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Now where do I buy the florist chrysanthemum on amazon

Yea I saw that one but it's unfortunately bonsia so idk

100 bonsia

Are these seeds?

wasn't there an article that said that whilst these plants are capable of removing some of these contaminants in air, they are insignificant next to the amounts present?

Also that there were studies to modify said plant(s) and it really bumped up their absorption rate?

Gensler did an experiment regarding the effects of plants on indoor air quality. They tested a green wall in a conference room vs a control, and measured TVOC, CO2, and PM2.5.

The living wall showed significant, positive improvements to IAQ over the course of our study. The greatest observed effects were on overall levels of CO2 and PM2.5, which showed overall average reductions of 24 percent and 21 percent respectively compared to our control. Importantly, the effect of the living wall is positive not only in the long term, but also over short periods of time. The living wall also proved more resilient. When a disruption occurred, resulting in a spike in measured levels of CO2 and PM2.5, the control room was slower to return to baseline levels than the room with a living wall. This ability to mitigate change is particularly important on days when outdoor air quality is poor, as this has a direct impact on the quality of air indoors.

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I'm thinking that if done properly, you could probably yield pretty decent results overall.

The only issue I see here, is that you would need a fuck ton of plants to make a difference no? A living wall is generally huge

So how would one convert the amount of plants needed to a more realistic example? A wall of flora in a conference room for (60?) people to an apartment of 60\^2 m (2-3 people) or maybe down to say 1 bedroom 10m\^2 (for 1)? If we are talking about the picture at hand, could I just use a couple of "Peace Lilys" (since it takes up all the mentioned air pollutants) and be satisfied with that? What is the effectiveness of 1 plant? Should I have all plants in one room or spread it out throughout the apartment? Do I need different plants that bloom at different time so it cycles? So many questions..

..... C02 is not a contaminant

CO2 concentration in the air does however have a massive effect on cognition

Here is one paper on the topic. The authors investigate a proprietary cognitive benchmark, and experimentally manipulate carbon dioxide levels (without affecting other measures of air quality). They find implausibly large effects from increased carbon dioxide concentrations.

If the reported effects are real and the suggested interpretation is correct, I think it would be a big deal. To put this in perspective, carbon dioxide concentrations in my room vary between 500 and 1500 ppm depending on whether I open the windows. The experiment reports on cognitive effects for moving from 600 and 1000 ppm, and finds significant effects compared to interindividual differences.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/pPZ27eZdBXtGuLqZC/what-is-up-with-carbon-dioxide-and-cognition-an-offer

https://www.gwern.net/zeo/CO2

Fuck, you may have just changed my life

.... Did you read the article? They injected pure c02 into the air because the levels they tested were so unrealistic. You're not going to experience 1000 ppm in your house under any normal circumstances

It's not good for you to be in a room with an excess of CO2.

You're not going to find one of those anywhere

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-carbon-dioxide-in-a-crowded-room-can-make-you-dumber-180948052/

For each group, they pumped in enough pure carbon dioxide to achieve three different concentrations

Way to rtfa

Just 1 percent of CO2 in the air can cause negative effects on human beings.

1% c02 would be several orders of magnitude above normal. Why comment when you are so completely ignorant?

It's interesting that you mention that. I don't know the answer. But I did recently listen to a science show where they interviewed a science team that genetically modified devils Ivy to filter out air. Specifically cancer causing chemicals like formaldehyde. If you are interested I will look it up tomorrow.

yes that's the one. i think i read the article for it.

On top of that, adding plants to a household where someone has dust allergies would create a more negative benefit. While the plants clean the air, you also now have way more nooks and crannies to clean on a regular basis.

Florists chrysanthemum is op

Pls nerf

No, don't follow blizzards lead and ruin plants like they did wow. We need diversity

It's fine, they balanced it so it starts strong but decays over time. Once you take it home then it becomes a Water Logged's Chrysanthemum. It's about half as effective and has a strong chance of drowning.

Edit: Words are hard without tea.

Hot Fuzz vibes.

"She left you cause you fucked a plant?"

Worth noting that some of these are toxic to pets, check up on that before you buy if you have little furry friends.

I was just think that this sort of guide overlapped with a pet toxicity guide would be super helpful.

I did some googling for the ones I wasn’t completely sure of. Lilies and chrysthanthemums are very toxic to pets, and ferns vary in toxicity but generally aren’t a good idea. Spider plants are apparently nontoxic but can make cats nauseous if chewed on. The species of palm listed here appear to be ok but there are some (sago palm being the worst) that are absolutely lethal to cats and dogs. Ivy is also toxic to both as are figs.

This is not a good list if you have pets.

This might be a totally stupid question, are they only toxic to pets if they eat or chew on the plants?

Pollen from lilies is capable of causing respiratory damage to cats just from inhaling it directly. Idk about the others though.

I’m not a vet, just a super paranoid cat mom, so I really couldn’t tell you for sure. The article I read about the spider plant said that they can get sick (and stoned, since spider plants are apparently hallucinogenic to cats) just from chewing on the leaves. Either way, best idea is to just keep the plants out of the house.

Are there any on the list we could have ? My cats eat anything green that I bring in the house. I’m afraid to have any plants or flowers because they will always eat them and I’m never sure if they’re toxic or not

Pretty much, it’s not like your pet can’t be in the same room with them but ingesting then can cause issues

https://www.tailsmart.com/11-detoxifying-plants-that-are-safe-for-cats-and-dogs/

Well duh, they're chock full of formaldehyde and shit! /s

The science checks out

4 out of 18.

Need. More. Plants.

But which ones won't I kill is the question.

I’ve only had luck with the snake plants. My peace lily requires more sun than I can provide and is slowly just falling apart on me

Peace lilies should have low indirect light. Are you giving them too much sun? Overwatering?

I’m in a middle townhome that gets basically no light at all.

The snake plant and the ivy are pretty hardy, I have both at work with no natural light and I water them once a week.

Peace Lilies are basically unkillable in my experience (have killed some of the others).

Even if they look half dead / droopy, just give them some water and they bounce back like magic. As long as they're still green, they're fine.

Also they tolerate very little light as well. 10/10

I always wondered why I had so many comas, then I got a house plant.

God help you if you have pets though, a lot of these (lilies and chrysanthemums in particular) are toxic to and can kill cats and dogs.

But only if they ingest it. Hang them up on a hook from the ceiling.

New Challenge Unlocked --My cat

Day 1: "Hey, cat, look at this hanging plant!"

Day 3: "Where are all of these iron daggers coming from?"

Day 26: "Cat! Where did you get those stilts?!"

Cat: "Where is your god now, human?" starts eating hanging plant

If the dogs and cats eat them just like tide pods are toxic if you eat them.

You underestimate my cat’s determination to seek and destroy all plant life. The only thing I have that she won’t touch is a very spiky cactus.

If you frequently vomit yourself into a coma because you own a printer, plant a Barberton Daisy and it will clear right up. But only after you've woken yourself up with the smelling salts you have lying around.

Already have a peace lily, guess I'm set!

Great! I’ll buy 10 of each.

Too many flowers bring up allergies. Guess I'll just have to give peace a chance.

If you treat it like shit, it won't get flowers anyway. Just some green leaves for you to cut away after a while.

Can anyone tell me which ones require the least amount of sun? My bed room doesnt get a lot of natural light but I'd love more plants.

There was a Ted talk from 2009 on this in which the speaker talks about three plants from this list.

Speaker has experimented and perfected this on his company's building and drastically lowered PM10, PM2.5, and other pollutants as compared to surroundings.

Link for Ted talk: https://youtu.be/gmn7tjSNyAA

Link for his work: https://youtu.be/GWvH9NF-lyc

Save and never look at again

Looked at this guide wondering what plant would be good to filter air for me. Turns out I already have one of the best (peace lily)!

The bacteria in the soil is the control.

Cool

Are those only native American species?

It seems like it from the names.

I don't know and am kinda lazy to search (just woke up, sorry), but do a Google search for the names under the names in blue (the ones in grey), they look like the scientific names of those plants (I might be wrong, though)

The Latin names (the tiny text under the big blue name) is the scientific name so your correct in saying search for that. I didn't think of doing that.

I wonder of there is a bontatist in this thread who could help?

Sweet I already have 4

Which ones are toxic for cats and children? (those will eat everything...)

Now can we have one that’s for edible plants? How efficient is basil or tomatoes?

That's really interesting, but now I feel the need to find out the cheapest, least time-consuming way to achieve total air purity.