not playing at the same time. They are all entering at different moments and a minimal error can be easily distinguished.
Idk if anyone answered the actual question, but they're mimicking delay, which means they're all playing the same song, just one slightly after the other, to create an echo effect of the song. This is usually done digitally.
Basically they are deliberately challenging themselves to do the exact opposite of what they have trained for for years. Usually in music you want to be completely in synch, perfectly together, and on a shared beat. (Taking your comment that you don't know shit literally. The beat is basically that moment you tap your foot when you tap your foot along with the music.)
Here they are all on very slightly different beats. (Tapping their feet at different times in effect.) And are trying to REMAIN on slightly different beats despite years of practice telling them to get on beat with each other as quickly as possible.
It's really freaking hard. I suspect they would have an easier time of it if they were drummers by training instead of guitar (Especially if they ever did a bass drum line, this sort of thing is their bread and butter)
To add to what others have said, you cant just go completely noise isolating and have no issues because you lose the sound of your own instrument with an acoustic guitar like they used which makes it harder to stay on beat and play the right notes.
So they either have to lose their own sound or hear some of everyone else's
Have u ever sang along to a song with someone who doesnât know the lyrics properly? Itâs like that
https://youtu.be/5v5eBf2KwF8
This is basically what your brain does too when you hear stuff.
Music is basically linked to timing. An overall beat syncs different musicians together to play a song. These guys are trying to play a song on 3 different offset beats at the same time.
Imagine trying to recite a poem in rhythm with two other people. It's very easy, if not simply natural, to sync up and say everything in unison. Now imagine that one person starts the poem, the second one has to keep the EXACT same rhythm and cadence and mirror everything they do, but a quarter of a second later. Now add a third person doing the exact same thing another quarter of a second behind that. Now imagine that the poem takes three minutes to recite in full and everyone has to do it perfectly or it all falls apart. How everyone keeps focus on their own task and rhythm while still holding precisely to their own designated time slot is what is so difficult here.
Reminds me intensely on Evan Dobson - Time 2. Acoustic Trance
Reminds me of this classic https://youtu.be/mZZp76M4NGc
which reminded me of 1200 Micrograms - Rock Into The Future (originally released in 2004)
Dope
I was thinking the same thing! Somehow this comes back into my life every year. Such a great song.
Yeah same. It looks so damn simple and easy to play. But it isn't. I tried. And failed
Genuinely thank you for the 30 minutes I spent listening to some of his stuff. Don't know how I haven't heard of him before!
Oh my god, thank you. It was driving me crazy that it sounded like something and I couldn't think of it.
The whole time I thought they were trying to cover this exact song (or the first part) and I was really confused when I saw the title for the song "Rain"
Wow! Someone who knows about Evan Dobson! I'm out of awards sorry friend!
Eh, my first thought was Estas Tonne.
Which in turn sounds like Big Sur Moon by Buckethead.
This reminded me of Big Sur Moon by Buckethead
Pretty much all of Colma has that amazing acoustic guitar with effects on it
Can Apple make this an alarm? Because I would much rather wake up to this then then copious death sirens they currently offer
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I quit Apple some years ago, but when I had one changing a tune was like a 10-20 minute investment to understand the convoluted Apple way. Is it still like that?
Nah. You can pick songs straight from the alarm settings now.
Is this only from the tracks in the music app or can you use a song from the files app too?
I think it has to be from the music app. But you can use CopyTrans to put your own music on there.
Thanks!
Then over time youâll grow to hate this song.
Iâve listened to the Home Depot song every morning as my alarm for over a year and I still love it
I use the kill bill whistle
https://youtu.be/S32X5-eKVp4
If you have songs downloaded from iTunes on your phone, you can choose one of them instead of one of the preset alarms.
That's a cold diss
If you have Apple Music, search for Rain by Rob Scallon, thatâs the song. You can set it as your alarm
I already hate this song just from picturing it as a morning alarm
Relevant strings by Johnny Greenwood (time stamp is about 9:06, but YT wonât let me add it to the link):
https://youtu.be/WynE3lD_Dc8
Thatâs incredible. That soloists violin tone is stunning.
Yâall should open for Rodrigo and Gabriella
Shit haven't thought of them in a while. I remember friends showing me videos of them doing like Stairway and shit. Saw them at a big festival in Baltimore too. All my friends went to go watch the fuckin Offspring đ I stayed and watched the entire R y G set
In defense of your friends, the Offspring is fucking rad, too.
Could not disagree more 𤡠kids Aren't Alright is their only cool song.
Agree to disagree, I love both The Offspring and R&G.
Thatâs not very fly of you
Gabriella is great!
Ayy the Robert Fripp nice
Similar concept in King Crimson's Frame By Frame. 2 guitars playing slightly different time signatures.
That's exactly what song I was thinking of! Also at the beginning of Neal and Jack and Me
Rob Scallonâs YT channel has been fucking amazing for years now, if you love guitar then definitely get subbed
The guys who made the amazing djazz song I love lol
See Steve Reich et al, hocket, canon, etc.
Some links for those who would scroll this far :
I cant believe you left out the King of Minimalism's most minimal minimalism!
Clapping Music (with a neat visual aid)
Oh that's neat. I love Steve Reich, I listen. To 18 musicians/Daniel Variations almost every night, but there are some pieces of his that I don't love for certain reasons. This has renewed my interesting in clapping music.
Oh that's neat. I love Steve Reich, I listen to 18 musicians/Daniel Variations almost every night, but there are some pieces of his that I don't love for certain reasons. This has renewed my interest in clapping music.
Yes! Came here for this. Here is a version of Piano Phase played by a single person
Hearing this piece live is amazing
Upvotes for Steve Reich!!!
No no. Reich was infinitely more interesting than this.
I know, and still is. Nice guy, too.
It was amazing guys
Did you not even notice you all showed up wearing the same outfit? How embarrassing must that have been
I hope the salesperson got a bonus for managing to sell 3 of those hats
Rob scallon taught me how to rollerblade when I was a kid
this reminds me of the abandoned "Household Objects" project by Pink Floyd and why they abandoned it. The idea was that instead of using regular instruments, they would use household items to create the music. It was eventually abandoned, and as David Gilmour said, "why spend hours in the studio trying to make a rubber band sound exactly like a bass guitar when you can just use a bass guitar".
I feel like this video is the same: why spend hours trying to create a delay effect "naturally" when a delay pedal creates the exact same sound at the press of a button and turn of a dial. Theyre not creating something different, theyre just creating the same ol' delay effect everyone's heard before but in an extremely unnecessarily laborious way.
Itâs for entertainment purposes they arenât trying to refine the industry. They did it to see if they could do it and how hard it would be
Practicality aside, it's not the exact same sound as a delay pedal. The other players will sound a bit different from the main player due to variation in playing, making it sound richer than just having a delay pedal repeating the notes. This is why people double track instead of just copy pasting the one track to another.
Double tracking is indeed so that the tracks are ever so slightly different, however it's not just because it makes it sound richer it's because if you're layering, or doing things like hard panning the two tracks left and right, if you just duplicate the audio it will have no effect at all (double stack the same track reduce volume, back to square one, same as hard panning), so you need the sources to be at least a little bit different.
It doesn't necessarily mean multiple takes either, for example you can use the techniques with different enough recordings of the same take (e.g. one track of acoustic guitar recorded through a mic and one through an integrated pickup).
Because its don't acoustically it isn't perfect like a delay pedal would be, they're inherently different.
More poignantly, I think this was just to see if they can, not because they needed to. The original song is done with a delay because that's just way more logical
But it is, because they all are playing to slightly delayed click tracks. Otherwise, whatâs the point of using the headphones? Without a click track would make sense taking 59 takes to me.
why spend hours trying to create a delay effect "naturally" when a delay pedal creates the exact same sound at the press of a button and turn of a dial.
Because these people are entertainers, and sometimes doing something just for the entertainment value is worth it. They need content, and it's fairly unique.
I would think that if they continue, they could vary the effect in complex ways that would be hard to achieve on a computer. Because you'd have to manually alter the timing of every single note of it's two echoes, their manual method of three players would be easier.
Your statement is the same as asking why play an acoustic guitar when you can achieve the same effect with midi software.
-or taken to the extreme: why should anyone care about Usain Bolt's fastest running when anyone can go faster in a car.
Absolutely not. You can adjust delay parameters in a DAW along the timeline so it modulates to exactly what you want exactly when and where you want it to. It's as easy as a click of the mouse.
You can change the entire delay with an easy click. But you'd have to click the mouse for every echo note. There are human players so each note of the echo is unique. There is no way you can click and give a unique timeshift to 2 notes faster than two people playing individual notes in real time.
It's the same as playing a complex piece on the piano versus arranging those same notes in a midi program. There is a reason keyboards are standard for all computer generated composing. It's faster to hit ten notes simultaneously on a keyboard than click ten times on the screen.
So yes you could do it with a computer, but would take more time to get the nuance of the individual three players.
Again this is about matching the uniqueness of the hand played instruments, not applying a singular echo effect. If it was one instrument in a room that created an echo, then a computer could easily create the exact same effect with less effort. But because there are three players, their timing are going to be slightly off which can only be matched by hand editing each and every note played.
As to my second point, do you think the Olympics are similarly stupid because all those athletic achievements are more easily accomplished with machines?
Not true. Keeping the delay musical means it's locked into the grid as well. Eighth note, quarter note, dotted quarter, etc. All exist for specific millisecond intervals determined by the tempo of the song. You can set delays to feedback into themselves and repeat as little or many times as you want.
You can run multiple delays at the same time set to different intervals. If you're asking a performer to adjust the rate they're playing in real time you're going to get a whole lot of errors and needs to retry (hence them needing 60 takes while trying to isolate each other's sound, and they were just doing a simple, constant delay interval).
It's not the same as playing 10 notes on a piano vs clicking them on a midi chart. It's an effect added in production or post production. It's impressive to do it organically without any effect (though there is added reverb and compression in the recording, so it's not free of effects). But acoustically emulating an effect isn't more beneficial musically. They're not creating harmony or counterpoint. It's just a "hey, let's see if we can do this" kinda thing. Which again, is cool and impressive. But an absolute head scratcher from a production standpoint.
Also for nuance, it's mostly lost on an average listener as any variance in attack is easily masked by the new note coming in a fraction of a second later.
Not true.
It sounds like echo because it is played with precision but it isn't. Each note played has 2 additional notes that are played all with unique timing.
You cannot automate unique timing. The other two musicians aren't playing exact millisecond intervals because they are human.
You can set delays to feedback into themselves and repeat as little or many times as you want.
Each note is uniquely timed because it is played by a human, not a machine. It's close to perfect but isn't. That's what gives live music character.
It's an effect added in production or post production.
Yes, I already said that. But when done manually it adds variance in the timing of each and every note because they are human, not a wall or computer creating an echo.
Also for nuance, it's mostly lost on an average listener
Yes, but it is there and can't be created with a single mouse click as you claim.
Yeah. That's how come they did it this way, cause the other way builds no gyitar plating skills.
Why listen to live performances at all instead of studio recordings? This is a form of performance art.
If they wanted the same effect, they could have just recorded dry, then replayed the recording in the room on a reasonably neutral speaker, and re-recorded the wet track from the room.
They could also have just used earplugs, or even IEMs.
Heck, they could have recorded a room impluse, and got a perfect recreation of the reverb profile.
The fun/challenge was "doing it live" so to speak.
Theyâre all matching so cute
That's the point, they're all playing the same thing too
I don't get it it just sounds like 3 guys playing acoustic guitar...
They're all playing the same thing, slightly delayed from one another, which is agonizingly difficult to do. They're recreating a delay effect, but without using any effects pedals.
It's 3 guys playing the same melody with perfect timing, hitting every note and accent perfect, so that it sounds like 1 guitar with 2 perfect echoes. That's fuckin hard. It's like those dance groups that are in perfect sync with each other, it takes a lot of practice.
Same here. Confused before the answer to your question.
This is actually incredibly difficult. Playing a similar melody one beat behind someone is genuinely one of the hardest challenges you can be thrown while playing in any accompaniment piece.
I'm not saying it's easy I guess I'm just not hearing the effect they're going for. Just sounds like rodrigo y Gabriela or similar. It's good and talented don't get me wrong
I assume itâs not as easy to do on an instrument as it is in singing?
I'm with you, i just don't know enough about music production to appreciate what's going on here. Like what would it sound like without the echo? How is it different than, as you said, just 3 guys playing acoustic guitar?
Same. I don't hear any delay or whatever. Maybe if they just had one player for comparison it'd be more obvious.
At the end you can hear the massive room have more delay than whatever they seemed to do...
Row row row your boat
Makes me want to sing Temper Tantrumâs Sweeeeeeeeettttttt DisssssssspositionâŚ!
Had to do the same thing with "Row row row your boat" when I was in 2nd grade.
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Go literally just throw a tick tock sticker on anything these days and act like it came from there Jesus people go to YouTube
What are you so heated about lmaoo
Well it's still is Rob zcallon tiktok so idk
Or you know. The person who created this posted this to multiple social media platforms. It was posted by the guy in the video on his own TikTok. Itâs not like someone stole it and put it on their TikTok. You got some serious angry boomer energy going on my man. Itâs a really lovely video, no need to get upset. Tick Tock. Lol
You got some serious angry boomer energy going on my man.
I feel like this night be unfair to boomers!
Lol. We all age. Tiktok.
It literally did come from there. It's one of the creators TikTok.
Lmao this came out on YouTube before til tok was made shit eyes
Does that change the fact that the creator chose to condense his own YouTube video down into a shorter format? Are you actually upset that the creator posted their own content on another platform for the sake of reaching more people?
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Literally throw up things because words are too easy for you.
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YouTube good Tik Tok bad?
You do realize Rob Scallon (the guy in the video) is the one who re-uploaded it to tiktok right?
Beautiful, really
This is called phasing, and if you're impressed by this, you'll love Steve Reich. Start with Music for 18 Musicians.
Edit: apparently I'm getting downvoted because you all thought I was talking about the phaser effect. Which I was not. I am talking about the composition technique of phasing, which is exactly what this is.
https://youtu.be/Jqoieg0Vqag
Lotta /r/confidentlyincorrect under this comment. Yes, a phaser effect is typically doing a very very tiny and varying delay, but you're talking about Phase Music which is exactly what you said it is, is very relevant to this performance, and sounds super cool. Even something as simple as Clapping Music ends up sounding quite interesting and complex.
How about a nice rondeau or fugue, would that be more like the video?
This effect is called a delay. A phaser effect almost does the same thing but in much smaller time increments and sounds completely different. Source: I've been a music producer for 14 years
You are talking about the phase effect. I am talking about phase music. You have no idea what you're talking about.
I was not aware of the genre by that name, thanks for introducing me. There's no need to be hostile though. First you tell me that I am talking about the effect I'm talking about and then you go ahead and tell my I have no idea what I'm talking about... Make up your mind.
Even crazier is Reich's Piano Phase
phasing happens when an identical signal is delayed a couple of milliseconds, it would never work with two different takes
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More, aww, theyâre wrong but tried to tell us something interesting.
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What have you done that is like this?
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Thereâs really no reason behind it other than just to say you did it
Because it takes talent and patience to do this. Musicians like to challenge themselves.
They should challenge themselves into making decent music
Why is this so fucking hilarious. It's one piece of a song dawg.
Why?
For fun, and to show off some talent. This type of accompaniment is famously one of the most difficult challenges as a musician, and they're doing it with three players. Extremely impressive.
People challenge themselves to prove their own talent, and other people (clearly not you) can appreciate that
Eat a snack if you're hungry
That's not entirely true. Different reverbs and delays are gonna sound different based on how those effects are generated. Rob did this as challenge, and it's impressive by itself, but it sounds way different to how he plays it live.
Reverbs are different depending on how they're generated. Plate reverbs for example, not gonna sound the same as spring or digital or whatever. There's always a point. (This video showcases delay not reverb, just making a point here).
But the point of this video: can we? Yes we fucking can.
And it's awesome.
I see you have also seen Robs other video about reverb devices
Because it sounds amazing, and is utterly impressive. As a professional musician, I can immediately relate to the difficulty, and understand the immense focus and skill involved in creating such a work of art.
Just because you donât know how hard it was to get to the moon doesnât mean itâs less meaningful, it simply shows your lack of perspective. These guys are supremely skilled musicians and I am glad I got to witness this!
If I could just get on a train to the moon without having to pilot a spaceship I would do that!
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Some one got a lot of up votes saying the same. They were sincere instead apathetic. But the point stands for the acoustic Edge-like riff.
If this interests you check out Fractalia performed by 3rd Coast Percussion. It's a 4 person percussion ensemble and the piece works on a similar way creating a natural reverb.
Amazing, I can see hearing this tune play while looking out a rainy window with beams of sun breaking through the clouds.
Getting shot looks like it sucks
Rob is the man
In choral music I believe this is called a "round" it's pretty stunning to hear performed. Recommend listening to Ingrid Michaelson's "The Chain" to hear it in action.
Rounds don't usually repeat so close together, though. I think they're all a beat apart, and rounds are usually at least a bar apart.
The setup, matching outfits, and the outtakes really make this really a fun production to watch. And the ending is really cool.
Now that is music!
wow i used to watch Rob a looong time ago
Amazing
Wow wow wow. That was magic. Wow.
It's really beautiful and a nice way to exercise playing together, I can imagine. I'll stick to delay though
Well done
âNot quite my tempoâ
That is pretty neat
If you like this check out California Guitar Trio.
Rob Scallon rocks. Watch this dude every day.
That would Make for a Great EDM SONG
Using clones doesn't count as special effects?
Rob scallon really is like a cartoon character always wearing the same clothes
I like raquetball too.
I donât know anything about music so can someone explain the advantage of doing this live rather than overlaying tracks or even easier using a plug in effect. Is this just like guitar porn and itâs crazy they did it or is there a real music reason?
There isn't really an advantage. They probably did it this way as a challenge, because this is deceivingly difficult
Totally reminds me of 90âs Donkey Kong Country music.
https://youtu.be/sOEs38McXPQ
You think this is hard try playing racketball in a music studio.
Lil UK mom is alive and well
Did they make this harder on themselves by doing it an echo-y room?
Their headphones are pretty noise cancelling so they can focus on the metronome they each have to play off of. The echoy room was used because the song is normally played with a reverb pedal, which tries to emulate to sound of playing in an echoy room in the first place.
Using a classical guitar in the back to mimic the way delay effects roll off the high end was GENIUS as well. Rob Scallon is one of my favourite people on the internet
just do what armin kĂźpper did: play it beside a pipeline
U2âs Edge weeps in digital delay.
Reminds me of Ewan Dobson. Or as I consider him, Raiden playing guitar
Getting a 120 is actually pretty impressive.
Can't wait to see it live on stage.
Can I download this song from somewhere??
Steve Reich has entered the chat
Nice. Very nice
What a beautiful gift we have, musicâ¨
Here is the full Video:
Shrooms are kicking in
Rob scallion, the man who for some reason worked on nostalgia critic's the wall parody
Sounds like a good ringtone
grabs acoustic pick up grabs cheap delay pedal khaby lame face.jpeg
This must take a lot of concentration
Is this just called a round? Your start playing a few beats after the first person. You learn how to do this in like fifth grade
It's pretty easy when it's something like row row row your boat which is only a handful of notes that round after a full phrase, and the phrases are short. This is playing a more complex piece with each player only a note and a half behind. If one person slows or speeds up just a little bit it sounds way off, and since almost every musician ever doesn't have perfect timing it's easy to slip up.
Idk man we had entire peices that did this in not just one but 3 sections at a time so like half the flutes start then the clarinets then the other half of the flutes and so on. That took maybe a day this is 3 guys playing one track, you just have to count and know your part
makes me think of this video about Radiohead and their song Videotape. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_IHotHxIl8
I should mention, I dont know jack about playing music, but still really interesting.
Now do it live at every show!
This is such a great idea for advertisement. He could've easily released the song using just a pedal, but doing something like this gives it a chance to take off on social media
It's one of his more popular songs that he normally plays with a reverb and delay, but did it this way for a video on his youtube channel
Totally worth it.
Sounds great!
Goosebumps
Woah dude
What's the song/ group name?
Rain - Live & Acoustic by Rob Scallon (00:09; matched: 100%)
Album: Rain (Live & Acoustic). Released on 2018-02-25 by 554972 Records DK.
Incidentally, here's the full video I found on YouTube
Contortionist vibes right here SON
Ive watched this 60 times soooo gooood
Go Badger!
Sadly it suck
When a man a women love each other they lower their delay time, increase feedback and increase release. This is how life is created.
Whatâs the artist?
Holy shit, that was incredible.
Serious question!! How do I get this as a ringtone?!
Iâll be back in a bit, def wanna hear it with my headphones
Now do it live in front of 40,000 fans.
Didnât sound like delay to me
Thats cool. But a lot of time into something hard to reproduce
Why couldnât you record it 3 separate times and just delay the sound clip?
Everything coming from tiktok
Why is this song so popular for him? It sucks.
that's really cool but honestly if it sounds just as good without the struggle, then why not just make something that sounds just as good the easy way? i love music but as long as something sounds good it doesn't always have to be complicated to be cool.
Can you play Brighton Rock?
Electric acoustic and connect to an amp itâs that simple.
My favorite alarm to wake up to every morning is anything made by Rob Scallon
Imagine if classical musicians just had two other people play the piano or something and came up with songs that way
Idk those microphones donât look acoustic to me
I heard Jared Dines said this was fake ?
This is something Iâve never seen done before. Very cool. Thank you.
Is this in spotify yet? Dope sounds
That is truly very impressive
Just buy a delay pedal dude...
But why
I love racquetball
This song reminds me of a very different summer I once had..
Isn't that really old?
Amazing
bro just use delay
It'd be less of an accomplishment but can't you just add delay to your IEM and play along? You're not technically using delay for the music itself and it'd be easier to replicate for something like a live show.
No really. They have metronomes that are on a delay but they reason it's so hard is because they can still hear each other playing. Hearing the actual song delayed would be the same thing but likely much harder to identify what the correct timing is than with just your own personal metronome.
Sure, but I think they did this more as a challenge and a display of talent.
Tik tok
On the clock
Or ..ya know.. use a delay pedal
The song was originally recorded with one guitar and a delay pedal. The whole point of this video is that theyâre trying to recreate the song without a delay pedal.
When filming Marathon Man, Dustin Hoffman stayed awake for three days to get in character for one scene. When his costar, Laurence Olivier, heard this, he asked âhave you tried acting?â
Feels like thereâs a comparison to be made here.
I wonder if they used effects
Oh yeah they 100% did, hence why the entire point of the video was to play Robâs song, which originally uses a lot of reverb and obviously delay, without actually using any of those effects and achieving them manually
I guess the /s was needed after all.
Fuckin tiktok "my friends and I" like they even know how to play Rain
who's going to tell him?
Why though?
Same. It's like they have a lot of free time.
Yeah right, a lot of free time spent on a technical and acrobatic feat that takes hundreds of hours to perfect. All just for the end result of a truly unique performance unlike anything else as well as a display of technical mastery. What losers, they should get a job
I never said that they're losers - it's your suggestion. My thoughts why they need to invest many hours in a thing that technology already solved for us and can be done by a couple of clicks in audio-mixer software? To show something unique â there is nothing unique in their performance. To get hype to show their outstanding technique, get recognition â youtube full of way more amzing amazing performances.
You sound like you're real fun at parties
Damn this cool gimmick and 59 takes for one video, AND I still still don't give a single shit now will I ever listen to your music again
Instead if wasting time on 59 takes and "look ma no effects" use the effect, save the time, and then put that extra time into writing better shit
Bruh it's just an experiment
Yeah cause they did all this just to impress you specifically. Get your head out of your ass.
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They donât even know you exist
This seems utterly pointless to me.
Cool stuff but did you know itâs been done centuries. First example what comes in mind is Bach choir compositions
Why didn't they just record them separately
Or just do three take and move each one over a beat?
This is pretty cool but couldnât you also just place 3 microphones further away than the last and achieve a similar result? Granted, the furthest one might get more sound from the room than the actual instrument
I mean, there are much easier ways to digitally reproduce this. The point of doing it this way is that they pulled off an incredibly difficult feat, and earned bragging rights for it.
Yeah I mean I get it. If youâre gonna delay easiest just toss a plug-in on. Like I said itâs cool
That was my first thought too. I wonder if the delay wouldn't be noticeable and may just come across as a rich reverb. Maybe it would work better with a very large room, or even something 'L' or 'U' shaped?
I might be stupid, but couldnât they just like put on noise canceling headphones and play their respective parts? If they all practice at the same tempo and just master that speed wouldnât that be easier? Or is that like cheating
Watch me do it in 10 seconds on my laptop
This is like eating your food with your hands. Like, cool you can do it, I probably couldn't, but why would I ever need to? Tools exist to do this so I can focus on writing instead of practicing insane feats of technical creativity that a general audience wont even notice
But, like, couldnât you just all be playing to a slightly out off time click track?
Yes, that's what they're doing. It's still hard as fuck.
Is it though? Arenât they just playing their own part to their own click? Could be 0.5s delay or 10 minutes, wouldnât matter. And could have 1000 people. Maybe Iâm missing something.
As long as they canât hear the others to thrown them off I mean.
The EP record looks sexy
Totally sick!
I remember this.
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That's crazy. They all accidentally wore the same outfit. I bet they were mad.
That's fucking sick!
I don't get it đ
Good luck playing it live
For someone not musically inclined this doesn't sound like it's digitally altered, what am I missing here?
ELI5: Each musician is playing the same song but starting at a slightly different time, giving the illusion that there is some echo. It's called "acoustic" because the echo is played by someone, not generated by some electronics devices or by the configuration of the room.
What you are missing could be that it's very hard to play the same song as someone else without instinctively matching his/her rythm.
That's truly awesome! Don't know if OP knows the artists, but I would love to hear it with a different stereo sound mix: The three guitars on right+center, center and center+left. so you could hear the echo passing from right to left, assuming you also started from right to left.
Edit: Just saw the original video is three years old, so I guess, no chance.
You could just have three metronomes and the problem is solved
Would of been real nice to hear the entire song WTF
I'm willing to bet they did it using their own click tracks. Not saying that's cheating, but I'd like to see it done without headphones.
I thought acoustically meant, well, acoustically not "acoustic-guitar-ally"
But did they have to wear the same thing?
If that last guys strap is any tighter he is going to choke himself.
lol its just like row row row your boat on a round and kindergartners dont need 50+ takes to pull it off
All theyâve done is realised itâs too difficult, decided to put headphones on each player, then play 3 sets of metronomes or backing track into the headphones, at offset start times for each player, hence why, when they take their headphones off they ask did they do it, because none of them could hear the other two. Forgive me for not being impressed.
Just use a delay bro
Itâd be easier to use effects.
Isnt this just a canon? Not that it makes it easy, but this is a thing with a name already
This would be a gnarly metal intro
Very cool. A loop pedal could have done it too though no?
RemindMe!
Great work, beautiful piece!! This is called âphase shifting,â pioneered by composer Steve Reich. Check out Piano Phase or any of his âcounterpointâ pieces, he started doing this in the late 1960s, youâll probably enjoy them a great deal.
Why?
The main guy in the front, Rob Scallon, is one of the most popular guitar youtubers, and Rain was one of his songs that he uploaded when he was starting out like 10 years ago. He has a few videos that are different takes on the song in order to play off the popularity of it, but changes it up so it's new and interesting content
Now we need a video of the black guy who destroys tic tok videos just plugging in an electric acoustic to a delay pedal đ
why try this when you can just do a couple takes normally, then adjust it after... massive waste of time
Isnt this why sheet music was created? Not sayiing till be perfect everytime too, but it helps.
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