Thought I was looking at some guys in power armor for a second
Thought I was looking at some guys in power armor for a second
Courage Today
Victory Tomorrow!
Embrace democracy or you will be eradicated.
Embrace the God Emperor of Mankind or be purged Heretic Scum.
Democracy... is non negotiable!
Ad Victoriam, brother.
May the steel be with you
Blessed be the fruitloops.
Milk for the Khorne Flakes.
Never thought I'd see someone reference lathland/lathrix on reddit!
I actually got this reference!
Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the west from NCR hands.
Frater?
Looks more like the NCR riot armor/veteran ranger helmet to me.
you probably know it, but for those interested, this was at one point a concept for NCR armor.
Here is an interesting hour talk by grandfather about being shot down while in the 8th, he says he had to wait to deploy his parachute till he was back in air, also the stories he tells about shooting down a fw190 before being taken out, and the year in luftstalag 1 are very interesting. Amazing man, was a wild life biologist after the war.
https://youtu.be/vrprPykwBHM
Hey! My grandpa was also in the 8th. Lucky bastards, "the royal flush" 32 combat missions over Europe. Talked about the bombing of Brest, France. "We flew over early in the morning to get our targets, on our third past there was nothing left" it was pretty sad. Downed twice, once in England on a friendly air Base and somewhere else. Had great stories; having to run in place because it was so cold in the plane, V2 rocket flying over their base, Nazi occupied B17 infiltrated their ranks and was painted the wrong color green. He was a good man.
Nazi occupied B17 infiltrated their ranks
I've read about this happening several times to the 8th. Apparently, the Germans flew captured B17s up to the bombing group so they could radio altitude to the anti-aircraft batteries.
The practice didn't last long, bomber formations soon adopted the practice of firing on any loners that joined the formation
That's dark as hell, but makes sense..
Not only that, but I imagine it'd be a tough sell. "Yeah Hans, fly this bomber up into a big group of heavily armed enemies that we want to shoot at."
Or at the very least they’d check squadron and aircraft codes of the lone aircraft. If it was reported shot down a month earlier it’s gonna raise suspicion if it’s now flying at them.
Yeah that! He was a waist gunner, he said his pilot or whoever said "shoot that down, now" and all he saw was another plane, then his guy said "look at the green, it isn't right" nuts!
I read somewhere that they also tried to use the infiltrating bomber's turrets to take out the formation- just shoot the shit out of the rest of the box, basically. Anybody know if that's true?
Thank you so much for preserving his memory.
What are those attachments at the forehead?
I’m thinking flip down sunglasses.
Those are Nuke shades. After the blast, the only thing they find left of you is your retinas.
Not if it's from 1942...
Just the picture is from 1942.
/s
As others have said sunglasses that work with mask and goggles. Although normally just a luxury on the ground; when you get to higher altitude with less atmosphere (particularly the thick stuff low down) to absorb sunlight and glare off the top of clouds. Sunglasses turn from a luxury to something needed to even see outside, ergo fight.
Source I’m a pilot
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To clip their smart phones 😉
Nuclear blast shields to protect your eyes. Assuming you have the foresight and warning to put them in place of course.
Thank you
Why are the eye pieces square but not round?
Note the cover the front flat bit of glass on the goggles, yet leave the peripheral open.
They are sunglasses by the way.
ooooh okay thanks!
Recently read a book called Hell's Angels: The True Story of the 303rd Bomb Group and it was really a great look into one group of B-17 crews in the 8th during the war. Their daylight bombing raid casualty rates were astoundingly high. I don't have the numbers in front of me but it was something like of the 25 plane crews that were with the group when it was formed, only 3 flew the required 25 missions to be rotated home. They got better though. In fact, the 303rd had the 1st B-17 in the 8th Airforce to fly 25 missions and the first to fly 50 and even 75 missions.
Biggest surprise for me was the number of aircrews that were murdered by German civilians after they bailed out over Germany. The German military was basically the only thing saving aircrews from being torn apart by the locals and many aircrewmen were shot, stabbed and even burned.
They weren't given fighter escorts for daylight bombing raids initially. Survival rates increased quite a bit as the war progressed because 1) enemy defenses became weaker and 2) bombers were protected by fighters.
That and there was more then enough allied fighters in Europe to ensure that there was constant CAP over the entirety of German airspace. Meaning any interceptors would be long knocked out before they every got close to the bombers.
The switch from using the escorts for close support of the bombers to having them flying well in front of the formation to clear out enemy opposition was also a big deal.
Seems like a logical response to having your cities and towns fire bombed with the specific goal of creating as much choas and civilian deaths that you can
Yeah, I guess I shouldn't have been surprised. It definitely makes sense. It's just not something you ever really see in movies and the like. Most of the stories about crews that are shot down focus on them evading capture and escaping or how they deal with POW camps.
it is almost like war movies are part of the propaganda arm of the military.
Thank you for blowing up my town, please accept this blowjob and pastry.
There was a story I read one time about a Polish pilot who got shot down during the battle of Britain. The locals knew what a British uniform looked like and knew that what this guy was wearing wasn't it so he got chased up into a tree. The pilot didn't know much English but he says the most appropriate thing he knows, "Fuck Off!"
The Brits pause for a moment and then one of them says "I guess he's one of ours then" and they helped him down out of the tree and lent him a bicycle so he could get back to the nearest airbase.
A lot of bad ideas and limited technology during WWII. Strategic bombing pretty much didn't have any of the effects military generals thought it would. One of the main reasons the Americans took on daylight raids was for "precision". AFAIK bomb accuracy was still pretty terrible despite day light and advanced targeting optics.
Of course pretty much every major country involved in the war also bombed civilian targets with pretty loose military justification. Typically no more than "destroy the morale to force them to surrender". Rotterdam was leveled despite a cease fire being negotiated.
I recommend the documentary "Cold Blue" on HBO, if you have access. At one point, they state that the 8th Air Force took more casualties than entire Marine Corps.
They also have an interview with a gentleman who had a friend bail out of a plane, only to get pitchforked to death by farmers.
Isn't that an enhancement of the original ~1943 William Wyler film?
I believe you are correct
My great-grandfather was shot down over Ploesti during Operation Tidal Wave. When he hit the ground he was first found by by some Romanians who were apparently planning to hang him according to the German patrol that saved him.
I thank God for the Memphis Belle and the crew that served on her, otherwise I wouldn't be alive. Grandpa was the waist/top turret gunner. Sadly, he passed before I could truly understand the war and comprehend his stories so now I try to soak up every bit of history surrounding him.
Memphis Belle is the one remembered but Hell's Angel was the first B-17 to fly 25 missions.
Looks like some Enclave or Brotherhood of Steel power armor
Democracy.... is non-negotiable.
Nah definitely ncr ranger
Okyeah maybe enclave my bad
My Great Grandpa served in the 8th from 44-45. He was a nose gunner on a B-17. Originally, he was in flight school training to be a pilot, but got kicked out of flight school when he got caught sneeking out to go swimming. I think we would have been friends.
Almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
what are those jackets called? where can i get one?
Just bomber jackets with fur on them.
Something like this:
https://www.wilsonsleather.com/product/code/WM6A5179.do?gclid=Cj0KCQjwl6LoBRDqARIsABllMSZKkqPRRinSBnY90Z-Te0yd5RrOGsQRt7JUWfQCh2jjlNblR11-EnMaAoqVEALw_wcB
thank you very much 👍
I used to work for this store and have sold/worn that exact jacket a lot. Take note it's really, REALLY warm.
Look up B3 or B6 jackets on eBay! That Wilson one is pretty cheap and you can find some authentic ones for that much or less.
I have one and it’s wildly warm
We must cleanse the Commonwealth of technological abominations. Search out and destroy the Institute, knights.
"Coming over here, there was a very great lesson. The first four hours we passed over a destroyed land, utterly destroyed. You who have not seen it do not know what hell looks like from the top. Thats what Germany looks like, thats what Austria looks like, thats what any place that the 8th air force and the 3rd army worked on looks like. You must remember this. That from Brest to various towns in southern Germany and Austria whose names I can't pronounce but whose places I have removed, the trail of the 3rd army and the 19th tactical air command and the 8th air force is marked. By more that 40,000 white crosses, 40,000 dead Americans." - George S. Patton
Or in other words... early inspiration for Stormtroopers by George Lucas.
Are the bags for vomit, or are they like a rebreather or something in case air flow is too high/low?
They're part of the oxygen supply system, like the bags on the masks in commercial jets that drop down in emergencies. I'm not sure exactly how they work, but definitely not for vomit!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_oxygen_system
The mask may also have a concentrator or re-breather bag that may or may not inflate depending on the cabin altitude
They collect excess oxygen. You can squeeze the bag for a quick burst of O2. My wife has one on her oxygen mask.
Or more specifically they’ll give you air pressure when squeezed. Contrary to popular thought; it’s not the lack of oxygen that’s the issue at high altitude but rather the pressure.
Rhino beetlemen?
One of the most brutal positions in the war
The headgear looks lite the t-51 power armor helmet from fallout
What Fallout game is this?
So thats where star wars got som of its inspiration eh?
Yeah Vader's helmet is a stalhelm with a evil looking Face mask
Antman?
what's that visor for?
Sunglasses. They become pretty critical to see outside when you’re at higher altitudes.
When you accept the fact that no matter what you do, your grandparents were more badass than you could ever be. And I said grandparents: my grandma worked at the Pentagon on the first day it opened.
Ya my grandpa shot down a Heinkel He 111 on his LST. And that was after surviving in his Higgins Boat at Omaha Beach.
My grandma was on the very end of the war generation and she still occasionally brings up this Navy guy she was supposed to go out with. He got sick and postponed the date, and she never saw him again. Still wonders if he survived the war.
You right, my grandpa loved to talk about his time in Vietnam and at the berlin wall. Dude literally fought in a war to get citizenship
I love this picture. Theres just something about it that always makes me stop and study it.
Must have been some great jackets they had. Wish I could find a good one on sale. Dope picture
Goddamn amazing jackets. Not getting one close to that for less than $1.5k at least. Shearling is very pricey
Hell today most air forces will still have a similar type of jacket for air crew or personnel.
Kill Zone?
Random fact they use those on The Expanse tv show!
Serbian trappers Mili and Surreal used it as a albume cover click here
Where can I find one of those jackets?
Snake? Snake? SNAKE!!?!?
What is the function of that thing above the goggles
Anyone know what the hinge flaps above their goggles are?
Imagine they are sunglasses. Being at high altitude you can imagine how harsh the sun would be.
Why there are balloons in their masks?
The air bags are used to store oxygen in continuous flow oxygen masks.
Dr. Pim?
Reminds me of the T-51 power armor helmet from Fallout
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You should add the /s
High altitude masks are different to low altitude. Low altitude masks are useful from around 10,000ft upwards to a point, however over certain altitudes(the exact figure escapes me if someone has it) Oxygen must be delivered under positive pressure in order to "Force" it into the lungs. It's also exceptionally cold up there, so your average aviator will need a bit more padding then what you saw in Pearl Harbour.
Big F to your karma, should have added the s/
This is what Tom Hardy in Dunkirk looked like, he wasn't wearing the typical RAF uniform
RAF flight crews depending on what they were up to would often wear various pieces of equipment and uniform that wasn’t the regular SD uniform.
Looks just like the Black Sabbath album cover
He's the one who should be afraid
What will happen to you Johnny Blade?
His only friend is a switchblade knife...
Leaked footage from Fallout 5
Looks like this is where they got the design for the original storm troopers in Star Wars.
Fun fact, most weapons in Star wars are mostly WW2 weapons with other stuff stuck onto them. Heck a lot of the combat is very similar to WW2 tactics. Whole thing is very WW2 influenced
Yeah for example the "DLT-19" is just a futuristic looking MG 34
Hans pistol is a modded Mauser c96 and the stormtrooper plasters are modified sten guns. I created a storm trooper blaster in payday 2 So fun stuff
Lightsaber?
They were modeled after the SW23 swords used on at the Battle of Olympus Mons, conventional weapons were proving less effective in that theatre so the allied and axis think tanks had to rush out their R&D to get the troops armed in a quick manner. It's a lesser known battle because it was an overwhelming axis victory, as they got the weapons first and none of it actually happened.
And the stormtrooper blasters were old STEN guns.
Sterling sub machine guns actually.
Knew someone that worked in the entertainment industry and actually had on original one from the set. Pretty cool to see it up close. Kit mashing must have been a fun job back in those days.
I stand corrected. I handled a sterling SMG at an RAF event back in the early 90s (they were still in use by female members of the regiment at that point), and I thought they’d told me it was a STEN. I was only a kid and could barely lift it, let alone pull the charging handle.
You will love this anecdote.
That is maybe the best thing i have seen on the internet in years! 😂
That man is extremely articulate, and I wish I could speak as well as he does.
Well that was charming
A lot of the sets used surplus WW2 equipment. Hell the cantina set ended up using old Derwent jet engine parts(Gloster Meteor).
The X-wing and TIE fighter battle on the Death Star was based directly on Wwii fighter gun cameras.
The whole attack on the death star was based on 'The Dambusters'.
The Empire are pretty much Space Nazis
A Mauser pistol for Han Solo.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSzsCQM3fIlCsyzuddPnsS5sp-YSYP155qYvBLMxfeCKmfUrJ1C
That would be the Nazis.
In that photo, the masks used were oxygen masks for mountain climbing. I've tried to find the same kind of vintage mask but it seems like they're just not a thing anymore.
This 🙂
I'm a big Sabbath fan, but low-key. This photo is a little cooler
The Sabbath album cover is the /r/WalmartCelebrities version of this