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I literally said this exact thing to my parents the other day.

"For almost all day every day, my mind is struggling to focus on anything. My mind is a fog of noise and I can't explore any complex ideas. I used to be able to but now I can't get the fog to clear"

I've not resonated so much with an image on this sub before.

Try nootropics for brain fog, it helped me

Don't mix unless you like losing control of half your face like my idiot friend

mix with what?

Other nootropics. I don't remember what he mixed with ashwaganda. But he's ugly as fuck now and wears headphones because apparently the ringing in his ears is pain inducing

Kinda quit being friends with him after that since he started getting really violent.

damn

WAIT YES I DO

That fake vitamin b17 shit they say cures cancer

they say cures cancer

Anyone or anything that makes this claim needs to be torched with fire and avoided at all costs unless thoroughly researched and validated by actual people with real credentials and legitimate organizations with actual accountability.

There are routes I would go before taking brain pills.

Are you drinking enough water? Are you getting enough sleep? Are you regularly exercising?

Before you start gutting brain pills, make sure you are answering yes to all the above questions first. Otherwise you may just be masking the root cause of the issue.

100% this. Pills most of the time should be a last resort.

Well, i have OCD too, so i have to stay "awake", once i lose my focus OCD takes over. Even if i get well rested sleep u still have brain fog

Are you exercising enough though? Drinking enough water? They all play into each other. Exercise, and stay hydrated when you doing it. The quality of sleep I get on days I exercise and days I don't is extremely different. Not saying I got the quick fix to OCD here, but it's worth asking yourself truthfully if you're taking the best care of yourself that you can.

I only make my comments because I've struggled with this myself, and staying on top of those three things has helped me a great deal.

I have as well. Get structured sleep, excersice, drink and eat healthy. You have to do it consistently over a few weeks to really feel the benefits. Early on it just sorta sucks and is hard, but you gotta stick through it.

Ah yes, exercise, that will help with mental issues. Get lost

It does help though.

Body and mind health are connected and nobody in this whole post is claiming that exercise is the sole answer but if you go get professional services and medical care, they will suggest the same things in addition to whatever treatment plan you're on most of the time.

There's no one fix to mental health problems, and sometimes nothing helps, but for a large number of people routines like exercise and better diets and other systems of healthy structure can make large improvements. If it hasn't worked for you, that's really too bad. I don't think you should tell anyone who offers the advice to "get lost" though.

We need to be careful that we're not so attached to our illnesses that they become our identity and we resist good advice and recovery efforts.

edit: to add to this, we also need to set our expectations differently what "diet and exercise" mean in a mental health context. Nobody who suggests this is thinking you're going to have a radical lifestyle change and expect you to do fukkin yoga on the beach and grow your own wheat-grass for smoothies and live in a soft-focus lifestyle of stock-photo bliss.

No, you walk down the stairs. That's it. start with that. Go to your backyard if you have one. Pace. It doesn't matter, so long as you're moving a little. Every day, then maybe push it towards a walk to the mailbox and back, then maybe down the street. Diet? Stop eating fries and candy. Buy some steam-in-bag veggies and drizzle them in butter if that's what it takes to get 'em down. Get used to changing things up a little. Push yourself to eat a salad once a week.

Start small, get used to doing things different, just to the limit of your comfort. Do this while getting treatment and taking whatever medications you may also be prescribed. Mental illness kills our ability to invest in ourselves and make progress towards goals, you have to teach your brain to do this basic function all over again.

It won't fix your Psychosis, but it sure is a step to overcome depression. And that's proven.

It literally does tho

Yes. Yes it does. Idk what the fuck you think you’re talking about here mate

Forreal. So sick of hearing that. Sure it will help, but it’s not fixing anything

I’ve always looked at the exercise thing as “if you can get your mental state to the place where you can work out daily, you’re already on the way” because while depressed getting that motivation to work out through it is rough. But no it’s not a fix all because you gotta get there on your own first

Literally when I am feeling terrible actually getting exercise will turn my days around. Not completely all at once, but the effect is strong and very noticeable.

I don’t currently suffer from clinically diagnosed depression (I did as a child), so idk YMMV

That might work for you, but a lot of people that are depressed are also overweight and out of shape. Exercise might actually ruin their day. If you’re not used to running, going for a run will put you out. That’s just another thing making it much more difficult to get up and do what you need to do.

I mean I’ve been moderately overweight and out of shape most of my life. I’m not saying everyone has to run a marathon, or even do a single pull-up. Do a 10 min easy yoga session and go for a walk in the sun, that’s enough when you aren’t physically capable of big workouts!

Even feeling like I’m out of shape and barely getting through exercise, as long as I’m not injuring myself I always feel a positive influence from it. Hitting something like that regularly for a few weeks will make me feel better about my body image when logically I know nothing has really physically changed in that time.

Our culture is obsessed with “pushing through the pain” and pursuing impossible body/fitness goals to an unhealthy intensity, crash diets and all that. That’s all toxic BS trying to sell you something. But getting some exercise will improve mood, energy and focus.

I totally agree with all of that. I just don’t appreciate it as a response to someone saying they feel bad. Most people know that exercise and healthy lifestyle will help their mental health. Hearing “Well have you been exercising and eating healthy?” When I tell someone I’m depressed is like, demeaning to my feelings. Makes me feel stupid like, well I guess it’s my fault I feel bad because I’m not practicing perfect health. When really I’m occupied just trying to get through the day without breaking down.

There is no perfect instant fix for something like this. All there is, are things that might help you. I don’t know what you want to hear as suggestions if not things that will help

Personally, I don’t care to hear suggestions. I’ve been depressed since I was a child. I know what I can do to help myself. I know that exercise, eating right and taking vitamins and being perfectly healthy overall will help my depression. I’ve gone through waives where I’m super healthy and fit, and waives of being overweight and feeling physically terrible. I know what I need to do, I don’t need to hear it at every turn and most depressed people feel the same way I do. I can tell you, I’m still just as depressed when I’m healthy, just less self-conscious about my body.

Well, this thread is in response to a comment where someone is talking about taking nootropics, which can definitely do weird shit... so idk, there’s gonna be discussion of different ways to help with depression in the context of comparing them to brain pills.

It’s not exactly being dumped on you out of nowhere... you chose to engage with the topic of exercise and depression. I don’t think it makes sense to get annoyed when people do the same with your comment. It’s fine to have a different opinion of something, but joining a discussion and then being like “I don’t want to hear anything about this topic” is confusing to me. I feel like you set yourself up for getting annoyed people are talking about the benefits exercise after you yourself agree that it does help, and that’s really all I was saying.

My only point is that asking someone if they’ve been exercising in response to them saying they’re depressed is, in most cases, annoying and futile and exhausting to the depressed person because they most likely hear it every time their mental health is brought up. I never said I don’t want to hear anything about the topic, I just said I don’t like when people say that to me. I don’t think it’s that weird to just respond with why nootropics are bad, instead of going straight to “are you completely healthy otherwise?”. I take medication, should I stop it and just start jogging instead? I’m just using myself as an example here. I’m not just coming here to a random conversation and saying “stop talking about this, I don’t want to hear it” so idk what your whole second paragraph was about.

Medication helped immensely. Don’t fall into this trap that drinking water can solve brain deficiencies

Creatine helps so much for this. It’s like I can focus on more at once now. Pretty much only nootropic I’ll use along with thc and Cbd. I don’t want to be some Russians human guinea pig.

Nah put a super-powered vacuum to your forehead so you can suck up all the fog in your brain. Then again your face and brain may get sucked up as well... and possibly your whole body. At least your brain fog will be gone

You don't need to explore any complex ideas. You need to focus on simple things. Listens to those emotions as a sign from yourself that you need to be doing something different that what you're doing. When you start doing the things you know you should be doing, your emotions change and your mind clears up. Get done the simple things that you know you need to do. When the day is over and you have accomplished basic things you wanted to accomplish, you will feel good. When you have not accomplished what you wanted to, try again.

This^

It's really easy to dismiss the voice of intuition because it's often hard to recognize if you're not listening for it. Intuition is pretty much the voiceor notion that guides you to getting better.

Meditation is a great way to come face to face with many of the problems that we face in our lives.

Something that has been helpful to me is to try my best to be aware of the current states I'm in. A lot of the time it's just "I'm tired" but being able to recognize it gives me a point to grab onto.

Whenever I'm in a depressed state, it can be hard, but I try to let myself understand that I'm not a person who is depressed, I'm experiencing what it's like to be a human who is currently depressed. It might be weird, but it offers a place where I am more than whatever mood I'm currently in.

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You scare even the person in the mirror looking at you.

As someone who had a suicidal meltdown just yesterday night, take my upvote.

same...WHY ARE WE STILL HERE??

Because if we killed ourselves it would be a dick move to the people who care about us.

so we're held hostage. great.

Yes, basically. Can't live properly, can't die properly.

exactly.ppl say offing urself is selfish, but isnt forcing us thru pain to consider their emotions selfish?

I know it’s the depression talking but why is their happiness worth more than my unhappiness? Why do I have to suffer just so others won’t?

Because they’re not causing your unhappiness, but if you took your own life, you would be causing their unhappiness. You dislike the unhappiness you feel so much that you consider suicide—so you know what you would be inflicting on everyone who cares about you, and who you care about.

It’s not about weighting happiness imo—instead it’s about what outcomes our actions cause. However if you want to weight the happiness/unhappiness, as a thought experiment, you’d need to sum the unhappiness for everyone affected by your death and compare to the unhappiness you feel—the sheer volume of people outweighs the magnitude of unhappiness that any one person can feel, generally.

That said, unhappiness is not a quantifiable metric we can use to make decisions like this by comparing relative amounts. It’s all about the outcomes and what we create in the world—not weighing our emotions vs the emotions of others.

As long as you're alive, you could get better. Grief is permanent.

And that´s the reason why I live my depression filled life in a way that nobody has to grief for me. I wonder if loneliness from self sought out isolation could make things worse...but I am feeling very considerate towards others...

Do I get a refund or something if it doesn't get better?

I don't have an answer to that honestly. Just know that lots of times I want to yell at them to let me go already. But they are making an effort to try to help me even if it doesn't work, so I can't, I can't...

We are trapped between life and death, and unfortunately besides getting better of the depression I don't know any way out that would not cause tons of damage.

Who exactly?

Friends, SO, family, aqcuantances, the people who would find your remains... you name it. Even random people who don't know you well can care about you not killing yourself because of the tragedy.

Wow ur still at the part where u think ppl care about u

It's not that I think it, there are people who do care about me.

literally the only anchor holding me here still

https://youtu.be/KgzQuE1pR1w

Yesterday? Noob, I'm having one rn

Not proud about it; but same

As someone who had a suicidal meltdown like 3 hours ago yup imma drop mine in too

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS AT 10 PM???

TIME TO FEAST!!!

Order 10000kcal of fast food to ensure that you'll still gain weight, even though you usually go for almost 24 hours without food.

Don't forget the "snack" at 3 am. Meanwhile my brother does 60 pull-ups a day and looks ripped with amazing proportions and body fat percentage, fml.

Why not do both? I generally wake up at 10-11 AM, do dips on the edge of my bed then pull-ups, shower, get whatever I want for food, then it’s like, games from 1/2-5/6PM, go for a 2-4 mile walk/run, pull-ups again, shower, eat if I’m hungry, otherwise go back to playing games until 11PM/12AM, then lie down in bed and just bear the anxiety until 4/5 AM. I also have a pair of dumbbells by my chair that I keep telling myself I’ll use for curls every time I die in game, but that really only happens once a week.

Damn you have lots of time for video games.

What do you do for a living?

Currently unemployed, living off of dividend income from my savings and investments. It’s not a TON, but it’s enough to cover my costs of living etc and still add a little bit onto my savings right now.

Going back to school soon because I don’t want a career in my former field of study (microbiology and genetics), and I’ll need new professional degrees (architecture), so working on mentally preparing myself for academics again, too.

Gotcha, thank you.

3 am snacks are the best

Or 3pm. Or 6pm.

That's the time when you mastu-

Replace the black fuzz with video games. Very accurate.

Tbh if it wasn't for video games I would have killed myself.

Gotta see the end of one piece.

How to become immortal:

Lmao you wanna see the end of one piece??🤣🤣🤣

Hahaha 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

Star wars for me.

Gotta see that obi wan show.

Gotta find out what happened to thrawn.

Gotta play that new lego game.

I feel ya brothers, shit sucks but at least we've got the superficial stuff to keep us holding on. Idc if it's not what keeps most people alive, it keeps me alive

Gotta know what happens to Ahsoka.

All my fav route characters have had their stories completed. Luke, Obiwan, Kylo, and Anakin.

Just one left. Her story is pretty much the only reason I still watch SW.

When one of my friends or I say I wanna kill myself we'll counter with "but how will you watch Stone Ocean?"

So... it's time.

You can find more hobbies to keep yourself going! As others have said in this thread, video games can really help, as well as any number of other things, whatever helps you stay motivated!

Yup! Whenever we have time we play terraria or stardew valley (stress free games bec CS and shit gives me anxiety)

Usually we don't find time to play, but my country is in yet another lockdown so we've got some time to kill :3

Thank you for your advice!

Need to know what the one piece is

It was Bleach for me when I was younger. Took so damn long I actually got help and medication and life is way better now lol

I thought the same About game of thrones. Fucking finale was so bad I decided to live out of Spite.

Glad to hear it's keeping ya going. Maybe one day we will see a remake or new season like dexter did. I never watched GoT though so idk if it's repairable by the end.

I constantly say that if GRRM croaks before he finishes ASOIAF then I'm gonna hang myself.

Same but slowly games have stopped giving me enough happiness to keep from offing myself.

Idk what I'll do when I get bored of them too.

The catch 22 of entertainment hobbies. They distract us from reality but they eventually become our reality and we become displeased with that new reality so we play new games to distract us from that new reality... and on it goes.

Until we find the joy of waffles

You might be joking but seriously, waffles are incredible.

I got bored.
Then I got a cat.
Send help!

What games are you playing currently?

Black ops Cold War. Literally only game I play.

Nice. Are ya winning, son?

Lol I got the 0.00000000001 kd. Game’s actually rather fun, don’t know why people say it isn’t. I mostly play zombies cus I got a lotta time on my hands.

Same here, mostly play for the zombies. Love me some outbreak before my midnight dread kicks in!

I mean, there’s like 2 youtubers and 3 games that I keep myself alive every day to play/watch lol

if it wasn't for games i probably would be in a very dark place too rn tbh

So I wasn't the only one with an abusive single parent growing up?

bUt ViDEo gAmEs arE chILdIsH

Unfortunately, video games don't do anything for me anymore

Left, right, X , O shoot, shoot, jump ... repeat

The interactive escapism of Subnautica and Battlefield 1 are better than any therapy.

Damn you're lucky that you can still enjoy them. I cant play a game without getting bored out of my fucking mind within an hour, seems like nothing is making me hapy anymore

I've been there, fortunately found a game (Witcher 3) which I'm enjoying at the moment hopefully I don't get bored out of it as well.

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Can confirm, that was a tough one to get over.

What games do you play that are this boring? Also how do you play them?

I'm playing a lot of different games, but only a few got me hooked to actually finishing them like Risk of Rain 2 or Ghostrunner. I started playing Mass Effect and I actually want to enjoy it but its so fucking boring for me even tho RPGs are one of my favourite genres

I’ve redownloaded so many steam games that I used to love and play everyday. Not even those do the trick. Same with TV shows/ movies. I guess this is my life now lol

thats also what I do, I just rotate between games I've played before

One couple of weeks it's GR Wildlands

Another week it's STALKER Anomaly, etc.

There are other RPGs out there that are way better, the Fallout & STALKER games are really good RPGs

Yeah played them too, enjoyed them bit I cant start them over again becazse like I said I just get bored. Waiting for Biomutant, that game looks very interesting

Pokémon Unbound, play it

Lmao play warzone you won't get bored but I can't guarantee that you won't become toxic asf

I think he needs comp multiplayer games all his hands are single player which i agree can easily become boring

I don't even have that. Fuzz is very accurate.

Lol I feel attacked..

Do you people not work?

I find it hilarious how I'm completely autonomous when the alarm rings. My brother wakes up without an alarm at 6:30 while I set my alarm to 6:00, put the device in the opposite end of the room and when it rings I walk over there, turn it of, and go back to sleep. Why am I like this?

Set multiple alarms

The times I did that I deleted all of them. My app has that feature.

Just be too lazy to delete them

I will try this lol.

I swear, I've actually somehow conditioned myself to be much better at math while half-asleep than I am when awake.

My alarm app doesn't turn off unless I solve a math question (something like 6*9-4 difficulty-wise) and while essentially still asleep I legitimately always solve those within 2 seconds and go back to sleep. A while ago I got up before the last of the many alarms I always set, forgot about it and then had to solve the math question later while fully awake and it took me way longer than I'm willing to admit.

Doing math tasks daily will make you better at those tasks.

Edit: But that'd certainly interesting.

You need more sleep than you're trying to get. Simple.

I'm basically nocturnal by now so I'm fucked.

I'm basically nocturnal by now so I'm fucked.

The fuzz is my person on auto living

Same but shift it by 2 hours forward every day.

For me:

8:00 AM - Wake up...

8:30 - Grab a brush and put on a little makeup

9:00 - Hide the scars to fade away the shakeup

9:30 - Why’d you leave the keys up on the table?

I thought that's what this post was at first because of how unintelligible he is through most of it.

Except at 11pm i have to go to sleep because work next day so I gotta fit the existential crisis and falling asleep there

sees 11pm me: thats why I sleep at 9:30pm qnd wake up at 3am then sleep again at 5am then wake up again at 9am =D

Besides the interruptions it seems kinda okay.

3am kinda early for me

I went through this over xmas. For the last 5 years I've been the primary care taker for my elderly grandparents. My grandpa passed in 2017 and my grandma in June. It was my first year without them for xmas. I basically broke down for several months. I went on FMLA to recover. But this was January.

WHY IS THIS SO ACCURATE?!

This sounds way better than work.

This is the most relatable thing I've ever seen. Just replace waking up at 1pm with 3pm and going to sleep at 3am with 5am

Every evening wrote down 5 things you want to do the next day. Can be easy like taking out the trash or something bigger like cleaning your room entirely. If you wake up the next day you have something to do and are more likely to be productive even after you’ve done the 5 things. Just don’t best yourself up of you don’t manage to do everything and don’t pick 5 really big things to do

This is what ADHD feels like...

this is so fucking true man except i wake up at 7 then its all blur then random waves of sad from 6pm to 12am

lmao

I suggest you go hiking at around 3pm. You'll feel better the rest of the day due to hormones or something.

r/all is weird. Dafuq am I?

This is the second layer of hell. Luckily, you have a visitor's pass which lets you leave whenever you want.

Yeah, what's up with that?

Bro.

me when vacation

Hey how did you find out my routine

For real this is how I felt before I got on depression medication. I still have really rough days and struggle with my depression and suicidal ideation, but medication really did help to make days not seem like this. If you truly feel like this and need to talk and that extends to anyone not just OP, shoot me a message.

Even therapy, my family, my friends..it’s not enough anymore. I wish this mentality could just end because I can see a light right there and I’m losing my strength.

I’m still not enough, and now my mind is just static.

Sounds like you need a JOB!

That's the static.

If you worked out/ did something active after work, it would help all that anxiety/suicidal thoughts.

u/MAXOHNO dieses rauschen so true

Oh boy

I feel this on a spiritual level

all day was 11pm for me yesterday

Ah I see you're an early riser.

God just let it end

Al least someone’s getting 8 hours of sleep…

what happened to 3 PM 6 PM 10 PM 12 AM 1 AM and 2 AM?

That hurts so much

this but I start at 5pm rather than 1pm

Literally happened to me yesterday

I didn't come here just to be called out like that

1pm - WAKE UP! 2pm - grababrushandputonalittlemakeup

This was exactly my day yesterday except that the meltdown started around dinner time.

this was me, but i started working 40 hours recently i wish this was still me tho

So your daily schedule is Death Grips for 14 hours.

You forgot the "cry for 4 hours" between 11 and 3

I’m in this picture and I don’t like it

Damn it’s been 11 for a while now

I have the same shit too except mine starts at 4am and ends and 8PM, because I'm stuck in a dead end 1st shift job...

I was about to upvote this and then I noticed that I had already upvoted it, proving indeed the blur that is my daily schedule

11:41 PM on the dot

Sad boy hours

Get depressed as hell and look at how much of a lonely f@g i am

Way too accurate

Me but somehow I have a normal sleep schedule

As of now

Out of all the subs, this is the one I relate to...could be worse?

Thought I was on r/visualsnow at first.

Just gotta get through this week!

This was me for a long time... still is some days. Would be a lot more days if I didn’t have the good medication I now do.

I mean... I’m not trying to make anyone feel bad here, but “unexplainable” is pretty clearly sarcastic here, right? Like I would definitely be sad and feel horrible if I were on this schedule, no question.

It’s difficult to change patterns, but this is one worth the effort to change, at least for me. Because I would not be in a good place if I did this more than every so often. Like a hangover day is gonna look like this probably now that I’m old lol... but that comes without the suicidal meltdown

With seroquel I dont have the 23pm part just sleep

This is called depression fam

I miss this

Oh wowowowowow. I thought this was the ADHD sub.

Glad it's not just me.

but sometimes the brain do breakdance doe lmao

felt that in my bones bruh

You forgot jacking off? HOW

That goes in the static area aswell

Wtf? People actually relate to this?

“gn”

Why is 11 pm so relatable

Relatable. For me meltdown starts after sunset

gn

I feel this, damn

The LaCroix of lives

r/im14andthisisdeep

If you find OP put her into asylum

Real talk, that's a horrible sentiment. So many suicidal folks don't get treatment because of the risk of being admitted.

You're feeding a stigma that kills people.

Sooooo… Someone is regularly missing 8 hours doesn’t need help? Weird flex

I mean, it sounds like they probably need to be admitted.

Where in between this busy schedule of yours did you put aside your precious time to construct this meme?

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There are a variety of possibilities. Based on username, if OC is from Italy:

"(e.g. unemployment, accidents on the job, sickness, invalidity, pension, family insurance services, maternity)" https://welcomm-europe.eu/italy/welfare/

This is only a fraction of possibilities; e.g. savings, inheritance, under the table work, part-time employment, the reality that people have "ups-and-downs" in their daily mental state, etc.

Personally, I'm unsure what "gn" means.

"gn" is short for "good night".