Chernobyl (2019) | Official Trailer | HBO

HBO might as well not be available in my country. Cable monopoly that charges an absurd amount and probably hasn't updated anything in 20 years bought all HBO content. You can't get HBO Now or Go. Everyone just resorts to pirating.

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Damn. 83 days in complete misery? Literal doctor induced torture.

Why did I fucking click this....

swipe to text makes for the best typos

I knew a doctor that saved people. His reward was to cone to the states for a summer and work at a summer camp then go to Mass General in Boston for a year.

From what I gathered from the trailer there are some first repsonders as major characters in the show. As far as I'm aware the firefighters suffered horrifically, of course that's going to be miserable to watch in a show.

Well, it does say “based on the untold true story”.

Ok, so I have a morbid fascination with the Chernobyl disaster. The official death toll from the initial explosion was only like 50 people. However, thats disingenuous to the final toll of those exposed to radioactive steam and those exposed to the contaminated material during cleanup. The estimate that about 4,000 people died prematurely due to Chernobyl.

And there was plenty of shady shit the Russians pulled after the explosion. They didn’t even tell the international community some other country picked up the radiation signature on their scanners. Not only that, they waited nearly 18hrs to finally admit their was a meltdown and they had done next to nothing to cleanup. They didn’t evacuate the town immediately because they refused to admit how bad the situation was. Finally, they realized how bad it was and gave everyone 50mins to get out of town.

Speaking of the soldiers, some of their stories are the craziest ones. Dudes picking up entire rods of uranium, by hand, and throwing them off the roof into a dumpster. Crazy physiological side effects: severe tunnel vision, ringing in the ears, aluminum taste in the mouth, and lots lots more. I mean for god’s sake the fireman’s uniforms are still in that pile to this day and it is damn near lethal to touch.

It does say in the description that it is a dramatized interpretation.

I hope they don't really dig into the Soviet hate, but I have a very different opinion on the response than you. Due to the secretive nature of the Soviet Nuclear program (the Soviets even, "cleverly," titled the program the, "Ministry of Medium Machine Building"), the public and even the higher-ups were unaware of the magnitude of the explosion and fallout until days later. I'm not sure it was,"conspiratorial," as much as it was incompetence, horrible communication and denial. Yes, there were relatively few deaths, but people were unnecessarily put into harms way (the entire population of Prypiat). Very few responders even knew what they were dealing with. Hell, the plant director thought Reactor 4 still existed a day after it exploded. He was ordering people into the Reactor building to cool it manually, even though it was completely destroyed. I hope they show the courage and resilience of the Soviet people, while at the same time showing the awful nuclear health and safety policies of the Soviets, how flawed the design of the RBMK reactor was and the delayed response (freaking Sweden knew about it before the Kremlin did).

Didnt they wait a long time before telling people about the disaster though? I could be wrong about that but I thought they were trying to keep it hush hush.

The IAEA estimates that premature deaths due to cancer of cleanup workers will total around 4,000. This is the conservative number, with other estimates of 27,000, and biased estimates of hundreds of thousands.

Even when exposure is quite limited, any dose of radiation increases one's risk of cancer, it's not a hard line. Certainly the Soviet Union implemented a policy which resulted in as few as possible acute radiation deaths during the cleanup, which is good, but hundreds of thousands of Soviet citizens and soldiers received radiation doses they would never have received if not for the completely incompetent and dangerous way Chernobyl was designed and run, which resulted in the disaster.

So I think demonizing them over Chernobyl is fair. If HBO created a series with this tone about say Fukushima, I think that would be over the top.

Very interesting, Is there a book you got this from?

Yeah, I hated the tone of the trailer too. Too much BWUmmm and BWAAAmmm type stuff.

It was a tragedy, its a frightening story, but they went full summer blockbuster with it when making it more subtle and frightening would be better. Just obnoxiously heavy handed.

The most frightening account of radiation and one of the most distressing things I ever read was without all this obnoxious in your face emotionality. The cold hard facts and tone of the award winning reporting of John Hersey's "Hiroshima", hits far better. I still believe is one of the best writing Ive ever experienced.

Yeah, but the tone is awesome. I think it looked good anyway, even if it doesn't necessarily represent the full truth.

Its not a documentary, so I'm worried about the facts of it as much as I am about the entertainment of it.

But, to each their own :p

It will definitely be interesting to see how the show presents things and how experts react to the portrayal. I only know very little about the actual details so I've been reading about it. Seems like the cause of the disaster itself was a major fuck up by the director working at the plant at the very least by moving forward with the test despite being wildly outside of the test parameters.

On top of that it seems like the evacuation of hundreds of thousands was unnecessary and caused more harm than good.

As far as deaths from the radiation, there might have been few acute radiation deaths but there were certainly far more deaths due to long term effects anywhere from 4000 conservatively to 60,000 at the highest estimate.

I'm not saying that they didn't do a lot of things right with the response but there were certainly many things they fucked up along the way immediately before and after the incident. And the incident cause itself can be attributed to the lack of oversight, proper training, and enforcement of protocols.

I do realize that the grim nature of the portrayal has the undesirable effect of turning people off of nuclear power, though. For that reason, I agree that they should tone it down a bit as when done correctly nuclear power is very safe.

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"very few", well that is always up for debate. Immediately in the aftermath? Yes most state around 49, but the problem is always long term effects. The debate there is gigantic, from around 4000 (IAEA study), to crazy estimates of like 900000. I think they don't show a ton of people dying here necessarily, they show that the effects are wide ranging. The fear this caused was insane at the time because USSR would not let anyone know what exactly happened, including those directly effected. To say it was not that bad is pretty off.

It's just a movie but I see your point.

It still looks like a pretty cool movie even if it’s mostly fictional tho

Pretty much how I felt about the trailer. Might still be a nice drama, but it's far from the reality of how things went down. Many higher estimates for follow-up morbidity aren't exactly reputable or precise either and make wild guesses in the low six-figures (another topic in itself what constitutes those affected).

There was wild shit going on, shady stuff - which is not exactly an untold story as it stands. I think this series could have done with a more ambiguous approach, think Thank You For Smoking with bad people being in control of dangerous utilities and some smarmy, good-looking guy dessecting the bullshit beneath the surface. Fourth-wall breaking and all that jazz.

I reserve judgment until I have seen it, but this show looks pretty damn generic to me with needlessly dramatic embellishment - as you said. It's a "nah" on my expectation meter.

Yeah also a great way to scare people off nuclear energy. It is a green option and modern plants are very safe. Now people are just going to say: "nah man I saw that HBO show brah, fuck nuclear power"

I think that the first responders to Chernobyl was the Russian army, and they had grunts with shovels moving the debris. A lot of those guys died because Russia, knowing about exposure limits, believed them expendable. Also Russia didnt even tell anyone else about the incident until a high radiation alarm all the way over in a swedish nuclear power plant went off and their investigations revealed that the wind must have carried it all the way from Russia. That's when Russia finally admitted it, days later.

Few? Define few

On the death toll of the accident, the report states that 28 emergency workers ("liquidators") died from acute radiation syndrome, including beta burns, and 15 patients died from thyroid cancer in the following years, and it roughly estimated that cancer deaths caused by Chernobyl may reach a total of about 4,000 among the 5 million persons residing in the contaminated areas.

Then

Of all 66,000 Belarusian emergency workers, by the mid-1990s only 150 (roughly 0.2%) were reported by their government as having died. In contrast, 5,722 casualties were reported among Ukrainian clean-up workers up to the year 1995, by the National Committee for Radiation Protection of the Ukrainian Population.

There were quite few more than just few.

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Thank you. The trailer really feels like heavy propaganda to stop us from researching nuclear power in the U.S by keeping people terrified of it. Just sayin'.

I'm glad you said this. I'm no expert on the matter, but the overall tone of this just seems way too dark. It was some serious shit, but it feels like they're already taking waaaay too many liberties with "based on". I was hoping for something less dramatic in tone, but still very serious. Not quite documentary, but not so Hollywood. Maybe it's just the trailer.

Very few dead, most got cancer. If you watch any video interviewing the locals, they weren't talking about the relative safe cleanup, they were kept in the dark about the disaster for days and had to abandon their home. They were saved by wind that night more then anything, if the wind blew south, Kiev would be the ghost town today.

I feel like the thing you're missing is in those moments they didn't know what was going to happen. I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying but it's easier to say 'they're making this seem worse than it was' when we get to look at it as history and not as the reality that those people had to go through. Obviously HBO has to make it a bit extra since it's a show and they might sensationalized it but i feel like the miserable tone seems applicable to those people who were activly dealing with containing a nuclear disaster. I can't imagine what they had to go through and how terrifying it was. I didn't get a vibe that we are supposed to hate anyone in this moreso a vibe of 'this is how tense and scary this was for the world.

The trailer does not necessarily represent what the mini series might ultimately be about. I've seen trailers for movies and TV shows resemble very little of the little of the actual shoes when it had a subject matter that is complex or nuanced resembled t. Like I remember the leftovers from HBO traitor made it seem like that it was about the Christian Rapture .Or the movie Sully was marketed as almost a court room drama of a hero pilot wrongfully maligned by the haters. Better caul saul looked like it was going to be comedy with shady lawyer infomecial jokes

Given that HBO hits home runs the majority of the time I assumed that it'll be something thought provoking and won be 0 some cliched nonsense

Well, many people died if you count the people in Belarus whowere exposed to the fallout after. Many children born with horrible birth defects and cancers. Also, it’s probably hard to calculate actual deaths as many were cancer related years later.

The cleanup may have been sensible, but the events that lead to the disaster were not.

The trailer paints a ridiculously miserable and conspiratorial vibe to everything, and certainly several dozen people died in the event, but mostly Russia managed the resulting cleanup and containment measures relatively safely.

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Well, the Russians did try to hide it from the international community, which is a conspiracy by definition.

Would be interested in your take on it now if you've seen it. Last night's episode showed how they limited exposure as you talked about. Plus the discussion after each episode discussed it in more detail

Soviet troll

yet here they radically miss the mark

A trailer is not the same thing as the final product and typically completely different teams work on the trailer vs the show.

It is however consistent with HBO's general tone these days of making people feel miserable and hateful.

I mean, sheesh, they shouldn't have to work very hard to make us hate the soviet union, and yet here they radically miss the mark.

I think it's more that it's in the current vibe and atmosphere to realese these kind of shows. The whole consipirationnist apocalyptical stuff sells well to the audience

Spot on. What I was thinking watching it: This looks like amazing TV, but is painting nuclear as a horror show at a time we need nuclear energy more than ever.

I think HBO has lost its way. Did you watch the Theranos documentary? It would be insulting to a teenager to watch that. So childish.

Just by a quick google search more than "very few" died from the chernobyl disaster. At least 49 people died immediately from trauma. I have also seen estimates online that deaths from the radiological fallout is easily in the thousands. And an article from new scientist says they still dont know how many died, knowing the soviet union I'm sure they downplayed how many actually died.

TLDR: thousands died from the fallout and we still dont know the exact number.

saucehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_due_to_the_Chernobyl_disaster

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20403-25-years-after-chernobyl-we-dont-know-how-many-died/

They continued with the may day celebrations despite the high levels of radiation. They also didn't admit the disaster until power plants in Europe started to report high levels of radiation. There was definitely an effort to not let people know what was happening.

Yeah the soldiers prepared, that doesn't excuse everything else. Few people officially died. We all know the Soviet Union was always on the level and would never lie about mortality rates...

I recommend you read Midnight At Chernobyl by Adam Higginbotham this series is likely based on .

There absolutely was a campaign of misinformation, cover up and denial by the Soviet government to the residents of Pripyat and further into Belarus and even Sweden. The very few that died is the official number provided by the USSR - 31. Most of them were firemen and first responders that died horrifically months later but the actual number is in the thousands. This isn't HBO trying to make anyone hate the Soviets, it's telling an extremely well researched, horrifying book about a crisis never before seen on the planet.

I like how you are playing down the health effects of the Chernobyl disaster.

You should also factor in how many misscariages and babies with deformation happened during the years after the event. Southern Belarus was affected the most.

I am seriously shocked that your posts have received this many upvotes, let alone more than 0. After reading a comment of yours that gave every indication that you believe that the H2 television show "Ancient Aliens" covers matters of serious, scientific, inquiry, I wasn't going to respond. Because there's no point in arguing with people who lack the desire or ability to understand that just because any given scientific community refuses to study something doesn't make those buying in to such stupidity, intelligent for bucking convention and being able to follow the "evidence" as it is spoon feed, excruciating slowly, to the viewer. It demonstrates an individual's lack of ability to reject said "evidence" based on information that is not presented to the viewer. Like questioning the credentials of the show's experts or failure to adhere to even the most rudimentary concepts that are the foundation of the scienced/legitimate academic pursuits. All of which are great indicators that anyone who can stand more than 30 seconds of a show like Ancient Aliens, totally lacks any critical thinking skills. On the "Cowardly Don's Draft Dodging Bingo" cards one of the squares is for someone who thinks that the Nazi party was actually interested in the creation and/or installation of an economic system fundamentally built upon the tenets, concepts, and market principles of socialist economies as they were then understood, because nazi is an acronym for the "National Socialist Worker Party" has just declared to everyone reading such an asinine statement that, 1.) They believe whatever they read online, provided that it conforms with the politics they favor; 2.) That they have not had any higher education; 3.) In order to be logically consistent, they believe that the DPRK, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea or the CPP, the People's Democratic Republic of China MUST then be democracies because it says so in the name, just like the nazis. When in fact, as any book about the Third Reich will explain, it was an intentional fallacy from the beginning. The Nazi party was massively pro wealth/owner/management/industry/business mainly because their ideological platform was to be opposite in every way from the communist groups popping up all over Europe post WWI. But... numerically there's always more of the poorly educated and marginally educated, like factory workers, than the elitist aristocracy who owned the means of production and industry and whom loved, loved, loved the nazi party as a check against the growing menace of international red revolution. They had tons of money from the ruling class, just not the votes. So in 1935, along with Mien Kampf, the party went all out, spending nearly every inflated mark they had to gain the vote/support of the working classes. But the rich aristocrats said they couldn't make any promise to raise wages, better working conditions, allow unions, etc a part of the party platform. How does a political party gain support from a group that, in reality, whose best interests they aren't just unconcerned with, but are actively suppressing? By implementing Machiavelli's standards for ruthless victory in his masterpiece, The Prince. The number one rule of which is that the masses will believe that the enemy, the "true enemy" is any group different from the characteristics of the "favored people". In Renaissance Italy, Machiavelli urged his benefactors, the Medici family of Florence to follow this guide to reinstate themselves to the Papacy on the death of Pope Alexander, preventing the Borgia from becoming an dynasty. This occurred but the Prince was considered by Pope Leo X, a Medici, evidence of Machiavelli's low character and willingness to expertly advise the highest bidder, save the Borgias or Sfroza families. But no matter the case, a prince, or any nobleman needing real power, had to be able to fight. The question of the Prince became the best way to gain such an army of peasants. Men with no rights whose wives and daughters were disposable to their leaders. Zero social mobility. You create an army. You create fear. And since the Prince, this tactic has been at the forefront of all radical political movements.

The nazis however probably implemented it with the greatest brutality and efficiency. To say it won the party popular support is an incredible understatement. The Jews and communists were at fault for all of the ills of Germany. Their rights were systematically destroyed and eventually they were classified as less valuable to the Reich than farm animals. After official Fuhrer decree 19, the Jews in all of Europe were no longer humans. Every single jew and his personal property became the property of the nazi party. Since non-people can't be murdered under the law or laws of war, the extermination process began at an industrial rate. 1942 saw 3.4 million enemies of the state, gassed and creamated. Over 19k of which recieved the highest honor for serving Germany in WWII. To argue no such parallels exist in the United States today is to be willful blind.

I find two, I'm 100% they're not the only such claims, that are disturbing. You say anyone who is outside of the donny bitch tits cult of personality, hates America.... this is disgusting.

Let me ask you this: what branch did you serve in? MOS? How long? Please list your citations according to the Uniform Military Dress Code.

Because, as my username indicates, I served in the 1st Division/ 1st Company, Hotel Unit, USMC from 2003 to 2012. My brother: USMC from 1988-2009. My father: volunteered for service in the USMC during Vietnam, 2 tours, 1967-1969, and for 9 months in 1972 to train the South Vietnamese. His brother, Cpt. Thomas Fitzgerald, KIA 4/9/1970.

My maternal grandfather: US Army, 82 Airborne, widely regarded as the first American doctor in Nazi Europe, 1942-1946; Korean Conflict, 1949-1951.

I deployed 4 times. 2x to Iraq for Falluja I and Fallujah II. I watched young Americans suffered life ending injuries. Even worse, I woke up every day knowing that my choices meant a family destroyed. A life altered by injury so completely that I find it hard to call it a life. A head attached to a useless body. Constantly struggling with pneumonia etc. Men, out of the 42 in my intelligence battalion, 26 were not US citizens. Yet they fought, were killed, maimed, forever altered, so they could have the right to US citizenship. And poor. I felt guilty talking about my bachelor's and master's degrees in history and how I'd be leaving in 2012 to start law school. The majority of immigrants supported their families stateside with no less than 33% of every check. Shit, we had 17 Marines in a Company of 300 that were straight up refugees with no citizenship deal.

The most disgraceful decision taken by a politician in the last 50 years was donny bitch tit's ording then Sec Mattis to inform these foreign born patriots that the CONTRACT THEY SIGNED GUARANTEEING THEM AND IMMEDIATE FAMILY CITIZENSHIP TO BE NULLIFIED IN FULL.

The man you adore, the one you claim cares about the Constitution, and loves America so much, well, first of all, why did he refuse to serve six times on totally bogus records? Because your fat bitch of a God emperor is a textbook COWARD, like the great patriot and pedophile, Ted Nugent. Donny bitch tits used his privilege to avoid the draft. Disgusting to admire such a person. Not to mention his incredibly well documented history, a practice that was made official trump inc policy, sought small contractors knowing that when he didn't pay them wages they couldn't afford the legal fight. Donny ruined 92 family contracting businesses in New Jersey alone by doing this repeatedly. A real champion of the people... who has a NYC penthouse and shits in a golden plated toilet.

I was going to say, they don't support their country and are not nationalists in any way. And so now you've made me realize that the American left is less patriotic than Osama Bin Laden.

Please elaborate why I don't love my country. Really answer me that? How am I less patriotic than UBL? Is it because I have to salute left handed after shrapnel severed a nerve in my spine? Maybe after my closed head injury where I had to learn to read again I'm confused. I know my beautiful fiance, now wife was when I some days I knew who she was and some I didn't.

What have you done for this country? Serve as a keyboard warrior? Judging by your terrible knowledge of history I'm guessing not much as you're probably a teenager. Most adults understand the "Great Political Shift" that began with Lincoln and culminates with FDR, WWII.

The Republican party was the suffrage party, it supported her because of ideology not spite.

During the period that the suffragettes were active the Republican party was more liberal than the Democratic party is today. Unless you support the massive growth in the federal government under Lincoln, where he expanded the Constitution to eliminate the rights of states to make laws that run afoul of federal law. This ending the "States rights" stuff forever. Not to mention he developed and then implemented a plan to emancipate the "private property" of southern land holders. The kind of government intervention discussed today on fox news as "unconstitutional government overreach." Not to mention that the anti federalist movement/party after the creation of the Us while short lived, evolved into the democratic party. Who is also responsible for making the pledge of allegiance mandatory.

Lastly, please explain how a radical Islamic terrorist cares more a out American than I do, a USMC with multiple purple hearts, a bronze star with valor device, not to mention many other citations.

What do you do or how have you dedicated life and limb to serve our country? In specific detail please.

Your Chernobyl assessment is awful. Any facts/numbers released by the Soviet and then Russian govt. aren't trustworthy.

Actually, from what I read, Russia actually handled the situation horribly. They made tons of people evacuate, which actually exposed those people to a ton of radiation that they would not have been exposed to had they just stayed in place. Russia just wanted to evacuate a ton of people just to look better in the public eye.

Source: Wikipedia binge on this topic. ..just look up the wiki

Hundreds of thousands dead people are „very few“?

How's working for the Internet Research Agency? They pay well there? I heard they didn't.

America pays better, trust me.

Yeah he’s good he and my my mom moved to New York not too long after Chernobyl disaster. He was not in the thick of the action because he wasn’t a liquidator but he did deliver supplies for a few weeks I believe. If he continued to live in Ukraine he would have gotten a pension and healthcare benefits from the government for his service.

Not sure why someone downvoted you..

9/11 first responders have been getting cancer at alarming rates and there's no program to help them. It's fucked up is all

It's not. Just good stuff that's been coming out in general that's rather unusually good for it's genre.

Next time there's a huge reactor built, build a city like rainbow town and put it there

Glad to help!

To be fair nuclear is one of the most interesting topics to people and has been since film, and the atomic bomb have both been in existence together. There’s a certain romance to it. There are far more imaginative stories because of it than anything other than a zombie apocalypse.

Nuclear stories still interest the public, there’s multiple films, books and computer games on the subject. You could ask any kid over a certain age today to think of a game, book or film involving either a nuclear disaster or a chemical or biological one, and im certain you’ll get more answers to the former.

This new tv series is decades after the event too, and there’s a story to be told there and they know it will interest the public. That’s why it’s been made, for the story, and for the money. The world wants to see a Chernobyl story.

Your right of course that other disasters deserve as much recognition.

UN and WHO cited data is propaganda from Russia now? Whooo boy.

Yeah this movie looks awesome and I'm glad the gravity of what went down at Chernobyl is getting main stream attention...but nuclear energy reaaally does not need more bad press right now.

I mean. It's not like he provided any reputable sources either.

I just get suspicious as to what the motivation would be for spamming something like this all over the thread.

Don't worry, we talked it out already.

I agree, I'm just saying....the incident is larger than the 93 deaths, which I'm just taking your word on, I've not checked the numbers for that personally.

But a lost life is no less tragic because the person is buried in a wooden coffin.

Completely forgoing the possible consequences when someone dies, but ok. Yeah, lets just ignore that it was a lead coffin covered in concrete and ignore why that it instead of a wooden coffin.

Yes and just think of all the people who sacrificed themselves in similar ways to save people from bus crashes. Like what the fuck is even going on here.

He’s factually correct but extremely callous, and ignoring some really disastrous long term consequences to the land around Chernobyl and the environment more broadly.

That’s why he’s being downvoted. The disaster was about more than the body count.

He's not right though... or at best he's being intentionally misleading by listing only immediate/very short term related deaths.

"The total number of deaths, including future deaths, is highly controversial, and estimates range from up to 4,000 (by a team of over 100 scientists) to the Union of Concerned Scientists estimate of approximately 27,000 based on the LNT model, to 93,000—200,000 (by greenpeace).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_due_to_the_Chernobyl_disaster

Ah Komred yes of course I see now

You may remove gun from my sister's head, yes?

For those checking the gallery /u/not_a_lizard-person linked, pictures 13 and 14 feature said foot.

It’s not just Uranium, it’s also full of Zirconium, Plutonium and basically every other Radioative material ever conceived in a giant cocktail that’s still reacting today

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elephant%27s_Foot

The mass is quite dense, unyielding to a drill, but able to be damaged by a Kalashnikov rifle.

I cant help but to wonder about the guy who thought "lemme shoot this and see what happens".

It's below the reactor, and while bad, there are photos of people with it

heres a person next to it

https://i.imgur.com/hH2foWL.jpg

This is sat above the steam pipe sump which held water to cool the reactor. During the disaster it was realised that if this molten uranium melted through the floor it would make contact with the water below causing a steam explosion that would destroy Chernobyl and it's remaining reactors. It would render most of eastern Europe and Belarus uninhabitable for a 150,000 years. It would have possibly also caused a thermonuclear explosion destroying most of northern Ukraine and Kiev. Soldiers sacrificed themselves to drain the radioactive water

I wonder if they'll have a scene of it in the movie?!

Ironically, it's very possible that the escape of corium from the reactor vessel helped reduce the impact of the disaster- it wasn't supposed to happen and it's all pretty nightmarish but it's far from the worst thing that could have happened with unmanaged fuel.

That's more than a bit hyperbolic. Multiple photos exist. Dramatic stories of cameras melting and so forth are absurd. Even the noise in the photo is more likely a result of poor lighting and long exposure settings than radioactive interference.

It is still an extremely dangerous place to go, of course, but the man who has photographed himself next to it on multiple occasions, former Deputy Director of the New Confinement Project Artur Korneyev, is still alive. He was interviewed by the New York Times in 2014.

Plus creepy cancer bears

Rebirth? You mean copying a living thing

Man I should read that, is it as creepy as the film?

in a nutshell the melanin cells are killed and the cells that normally produce that pigment no longer are able to, your eyes go blue.

all cells in your body with a quick turnover rate, die too fast to be replaced. Dying of radiation is perhaps one of the worst deaths

Not him but here ya go https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Pravik

What about the ability to grow your fingernails at will?

Wow, how wierd. The same thing happened with the divers who went into the pool under the reactor and prevented another explosion. They were declared dead as well but are still alive. One died of a heart attack in 2005, but the other two are alive.

Woah holy shit, I never considered that. I'm gonna need to do some reading on that

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You can still visit some, but a lot have now been closed off, especially the ones in Pripyat. Some due to radiation particles apparently, others due to disrepair and obviously a hazard.

Yeah it’s got to be consistent. Mixing it up is utterly pointless.

Of course it’s part of their job. But we’re not talking about authentic regional dialects. We’re talking about verisimilitude-breaking directorial decision-making. About the value of having the cast put on accents instead of speaking the foreign language, usually for little gain. Indeed, as stated above, having a group of actors do generic accents will invariable lead to a collection that are entirely unrelated.

Well live and learn, thanks!

Brother?

I'm also partial to "I’m smiling, but I’m very fucking furious."

That’s pretty incredible considering how large Russia is and how many isolated communities there must have been for centuries.

But would those actors have a strong enough reputation to attract viewers to a movie or show? Star power can be very strong.

Which all of them tend to be.

And the fact Chernobyl is in Ukraine, with much of the radiation landing on Belarus.

Well yeah but my Eurocentric brain assumed that the British somehow might’ve had a lead science team in the Chernobyl nuclear reactor industry. And my brain just accepted that assumption lol

Like “of course! The English probably bought out some land helped make/lead the Chernobyl reactor facility and were then held responsible for its inevitable meltdown”..

Semantics. It's easier to say "taken place in Russia" rather than say

"taken place in the Ukraine, and Russia, but we're talking about the Russian accents not the Ukrainian accents so people don't have something to nitpick about."

And come on, 90% of the world was taught that Chernobyl was a Russian incident not a Ukrainian incident. So unless you've spent your free time studying Chernobyl in depth, there's little chance the average person knows that.

I wouldn't get mad if they used fake American or British accents because I know the movie wasn't made specifically for me

BTW none of movies done from American/British books in USSR/Russian cinema uses fake accent, all actors talk like they used to.

This is not meant with any disrespect, but I’m going to assume you’ve never had to cast a project. While what you suggest is of course ideal, it also ends up limiting the possibilities to a degree in which it may make casting impossible. Also, you don’t put out a casting call for leads. You call their agents. The casting breakdowns would go out for all the other roles at which point it would wonderful to only cast actors capable of doing a Russian accent and are available and are good and might have any bearing on marketing... next thing you know there aren’t any actors left.

But the difference between that and Russian accents is that British people speak English. There's no suspension of disbelief as to why everyone in TheCrown is speaking English.