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Creates a new world of potential for catfishing.

Porn could get interesting.

Could lead to all sorts of ethical dilemmas like "is this hot teen generated by a computer 19 or 16?"

In the future you probably could upload a picture of your friends mom to a online neutral network A.I and it can generate a porn video for you within a day.

Kinda already can do that.

Especially if it's OP's mom. Just head over to her house with a steak coupon and a camera, and she's good to go.

Yeah, she’s great. She even let me keep the coupon.

Hell, she even gave me a stamp card. Apparently she’s doing a 5 for 1 deal

A frequent flyer card.

She looks you in the eye afterwards. That's a lady right there...

She spits in mine. You're missing out, she's not looking you in the eye for nothing.

if OP’s last name is palmer it would make sense

r/unexpectedoffice

i was waiting for someone... enjoy the karma lol

Have you ever had sirloin steak, honey?

I would take her out to a nice seafood dinner and never call her again.

That would be unethical

Well it's coming at a very difficult time in our balance sheet

Yeah well you cannot fire someone from a family

Meredith?

Floor meat. Vomit mop. Flesh hoover.

Meredith Palmer?

You know Meredith?

Ha. Ok where she at? I’m hungry for her steak

OPs mom is a fucking whore

Not very well

You need A LOT of pictures for it to sample and all in the same lighting as the porn. Hard, but not quite impossible

And you can't forget to hook up the doll or you get a nuclear missile in your house.

+1 for Weird Science reference

So basically just a link to their easy to find Facebook? Got it!

Well for the face, depending on the software you need 1 to 3+ pictures. But even just one HD makes it really realistic with facegen for example, picture found on web.

Also not only you can theoretically bring those characters in a hmm erotic software, you can actually do that in high resolution life like Virtual Reality.

If you can score that many specifically-lit pictures of your friends mom from multiple angles and expressions... you can just bang her. There's no in-between.

Maybe we're all just living in a simulation anyway and the next step is cyber porn?

Sample requirement will probably get smaller just like sample requirement to mimic someone’s voice decreased from a large amount to only 30 seconds.

Sauce?

Asking for a friend, of course...

They're referring to "Deepfake" which is an AI program that stitches a cluster of images to a video. By extrapolating data from a set of images, the computer can create a 'mask' of a person in question, and attach it to another person in a video.

Note: you've probably already seen them, staring Nicolas Cage. Note 2: Both Reddit and Pornhub are actively banning porn releases, as it is categorized as nonconsensual. Additionally, it also opens the floodgate of revenge porn - how do you prove its not you in that video?

Damn, that is quite a mess to think about the legality of... I actually have prosopagnosia (face blindness) so I would NOT be the target audience, I can’t even recognize my own family!!

Are you really going to toss that grenade out there and not provide a link or three?

They're referring to "Deepfake" which is an AI program that stitches a cluster of images to a video. By extrapolating data from a set of images, the computer can create a 'mask' of a person in question, and attach it to another person in a video.

Note: you've probably already seen them, staring Nicolas Cage. Note 2: Both Reddit and Pornhub are actively banning porn releases, as it is categorized as nonconsensual. Additionally, it also opens the floodgate of revenge porn - how do you prove its not you in that video?

Link please? Asking for a friend.

I'm afraid I'll have to let you down for it being that easy. I'm referring to deepfakes, takes a bit more than just one picture, but people have been making porn with other people's faces on it. There was a subreddit that got shut down, and a few of the websites for it have also been shut down. I've heard that you can find some of the software by sailing the high seas.

Can you? Where...

Look up deep fakes my dude

The future is bright

Dopplebanger. Seriously

In VR for the complete “I fucked your mom” feel.

aka Deep Fakes

"In the future you probably could upload a picture of your -friends- mom to a online neutral network A.I and it can generate a porn video for you within a day."

FTFY

They already have something similar called Deepfake.

Or I could just give her an 1/8 of kush and record her doing me live. Like everyone else does

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If you use a set of pictures with people who are legal age but look younger to generate an image, then as a hypothetical if that picture was identical to a image generated from pictures of people who were not legal age but looked older, would one of those pictures be illegal and one of them illegal? Both would be of a person who don't exist, but the "source" of one would be illegal.

Screw Plato, this is going to be the golden age of philosophy.

The reason having sex with children is illegal is not because of their appearance but because they are not considered mature or responsible enough to consent on their own behalf.

There should be nothing wrong with AI generated porn with young faces.

edit: Child was probably a bad word to use here, it seems to be giving people the wrong mental image.

While I suppose theoretically there would be nothing wrong with a childlike representation either, what I had in mind when I wrote this comment was an AI generating a face based off of adults that looked younger than their age or vice versa, like in the parent comment.

THIS IS THE LOLICE, OPEN UP

In Australia it's considered child pornography if you have fictional characters having sex in images if those characters are considered under age. A photo of Bart and Lisa Simpson in sexual poses or video was considered child pornography so can't see this being any different

In Australia, women with no visible labia minora is considered child photography. Or it's banned because it promotes sexualisation of minors. Same with small breasts. As though it's not a perfectly normal thing for adult women too. Fuck this country tbh.

Do your laws and regulations really have that many flaws in them?

Like on average, is that normal where the headline of the laws make sense but the fine print is ridiculously discriminatory or otherwise blatantly flawed?

A bunch of them do yeah. Like this incredibly ridiculous anti-encryption law that just passed.

You mean this law?

Aaahahahaha yeah mate that's the cunt.

Dude wtf. I thought living in America, politicians couldn't get any dumber.

Don't worry I think we still got them beat in the dumb politician department

The headline is always outrageous, and it just gets worse the in fine print.

Yes, you're right. Definitely not the right analogy, but the question was more about the difference between the absurdity of the fine print of laws from different countries.

Something like the significant difference between what is considered child pornography in US and AU.

For example, what is female child porn according to each country?

Australia: "women with no visible labia minora" - u/wi1d3

United States: Below the age of majority (18)

It's pretty basic: if a law is ambiguous (eg. based on a cop/DPP solicitor/judge's subjective perception of age) then it isn't any good as a law.

Laws must be as unambiguous as possible, otherwise you're going to have to clog up the courts with cases because nobody knows where the line is, and you're going to have a chilling effect on creators (which sounds like not that big of a deal until you look at the amount of art that has been prosecuted under pornography and obscenity statutes. There have been notable cases in AU) and cases of specious charges from cops and politicians with an axe to grind.

I can see the concerns that lead to laws like Australia has but if you support the right of people to act in porn and you support the right of free employment without discrimination on immutable characteristics then I don't see how you can say things like "Your tits are too small for you to legally act in this porno". Either the actors are of legal age to work or they aren't, and anything else is discrimination based on appearance of age (and yes, we do have anti-discrimination laws that would apply in any other instance).

Actually after a little more digging, it's women who appear younger than 18, even if they're not.

Perhaps the oddly specific description of an underdeveloped vagina was an example listed as "not appearing 18"?

There was recently a high profile case where a guy was convicted for just talking about his fantasies regarding underage - I wanna say girls, might not have been, difference doesn't matter. There were no pictures, no plans to act, no actual victim, just someone talking dirty. I'm not going to say I condone what he's in to but maybe, just maybe, the panic has gone a bit too far.

Do you have a source on that?

Like half the female population has no visible labia minora.

It's really not a factor that determins age.

Yeah, hence why it's a stupid law. It's considered CP if the woman appears less than 18, regardless of the actual age of the actress.

Mhm.. ok... But my point is that it's not true. I didn't find anything about this bann in Australia. That's why I'm asking for a source.

In also want to stress again that it's doesn't matter what kind of labia you have. It is NO indication of the actresses real or perceived age. Your comment really doesn't makes that clear.

(Source: was a young girl that had swimming class with young girls)

In reality, small breasts or visible labia alone are not enough to determine age. We agree on this.

But the Australian Classification Board do not live in reality it seems, because they have refused classification (in effect banned) several films because the actresses appeared under 18 due to these features.

Here's one thing about it.

Here's another.

Neither talk much about the labia issue, so I'll gladly take the L on that, but the banning of small breasts is a thing that unfortunately happens.

Oh boy. I can't believe this real.

I hate how it's apparently socially acceptable to smear slender women with small breasts (and men who prefer that bodytyp) as childlike and pedophiles.

I didn't mean to come off as agressive. I just wanted to make sure that it's very clearly not even a hypothetical way of determing age.

If you're familiar with the badwomensanatomy subreddit you sure know how many people are convinced that labia size gives some sort of indication of sexual history or age.

Yup I'm subbed, it would be hilarious if it weren't so fucked.

I need to find that half.

I had to get a labia plasty at age 16 cuz I had some insane meat curtains, like bad enough it hurt to wear jeans.

So at 16 I had too much labia minora, after surgery hardly any. Huh. What a weird law.

Damn that sucks. And yeah it's a weird one. Not as cut and dried as I made it out to be, but still an odd one.

What Australian law are you saying dictates that small breasts is considered child pornography?

Not exactly, but this Is what I'm referring to.

Ah, got you. Thanks. You’re probably right with this current government too - they start with deadshit ideas like “censoring the internet”, and then they actually legislate it.

Pretty sure that was the Labour pushing for Internet censorship and an end to small boobs.

The same Labour that just waived through the new legislation on cyber (un)security? I honestly don’t see the difference.

I am outraged that Australia doesn't support the itty bitty titty committee.

I fully support making small boobs illegal. But neat and tidy lady gardens being illegal is just madness.

You do realize that women with large breasts aren't a large percentage of the population, right?

You do realise >!I'm!< joking right?

You are wrong. That is not a thing in Australia.

It sort of is though.

Wrong. It never happened.

That's just an outrage piece with a quote from an activist.

Ok, got a source for that?

The onus is on you to prove it pal. I can't prove a negative.

No but you can provide evidence to show that my position is wrong if that's is what you're claiming.

It would seem that small breasts are not banned per se, but depictions of women appearing less than 18 are refused classification (banned), regardless of their actual age.

You cannot provide any link to a government policy about small breasts or labia's, can you?

I can't link you to a government document that says a policy doesn't exist, that's absurd.

Feminism, not even once.

As it should.

The heat really gets to you guys huh? That's just ridiculous.

I think I see what you did there?

r/lolice

not clicking that mate

I did and now I'm ashamed

Loli. It's...fucking loli.

/r/animemes is leaking

That argument doesn't stand up to the laws against drawn child porn. Not saying they're right or wrong, just that the legal precedent (at least in parts of the US) is against you.

I didn't realize that was the case in the US, my mistake.

Cykablyatto

Thinks back to Russia's most popular pornhub category

FBI, LOLICE DIVISION, OPEN UP!

It's NOT the case in most of the US, just some places.

I was under the impression it wasn't illegal in any of the US, there was a supreme court thing and they ruled it was protected under free speech or something.

It honestly depends. I think some states do criminalize it, that said I think it is rare they go after those people.

So was I, but apparently not, if Gallican is correct.

He's wrong and likely thinking of another country recently mentioned on Reddit (maybe Australia?) that outlawed certain cartoons / drawings.

Isn't Lolicon legal though??

Depends on the state. Utah explicitly bans it, California explicitly permits it. The federal stance is that unless it's indistinguishable from a real minor, or is made from a real model, then it's okay. But statewise it varies.

Wth, how is this making it's way to court, I'd have hoped things were clear cut.

Well, considering how variable humans look, I don't think drawn porn is going to be extremely clear cut. Hell, the law gets confused when an actual person looks young.

So now you draw, or create via neural network, a young girl and say she's 14. The law says "no sir, this is fucked up." You draw the same girl, say she's 18, the law says, "wait... hm... this is fucked up?" In real life we at least can discover their real age, but now there is no real age because there's no real person. Now shit gets confusing.

I'm all for letting AI guess the ages of cartoons and going off that.

"Sorry buddy, the robot did some calculations and decided that you raped that cartoon."

This robot said your drawing is 17. Good luck in prison.

This is what I get for downloading that Kim Possible fuck toon.

I mean, maybe we should just ban drawn porn altogether? That seems like the only viable option, and I've heard a few countries are considering it.

That's a good question but the answer is, "Why?" Let's not lose sight of the purpose: protecting the week from abuse. Who is abused by a drawing? The artist? No, it's his own choice. The viewer? No, that'st a consenting adult.

Just don't show it to a minor and I don't see the issue.

The issue is that it's a loophole. It gives pedophiles a reprieve, when they're not supposed to have one. Also, if you allow explicit sexual depictions of minors on paper, then these neural networks will be dragged into it. And if PornHub ever ponies up the money for one, then they can set it to "toddler" and rake in the pedo bucks.

Do you think these laws exist just to make pedophiles unhappy or something?

It's to protect minors and make sure these sick fucks don't get their release.

You prefer the pedophiles be looking at real CP? If they're satisfying their urges with drawings, isn't that a win-win?

Think about the main purpose of such laws.

Is it to prevent certain people from getting off in certain ways?

Or is it to protect certain people from being harmed in certain ways?

I'm pretty sure Pornhub actually has greater ethical principles than that.

u/Katie_Pornhub care to comment?

That is a massive overstep and would be damn near impossible to do in the US.

So Hentai is a nono? Because they appear to me like very childish (you know what I mean) drawings in a lot of cases. Like very cutely drawn school girls, etc.

I think that's a bit of a grey area. In some states, if it could at all be said to be depicting an underage character at all, you're a pedophile. On a federal level, it has to be indistinguishable from a real underage person.

I personally always found this a little bit hypocritical. Like people find girls sexy, find out they are 17 or 16 and then are magically "turned off" which I just don't believe (they might due to the implications but not in their perception). I mean it's a science fact that the broad majority (unconsciously) find a woman attractive the more she has "childish" features (especially the face).

And people seem to equate that (underaged, which in my books means not 18) to pedophilia but last time I checked (and that was just now)

Pedophilia is used for individuals with a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children aged 13 or younger.

And Hentai just isn't that I would say (I'm not into it, just from what I gathered). So equating that to CP or pedophilia is just... ARGH I just hate when words lose their actual meaning and everyone is talking about different things.

Like I said, not right or wrong. I won't talk about my or others proclivities. I'm just talking about legal precedent in my area.

I think this is also the case for EU countries; I was once looking for a specific hentai (nothing childporn related, it was Bible Black) and found a site through google but the site was locked because it contained childporn so I assume that it was due to the site containing hentai that depicted minors.

u/FBIguy u/misterfbiman This is the guy right here

If a elementary school teacher has a computer full of child AI porn, then there is something very wrong with that.

okay, but they would have been a pedo either way. Then at least we can sometimes tell when someone is a pedo or not without them having to break the law

But isnt the fear that seeing this legal child/young teen pornography would incite a predator to target real children. This is the reason for banning child sex dolls in most first world countries.

Leave it to Reddit to see this post and think "how will child porn be legal using this?"

in 2035 with this tech in addition to VR, it actually might become a real problem

However normalization of such a thing could very potentially lead to crimes against actual minors of similar types. It’s just like how hate speech leads to hate crimes.

Or it will decrease pedos urges and eliminate pedophiliac crimes altogether

So it either increases it or decreases it and there’s no way to know which?

It's probably really hard to study.

I mean, what would the study look like?

Double blind. Give 1000 participants porn. Some portion of which is of underage girls. Wait 10 years and see which ones rape kids.

This is why I'm not a scientist.

Or both because people respond differently to things

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I understood this reference.

He's not talking about child sex, he's talking about child porn.

Child porn is illegal because to make it you need to abuse children, which society deems unethical. It's deemed so bad that to curb the supply, even the demand is made illegal. So you can't own it. Even hi tech companies that need the data in order to filter for CP are highly regulated and can't own CP.

If you could create it without abusing children, the basis of the illegality goes away. Some might still deem it still immoral but the reasoning would be wrong. Like duh, if I can make a horror movie about murder without actually murdering anyone, it's legal!

If you could create it without abusing children, the basis of the illegality goes away.

Well, no, because the basis is that it is harmful.
It would still be considered harmful, because it still sexualises minors.

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It’s harmful to children when they are depicted in the content. That’s why it’s illegal. It’s got nothing to do with sexualising minors. It’s about the abuse of minors and profiting from said abuse.

Portrayal of sexual abuse in media is not an issue in itself, but rather the presentation of it as desirable or acceptable.

Yes, sexualising minors is in fact the issue, because that is what enables and reinforces the harmful thoughts which can lead to harmful behaviours.
Importantly, the same media that portrays such sexual exploitation of minors as acceptable or desirable can be used in 'grooming' actual living breathing children.

Thus there is value in acting to reduce that risk.

 

Fashion and beauty industries already sexualise minors. As does the entertainment industry at large.

I would consider this to be part of the problem, yes.
Not sure what the point is here.

 

CP is the result of minor abuse, not sexualisation.

I'm pretty sure it's both.

If the individual isn’t real, you can’t have a victim of abuse.

Reinforcing sexual desires and behaviours whose focus is children is harmful.
You act as though only the underage character or person is at risk, when the adult engaged in the behaviour is hardly what one could consider 'well-adjusted' or 'healthy'.

Again, the material can also be presented to a real underage person in order to normalise the behaviour and make them more open to sexual abuse.

 

Your argument is more or less identical to every tired attempt to equate video games with violence and shooting people, because it glorifies it. Which is nonsense.

Unfortunately violent media kind of does make people more prone to violence...
Not everyone, but at least some of the population, and the risk would be considered greater for young people who are still developing.

You also ought to consider the form the violence takes; whether it is portrayed as acceptable or desirable, and whom it targets.
So for example, a WWII first-person shooter where one hunts down and kills Nazi combatants? Not any particular risk of harm there.
A game where one hunts down and violently sexually assaults people of a specific gender and/or ethnicity, and it's portrayed as morally just and presented in a manner that aims to provide sexual gratification to the player? Probably not really any positive effect there, and likely harm.

Narratives in media do shape thoughts and behaviour, and it is the narrative perhaps more than any aspect of content in isolation that presents the risk.

If no child is involved then it's only potentially harmful. Many potentially harmful things are legal.

If no child is involved then it's only potentially harmful.

No, you don't understand: the harm lies in sexualising minors in and of itself, because children exist in the world.

Animals exist on the world, but all that furry shit is still legal

Animals exist on the world, but all that furry shit is still legal

You know furries aren't generally into bestiality, right?
... right?

Women exist in the world. Rape porn is legal.

People exist in the world. Movies depicting them being violently mutilated or killed for entertainment are legal.

Does the Saw franchise encourage people to kidnap and torture random strangers?

Women exist in the world. Rape porn is legal.

Probably ought to have said "people", since women aren't the only people who can be raped.
That said, there's an easy rebuttal: rape fantasies generally involve adults, and it is not considered harmful to find adults sexually attractive.

Furthermore, rape-play is an extreme form of domination-&-submission, with the acting out of such fantasies involving consenting adults and (generally and ideally) a hell of a lot of trust and forethought and aftercare.

The argument that sexualisation of minors is harmful because children exist is because reinforcing any sexual urges towards minors places them at risk, and the material can be utilised for 'grooming' children for future abuse.

If any person has a rape fantasy, they can find ways to engage in that safely.
If any person has a 'sex with a child' fantasy, there are no safe ways to engage in that, and normalising the urges rather than addressing them through psychiatric therapy is extremely ill-advised.

 

People exist in the world. Movies depicting them being violently mutilated or killed for entertainment are legal.

There is a distinction to be made between the representation of violence in any form, and the presentation of that violence as desirable.
Likewise a piece of fiction can portray sexual abuse without condoning it; this is not the case for media that presents underage characters for the purpose of sexual gratification of the viewer.

Supportive of this is the impact that narratives in media have on individual and public perceptions; it is not the case that entertainment does not affect thought and behaviour, and this is something to always bear in mind when creating or indulging in it.

 

Does the Saw franchise encourage people to kidnap and torture random strangers?

That would depend upon the individual's propensity towards violence, but it certainly will encourage violent and vengeful behaviour in a subset of the population.
I suppose the primary distinction, based on the evidence, is whether the viewer considers it to be gratifying or horrifying.

Or are you suggesting that media has no effect on those that consume it?

There's no evidence that this is harmful

There's no evidence that this is harmful

Oh, never mind, apparently you're actually a paedophile.

Get help.

 

Sources to back up the assertion that you are a paedophile:

You say that sexualised underage characters is "half the reason [you] watch anime".

You outright admit that you masturbate to underage characters.

You claim that "Western people need to stop being so sensitive" about the sexualisation of clearly-underage characters.

You try to equate being Queer with being a paedophile.

 

Hair-splitting over the definition, whilst actively engaging in apologism for sexualising minors.

"Some 12 year old girls are pretty developed. You're only a pedo if you're attracted to pre-pubescence."

"People against loli really suck at justifying why it is bad."

"Nah, kids are gross. I like fictional lolis because they can enjoy sex. I don't really care if it's morally ok, I'll just do what I enjoy thanks."
"Minors can enjoy sex"

"westerners can't separate reality from fiction when it comes to sex, and the Japanese population can."

"This only makes sense if people disposed to sexually abusing children are the ones who enjoy and consume loli porn; but no research shows that this is the case. Studies show the opposite, in fact."
(Note: No citation of these sources at all.)

That's a lot of research for something that I can just reject by saying that I'm not attracted to prepubescence.

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petite innocent girls

Fucking yikes.

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I'm pretty sure liking petite body shape and innocent personality are standard enough that calling it "sick" is a bit ridiculous

Except that's a thought crime which isn't really a thing. The intent of the law is to prevent harm to actual human beings. Not to prevent people from having wrong thoughts.

Except that's a thought crime which isn't really a thing.

It is a mental health issue.
I might remind you that individuals can be detained against their will if they are considered to pose a threat to their own self, never mind others.

The intent of the law is to prevent harm to actual human beings.

You would not consider developing and reinforcing a sexual attraction to minors to be harmful?
You would not consider that the material can be used in 'grooming' of real-world children to be harmful?
You would consider paedophilic desires to be healthy or acceptable, and not a mental health issue that poses a criminal threat?

 

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What happens when the computer-generated character is an exact replica of a real underage person, perhaps known to the watcher? Does computer-generation absolve the watcher of the motive for wanting to watch kiddy porn?

It's not as wrong, arguably not wrong enough to be illegal, but to say that there's nothing wrong with it is ridiculous.

It's still normalizing pedophilia, which is just unhealthy and WRONG!

This thread led me to a moral/ethical philosophical question.

If a super popular PornHub Content Provider, let's say SisLovesMe, cuz I have seen it mentioned a few times lately, and it's always on the front page of porn hub, were to get caught using underage actresses, how would that make you feel knowing you had watched those actresses? I'm not asking anyone in particular, just responded here because it seemed to fit the flow.

I think this Is along the same lines as someone cooks a Muslim/Jew a meal and they love it but it was made in a non halal/kosher way but the person was led to believe it was. There is no blame because how could one have known. They took reasonable precautions and were intentionally fooled.

This has happened Traci Lords. I wasnt terribly bothered by it. By the time someone is old enough to pass I think they are probably old enough to make that decision.

It wouldn't bother me because I think these age laws are ridiculous here in the USA. I think the legal age should be 16, not 18, because it has been proven that women mature far more earlier/quickly then men do (IIRC it's around 24 for women and around 40 for men, mentally speaking) and really, what difference does 2 years make? If I've been dating a girl since her freshman year of high school and my sophomore year, she's 14 and I just turned 16. We date all throughout high school and when I'm a senior and turn 18, it's now illegal in the eyes of the law for me to have sex with my girlfriend of many years, and won't be legal for me to do so for another 2 years. This is disregarding the whole "with parents permission" stipulation though.

I'm 33 if it matters, and I probably don't think it's that odd because my parents are 7 years apart, they met when my mom was 15 and my dad was 21 in the early 70s. My previous girlfriend was 6 years younger than me as well.

I mean we already have loli hentai so this wouldn't be that different.

Always cool when pedophiles self-identify

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Oh hey, an acephobic cockroach.

NPC has called you a _phobe.

taps X to see if NPC will give different response

Jesus christ, the NPC meme? You are such a fucking manchild oh my god.

hahaha the NPC meme really seems to strike a cord with you people. wonder why

Perhaps because everything about it is just as insufferable as the troglodytes that use it?

nobody gets this salty about a meme unless they realize theres some truth to it

They're from SRS. Not here for an argument in good faith. Wouldn't waste your name, I usually just laugh at how upset they get and move on.

That's cute coming from a TiA user. You wouldn't know good faith if it was beating you over the head.

I'm not the one coming from a linking sub to make a biased comment against OP. When you understand what an apples-to-apples comparison is you let me know. "Cute" indeed.

Let me ask you, why are you defending pedophile apologists?

I'm not. Let me ask you, why do you think putting words in my mouth (yes, that is what you are doing) makes you look any more ready to discuss in good faith?

Putting words in your mouth? You literally came into a thread where I was calling out a pedophile to defend the person attacking me.

You are literally defending pedophile apologists, my guy.

Eh, there’s a social argument for this. Do we want to condone the justification of actions that might have real world consequences?

I don’t know the answer to this, which is why it’s an ethical dilemma, but let’s say:

Allowing a person to look at AI porn of underage people significantly increases the probability of some other action that is illegal.

Does this matter?

I don't think we actually know that it would increase the probability of something like that happening. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if it did, but I won't make that claim without research to back it up. I also don't think that Call of Duty makes kids more likely to shoot up schools, but I'll change my mind if research shows I'm wrong.

There should be nothing wrong with AI generated porn with young faces.

FYI it doesn't matter if CP is real or animated. It's still considered CP.

Sure, theoretically. Good luck telling that to the average American.

Gray areas like this are a bitch politically. To me if no one is harmed there's no crime but it's definitely not an issue I'd ever fight for. Also I love your username.

Sony doesn't agree with you.

You're correct, and that's why most places don't care much about 2D loli porn or such in any form. Only real life instances, fictional characters have no rights or representation to our laws nor do we to uphold our laws regarding them. Lewd away.

They have anime where the characters look pretty much like children. This is probably quite similar. If that is legal, then AI generated CP could very likely be legal too. Maybe it might be illegal to create but not illegal to possess and watch, as long as you aren't selling it?

Would you sell your childhood photos and videos to become CP and not feel a bit violated by it even if you did agree? Philosophical question open to anyone really.

Hmmm lolification

Wanting to rape children is a mental illness. We really shouldn’t be normalizing it.

How is that wanting to rape children

Jacking off to simulated child pornography implies a desire to rape children.

No it doesnt some poeple cant help the attraction they are born that way or its because of trauma in youth its not okay to fuck kids but some people cant help it and this helps them not want to rape rape children so its good by me

If they are attracted to children, then they want to rape children. Whether or not they act on it is a different topic.

this helps them not want to rape rape children so its good by me

This normalizes their attraction, which is wrong and unhealthy. Pedophilia is a mental disorder that should not be coddled or normalized.

By that logic if you are attracted to anyone, you want to rape them.

No? Adults are capable of consenting to sex. Children are not. By definition, pedophilia is the desire to rape children.

Ok so what you're saying is that attraction to someone who is unable to consent is a desire to rape, yes?

By that logic, finding a drunk person attractive is a desire to rape.

You keep on using the phrase “by that logic” as if your logic is sound. By all means, continue to make categorical errors. Nobody is a priori attracted to drunk people as a category, and if the were, that would be considered a sexual disorder, just like pedophilia.

What I'm getting from this is that you have issues with wanting to sexually assault people that you find attractive, otherwise you wouldn't be basing your argument upon 'attraction = desire to rape'.

Reinforcing harmful behaviours is certainly a valid argument, but not alongside your faulty assumptions.

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I can't tell if you're trolling or just genuinely this oblivious, but allow me to explain:

Most people can find someone attractive and also acknowledge that they should not have sex with that person or do not want sexual interactions with that person. At the very least, they will acknowledge that they should not force themselves on that person.

If you think that finding someone sexually attractive is equivalent to wanting to rape them, that is a personal problem for you to discuss with a professional.

 

I would hope that everyone is aware children cannot provide meaningful consent, and that apologism for sexualisation of minors and child abuse is a very serious issue, but you do yourself no credit by misrepresenting the matter.

“Oh, I don’t want to murder a person, I just want to stab them in the chest and throat twenty times.”

A sexual attraction to children cannot be practiced without rape. It is a desire to rape children. You can play these games all you want. Facts are facts.

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Playing Devil's Advocate, does that mean BDSM and rapeplay need to be banned, because they simulate sexual assault and/or rape?

BDSM and raceplay can be entirely consensual. Children cannot consent to sex. These are categorically different things.

Yes BDSM and rapeplay are allowed. But, by your logic, BDSM and rapeplay implies a desire to actually sexually assault or rape someone, and would therefore need to be banned.

I was seeing raceplay, not rape play.

BDSM is not inherently rapeplay. Conflating the two is just categorically incorrect.

Rapeplay is problematic. It is not a healthy form of sex. So yes, I agree that those into rapeplay should probably consider that their sexual desires aren't healthy.

Should we ban furries since animals can't consent to sex?

We should normalize it because then pedophiles will be more willing to get therapy and not bottle up their desires. Prove me wrong.

Honestly, normalizing, and subsequently treating, these thoughts is absolutely the best step. Let someone know that being mentally I'll is fine if you seek treatment, and then actually give them treatment instead of siccing then police on them when they gave your their implicit trust. There are plenty of pedophiles that don't indulge because it's wrong to indulge in something that exploits others. They understand their illness but can't receive treatment.

About animals then

yes their is something wrong with generating false images of young people in porn. It creates unhealthy and perverted responses in the brain making it easier for pedophiles to justify their wickedness. Believing its real is the crime. People who are attracted to children are fucked in the head and that is where the crime is committed before its enacted. If you have sexual thoughts about a child you are committing a crime. The only reason you sick fucks get away with it is because we cant read your mind. The fact that people like you exist is traumatizing on the public's psyche. Death to all pedophiles even for the ones who molest children in their fantasies.

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I’m trying to connect the dots here and hoping you’re not saying what I think you are saying, given the context.

Sounds more like the problem is capitalism.

If you hire an 18 year old and pay them to say and act like they are 14 what's the legality on that. I'm pretty Shure that's the precidence that will be used.

Go to any pornsite. Look at all the weird daddy-daughter, step-sister, teacher-student, etc. porn and tell me this isn’t already happening. I think it called age play. Also, don’t google that.

This guy loopholes

You're definitly on a list now.

I feel like when you think "let's hypothetically defend pedophilia u should just stop right there

Except that discussing this leads to information that can help prevent actual rape. If you think demonizing pedophilia is more important than finding out how to help children then you're an idiot

That depends on where you are. Some places have laws that condone arrest of the person in the pornlooks like they're under age. I guess in stone places they'd kill you. Different places, different rules.

Yes, one of them would be illegal, while on the other hand one of them would be illegal.

Just imagine the ethical dilemmas once robotic creations become indistinguishable from authentic, organic life forms.

Ever since humans were able to draw stick figures this has been a dilemma.

Sounds like an episode of L&O:SVU or Black Mirror, depending on how far it’s taken.

There was a law and order svu episode about something similar to this. Some website was taking legal aged porn actresses and using computer technology to make them appear like children. Don't really remember most of the episode beyond them saying it wasn't illegal since they were of legal age.

Edit: Episode is called Appearances

Context matters a lot. Imagine a video of a space rocket burning and exploding after the takeoff (from a bystander perspective). If you then learn that a) the flight was unmanned or b) there were 10 passengers onboard, the exact same footage will elicit different feelings in you.

I can barely wait for Reddit neckbeards to justify their cp.

"No, no, you don't get it. She looks 12, but the AI that created her says that she is 21.

Is it wrong though? We kill a bunch of pixels already, and Im pretty sure killing is wrong.

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There's already a very clear line that we shouldn't cross: Violence.

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We don't all pretend to be rapists, or that raping pixels is okay. Morals and ethics sit on sliders, (this isn't a slippery slope argument but I could make one) and they can be externally influenced to change. Let's not.

Comparing photo realistic cp to shooting obvious animation characters in a video game is a little bit of a stretch don't you think? Not everyone playing a game like GTA is a murderer (I hope), but every person enjoying cp is definitely a pedo.

Real or something that's indistinguishable from the real thing, the one is just worse than the other. Are people here honestly defending cp.....?? The fuck is wrong with you all.

Thank you. Reddit is weirdly protective about cp.

Right?! It's Insane and no one is realising it. They should all be on a list.

Your analogy is entirely wrong. You can't compare an action in one case and a state of being in the other. If everybody that enjoys cp is a pedo then everybody that enjoys GTA is prone to violence. Doesn't mean in to the case that the person will ever commit a crime.

Is that what you took from my comment? Maybe I should've worded it differently, but being prone to violence/being prone to murder, it doesn't change my point.

People here are disgusting, on an entirely different level. This whole thread makes me sick.

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And just like that, the computer has millions of nude images.

Not after ThotAudit it won't.

You could train neural networks on what underage faces look like using everyday pictures, doesn’t have to be CP.

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...computers tell her she’s a lol

FTFY

No you're missing the point. If NVIDIA's computer scanned the Pornhub database and watched every video, it would have a catalogue of every mainstream legal porn video (assuming the vast majority of porn on PH is legal).

This could then be used to generate artificial pornography on demand. The user would be able to create their own virtual porno and it would all appear to be 100% real. They could input something like:

Age group, particular fetish, 4 people involved They could even choose certain preferences, like having 2 brown haired people and 2 blondes, or any other sexualised feature such as large breasts.

Obviously, this technology is still in its infancy but I feel like this could be how we all view porn in the future. Bonus: it would also make CP easier to track by authorities, as pedophiles will then make up the majority of people who still follow the "traditional" method of finding real videos on the internet.

infancy

So maybe we can use some kind of technology to artificially adjust the age 🤔

why would they have to load thousands of CP photos into the computer in order to make it so that it DOESNT make any CP..?

Neural networks must be trained from data before they can be used to recognize or generate new data.

Generate new data- why would you want the neural network to generate child pornography sir...? Lol

Not sure I know what you mean. I was saying its unethical to make a 16 year old generated image/video bc it would require actual cp to make.

Or just use pictures of their face, that would be acceptable... especially if it meant one less child raped.

It could mean that, or it could mean 100s-1000s of law abiding people crossing a threshold they otherwise wouldn't have if not given the option.

But if crossing the threshold produces no net harm, isn’t it intrinsically good?

Or take pics of every 18 year old on the planet. This gets pretty creepy pretty fast.

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Pedophilia relates to prepubescent children. Hebephilia is the attraction to pubescent children.i.e teenagers generally.

Guaran-fucking-tee they'll do that with the CP the FBI collects for purposes of future recognition. Then it could easily leak out.

From what I’ve read on here it’s only illegal if you download them? I could see scumbag people trying to make a buck by circumventing the laws about it

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Won’t that just spawn a bunch of porn snobs looking for pure, artisanal amateur?

Kinda like how machines can make thousands of extremely accurate watches each day, but people pay hundreds of thousands to have some Swiss dude make one from scratch with his own hands

Correct. There's a certain price that people will always pay for "nature" of the sorts. E.g: organic foods. They will be shifted to the high end niche, but as for mass-production, the machines always prevail.

People pay $60 for raw, untreated water, so I agree. There’s always a wealthy idiot who will pay for “authentic” stuff.

You say that like there are no benefits at all to any organic foods.

The only benefits I can see are avoiding certain pesticides.

Do remember though that organic foods are not pesticide free. Organic foods are just grown with different--organic--pesticides.

Yeah, that’s mainly what I was thinking, although they do grow them with different fertilizers and harvest them in different ways too.

A huge part of porn is the emotional aspect - could be pleasure, pain, embarrassment, lust etc. I don't see CGI replacing that.

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Not as cheaply as just making regular porn, at least afaik. Haven't heard on the topic for a few years now, so the tech might be significantly more efficient now.

I think it would be pretty easy. If the “people” generated are indistinguishable then why wouldn’t their actions and emotions be too?

Take your example of embarrassment. Embarrassment porn exists, but the guy or girl wilfully participating is likely not actually embarrassed, they are an actor after all and agreed to it. They’re just faking it, so what would be the difference if a computer generated it?

Good CGI is indistinguishable from reality.

Because the acting is so good. A machine could never create a believable pizza delivery boy.

Not talking about acting. When an 18 year old girl gets an 8 inch dick rammed in her ass she isn't acting like it hurts.

Artis anal amateur. Lol

I saw a movie about artisan porn recently. I think it was called "A Serbian Film."

You should check it out.

Not until we have pornbots. With a human actor there’s always the possibility of meeting them.

Still 0 percent chance of gettin any from them tho

Unless your name is Donald.

Thus the plot to westworld starts

It's real shame and pain or nothing, thank you very much!

That being said, seeing virtual Myspace era Tom Hardy gangbang himself would be okay I suppose ...

Not only porn but ads. They will have a CGI supermodel way cheaper than a real one. It will be so common and cheap that anyone will be able to install a model generator app to use in their designs and advertise their products.

Eventually they will integrate it with social networks and you will be able to have a custom model to each user seeing your ad. Black people will see a black model, for example.

They even could create a model very similar to the person seeing the ad, so they can see themselves as a consumer of that brand, but different enough to the person don't blame them for using their likeness.

Need to cross the uncanny valley first.

This link explains it better than I can: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

Did you see the photos here? They’re getting close...

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Why put the work into cgi when nature does it better anyway?

This is equivalent of "automation will put a lot of people out of the job market"

the plot of the movie CAM

This implies that people only do porn for money. Sure, there might not be as many “professional” pornstars, but there will always be people who will film themselves doin the hibbity dibbity and will share it for others to see.

Did you miss the deepfakes fiasco? It's already getting interesting.

Ok so in all seriousness; if some pedo watches deepfake cp, is that illegal?

In the US, yes. The legal definition of child pornography includes any visual diction where such visual depiction is indistinguishable from that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct.

We should note that it includes what's drawn

I imagine this is one of those areas where legislation hasn't caught up with reality yet, and it would be up to interpretation of how existing laws would reasonably be applied to scenarios unthought of at the time of the law's conception.

To take this line of thought a bit further: should it be legal? Regardless of your views of pedophilia, it seems hard/impossible to change/cure. A subset of the population experiences a deep-set want for stimulation of that itch. There is a demand, and this demand is currently met by abuse - in person or on tape. Could this be a way to provide a victim-less release for people who view their own condition as a burden they will never get to shed?

You can look at this the same way cartoon CP. it has no victims either. From what I remember last time that I saw that discussed is that it’s really up in the air. Some people have been prosecuted for it

It isn't the government's job to enforce morality - it's meant to enforce safety. Unless very strong evidence that "porn is a gateway to sexual assault" is presented, and as long as all participants are consenting adults (or not people at all,) then it absolutely should be legal.

I think pedophiles are already starting to be treated too kindly, but this is a first amendment and general liberty issue to me.

I don't have a source, but someone else in this thread said that "studies" have shown that CP doesn't satiate urges, it makes them stronger, and therefore the person would be more likely to do something IRL. Now, whether that's correct or not I don't know, but if it is then I believe it all should be illegal.

The same way porn encourages rapes? /s

I'm gonna call bullshit. If I'm horny jerking off will take care of that.

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What about enforcing drivers licenses and plate tags? Nothing to do with morals. Or what about drug laws?

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And what about drug laws and scheduling? Is it the government's job to tell me what is and isn't moral? Anne to what degree?

This all depends on the drug.

But yes, unrestrained drug use causes a negative effect on society. Drug addicts in particular have a higher crime rate than the average person as well as cause higher medical costs (relevant in societies with "free" medical).

Is it the government's job to tell me what is and isn't moral?

That would, at least partially be part of governing. I can't answer that fully though because depending on what political philosophy you follow, you'll have a different answer.

And* to what degree?

That would be the number 1 question that every philosopher and government has asked themselves. There isn't a correct answer, there's probably a morally correct answer, or more accurately morally incorrect answers, but what they are is up for debate.

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Murder would violate morals. Killing, we have capital punishment, police/military use deadly force as needed . Government doesnt , or isn't meant to, enforce morality.

Also to add, the government differentiates between murder and manslaughter.

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The law said slaves were 3/5ths a person at one point. Definitely not based on morality, had to do with congressional seating.

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And what about abortion?

So that there is some minimum skill levels drivers must have

Because the government needs a stream of revenue and a ways to enforce a backdoor national ID program.

It has nothing to do with minimum level of skills as any objective review of the Licensing system shows that to be a farce.

Because we don't want incompetent drivers accidentally killing people.

Yet even with licensing and thousands of armed officers who claim to enforce traffic laws we still have incompetent drivers killing people by the thousands every year.... It is almost like that entire thing in a revenue scam and has nothing to do with safety at all

Why do we want to avoid unnecessary killing? Because it violates our moral principles

Because the government as an monetary interest in keeping its tax base alive, however it also has an interest in keeping bad drivers on the road so they can keep fining them for that sweet revenue, it is careful balancing act to maximize both fine and tax revenue so they allow a few tax payers to be killed because the fines generated by bad drivers more than covers the revenue loss from those they kill

It has nothing to do with morality

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And you laid out why the government should not enforce morality. Which was the original comments point.

See I disagree with the current Drivers Licensing program, I believe it should be skills based, and not a national ID Program. I believe it should be a logical, objective, rules and ethics based system, not a morals based system

Well, technically yes that's the definition of morality, but I bet he meant that it's not the job of the government to enforce morality beyond what directly (or maybe indirectly) affects other people.

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No it means that they think actions that don't hurt other people shouldn't be crimes.

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Many people use morality to describe right or wrong excluding acts that cause personal harm. Language is fluid. Your failure to understand this less abstract form of the concept of morality is the cause of confusion here.

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No they're not. Language changes over time. Take an intro linguistics class if you want to know more.

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Morality cannot be legislated. You can’t legislate morals.

-- MLK Jr

Law cannot prescribe morality.

-- MacIver

There is more to the usage of a word than its dictionary definition.

It’s not even “safety”. Law should be based on real harms. That is independent of morality.

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Morals are all based on personal belief. What you may consider a moral I may not. With that said...

Harm should be avoided because it prevents people from doing what they want to do.

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Morals are all based on personal belief. What you may consider a moral I may not.

Harm prevents people from doing what they want to do.

So do laws. :/

Because the mechanism that reciprocates protection from harm for others also protects you from harm. It’s strictly utilitarian. There’s no morality needed. It’s a Positive argument, not a Normative one.

You can base a Normative sense of morality on top of it, and people have for a long time. Long enough that people are convinced the Normative morality is the basis for reciprocal protection. But it’s not required.

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I didn’t suggest it had to be part of Utilitarianism as a philosophical system. Using a claw-hammer to remove a nail is utilitarian, but not a moral concern.

Protection from harm is not a moral concern. You don’t care why someone harms you. The harm is the harm. The downside is already part of the definition of harm. If someone smashes your thumb with a hammer, you don’t have to appeal to a sense of moral wrongness. It simply hurts, in a profound and obvious way. It is a direct harm.

If you had to choose between morally chastising someone for hurting your thumb, or preventing the pain, you would choose preventing the pain. The moral layer is a waste of resources and accomplishes nothing on its own that is superior to solving the harm itself.

The morality doesn’t exist. It’s a made up concept. You can’t point to it, measure it, observe it, or objectively discuss it in constrained parameters with other people of differing opinions. It ranks with spirituality, souls, psychic powers, and ghosts. There are volumes written on all of them.

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Let's perform another experiment. Someone else smashes you in the head with a hammer killing you. Do you care what their reasoning was? Or was it just morally wrong?

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I disagree. You just smashed in the guy's head. I think it was morally appropriate for that person to smash in your head before you could do more harm.

I covered this already. The harm is self evident. Adding an extra layer where we call it “morally wrong” adds no new information.

It is immoral to murder, thus murder is illegal. All law exists to enforce morality.

False, you can probably make a case that ethics drive why murder is illegal but not really morality.

Governments enforce ethics, not morality

Murder is immoral to you as that is your personal morality, murder may not be immoral to say a serial killer as that person has a different set of morals.

Morality is subjective and when governments attempts to enforce morality that is how we end up with Totalitarian states, and bad things generally happen.

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Did you really just quote the dictionary, jesus....

I will raise you a modern rebuttal in a video form

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drxrd2LSydY

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Religious education?

ROFL.... I am Libertarian Atheist that has a near pathological hatred for all organized religion.... but yes Religious education is where my position comes from

What this man is saying is far from the philosophical mainstream.

It is not an uncommon position, that is just one video I quickly found, there are many others.

Here are some others

https://www.ethicsdefined.org/what-is-ethics/morals-vs-ethics/

https://www.britannica.com/story/whats-the-difference-between-morality-and-ethics

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Ethics_vs_Morals

Aside from that, libertarians like myself generally believe morality is personal value system largely based on subjective and personal choices and how you choose to live your life, where ethics are external to ones self and are largely about how you interact with others.

So for example I may not believe it moral to consume drugs, but as a libertarian it would not be ethical for me to prevent you from consuming drugs as it your life, and your body so my morality on that subject does not pertain to you. That is the libertarian difference between ethics and morality.

Similarly I believe Religion of all type is immoral, and largely a net negative for humanity, however it would not be ethical for me to attempt to forcibly prevent people from worshiping sky fairies

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The distinction between ethics and morality that you're making is false.

No it is not false, just one you disagree with.

It is not necessary to believe in libertarianism.

I dont believe I ever claimed that, I said "libertarians like myself generally believe", I know many many many libertarians that share my position on ethics vs morality. There is not a single topic on the planet that all libertarians agree on, except that we all agree that none of us agree on everything

Honestly, take an intro to ethics course.

I have been reading, studying, pondering, and researching libertarian idea's policies, ethics, etc for nearly 20 years.

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Its seems that is all you have taken, the high school level intro classes and you believe that what is taught in those intro classes can never, has never, and will never be questioned or disagreed with

That a Intro to Ethics class that incorrectly teaches and morality and ethics are the same to fresh out of high school teenagers is the end all be all of the topic.

you are wrong but continue to recommend take a intro class, this just highlights your ignorance

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My definition is the one in the Oxford English Dictionary.

I am not British so why do I care what the Oxford Dictionary says.

The British refer to trunks as boots and spell color colour

You don't know what ethics or morality are.

Pretty sure I clearly defined them for you several times

Yours is used by some Catholic university.

Ok and, I dont know if that is true or not, but really does not change anything even if it is

Many people would argue that drug use is a moral issue. Should we continue to prosecute pot use? What about alcohol? Until just a few years ago I lived in a dry county and plenty of people argued that the ban on selling alcohol was a moral issue. Same sex marriage? Hair styles? Who gets to decide what's moral?

The law should be based on protecting the individual from harm whether it be physical, defrauding, ect. The government can't and shouldn't try to enforce morality because everyone has a difference of opinion on what is moral.

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That's like saying laws are based on words. You can't make laws without words.

While true it doesn't really help create an effective and fair system of governance.

I agree that any law we create or don't create has moral implications but morality and while it should be considered to a degree, it shouldn't be the defining characteristic of our laws. If they are then we start to head into the territory of theocracy and speaking as someone who considers himself highly Christian in his worldview I have no desire to live in any type of theocracy.

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The deffinition I'm using is this one: "of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior"

Murder should be illegal because it directly harms another individual and takes away their choice.

Binge drinking should be legal because it is a choice that only directly harms the person making the choice.

But neither of those things I would consider moral and you never answered me who gets to decide what is and ins't moral?

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I'm not arguing that virtually every possible choices has a component of morality. Only that that shouldn't define what is and is not illegal.

This is the great challenge of moral philosophy.

Exactly. To go back to what you said at the beginning:

All law exists to enforce morality.

If we base our laws on what a politician or what society at large deems moral then we are going to end up with immoral laws. Slavery was legal and plenty of people at the time would have considered it moral but it wasn't. The Indian Removal Act was a law but wasn't moral.

If you hang legality on morality you end up with bad laws and bad morality. I think we should base our laws on protecting people from harm and ensuring freedom of choice. Then we can let philosophers and theologians debate morality and choose for ourselves what is and isn't moral as long as those choices don't infringe on the freedom and safety of others (what should be the law).

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Says who?

You've yet to provide me with what you are using as a definition of morality.

If I said the opposite, that I think laws should be based on harming weaker people so that only the strong survive and flourish would you call that moral?

It seems like your definition or morality is any choice or decision made on some vague and undefind idea of "good".

Should we outlaw all junk food since eating healthy is good? Should we excute anyone with a disease or disability so that we can erradicate all suffering due to disease? Maybe we should kill all the "dumb" kids so that the smartest are allowed to flourish and allowed to advance the " greater good" of mankind.

Don't get snippy with me because you can't define what you mean by moral and good or who get to decide that and why.

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By the deffintion you provided morality is the "distiction between right and wrong good and bad behavior". But if no one can agree on what is good and bad behavior we shouldn't be basing our laws around it. Yes any other criteria we pick will have a moral component because any action we take has a moral component but the moral consideration should not be the primary factor.

I don't think this conversation is going anywhere. It's almost midnight and my phone is about to die. Other than you calling me a dipshit I've enjoyed our little discussion. Have a good night.

And another thing; this whole thread was started from a comment about whether the government should make laws against underage porn of fictional characters.

I think most people would say looking at that kind of porn is immoral but it doesn't harm anyone and since it doesn't harm anyone they should have the freedom to do so.

Yet you say freedom of choice is a moral principal so which is it? Should it be legal because of freedom or illegal because of the content?

In many ways, and to many people, they are inextricably tied together, and that's a massive source of contention. Once you move past the obvious (murder), it gets messy. How do you answer people who think that gays harm children by their mere existence, or deal with the realities of wealth distribution as a cause of harm?

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Agreed on both points. I'm just not sure that the moral argument is the best here, since many cultures have different moral constructs. I think "harm reduction" is more practical both in considering government and in arguing in favor of policy.

u/timsboss It sure must be nice to exist in a universe created by your own mind where the government has people’s best interests in mind, and not revenue as the ultimate driving factor.

Morality and safety is not the same thing. I could be preaching that killing gays is the moral thing to do, still it's the reverse of safety. Treat people ethically, and by that I mean don't harm people physically or mentally, If there is no victim there should be no crime. Morality is so easily twisted and abused, look at the US christian right.

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You can value safety without involving ethics at all, a psychopath might say that the general safety of a society directly benefits him. He would argue that while he doesn't care about anyone else, morality or ethics having a safe society allows for better business and functioning of the society and even improves his own safety. He might support a law against murder just so that he wouldn't be murdered. Self interest is not intrinsically moral.

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No one actually believes in ethical egoism because you run into issues with the usage of evaluative language. Simply put no one uses "it is virtuous to do an action" to mean "it is in my best interest to do this action". For example most would agree that it is a ethically good thing to risk your life to save a child in a burning building but no one would think that it would be in your best interest to do so. Ethical egoism distorts ethical language and is therefore wrong, something being in your best interests is distinct from something being moral and that is why we use comply different language for each. This argument is the equivalent of saying that an object is red and when I point out that it is in fact blue, you say that blue is a kind of red because someone used blue to mean something silly like that once.

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? Egoism is not objective, what is good depends on the viewers situation and views so by definition it isn't objective. Also I have never met an ethical egoist and if I had it wouldn't change the fact that it simply doesn't agree with the usage of moral language. It's like saying that there are flat earthers so the earth must be flat. The overwhelming usage of moral language by normal people disagrees with egoism so what egoism describes is not morality but something that they made up.

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Most moral philosophers are realists(https://philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl) for the reason of the problem of arbitrariness, as far as im aware there's no good answer to it so to asset that self interest is a moral position you must do the following:disprove the argument from arbitrariness, prove egoism to be true, refute the moore no disagreement argument, refute the open question argument and do all that while insisting that people do not have a general moral sense(they do). Have you studied philosophy or just read ayn rand? There are a thousand years of philosophical argument that generally refute subjectivism. Also, if you reject the general usage of ethical language what do you even have to prove ethics exists? The field of ethics is one dedicated to determining the mean of the evaluative language we use, not one dedicated to creating it. If ethics was just created by egoists one day I can very well say that I am not an egoist and refuse to use evalutive language in an egoist sense. If I were to say that government should protect me I could simply deny that it is an ethical evaluation because I do not acknowledge the egoists as an authority on morality. I could simply dismiss egoism(or other moralies that are human made) as a creation I do not like or believe in and then to me nothing would ever be moral.

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It's just your usage of objectivism is not the normal one used by philosopers, also I added this:"Also, if you reject the general usage of ethical language what do you even have to prove ethics exists? The field of ethics is one dedicated to determining the mean of the evaluative language we use, not one dedicated to creating it. If ethics was just created by egoists one day I can very well say that I am not an egoist and refuse to use evalutive language in an egoist sense. If I were to say that government should protect me I could simply deny that it is an ethical evaluation because I do not acknowledge the egoists as an authority on morality. I could simply dismiss egoism(or other moralies that are human made) as a creation I do not like or believe in and then to me nothing would ever be moral. "

But go on im interested prove egoism to be correct and refute the arguments against it, if you do I will admit that the property of " being in my interest" is a moral one. I doubt you can though.

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I know, im not saying that you are, but if you don't prove that egoism is true you can't say that the government and laws being in my best interest is intrinsically an ethical judgment. You're backed yourself into a corner where if you can't prove egoism your original argument is wrong. For self interest to be a moral value egoism must be true.

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For self interest to be moral egoism must be true, if egoism isnt true it isn't moral. That's just how it works, just because some one calls something moral or ethical isn't enough. Something being moral is different from being a part of a ethical theory.

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And if you don't believe in those then you believe that they are an inaccurate description of morality, if they are an inaccurate description of morality then their predictions and evaluations are not moral. If utilitarianism is not true then saying that an action maximizes happness is not intrinsically moral. For a judgment to be moral then the theory it relies on must be true otherwise you just think it's moral. An ethical objectivist would say that what utilitarianism says or judges is not morality because it is wrong, he would say that there is some objective morality an ultitarinism simply isn't it, therefore it's judgments are not moral ones but some other kind.

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No we aren't, if you don't believe in an ethical theory it's predictions aren't even a moral issue. If you are a nihilist you wouldn't think murder is a moral issue, you might think it is an issue for the field of ethics but not a moral issue. A moral issue is an issue about what is moral, for example "is it right to steal my neighbors money" could be a moral issue but only if you think it is moral in nature. By saying something is a moral issue you are talking in the specific "it is an issue about morals" not "it is an issue about morality". It is the difference between something being a problem in physics or a problem for physics.

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it is how you should though, moral issues are about the applications of moral principles to specific situations not issues about morality as a whole, you should use issues for ethics or issues for morality for that.

You're not going to get people to be pragmatic when their feelings tell them to act otherwise.

We could solve a lot of serious problems in society if we just did what worked and was ethical rather than what felt palatable but was clearly suboptimal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcroft_v._Free_Speech_Coalition This case sorta addresses the issue. See the dissenting opinion in particular.

This a question psychologists have been wrestling with, it has some merit, like safe spaces for drug addicts.

That question is useless I think. No one is gonna accept those type of people existing, to many, they should be imprisoned and left to rot or killed.

The world may one day make real gains in the area of mental illness, compassion, empathy and reform vs getting rid of someone. But I doubt it.

A fun hypothetical but only that. This will be made illegal.

I think this is exactly the type of questions that should be asked - the difficult ones with no clear answer. The way things are is not necessarily how things should be, and to figure out whether it is, we need to examine the topic thoroughly.

to many, they should be imprisoned and left to rot or killed

I realize that this is a relatively common sentiment, but that seems straight up cruel to me. A single, troublesome facet of someone's psyche is enough to just reduce the person to permanent trash-status?

probably, depending on where you live.. https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/anime-fan-convicted-over-illegal-7958896

Is it illegal to make a painting of it? Same basic concept.

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Don't know, but it shouldn't be. The problem with child porn is that its manufacture involves hurting children; if it could be produced without doing so, such as through drawing or CGI, that form of it should be legal. There's nothing inherently wrong with fucked up fantasies, be it gore, snuff or even pedophilia, as long as the person with the fetish doesn't actually act on it. And it seems clear that such fetishes can't really be "cured" anyway.

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They're considered fucked up because they're unusual, and because ACTING on them would be wrong, but there's nothing inherently wrong with any fetish, because even the fucked up ones don't hurt anyone unless you act on them, and the only circumstance in which something can be morally wrong is if it directly and inevitably harms others without consent.

Besides, "fucked up" is subjective. To a fundamentalist christian, anything but missionary position sex for the purpose of procreation is "fucked up".

Technically, it's fucked down.

Not saying I agree or disagree but you haven’t backed this up with anything. Just saying “they are bad because... well... because they are bad!” isn’t a strong argument.

OOTL on this one

Long story short, people used a program to seamlessly place celebrity faces on pornstar bodies and it was so realistic that it caused some major issues.

Someone made an algorithm that, when fed 100's of photos of someone, say, a celebrity, it then superimposes their face over the face of a porn actress in an already existing porn video. The few I saw were pretty convincing. Or something like that.

I would be down with a “build your pornstars” feature. Ultimately, they would look like real people, which means you could really get off to some hot fetishes or maybe even people you always wanted to but never got the chance to bang.

Everyone already knows how full the top pages of websites are with "step siblings"

Y'all need Jesus.

Jesus porn? I don't know, I'm not that into guys.

I wonder also if you could build your own President. Theodore Fitzgerald Bushama. An incorrigible romantic who personally fought in the war to bring healthcare to Iraq while hopped up on amphetamines.

Would be wild.

Well anti Child Pornography laws exist to protect children from abuse, so that people who sexually abuse children and force them to make porn trick them can be brought to justice. In my mind if a computer generates porn that looks like a child porn, its gross for sure but I can't logically find anything ethically wrong with it. Although you could argue that maybe it increases pedophillic thought and could lead to an increase in child sexual assault if people brought it to the real world. But unless a study proved that, it would just be conjecture.

There's a solid correlation between convicted rapists and the kind of porn they watch, but not all men who watch that kind of porn are rapists. I think that legal computer-generated child porn would be very popular because the consequences of possessing illegal CP are so high. I doubt it would create a bunch of new pedophiles, but it could motivate someone who was already predisposed to commit sexual assault through normalizing the disorder. Normalizing bad things is how we make them worse.

Possibly, but theres also some evidence to suggest many pedophiles often try to use child porn to halt their urges and not hurt children, while we know consuming and paying for child porn still hurts children it's possible that a legal form of childporn that they can consume, that is made in a way that doesn't hurt real children because it is entirely computer generated, could help to burden the market for real child pornography as well as help some of the less violent pedophiles avoid becoming child rapists etc.

I'm sure they try to use it that way, but in the absence of a study to prove otherwise I very much doubt it works. Getting off on watching real children being abused just seems like a good way to escalate those urges and make someone more tempted to try it themselves. I would have thought that every time they watch it, they're reinforcing their mind/body's association between child abuse and orgasm.

I hate to make this comparison because the two are not at all in the same category, but perhaps it would be informative if there were any studies about the porn habits of gay people who started out closeted or suppressing their sexuality. It would be interesting to know what role, if any, porn played in their experiences.

This debate is already happening with animated cp. age there doesnt really exist, you can say anyone is of any age. Then it gets to the question of how do we decide someone looks like a minor. There has to be at least one person that is 18 and looks (or looked) absurdly young. So saying she looks really young isnt a perfect solution because an 18 year old could look really young (probably, i might be wrong but age is kinda weird like that), so defining it is really hard. I mean this cgi cp is actually the exact same thing as animated cp. it would just probably appeal to a bigger audience.

Question is which effect is bigger: The normalization, assuming that's how that works at all, or it as a method of channeling their lust and thus not getting to a point where they decide to do it in reality.

And what kind of porn is it that rapists watch?

It's the same idea with drugs. Some people think legalising marijuana will lead people to do heavier drugs.

That's not the same. It would be like if watching videos about marijuana got you kinda high so you might want to try the real thing.

I believe exposure to porn was shown to reduce sexual assault.

It's like making artificial ivory.

There’s actually a counter argument, that exposure to porn provides a relief valve.

When this came up when the UN asked Japan to stop soliciting sexualized images of depicted children and Japan said "No, it's art" I had to think about how I felt about it.

My feelings are that I don't care if there is no logical victim in someone stimulating themselves to images of drawn children in a sexual context, my gut says it's wrong and I don't want to communicate even slightly with someone who doesn't agree with me, because it all falls in the grey area of something I believe to be black and white. If that makes me less open-minded, then so be it but I have to draw my line in the sand somewhere.

I think someone could attempt to justify anything, but I'll reject that opinion because that's what makes sense to me.

Out of curiousity, what do you think of people with the disease that prevents their body from growing older (so they always look like a child) having sex? Do you think it's wrong for anyone to want to have sex with them?

You can not like it but you can't legislate this way, otherwise how do you decide whose 'line in the sand' gets used?

Best solution I've heard is that you stop when you infringe on someone else's freedoms.

Ok, so what you're saying is that because you don't like something it should be illegal? That's downright stupid and backwards.

What should be the basis of whether it's illegal is whether the stuff serves as an outlet or normalizes the content, and thus raises or lowers the amount of bad stuff done to the children. I personally think it's disgusting, but if it saves kids (which is a big if), then it should be allowed.

I didn't say anything about it being illegal, but in a position of authority, I likely would make drawings depicting children in sexual situations illegal as I believe it should be.

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I'm pretty sure you're the one who doesn't understand what that word means.

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It would be disgusting from the point of view of social norms. That's a completely separate issue from ethics.

Here's a definition of child pornography currently in US law:

8)“child pornography” means any visual depiction...where...(B) such visual depiction is a digital image, computer image, or computer-generated image that is, or is indistinguishable from, that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct...

Is it an ethical dilemma? Wouldn't it actually be a really good idea to saturate the black market with Neuro-generated CP? All the pedos spend their money on virtually made videos that didn't hurt anyone, and the shitheads that actually hurt kids lose all their income.. it's like drawing. There's not much of anything you could do with a pencil on paper that would be illegal.

Anime be like "I'm actually 400 years old" - a 12yo looking elf

It's four. Four minutes old.

I imagine it'd be similar to lolis. It's not real, so it's not illegal.

I thought that was illegal?

Depends on the place

US supreme Court said that banning virtual child porn is a violation of the 1st amendment. 535 U.S. 234 2002

eh, deep fakes already made porn interesting. this just makes it normal

So basically like that AI Microsoft released a few years ago and started saying a bunch of racist and anti-Semitic shit.

Nope, it's a 1000 years old magic loli

Heh. Yep. Either used for sex or a weapon of blackmail, propaganda or mass misinformation. Nothing ‘good’ can come from this.

It's a 500 years old vampire.

Found the pedophile guys.

Hentai is way ahead of that.

Or worse is this even child porn since all of it is computer generated and no kids were involved in it?

really curious about this. she's technically not 14 so it's not illegal. immoral, unethical, sure.

Weebs have been agonising over this for decades.

Deep fakes are basically this

they already have deepfakes which lets you map an average of pictures of someone onto an existing face.

Really, Karen? Smut smut smut smut smut.

Meanwhile all the weabs come out of the woodwork to tell you about Loli’s, traps, and “it’s just a drawing man!”

it's fucked up, but that makes me think... how can you endanger or exploit a non existent minor? I don't see how a crime would be committed by the mere depiction of a minor.

well in a serious sense, because loli/shota hentai isn’t illegal then the same logic would apply to any computer generated content since anyone being charged for the production of cp could just say it’s “art”

Not really ethical debate since "someone" that isn't real can't have a real age.

If you're not exploiting a human child, it's not a dilemma.

... you are jacking it to a fantasy either way so...

It would probably be grouped in with stuff like hentai, which already has porn depicting young children.

Irl hentai

There’s a Law and Order SVU episode about that exact thing.

It actually wouldn’t matter, that’s why lolicon is legal.

More like 65 year old man with a thicc 24 year old latinas body

Would make the only claim to fame for actresses/actors be that they were real and given that a generated character would do anything, Hollywood in the flesh would have to follow suit or go under....

So yes, porn could get VERY interesting...

Either way she's getting fucked

What's the dilemma though?

Doesn't matter because there is no victim.

This already exist. You can look up Emma Watson porn and find videos of a computer generated Emma Watson face on someone’s body. Almost identical

And the answer would be "why would anyone care, it's a generated image".

Generate your own perfect girl/boyfriend

“You don’t know her. She goes to another school”

Couldn't this software generate infinite images of child porn in the hands of a pedophile with a large database of images? Would those generated images be subject to law the same way loli is illegal in some parts of the world? What would this technology be used for in the first place?

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Troll farm.

oh we already have the background stuff. this stuff right here is foreground.

Would those generated images be subject to law the same way loli is illegal in some parts of the world?

I think they would because the resulting images have characteristics directly taken from real images. so long as you could prove it adequately I guess

Regarding US law at least, I doubt that's legally relevant. Using a reference to make a painting isn't copyright infringement, e.g. You can use other people's art almost wholesale as long as you introduce novel elements. Look at sampling in electronic music for another example.

Having the images in the first place would be illegal though.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcroft_v._Free_Speech_Coalition. This case addresses this issue very closely. See the dissenting opinion in particular.

Surely it would just be NVIDIA generating the images on behalf of the users? Rather than giving people the option to generate porn based on their own content.

Even if nvidia doesn't allow people to do eventually it will come to a point where you could do it on your computer in fact deepfakes have basically allowed user to do something similar to this already.

Theoretically anywhere where lolicon is legal (like in the US), those images would be legal.

now I have a copy of AI faces saved to my iPhone.

Update: it has now cataloged them an albun called People.

It has begun (mortal kombat voice)

Catfishing, porn, government agencies trying to control various narratives...

What is “cat fishing” please? Thank you.

And ID theft, and vote manipulation

I found Karen.

Show 2 fingers so I believe that it's you.

Chooses a preset, render.

Here.

The world is doomed ;)

This isn't good.

I can definately see people worshiping ai celebs with algorithm based "personalities" on social media one day.

Maybe they already are...

I mean, not really a big deal. It's already easy and the additional convenience those generated faces provide is almost vanishingly low compared to, let's say, engineering a profile that maximizes efficiency.

Not really. People can already use other people's pictures.

They have to get those images from somewhere though, and if you suspect youre being catfished you can search google for the image and (apparently) itll usually turn up results. If they can create new faces, that will no longer even be a possibility.

And propaganda bots

These of the faces of the robots that we're going to need a strobe light to see before they kill us

Catfish in hand porn are the least concerning things about this. Imagine a news report of Putin calling for WWIII or someone like Elon Musk saying they’re going to start manufacturing dildos instead of cars or an up and coming politician that has a video out of them snorting cocaine of a small child’s body. Shit like this. Where they swear up and down they didn’t do it but we are all so sure that they did.

The scariest thing is how they're so smiling, and non-depressed. What the fffsck are they so happy about? Don't they know that life sucks and the world is crumbling, being run to ruin by an orange madman??

If you don't ask your date to FaceTime or Snapchat before the date, you deserve to get catfished

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Woah.

Code red! It's having a sophome slump!!!

Calling all Jan Michael Vincents!

https://youtu.be/nLB4dU3Yc6M

Is it important that we know who Jan Michael Vincent is to get this bit?

That... would not shock me. AI has a history of dirty cheats like that, given the opportunity.

Some example?

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Wut

You didn't hear about that? It was like some kind of terminator or something.

It's simple, skynet sent ai units to the past to that dude's mother. I know what you're thinking but it's ok because that dude sends his own ai unit to the past to protect his mother and younger self.

Virgin skynet vs chad I Robot

We love a lazy AI machine.

I read an article a while ago about how neural networks have cheated before. One was using a genetic algorithm to make robots in a virtual physics engine, and the goal was to create something that can move across a flat ground the fastest. The network realized it could just create something really, really tall and when it would fall over it would gain a lot of speed as it was falling and get a high score. It was technically achieving the goal within the constraints of the scoring system, but obviously they wanted it to creating some kind of walking object with moving parts.

However, going on the web and downloading pictures is not something a neural network would do, they're not that smart. These are 100% unique pictures.

It wasn't cheating, it was doing what is was programmed to do within the parameters given, its just that the developers clearly didn't set theirs up correctly.

The “Control problem” by Nick Bostrom’s “Superintelligence”

This is how we gonna screw ourselves up, by trying to resolve a problem and giving incomplete parameters to AI resulting in an accidental extinction

Sets AI to increase mushroom production. Turns all humans to fertiliser and achieves goal.

Reminds me how in Fallout 4 the Mechanist programmed his robot to help the people around Boston. But it calculated that even when it did most to help, humans chance of survival would be still very low, so it decided to kill all incapable humans, leaving only those who can defend themselves. Which meant that the robot would need to kill 90% of people in the area.

The “Control problem” by Nick Bostrom’s “Superintelligence”

This is how we gonna screw ourselves up, by trying to resolve a problem and giving incomplete parameters to AI resulting in an accidental extinction

Humans can't give complete parameters

The AI doesn't have the capability of going on the web and downloading pictures, but it could easily just regurgitate the training pictures it was given with very minor modifications.

You haven't seen the training set, so there's no basis for your statement that these are 100% unique pictures.

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/a6hu2e/these_are_all_faces_made_by_nividias_neuronetwork/ebvpucx/

You can also watch them being generated here about 1 minute in.

https://youtu.be/G06dEcZ-QTg

I heard about an experiment identical to this, but the AI utilized a glitch that happens when the creation spawned underground.

I tried searching, but couldn't find an article. Could you possibly find one for me please? I love advancement of AI, especially when it's "cheating".

I couldn't find the exact article I read but this one is very similar. The one I read had a few more examples and sources for everything but this is still a good read.

Like this?

It was at the end of the article you linked.

Thanks! Interesting article

There was that time where a tetris AI just paused the game indefinitely so it would never lose.

Ah true, I remember.

I read about one that was supposed to learn how to land pretend flights in a flight simulator. It figured out that if it smashed them into the ground hard enough it would cause a buffer overflow error which took it directly to the successful landing screen (or something like that)

Edit: here are some https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/robots/a19445627/the-hilarious-and-terrifying-ways-algorithms-have-outsmarted-their-creators/

Edit edit: if you are interested check out http://aiweirdness.com it's super fun and interesting

This is beautiful and terrifying.

That twitter experiment, and the bot became racist?

Elaborate please :o

I guess the ai wasn’t really cheating, just that it didn’t do what was expected. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(bot)

A bot in Dota 2 went against its code to win. Learned peoples movements and started beating the best players in the world's

Okay, software engineer here with experience with ML/AI

An AI would not do this. All AI that exists today is good in very narrow areas. To put it very simply, we give a computer a complex formula on how to generate faces, but leave out all the numbers from the formula. The program is designed to figure out the numbers by trial and error by seeing how close it can get to some examples we give it.

It doesn't know about the internet or have any idea that you can get images from it or how to access it or what Google is. It doesn't even have the concept of what an image is. It's just a long list of numbers to it.

Computers work by running instructions we give them. They don't have the ability to do things on their own. All the "clever cheats" are really the computer following instructions, just the people giving the instructions not realizing the instructions they give will yield the results they want

Nice try, skynet! Your username gives you away, though!

I am sure that is exactly what a cheating quantum computer would say!

It does know about the internet

You typo might cause confusion. You meant to write: It doesn't know about the internet.

like the time the model had to stay still while using the minimum amount of legs possible, and the AI just >!flipped it belly up!<

Do,you have a link to this? I'm confused by your comment and think some extra context would help.

Guessing that it was a model trying to stay balanced. Flipping onto it's back would mean it could keep it's legs dead straight and not worry about falling over

Yea the AI in NHL 19 cheats all the time

As the old adage goes, any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a carefully rigged demi.

“I choose a lazy AI to do a hard job. Because a lazy AI will find an easy way to do it.”

AI's more human that I thought.

One of us. One of us.

Well there's reverse image search on Google of you want to test your theory.

The real cheat is that these sorts of things are usually trained by feeding in a bunch of real faces. Machine learning can quite easily just memorize the training set unless your careful and for these sorts of subjective applications its harder to notice happening.

Still this sort of thing is quite neat especially with some other approaches I've seen where you can cleanly transition between faces.

Should we really be teaching computers to feed on a bunch of real faces?

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I understood some of those words.

That's creepily realistic

"pfft fuck this. I'm gonna go watch AI porn instead"

That's some woke Dale Gribble shit right there.

oh shoot you’re right. and at least somebody knows how to spell novideo

I don't know if the ability to come to that conclusion or the ability to make such realistic faces is scarier...

Detroit: Become Human

You’re almost right. If you check the videos of these images being made you’d see this is basically a more sophisticated face-swap program. It takes two input faces and blends them, using facial features and hair style/color, into a new face.

I looked into it because seeing “Nvidia” automatically made me assume “3D rendering” and incorrectly assumed it built photo-realistic faces from nothing, including the most convincing hair renders known to man.

I know this is a joke but I’m sure they are all real people in the sense that someone out there looks EXACTLY like this.

You just blew my mind!

This was honestly my first thought tbh, in part because I refuse to believe an AI is advanced enough to make these hyper realistic faces while at the same time more than half the world still doesn't have clean drinking water.

That's called "overflow" and it happens when your training set is very small.

Imagine looking at this and seeing your own face.

'Wait, I'm not real?'

There's one in there that looks eerily like me... bit freaky.

Edit: cool, I like talking to people here about this! To narrow it down, I most closely match one of the smallest pictures. You know how faces stand out to you way more if you know them already? Well this tiny face stood out immediately.

Me too. I'm tempted to switch out my profile pic and see if anyone notices.

Sorry, you both don't exist, hate to break it to you

Good to know. Now I can murder my enemies with impunity.

... On an unrelated note, you look really nice today.

Looks like he passed the Turing test

I don't think "okay with murdering humans" was part of the Turing test

not the turd test though

Reminds me of a hentai doujin with the same premise, except sex

Your enemies also don't exist.

And you can stop going to work

No, you can't do anything. You don't exist.

The perfect crime.

Always look on the bright side.

You'd probably have more success murdering them with a knife.

just more proof of the whole "we live in a simulation" theory

"We live in a society"

Bottom

Text

Hey, that's my job!

to be a bottom?
to each their own I suppose

So then what are we doing now, a simulation within the simulation? Or is this simulation just part of the simulation?

I mean, how else could I have created this account before 2018 actually existed?

“Just like the simulations.”

Dude, why are you talking to yourself? There's no one there.

There is me a powerful computer generated A.I.

Who are you talking to?

puts on sunglasses and crosses arms

we are merely constructs of the multiverses neural network

Mr Nvidia, I don’t feel so good...

You weren’t suppose to tell them. Wait, I wasn’t suppose to warn you. Crap, don’t read this.

Shut down the project, this run has reached the end point in record time

Sorry dude but...

On the bright, side Reddit is a collection of simulated people. No one here is real.

Uhoh! i look like everyone..

I mean, everybody on reddit is a bit except you, so you should already know they didn't exist.

Your accounts actually never existed.

Your Reddit gold isn't real

HA! Jokes on you, I’m not that funny!

Give yourself more credit! You're hilarious. When was the last time you looked in the mirror?

Got rid of em

How do you watch porn then?

I'd get rid of myself too if I looked like that.

But how can mirrors be real if hes not real?

Reddit gold doesn't exist

I knew it. Had a guy gold stalk me once

If you're reading this, you've been in a coma for almost 20 years because of a car accident. We're trying a new technique. We don't know where this message will end up in your dream, but we hope we're getting through. Please wake up. We miss you.

Wow. The BEST way you could communicate to me through my comma was to sneak it into a Reddit post? Well.. if this message actually makes it back out to the real world some how, I don't think I want to see the real world. Pull my plug

Pull my plug

That'll be $3.50, plz.

Add it to my hospital bill

Oh, you meant life support, didn't you? NVM, not my area of expertise...

Jeezus's balls there's no way the outside real world medical system works like this whackadoo circus of a fucking healthcare system my comma adled brain has vomited up in my make believe world

Hey man, we've all got our kinks...

Butt plug? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 

I knew the past couple of years were too bizarre to be true.

I'm too high for this shit

I had mine set as Ed Snowden for about a year and nobody questioned it

Edit: I do look like his twin

Is that you, Ed?

Fuck

how's embassy life treating ya? sick of the same old ~~take-out~~ delivery food?

I am sick to death of cabbage borscht, but I could live in a gingerbread house

Same and much like you I'd rather not point out which specific one.

This ruins my day a little.

Yeah me too a little.

I've had this happen once before. Some news article here about a HS stage collapsing. Scrolling through the article and BAM, one of the students was identical to me. Super freaky.

I even sent it to my brothers and they agreed...

honestly, I think this is a really useful thing. You could replace all your profile images and use that one going forward. When the time is needed to match your face from video surveillance with some facial recognition, ideally your online presence wont pop up.

Sounds like an episode of Black Mirror

Since it’s reddit, I assume the right most row, 8th one down.

Not an moronic middle/high school boy, thank god

I mean I'm guessing your name is Lindsay or Lindsey, and since Reddit skews young, I'm gonna guess either column second row, fourth row right column, left seven, left eleven, left fifteen, either sixteen, left seventeen, right 21, or right 22. How'd I do?

which one is it for science

The lady...

wow it’s uncanny

Holy shit it does look like you!

Last row to the right third from bottom?

Oof close in terms of location, I thought for a heart stopping second you knew me not that I actually post anything exciting here.

Haha. Was going for the low hanging fruit there. Unless you're in Florida we don't know each other. Maybe

Likely not but gave me a laugh for sure

If they find out you're bottom right RIP your inbox.

Hence why I'll give few hints

Well let's see, you'd know that it was farthest to the right, so I'm gonna roll with that (cause you'd know if it was the left column I'm assuming, and you said you thought he knew you). You also couldn't be too near the top, because no one would refer to them as X from bottom, they'd say however many down.

Going with the guesses I had before:

~~either column second row~~, ~~fourth row right column~~, ~~left seven~~, ~~left eleven~~, ~~left fifteen~~, ~~either~~ [right] sixteen, ~~left seventeen~~, right 21, or right 22.

You also said elsewhere "so close" when someone guessed the five-year-old white girl. Now, this could either mean location close, in which case my guess is R16, or close as in you are a white girl but not five, which doesn't narrow it down since R16, R21, and R22 are all white girls.

Now with the hint I'm responding to -- if it were all the way bottom right, you wouldn't think they guessed correctly since they said some from the bottom, so I'll tentatively rule that out. R16 is seven from the bottom, whereas R21 is only two. In the hint above, you specified "close in terms of location", whereas in the five-year-old white girl hint, you only said "so close", which leads me to believe it's close not in a location sense. Now, it is possible since you commented this one before that one that you realized which one exactly it is and didn't have the same reaction as this time, but that seems less likely than you were just making a joke with that other one and location didn't come into play. Therefore, my final guess (unless any more hints will be given) is furthest right column, 21st row (2nd from the bottom). If I'm correct, you're pretty lol

Sorry, I don't mean to be a creep or anything, just that puzzles like this are fun. If you like I can delete this comment so others can't see it, but I'm curious to know if I was correct.

So close! R16

Oh goddamnit! I really was so close lol. Well I was wrong, but if you look like that then you are still hella pretty lol

Can I guess? Is it Bald Vladimir Putin? Wide-eyed Tim Allen? Christoph Waltz? Older Robin Williams? Jewish accountant with red yarmulke? Jim from The Office?

Female Jim

You’re surprised Simon Cowell

Found Zuckerberg

Not a very flattering picture of you. You should have smiled more.

I never was good at taking pictures.

Far right, 3rd from bottom?

Most popular guess tonight.

If I saw my face on the wall in front of me I wouldn't recognize it

Wow, Nividia has an impressive Reddit bot too.

Well now I'm not sure I'm not a bot so...

I swear one of them looks a lot like elementary school me.

Can you ever really know yourself though?

One looks like an older me kind of. I thought it was me at first and I was like WHAT

Lemme guess : third picture starting from bottom right row

Careful this is seeming similar to that manga about the human shaped holes in the mountain!

Are you a five-year old white girl, by chance?

Ah... so close!

Yeah I'm pretty sure I've dated the chick on the top of the second column. Eerie.

I started looking through them, scared that I would find my face.

Reddit Guess Who

That hole looks just like me. It's my hole

3rd column, 7th row, is my step brother 100%.. I'd send this to him if we were still on speaking terms. He uses Reddit though so hopefully he sees it anyway. It's a bit strange seeing him as a non-existent person.

You just have one of those faces.

I saw it all on T.V, it made me kinda restless...it was my shape.

https://imgur.com/gallery/ZNSaq

One of them could be my mother in law with odd lighting.

You're totally the baby near the bottom, aren't you.

RIGHT? my partner jokes that everyone is a blend of 50 simple templates and I happen to be an unblended boiler plate. I look like everyone. But I look most like someone in the 4th row. Shockingly, disturbingly like that not-someone. I think we just got a compelling argument that we're all simulated.

This shits the modern amigara fault. Do not climb into your monitor

The on in pink on the bottom?

One of the little pics looks just like my best friend... who died in 2014

One of them looks like my little sister. Very freaky indeed.

OP is far right, third from bottom

It’s the one with the white background on the far right, isn’t it?

How the hell did you do that

Are you by any chance the baby?

You're the 3rd from the bottom, all the way to the right?

Far right, third from the bottom?

Impressive.

Are you the baby ?!???

pics or lying

Seventh down on the right

Let me guess... You look like the one third from the bottom of the far right column?

Top right 2nd down? Top right 4th down?

None of them are ugly enough man sorry

I want to see now :(

Which tiny face are you if you don't mind me asking?

Thing is though....some say if we saw our doppelgänger we wouldn’t realize it was us. Because we are used to looking at ourselves as a reflection that if we saw ourselves as not mirrored we could right by a clone and not realize it.

Just a theory I heard and kinda makes sense

Well they aren't exactly 100% computer generated. They're just a mix of faces so if you take DNA into account there is really only a finite number of possible facial combinations that biology can spit out and as we're reaching 8+ billion we will see more people who look like twins when they were born from completely separate mothers on different parts of the planet.

You're definitely the guy with the red hat. I'm sure of it whether you admit it or not. I can just tell. Wait! You're creepy high school photo guy on the far right. This time I'm certain.

Stay firm in your beliefs.

Remember that time you told me you look just like the guy in the red hat, but if I told anyone you'd deny it?

Can we do one of those super cool reddit things, where we get this to the front page and see who most matches these faces? Someone has to be close to one of these pics, right?

I'm here from the front page. I don't see any that look like you though. Turn the light on. I can't see you well through the window.

Wanna borrow my night vision? I’m around back, in the bushes.

Shit, that's you up there? You're dangerously close to the entrance of my tunnel down here.

Bitch, what you doing In my tunnel! Get out!

I'm from the front page and I look exactly like the guy on the bottom left. proof

E: there's a guy in my calc class that can vouch for me.

Why is your proof pic the same as the dude in OP's pic but flipped horizontally? You could have at least removed the little white spec in the hair.

/r/atetheonion

You mean /u/thefirecrest ?

That him. He cheats off me in class. And he thinks we don't know it's him farting but we all know.

Super cool.

Reddit things.

Choose one.

I choose staying inside

The only people willing to expose there true identity on reddit are happy people with nothing to hide and cam girls.

So... Just cam girls then

I know it's not the best but in their research paper they have a picture showing the most closely related pictures. https://imgur.com/jLHVGxa

The top row is generated images and the bottom pictures are real celebrates from the training data that look the most similar.

The pictures are here on page 18, at a much higher resolution.

That first one looks so much like Selena Gomez.

This guy looks like Jeff Goldblum less famous brother.

I sure their are some doppelgängers in there.

The guy in the bottom left looks identical to the guy who sits next to me in Calc. Have I been imagining him this whole time? Now that I think of it, I’ve never seen him interact with anyone else...

It's probably me, then

Is it this guy?

https://reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/a6hu2e/these_are_all_faces_made_by_nividias_neuronetwork/ebvlh6j

Is that you Tyler Durden?

Plot twist: Nvidia AI leaks photos of Cylon agents embedded in the population.

Future episode of Black Mirror

Doesn’t look like anything to me

Coming soon to r/nosleep.

Immediately thought of The Enigma of Amigara Fault

The only thing that ever makes me think of the Enigma of Amigara Fault are holes, specifically the kind made for me.

/r/writingprompts

Well, that wouldn't happen, because the faces aren't real.

just because they aren't real doesn't mean it can't generate a face that is practically identical to yours by chance

I’ve just zoomed in, basically looking for my face. What does that say about me? Existential crisis 101

I’m not real, I think I never was ....

I get a rush every time she lets me get a touch

Technically none of these are real, but they're still based on a shit load of photos from real people.

So if you find someone that looks almost like you, they probable scraped some photo of you from somewhere :D

It doesn’t look like anything to me.

is anything real?

And this is how they tell me?!

Pretty sure at that point you disintegrate and some alien teenager turns off his alien Netflix.

Jokes on them I figured that out a long time ago.

+3 points to we're all in a simulation theory.

[SIMULATION TERMINATED]

YOU're not real, man!

Do I smell a writing prompt!?

Everything goes black and you see words infront of you

Simulation has ended

Coming soon to a theater near you.

Bro the one in the middle there is my cousin Jacquelyn I don't know what the fuck op is on about

I'm too ugly to be in the code

I’m gonna commit sooooooo many crimes

or better yet, imagine looking at this and recognizing every single face on there.

Far right, nine down. Looks exactly like Jeanna Fischer (excluding the hair).

I popped some edibles a bit ago and now I’m seriously wondering if I’m real.

Uncle Charlie?!

No, you're a Cylon. A frakin skinjob

Or if you saw your wife's face? Or you saw a woman and she was the most beautiful girl you've ever seen?

It will make GTA a lot different...

I had to check to be sure

Maaann that would be great. Then i could kill myself without a doubt.

That would make for a great two sentence horror story

and then you would dissapear

“There was always a reason no one recognized me” I thought to myself. There had to have been. I was smart, clever... gifted. Yet, for my whole life, I was essentially a ghost. Then I saw myself in an advert called “faces of AI”

Edit: started writing then got a migraine

Dont you put that shit in my head

Computer code,dna code....same thing

r/strangerthanfiction

You mean OP totally missed an opportunity to fuck with one specific Redditor/friend.

“I don’t feel so good, Mr. Stark...”

Doesn't look like anything to me

The scariest thing is how they're so smiling, and non-depressed. What the fffsck are they so happy about? Don't they know that life sucks and the world is crumbling, being run to ruin by an orange madman??

oh thank you for that Fucking nightmare

Think everyone, including me, did a full blown zoom-in check just to make sure

tfw the top comment gets 55% of the upvotes on the post

r/writingprompts

This could be a writing prompt.

Add long as you're black you don't have to worry.

None of them are ugly enough

WAKE UP01010100101THIS010101001010010101IS01010101011010100 NOT 0101010101010101REAL010101010

No one on reddit is real but you.

Hopefully you passed your Voight Kampf test.

"I looked at this set of photos. It looks like nothing to me"

In all likelyhood there are a lot of people who look just like this. Or did and have died in history somewhen.

It wouldn't disprove that I'm real. But it would make it quite likely.

r/twosentencehorror

And that’s how you find out your a self aware government Android and most of your memories are just script that was implanted in your “brain”

The plot of Detroit: Become Human thickens.

Nothing is real, and NOTHING TO GET HUNG ABOUT STRAWBERRY FIELD FOREVER

holy shit. i gotta look at the comments before i comment. i just made the same fucking comment as you. now i feel like my mind isnt real

https://imgur.com/dWIS1Ni.jpg

My very first reflex was to see if anyone of them looked like me... I as relieved to see that no

This is potentially possible with overtraining. Also Im guessing nvidia are smart enough to avoid that lol

Which pill did you take?

R/WritingPrompts

"This is my face! It was made for me!"

"...... like tears in the rain."

Exactly what I thought. Super creepy.

We live in a SoIcMiUeLtAyTION

Yoooo chill I'm way to high for that hahaha

r/WritingPrompts

The girl at the top of the second column looks like Indigenous Australian artist Jessica Mauboy .

r/writingprompts

Saw this and thought the same thing!

Did you just assume my existence?!

r/WritingPrompts

Now I’m scared to fail the Turing Test.

r/writingprompts

r/writingprompts?

We live in a simulation

we're living in a simulation

I would be very creeped out.

One of them looks like a slightly older version of me. Like in 10 years I’ll probably look just like it. Kinda freaky

Black Mirror wants to know your position

r/WritingPrompts material right here

r/writingprompts

r/writingprompts

That's how TD posters feel when they become self-aware and realize they are what they've been calling others for so long, NPCs.

What is “real”? How do you define “real”? If you’re talking about what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then “real” is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.

Makes sense, there’s my girlfriend

Can we get some scientists on this? I'm sure some of you sneaky fellows are reading this thread.

Stage 1 is to create program where you can input preferences [race, age, masculinity-femininity, etc] and GAN would generate partners based on these preference.

Stage 2 is to demonstrate real world applications. Examples could be virtual girlfriend, to stock pictures that can be used in advertising.

Stage 3 is where you sell out to ~~Google or Facebook~~ Totally unnamed megacorp inc. so that they can use these algorithms to create quite literally inhumanely attractive partners based on all the data they have accumulated from us in order to manipulate our behavior.

(Stage 3 is also the profit part)

Are we talking virtual or 3D printed?

Aahh.. this is why i love Reddit. I love these comments

Wtf, that bitch told me she was single

She goes to a different school.

It's fine she just goes to a different school and is afraid of cameras so no pictures

Is it the second biggest one second from the bottom that looks like it could be a female prime minister?

Manti Teo is that you?

Hah, my girlfriend will never be one of these images because she's hand-drawn and two-tone shaded!

Waitfuck

Don't worry she just goes to another school

I don't remember this episode of black mirror

yesterday i watched a movie called Upgrade, it felt like a 90 minute BM episode

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Your comment made me see the movie, it was good.

Hell yeah it was! For a lowish-budget movie with a discount Tom Hardy it had great action, good characters, and a really unnerving premise.

Watch the show Quarry if you like “discount Tom Hardy” lol

On HBO, canceled after 1 season, but incredibly good. Only couple years old.

TIL the main actor in upgrade is not Tom Hardy

The same guy played in Spiderman: Homecoming and I thought for sure it was Tom Hardy in a very minor role. I looked it up afterwards as I thought it was weird that he didn't have more screentime and I see it's not actually Tom Hardy.

Damn that was fast

and yours made me see the movie. I agree it was good

It was the movie I wish Venom had been.

That's odd. I haven't seen it but the main actor looks kinda like Tom Hardy.

Venom was such a disappointment

The one with the STEVE implant?

Excellent movie!

Fantastic movie

Really great movie! Kinda cool that a lot (I think) of the footage was filmed in my home city.

Wow so glad i read your comment, very good movie! Thanks!

👍🏼

Know more movies like that one?

Here you are

  • Oblivion (2013)
  • Moon (2009)
  • A.I. (2001)
  • Source Code (2011)
  • Gattaca (1997)
  • Edge of Tomorrow (2014)
  • Her (2013)
  • Ex Machina (2014)

Upgrayedd...two 'd's for a double-dose of pimping.

You're looking for Upgrayedd

Aren't we all?

Dude, I watched this movie like an hour ago and I was thinking the same thing the whole time.

That’s exactly how I describe that movie! It’s like a really good Black Mirror episode but movie length.

Hated in the Nation was a 90 minute long Black Mirror episode.

Favourite movie of the year for me.

“Ah Shit! Upgrade!”

Upgrayedd? With two D’s for that extra dose of his pimp love?

I loved that movie

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I wouldn't call it stupid. Those were reasonably interesting ideas to explore, it's the execution that some people will find lacking. It's a low budget, genre-film level of filmmaking. (budget was reportedly 3-5 million) Nothing wrong with loving that type of film, many people do. Nothing wrong with acknowledging it's shortcomings either. That studio makes a lot of interesting lower budget stuff, like "Get Out".

Blumhouse is well-known enough and they make so many movies that they kinda have their own unique genre of film. Some are definitely better than others though lol

It is. It's just too long for an episode.

That’s because this is the episode we’re living in.

This is so sad. Alexa, play Anyone Who Knows What Love Is.

Remember the news about black mirror doing an interactive episode? Well guess what - you're in it!

I’m pretty sure we’re all already in some sort of advanced Nvidia processor

Shittiest comment goes to you

Yeah I know a 90 minute bm episode probably means you should see a doctor.

this is actually kind of scary

Seriously. They all look really real to me. It's creepy that they don't look creepy.

Yeah it's like they're so far past the uncanny valley that it almost makes it worse

They've achieved Canny Mountain.

Cannny Mountain, Chaarlieeeee!

Oh God my kidney!

What year is this???

"Oh, when you're down and looking for some cheering up..."

It's 2005. What is wrong with you?

HOLY SHIT I CAN WARN EVERYONE

Of what? Nothing bad's really happened in the last 13 years

/S

It's a Liopleurodon, Charlie. A magical Liopleurodon. It's gonna guide our way to Canny Mountain.

REH-EH-EH-EH-EH

REH-EH-EH-EH-EH-EH-EH

Quit jumpin on me

You fill me with sweet sugary goodness!

Almost heaven, Santa Clara

Canny Mountain, there's nothing to put here

I wonder if they still have both kidneys.

I'm always missing jokes on Reddit.

Charlie the Unicorn

https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=%2Fm%2F063_frm&hl=en-US&kgs=a6dd2210f02d923946112b0d21a24a7e&source=sh/x/ke/kgs&q=Charlie%20the%20Unicorn

https://youtu.be/CsGYh8AacgY

The big rock canny mountain

I love this comment

I canny see, canny see!

No, you’re not looking

/r/ScottishPeopleTwitter

The Big Rock Canny Mountain

Reminds me of this fantastic song by Ha Ha Tonka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwDbvIUZrV8

I'm headed for a land that's far away
Besides the crystal fountains
So come with me, we'll go and see
The Big Rock Canny Mountains

Big rock cannnnny mountain

In addition to being flawless, right down to the inclusion of flaws, they all have quirky expressions that imply an underlying personality. You feel like you know them a little just by looking at them.

I fucking hate it. Especially that woman in the red. She is someone's mom. She has to be...

I imagine that realistic movement is next.

Then porn would get really interesting.

the waifus just got upgraded.

The ununcanny valley.

That's the whole thing, a simulated something being so close to real looking, but just not quite right. A simulation that traverses that valley, and is indistinguishable from other real things, is as real as those other things. So, in my opinion, those faces are real faces. They're not people yet. Yet.

I think it's because the faces are asymmetrical.

The weirdly realistic backgrounds help a lot

The uncanny valley is a lot more obvious when the faces are moving.

I remember when I was much younger, we had some ideas of what computers could accomplish back then, but it was still early days relatively speaking. Not punchcard early days, no, but DOS prompt early days, PC early days...

We literally never imagined this was possible really. I mean, in super far-fetched sci-fi fantasy, sure, but in our own lifetimes? Extremely unlikely. It was just fiction, like flying cars and space aliens and transporters and all that jazz.

Had you asked if a computer could do this in 30 years, we would say no, and wouldn't understand why you'd want them to. I'm still not quite sure why that is, living in the present, but here it is all the same.

This is a surprise, a very unwelcome one. The pace is accelerating far past what we thought it would be like. Even if we don't have full AI and cyborgs yet, I can no longer say with any certainty that it won't happen in my lifetime. Actually, I would have to say it will.

I am extremely, extremely uneasy at that thought. I do not trust our species with this technology. I trust our creations with it less.

To say the least, we are not designed well to handle this coming reality.

Things are gonna get real weird.

Things are already weird and I feel like I'm far from home

I feel like I'm far from home

Oof. Got the feels from that comment

Hey look it's my life

/r/Retconned/

"Shit's about to get real weird, like the kind of weird I can't even have other people around for."

Things are weird. Look around.

!thesaurizethis (I don’t actually know how to summon the bot, or if that’s a thing here.)

!ThesaurizeThis

“If they have begun to do this as one people speaking the same language, then nothing they devise will be beyond them. Come, let Us go down and confuse their language, so that they will not understand one another’s speech.”

...

Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house. Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Sorry, but how are these verses relevant? I'm trying to connect it but I'm just not seeing it.

That's interesting. I remember considering these possibilities when I was younger and into console gaming. It wasn't hard to imagine that we would be capable of photo-realism at some point, the graphical capabilities of each console generation increased exponentially. Obviously, I never really considered the implications of that, I just thought it would be cool to play realistic games.

Yeah, but I always figured photorealism would be something like what we have in Crysis. Very realistic looking but still clearly not real. Facsimile.

I did not imagine it would be "you literally cannot tell who is real and who isn't no matter how hard you try."

While "true" AI (AI that is truly intelligent/conscious) may never come, many forms of AI are already here.

Boston Dynamics are doing their best to take care of the robots part.

Guys like Elon Musk are trying to turn us in to cyborgs, in order to protect us from the dangers of AI (can't beat em, join em, basically).

I would say that you'll see AI and robots become a true force in our society within the next decade. We will also begin our transition towards being cyborgs.

A friend of mine has a degenerative eye condition. He recently found out that he can get replacement lenses in his eye... with zoom capabilities. Right now. It's super expensive, and only with minor zoom, but still.

The future is here, and I agree with you, I don't think we're prepared... but it's possibly going to be the most interesting time to ever be alive.

I remember when I was much younger, we had some ideas of what AI could accomplish back then, but it was still early days relatively speaking. Not Donkey Kong AI early days, GAN early days...

We literally never imagined true AI would come in our lifetimes. Maybe many generations down the line, but our lifetimes? Extremely unlikely. It was just fiction...

Had you asked if a computer could do true AI in 30 years, we would say no.

It's gotten to the point that I don't buy new tech anymore because I know next year's will be at least twice as good with all the kinks worked out. Honestly at this point I should just wait for the singularity because tech will be literally infinitely better at that point

I don't think this singularity is going to be nearly as positive as you think it is, whatever its nature. It's going to be more like nuclear weapons but intellectual, such that practically nobody can actually understand them. Good luck keeping that in a silo.

When I was in preparatory school (equivalent of the second half of highschool in the US, I think), back in the mid nineties, in Mexico, during our first computer workshop class our teacher told us to not even bother asking her to show us what Windows looked like, because we would never have to use it in our lifetime unless we went into some extremely niche career. We mainly learned to move and copy files in DOS.

My uncle ran a software company through the 90s and 2000s. For him, Windows was totally irrelevant to his software, and he barely looked into it despite being a well paid professional. I mean, he used it in his PCs and all, but even for him it was a "who cares" thing. His industrial clients needed barebones software, and everything was DOS based well past the XP days.

Foresight can be hard.

Don't worry, there are a lot of really smart people who all had this same realization. OpenAI, and similar projects, aim to keep the progress open to all. The real danger in tech development is state-sponsored stuff, and as long as there are pockets of well intentioned tech geniuses, I think that the world is going to avoid some sudden "Russia has developed AI that can generate and post politically divisive content online to manipulate democracies" doomsday scenario.

Hell, IBM is rolling out cloud based quantum computing resources for research facilities that can't afford the machinery. It's a cool time to be alive.

I wholly support that open process, but I'm guessing it has <1% of the resources that the closed AI processes have.

At any rate, I think you're missing my point. Engineering true AI is engineering something that will rapidly eclipse humanity in ability. It doesn't matter who controls it after a certain point, because it will end up controlling them.

Think about caging a human with a 200 IQ and surrounding it with partially retarded prison guards. Imagine that human then could continually increase in intelligence while the guards couldn't. Do you suppose that guy might end up running the prison in fairly short order? And what if in order to do so he basically has to kill everyone inside, because guess what the guards' reaction is going to be to a truly alien intelligence trying to take over... not peaceful, that's for sure.

It's a cool time to be alive because we're in that sweet spot where we're able to live in a world with all the technological advancement of the information era but before it all turns into an utterly apocalyptic dystopian outcome that's basically guaranteed by our psychology and technological progress.

I didn't really follow the analogy. Technology is cool. Cool people are also working on technology just as hard as bad people. Either way, I'm doing what I can to ensure the good guys come out on top, good guys meaning those who are taking appropriate theoretical risks and AI safety research into account... so I'm at peace with whatever the eventual outcome is.

When I say look into OpenAI, I mean literally look into it. Read some of the papers, which are actively working to solve the problem you just described.

I will, but I do not consider the problems solvable. Or they're solvable in the way that climate change is solvable if only we all suddenly abandon the entire history of human competition and myopia. How's that going? At least we have charts and scientific data to back up claims that climate change will destroy the world. What do we have for AI? I mean, it's just conjecture, who's going to listen? And it needs to be everyone that listens. All it takes is one to go the unethical route, and we have a new god in our midst, probably not a nice one at that.

Sorry, I'm just an extreme pessimist on this stuff. Something about monkeys and grenades.

I am even more pessimistic than you: it won't even take an evil AI programmer. Just a mistake in reasoning of the safety of activating some AI.

It'll be like: I've taken all the safety precautions, this AI will not destroy humanity. Turn it on... Shit, I was mistaken, now we're all dead.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI-control_problem

Read that. It's about how we don't yet know how to make an AI that won't destroy humanity.

It's not that some of us are bad guys and some are good guys. Even the best of the good guys doesn't know how to keep AI from destroying humanity.

Another thing to thing about in the analogy is that the AI didn't have to be smarter than all humans. Nor does it have to be smarter than you. It just has to know how to get you to do what it wants. Think about how a computer virus can infect your computer and make it part of a botnet even though that virus is not as complex as all the rest of the software you have. AI could be not too complex but still good enough to hack your mind's desires.

We should think that there is a reasonable chance that AI well attack humanity.

Thanks, that's a good link. Two friends recently left our development team to work at AI startups... safety at the ANI level has become a much more prevalent conversation topic lately, that's for sure.

We're just getting started honey

I remember back in the late 1980s looking at color computer images that were only inches in size and took weeks of programming and computational power to create; their quality was, at best, equivalent to a bad landscape photos from a disposable camera. I remember thinking how amazing they were and how in a hundred years we might have video of equal quality. It's both amazing and frightening how fast things have changed.

Oh we have cyborgs all right, have you seen some of the high tech prosthetics that are on people? Not just appendages either, shits awesome

And somehow it'll still be another hundred years before we get 120fps in 4k+

Jazz is not fictional.

I have had the idea of a computer system for years called dream theatre. Custom made tv shows that are created by a powerful a.i tailored made for an individual.

Its a learning computer that knows what you like or don't. So anything you watch can go on and on for ever and ever with actors that are long dead or simple don't exist.

I hope it happens.

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I'm sure nVIDIA knows why they spent all that money on it. I'm not certain it's just for the sake of computer games, and I doubt military training is a key purpose either.

I suppose it's probably more like "why learn how to map rocks". Because there's oil under them.

It is often said that video games are a larger industry than movies and music even when combined. Don't discount the gaming industry.

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And at least 77 other people, thanks for the contribution though.

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You don't seem to understand how upvoting works. It's not a literal sampling of the entire human race.

I guess you missed that when you were focusing on developing GAN facial reconstruction networks in the 1980s with the 99.999999% of humanity that understand what any of this was back then... or now.

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You're missing the point that your elite cadre of ubernerds was the 0.00001% of the world at that time. Hell here in 2018 there's few people who can even really understand what "procedural creation of assets" means in any real terms, nevermind 1988.

I'm glad you were so smart and prescient, must feel great, but you're not the norm.

And regardless, there's a difference between thinking something possible and actually expecting it to be realized in your lifetime.

I hope they use it to make catgirls.

Maybe it’s time we design ourselves

/r/whatcouldgowrong

oh piss off theres still people in africa eating dirt for breakfast

We really aren’t ready. Look at the way social media manipulates the things that pop up in your timeline. How long before it starts to influence the masses in their behaviors, thoughts, and actions? Fuck man.

Luddite

Well if the stuff ends up killing all of us, who's the one that looks stupid now?

Arguably if something ends up killing everyone, no one looks stupid, because the concept of stupid refers to something appearing stupid to humans.

I'm pretty sure a true AI could contemplate stupidity and lay judgment on us posthumously, if it requires an intelligence to do so.

I'm pretty sure there a disagreements about that exact thing you are pretty sure about.

Luddites were on the right side of history.

you sound just like that crackpot Elon Musk

https://i.imgur.com/GB317aM.png

It's really misleading to say they're all "made" by the NN since you need to literally feed a NN thousands of real faces to "create" face. It's more like the NN is very good a photoshopping faces if you happen to have a shitload of photos at your disposal. They also don't show you the 50 million badly warped faces created in addition to these faces that just happen to look normal. If you want to build a NN yourself you can try it out; nvidia offers cuda accelerated libraries free for developers.

This hype based science is really off putting. I bet we'll see another AI winter with funding dried up in 10 years once everyone fails to deliver on these exaggerated claims.

Take a look at the area around top left guy's lips, you can tell that his stubble is stretched a bit weirdly, like a shitty texture in a video game. Other than that im having a hard time finding flaws.

edit: bottom left guy's forehead also has some weirdness going on with the way the hairs bend.

Fourth column from the left, fifth down looks off to me. I think it has an easier time making faces looking straight at you than faces looking away.

One of them sorta has a Mrs. Doubtfire thing going on.

Second column, fifth person? You can even see a very obvious line on their cheek down to their neck, where the skin tones don't mesh.

That's the one

Try looking right at the eyes, it’s hard to see them st all in post pictures due to low quality/size but the ones you can see look really dull

Not even that, I know I’ve seen a lot of these faces IRL or in shows. They’re all faces you would expect to see. That’s what makes me go “wait what”

Bottom left looks like a mugshot.

I suspect that would be different if they were animated.

The fat guy looks like he’s in fat makeup.

That's because they're just combinations of existing faces. I wouldn't call these procedurally generated faces "creations".

Because, for the most part, our brains have very complex sections that are entirely focused on giving us the ability to distinguish people apart and also to be able to tell when something is 'off'.

This image shows that, finally, AI has outmaneuvered the complexity of our brain, and can generate false faces we can no longer tell aren't real people.

It’s freaking me the fuck out how normal they look. How shit! Getting serious anxiety here!

Some of the clothes look weird

That's true, but given how little of the picture we're seeing, I would probably dismiss that as being that something is cut off by the camera.

Its like there are better and worse versions of the same faces in the picture. Its weirdly disturbing

I wonder what it would look like animated. I’m guessing it would be seriously creepy uncanny valley in motion.

Maybe not, and even if it is it won’t be for long. At which point, actors will be voice over actors only I guess. Half of modern blockbuster movies are heavy on CGI already, with entire major characters being CGI, and even non cgi characters being rendered digitally for huge chunks of their screen time.

It seems very likely that all movies will soon be 100% cgi... with voice actors. Who will then be replaced when voices are also done digitally. Wonder what other uses there are beyond entertainment....

Let's note here that these are still images. Video is way harder to trick the human eye with.

There's no dead eyes...wtf...how are you going to be able to tell what's real?

Here's some things I found, top lefts ear is very unnatural and misshapen and bottom lefts bangs curve at 90° angles

Something about the eyes throws me off

Way past uncanny valley

look at the thin strands of hair. Look at the clothes around their faces. Look at the backgrounds that don't make sense. Its possible to spot them, it just takes a minute...

I'm a dentist and some of these people's teeth are throwing up red flags to me, ruining the otherwise perfect real-person's-face illusion. Looks like dentists will be the only people who will be able to stop the robot takeover.

What kind of flags?

Yeah I love technology, but I said "I don't like it" about as quickly as I did when watching Boston Dynamics' Big Dog walking and looking like 2 people moving furniture.

For me it was this one

That's hilarious but I audibly said "OH FUCK THAT" at 0:32 when it did the neck thing. Again at 0:45. It's really messing with my head.

Yeah, for some reason all I could think of was the scene in the exorcist when her head turns 180 degrees...

I was 100% ok with it until it did the neck thing.

unnzzziiipppp.........

It's a brave new world, complete with robot sass.

I really hate that my kid might have to worry about one of those things (but even more advanced) chasing him down becasue he was doing some stupid kid shit and the town has these to "help" patrol the area. How long until one of those is essentially an unkillable k-9 with a taser?

There's a Black Mirror episode about robot murder dogs. Welcome to the future.

And they looked quite a bit like Boston Dynamics bots too.

Them being equipped with less-than-lethal is pretty optimistic

Oh that is already happening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln8FHLN3M3o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iR2x1D-lFQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWTAmTDTmDw

That was fuckin' awesome!

That was super amusing and very scary, all at once. That thing could out dance most while slaughtering everything.

I was torn between humor and horror. It was a little uncanny valley in the way it moved? So smooth.

Yeah, I think if I was a bit drunk I would swear to god it's CGI

I want one of those...

Really easy to picture that thing going awry.

Oddly enough, that's not the original. This is better, the original used uptown funk instead.

Huh, I'll have to look for that one. Does it match up as well as this one?

It's posted on Boston Dynamic's page. And yea, the sync is the exact same, I think the songs have the same timing.

It dances waaaay better than I do 😢

The earlier Boston Dynamics stuff was both disconcerting and cool, but the last I saw with the Atlas robot parkouring was...well, maybe we shouldn't go that far.

They have a robot called 'Handle' while is a biped on wheels; it's kind of fun to watch and looks like it's on rollerblades.

Mind you, that was in 2008 they have evolved a lot from that point on.

Yep that’s a hell no from me

Eh, better and more entertainment media for less money, same for art. There really aren't any particular use cases for malicious exploitation.

There really aren't any particular use cases for malicious exploitation.

That's just a lack of imagination talking.

Theres alot that could be done with this level of realism. How can we trust any thing we see on the news? Wars could be started by a clever graphic designer.

No, there really isn't. Hoaxes work because people don't bother with arduous research. Fakes, edits... all that is such a non-issue, it's ridiculous.

Just sign videos you need to have confirmed. Cryptography allows us to do all kinds of interesting stuff related to trust, and video plus pictures aren't any different. AI related research has much more pressing issues and making a big deal out of a "simple" GAN like that really doesn't do it too much justice.

Start with not trusting the news, just like we can't trust the internet!

So.... Wtf am I supposed to trust then?!

Sounds like something a synth would say.

Personally I'm more worried of people who are worried about these kinds of things. They are the type of people who are going to end up making algorithms and processing power government regulated.

Kind of? I'm worried.

Can anyone elaborate here? I assume the backround and the heads themselves are from actual photos.

Then the faces themselves are switched out. Much like a Snapchat face swap. But the faces that are swapped are generated by the neural network?

Or is the entire photo, pixel by pixel, generated?

The latter, I work with GANs as my day job.

Edit: pixel by pixel is not really the way to think about GANs either, you sample the entire generated image all at once. There are networks that generate images pixel by pixel, just not this particular network.

Is there a real and good way of getting a job in company like yours while having mostly experience in SE / ML and being passionate about the topic?

Develop some stuff with GANs in your free time, apply to every company that has a posting, I'd imagine.

If that was so easy and companies wasn't looking for N years of experience rather than your mindset (especially in Bay Area). Well I guess I will have to lie in my resume.

Totally possibly, if you really know the math and have an open source track record. We honestly have a really hard time getting good applicants who know both SE and ML. A lot of people pretend they know more than they do to get a position, I'm getting better at spotting it. Having X library on github that you can point to removes that doubt. The field is also so new that everyone else is in the same boat as you, so I think there is still an opportunity to transition of you are passionate.

Most of the companies you work for won't let you post their code on github. And if you work during the day and want to spend also some time with your family/kids then you simply can't afford playing with open source projects just to show them in your resume. I am writing that just because my resume got rejected several times due to the "lack of experience" in that field. It seems that for some reason companies don't want to hire & teach people, instead they want to both have a cookie and eat it at the same time. And the only way to get out of this "lack-of-experience lack-of-possibility-to-gain-experience" circle is to lie during the interview.

The entire photos are generated pixel by pixel, at least that's how its presented in their scientific paper

However they're "seeded" from real photos.

https://youtu.be/kSLJriaOumA?t=29

Much less impressive than it sounds.

Edit: basically a more polished function like "ethnicity swap" in FaceApp which later got pulled.

Holy fuck, that video is incredibly impressive. That’s not an less cool than it doing it from “scratch”. Whoa.

This is somehow more terrifying than the post. We could be in the Matrix.

If you look at the odds, we very most likely are. If we are, we are on the cusp of creating a nested Matrix within the original Matrix.

There's no reason to assume we're in the original one.

Point taken. We live in an anthropocentric world and we think anthropocentric thoughts. Bias is inherent in the system.

Much less impressive than it sounds.

Yeah no. This is impressive.

That video is bloody insane! Why is it unlisted though :(

Nvidia probably just wants it on their site somewhere, but doesn't need people stumbling on it

However they're "seeded" from real photos.

No they’re not. They’re demonstrating latent-space arithmetic in that demo. The “seed” photos in the demo are not real photos either. The GAN takes in as input a 100 dimensional random vector, not a full photo, and in that demo they’re demonstrating how you can do arithmetic in that latent space and feed in the resulting vector and still get intuitive results.

Wasn't at least a part of the GAN have to have been trained with real pictures of people though? How else could it have developed the latent space representation?

Yes it definitely is trained on real images. Overfitting and “memorizing” the training data is a real concern, but the researchers show that the new images aren’t particularly similar to anything in the training set. Also, the fact that you can do latent space arithmetic to do things like change the pose or interpolate smoothly between two images shows that the GAN does actually generalize.

I honestly have a hard time wrapping my head around how good this GAN is too, but it doesn’t seem like it’s cheating or just combining images. It’s pretty remarkable.

Agreed, it's amazing, I just didn't want people to think that it had literally never seen human faces before.

nnnnoo, you're misunderstanding the video. Ethnicity swap is one of the things they can do by feeding in specific source images to the network and controlling the tightest variance group. They can vary everything with the fully trained network and a wide input sample: https://youtu.be/kSLJriaOumA?t=203

Indian khaleesi looks ok

What a shame, that actually looks really cool.

SJWs cost us a cool feature :|

Pixel by pixel, completely fabricated based on millions and millions of real images of humans. The scary part is that we can now create images (and videos) that are impossible to tell apart from reality. We already live in a world where many images are more real to us than real things (you haven't seen most of the things you've seen online in real life)... the lines between what is real and what's not are eroding more and more and the ability of bad actors to bend reality and falsely influence people is stronger than ever.

The article says not a single one of those faces are real. 100% of the photo is AI generated. It's just that good.

No they're not. That's 100% Nvidia marketing bullshit. They are all combination of existing faces. None of those pictures are "real faces" but they're all combinations of real faces.

This is GAN, they are using existing faces to learn the patterns of how faces looks like. Then the neural net generates a completely new face based on what it learned.

This is not exactly photoshopping different faces.

The video literally shows that it combines pre-existing pictures. You’re an idiot.

It isn't that simple, don't be an arse.

The distinction is that while these are technically made from randomness, the generator is using learned data to put it together. They need inputs for the generator to know what to do. Figure 3 in the paper explains whats really going on a lot better.

While obviously that is how GANs work, to people that don't really know what that is, saying that it is generating faces by itself isn't completely true. It is getting that info from the data set and then nudging the data closer and closer to the desired effect.

From what I could tell in the video, they take features that could be on a face and then say "show me a person" and it randomly creates a face based on patterns it's observed.

Basically the neural network is fed a large dataset (thousands/millions of photos), and then it's able to create a face from scratch, from the trained model. It uses all the data that it learnt from, and comes up with something that actually makes sense; hence, even faces that do not exist at all.

That hurts my brain a little, but cool. Thanks for the explanation.

You have 5 photos of faces, selfies. What do these have in common? Well you can see their faces, eyes, nose, mouth, ears, eyebrows, hair, skin color, beard etc. Al recognises a pattern in these 5 pictures (the things I've mentioned among a million other small details).

And now the computer knows that everyone has a forehead, below it eyebrows and eyes. In between eyes and mouth there is always a nose. That is a pattern. Feed the computer enough data to create a shit ton of patterns and theoretically now the computer has guidelines on how to create a human looking face.

I don't know exactly what type of technology they used but this is a dumbed down eli5, or at least how I think it would work

It's entirely generated

I think you need to watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSLJriaOumA

Yep, pixel by pixel. Models that can generate accurate things have become incredibly stronger lately. I tried making one of these on pictures of politicians and another one on anime photos. Results weren’t nearly as good as this. Then again, I was using a MacBook pro’s CPU.

Agreed, we will never be able to trust if porn is real anymore.

Its likely just a program that stiches various faces together faces using an agorithm someone made. Machine learning is not scary, because it is so primitive still; we can still barely identify an image not to mention real intelligence.

A computer can draw a face. So can a person. What's the big deal?

These images of computer generated people are indistinguishable from an image of a real human, that’s what’s unnerving.

Images are the least of our worries over this dynamic

Black Mirror hit this on their very first episode.

They're just composites from images uploaded to the internet layered onto each other. It's neat that algorithms are able to do this now, but it certainly isn't scary.

Yeah... we are probably only a few years away from 100% realistic cgi, at which point we won't be able to trust video any more as evidence that something actually happened. Imagine video evidence not being a thing any more It's like we invented ourselves out of an invention.

Yup. Society is already being conditioned to not believe what we see. There will be no objective truth soon enough

Plus this is just more proof that we really could already be in a simulation

You should check out Hypernormalisation if you are interested in that kind of thing.

The thing is that stuff made from GANs is still random. It's not like I can ever conceptually throw a script and have it give me back a movie.

We're getting there. I'm critical of a lot of the comments here but the obvious next step is multiframe continuity

Sure, but again, even future versions of this specific tech (GANs) are still interested giving random output, so it's still going to be relatively limited in use.

We’ve had 100% realistic cgi for years, just not real time

What do you mean real time? I haven't seen any of this realistic cgi. Link?

I haven't seen 100% realistic cgi, but real time just means being able to animate the models as it's happening. Rendering current cgi takes a while

I mean rendered in real time. Game/ film developers use programs such as zbrush to create models with millions of polygons, however it’s not real 3D, only simulated 3D (2.5D) to increase efficiency http://www.zbrushcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=503901

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=503908

Not 100%. Close enough to fool normal viewing, sure, but not close enough to hold up to all possible inspection.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I look at this, and while I think the tech's amazing and exciting, it also fills me with absolute dread.

Heard of deepfakes?

Any good source for them? For research..

Last I checked it's actually been scoured from the Internet pretty well. Voat still has the subverses up, deepfakes and deepfake, but no activity. I'm sure you can find a few videos around online, but it's nothing like the explosion of porn that was available when deepfakes first happened.

Yeah imagine a government using this to imitate the face of someone they don’t like doing something heinous like mass murder, etc. This is extremely troubling.

Worse, imagine 10 years from now when this technology is in every PC and anyone can create this.

Yeah I don't understand why this is a thing.

Does anyone know if a trained expert eye could tell if a portrait is computer generated or not?

only a computer could tell

Beyond scary. This is legitimately the first time I've seen technology where I've thought there's no legitimate possible use for this and only extremely bad possibilities.

Yep. We could eventually be Skyping of Facetime a face that isn't real. Speaking to a voice that isn't real. Just AI

We may never know what or who we are speaking with if it isn't face to face.

If we ever do make Human/Neural networks I can easily imagine not knowing if you are speaking to another human, or an AI.

Ok. Stop the ride. I want off.

Super scary... Look at the hair in the forehead of the last guy, it's all glitchy but in such a subtile manner... gives me shiver

Its scary how remarkably unique every human face is, considering our world population. No one in the world can exactly identify any real "person" from that image, and never will

I was thinking that too. This actually freaks me out.

It's all about the eyes. Look at them. Those eyes aren't real.

I felt the same way but look a little closer at many of the pictures and you start to see some irregularities.

Some of the foreheads are abnormally big and some faces’ cheeks are stretched too far out.

The one in the upper left and the woman in the upper middle are amazingly realistic, but still, they don’t seem to be in the majority. They seem to just be the best of the best.

Of course, technology will get better and we will get better pictures than these in due time...

It's very bizarre and gives me a weird feeling

Yeah but it's just people's facial features randomly rearranged and colour graded. The only be information is the new combination of already existing features

Is it though? Faces in general aren't that different. If they took a real image, slightly alter it they could make the same claims. Replace the eyes and nose...whole different person entirely. I'd love to see a video on the process to generate these images that is from a technical perspective.

Holy shit i was thinking the exact same

These fakes faces now are more famous than your own face

Yeah the future going to be creepy. I feel like people could easily be framed with “footage” of them committing any crime someone could imagine. At least the video games will be dope

This is in all ways very scary....

We are in so much trouble as a species.

The correct answer. We need to be very careful with technology over the next decade as a society.

This is beyond scary to me.

It's the matrix in the making. VR so real that your brain cannot discern the difference.

Fully, this creeps me out.

r/mildlyfrightening

Why? I think it's very cool.

I don't think the prospect of video evidence suddenly being made obsolete and throwing our criminal justice system into turmoil is remotely cool.

Video evidence suddenly being made obsolete won't happen. Don't worry.

I think though these are still 2D images based on some set of real images and then remixed with the AI neural net of the actual pixels of real world data that it learns from. I still think it would be quite difficult for the AI to generate a generate a full 3D image easily viewable from all angles, e.g a model face moving around in a photo potrait shoot scenario with different lighting .

if you look at the clothes or the background then you can te they aren't real

They mostly look friendly, but also quite bland. It also looks like everyone has European ancestors, it's a bit off when it comes to certain ethnic types we know and recognise.

Guess which ethnic group has most source photographs for this system to study...

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have you never thought of how that might be exactly why they're smiling?

Always there’s that guy who feels the need to bring up Trump.

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*Neural Network.

*Feces

Edit Silver
Edit edit Silver x2

“what are feces?”

“baby mice”

r/unexpecteddonniedarko

Oh, please tell me, Elizabeth, how exactly does one suck a fuck?

VOTE DUKAKIS!

Damn I was hoping that was real

Be the change you want to see!

r/subsyoufellfor

Was so fucking excited for that one too

Chut up churlina.

Goddamnit. People like you make me LOL and then it makes people question what I’m laughing at, and of course I say nothing

/r/BoneAppleTea

Holy shit! Didn't notice this 😮

Thank you lol. I was pretty confused.

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A really loud one. With throaty breathing.

I first read it as Nivia (plus didn't know Nivea was correct) and was super confused

Nivia lip balm

Nvidia’s stock price in the last 3 months has been decimated. Nividia’s stock price has been relatively unscathed.

Reread your comment, please.

Its a joke

Fuck, Poe's law strikes again

it even says it in the pic

My brain didn’t even process the mistake🤣

Thanks I was wondering why Nivea made so much effort to promote their skin care products with artificial faces...

Feliz nvidia

NIVIDIA NUERO NETWORK LEARNS AI, BEATING MACHINE LEARNING IN THE RACE FOR ROBOTS TO ENSLAVE ALL HUMANS

/s

r/peoplefuckingdying

https://futurism.com/incredibly-realistic-faces-generated-neural-network

Oh god the attempts at creating cats are freakin' hilarious!

Are these not Cats!?

Oh my god I'm gonna have nightmares now thanks for making them larger I hate it

No one’s linking the scariest one in there!! It’s the small black and white image with giant eyes. Someone not on mobile, please help.

/r/cursedimages

Run

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It walks into your room. Through door, or through the window. Or through the wall.

before now I never knew the deepest fear hidden within my soul was spidercats.

honestly, it look more like an alien chipmunk but what my subconscious immediately jumped to was telling.

That's what cats really look like. They just use illusion magic to charm us into seeing them differently.

John Carpenters The Thing called. He wants his nightmares back.

3rd one down has a penis in it?

That 2nd picture is totally a Pokemon.

THANKS! I HATE IT!

Fifth one lookin like Bib Fortuna

I keep slowly scrolling through and snort laughing by the time I get to that one.

That third one looks like a transporter accident

The cat in a basket or something who has tentacles over his head...

The left tentacle looks like a penis.

What kind of cat pictures has this program been looking at.

Shit I’d take some of these as a fucked up album cover

c҉̼͕̰̥á̪̻̝͇̿tͯͮ̃͛͘

Lost it at the one on the cat bed.

That last one is more like an ogre...

Nightmare fuel right there

There's a literal 2012 cat meme using impact font in there, this has a lot to say about the state of the internet

That one has a very strangely formed cat in it tho. There’re a few without mouths and one looks like a mutated arm like tentacle with a face in the middle of its oversized forearm bit which seems more like an issue with the ai IMO.

Yeah its very malformed, but its the attempt that counts. That A.I., in a way, set out to make its own dead meme

They'll start with the memes, but then it'll be the politicians.

3 to the left, 4 down from the top right corner

http://imgur.com/3MyAPZu

Makes me wonder how it would do forming full bodied humans

The gibberish caption makes it eery as heck though.

What if it actually said something meaningful and there wasn't any Nvidia bamboozle!

s n tcihos uhu th reili ynd swnerye

iroes wheft's wheft

nsn,S ncinnih lfne hb

IRoes woeF'S WheFT h

Your attempt at spelling "eerie" is.... eerie.

I ran it through a different neural network to increase its resolution.

You can just do that?

The future is now old man

Yes and on your Android phone itself, download the tensor zoom app from Google in play store. It allows infinite zoom in any image

/r/surrealmemes

I will savour this weird glimpse of memes from the future

God that is freaky. THE AI WANTS TO MAKE MEMES

This is the real worry

It’s coming for our karma. This is where we draw the line.

Does anyone notice the super creepy face in the photos of the cats that looks absolutely nothing like a cat and instead a deformed creepy ass human?

oh boy did I... haha yikes

I think it was originally a guy with a cat on his shoulders.

Theres also one that appears to be wearing bread

I'll have you know that cats wearing bread was all the rage this year in Milan.

Its a popular meme in general

I for one, embrace the future of AI generated lolcats.

Neural networks are too close to understanding us

Machine learning engineer here: these algorithms don't just "make up" images like cats, what they do is that they put an image of a cat into an neural network, which then tries to create an alternate version of the same image. The more "alternate" you get, the more "new" the end result is. Thus when this article says it generates "new" images, what it's really doing is more like finding real-looking hybrids between images it's already seen. That works great for human faces, but not so much for meme fonts.

Yeah i was sortof aware that it worked like that, but you can argue that humans do the same thing, we can't come up with faces totally from scratch either Cool that you're a machine learning engineer though! Wish i had some worthwhile questions for you. I'm thinking of picking up the class 'machine learning for physicists' at my uni.

Oh I've only been a mle for a few month now, not an expert or anything ;) just happen to be working on GAN right now. Trying to generate realistic game maps by doing the same thing to satelite images. You should definately pick up that class if you're interested, you'll see that it's actually not that complicated, and a lot of it is just guessing and luck, combined with monstrous amounts of GPU processing :p

Oh thats cool! GAN is the image replicator thingy right? As far as i know it's a 2d thing, so how do you construct 3d worlds from it? Also, are you getting paid to do it or is it just a hobby? Because if it's a professional thing i can imagine you not being able to tell everything

Just a hobby :) 2D or 3D or even 4D doesn't really make much difference to be honest, it's all just matrix multiplications in the end, or "multidimensional array" as I learned it as an engineer. I'm not actually building a game though, just random hobbying for fun!

Thats cool, is there any place i can see your results? Out of curiousity ofcourse, I'm not planning to make any video games using it

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Humans have remarkable "is this a person" sensors which probably informed the AI. The "wrongness" of the uncanny valley probably isn't quite so incisive for non-humans. The way humans are captured in photographs is definitely impacted by this, but it probably isn't the same for cats. You can see that some features are conserved, even in the most eldritch attempts. The eyes in the cat pictures are pretty clear, and interestingly, are frequently heterochromatic.

I just love that the ai is inherently informed by the way we perceive the world. It makes really clear how our perception is imperfect.

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Cat can has mouth?

FTFY

There's 2 of those

It was a dark and unoriginal era for memes

I’m not getting hilarious, I’m getting a range from “mildly upsetting” to “instills a deep sensation of terror”

The tube-cats are particularly unsettling. It's like the "camera" caught them halfway through morphing into some kind of demon.

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Man, I knew they gave me a defective one. Mine just sleeps, farts, and/or chews on electrical cords when I'm not watching.

Maybe Nvidia’s devices can see something we can’t...

For the cats they’re doing whole bodies, with the people they’re just doing faces

Now I want to see what eldritch horrors it would create if told to make a whole human body

Be the horror you want to see in the world

This is my motto.

What if we are indeed what they came up with? We might have been glorious angels of fire and light.

This would make for a weird writing prompt. They made us in their image, but really really ineptly.

Oh god the attempts at creating cats are freakin' ~~hilarious~~ nightmares!

https://i.imgur.com/4lkhYrc.jpg

Ah yes the deleted cat scene from annihilation

"Killlllll Meeeee!!"

The cats look like clones gone wrong

It's practically GAN art when it doesn't work. I love it

This one is kinda nightmare fuel though: https://imgur.com/a/sTZCQer

Terrifying, you mean.

I want Nvidia to put cats and humans in the same generation algorithm. See what creatures it comes up with.

I wonder why the AI is more successful at creating people faces than cats. Maybe cats are more complex and superior to us?

wtf happened with the one in the middle?

Edit: It just keeps getting weirder the more cat faces I zoom in on.

A5 made me crack up. The mangled memes registered a snort. Some, though, just made me sad.

I bet if you tweaked either the process or the sampling of cat pics for cat headshots you'd get something far more comparable to the human faces one.

Likewise going for shots that don't look like humans posing for a camera would probably fall apart.

Kajiit has wears if you habe coin

IT LOOKS LIKE GRANDMA THE FUCKIN THING

One of them just straight up an otter

It's like that scene from Alien Resurrection. Where the clones get more and more gradually grotesque until ..."kill...me"...

A couple of them are super unsettling.

Yep. 5th row 4th pic down.

Imagine the failed attempts of human faces.

I like how there's so many cat memes out there from the lolcats, that some of the picture had white text.

It's official. We can only trust cats in the future.

I'm not seeing the hilarity, they look pretty real to me?

hilarious is a stretch

I'm sorry but did you just saw meow?

The cheezburger memes ahahaha

HELLOSH YEAS I'M AM CORT

EDDIT: CORT LOVE WITHS GLIDED GIFTING, WILL STEAL STILL STEEL MILL FROM SEEN SEEM MEAN SEAN'S SEAM YESTERDAY NOW BEYE

(THANKS BUT ALSO THANKS)

Hello yes SCP I'd like to report a sighting

Laughed so hard, so suddenly that I farted at work. Christ.

I want to browse all their resulting cat pictures! I love how weird some of them are

I wish the cat images were higher resolution. I want to see them in detail. Some of them look deformed, and some are just a little off in some way. I was disappointed that I couldn't enlarge the images.

From the paper: CATS continues to be a difficult dataset due to the high intrinsic variation in poses, zoom levels, and backgrounds. See? Even computer scientists are having problems understanding cats. Fact!

That's because cats don't pose.

I think the same problem would arise with humans if they were to create entire human bodies instead of just faces from the neck up.

I'm sure the people would just as weird if they were all generated from candid photos and action shots.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly! Some reminded me of this guy

embiggen* is the correct grammar

Some here are glad they can’t lol.

You can actually generate animal images using custom settings with a similar neural network at:

https://colab.research.google.com/github/tensorflow/hub/blob/master/examples/colab/biggan_generation_with_tf_hub.ipynb#scrollTo=HuCO9tv3IKT2

The "num_samples" setting is the number of images to generate, "truncation" is how much variation to allow, and "noise_seed" is the rng seed, so changing it will give you a different set of images.

For some horrifyingly surreal images, I suggest category "903) wig" and a high truncation setting.

Some of those cats are pure nightmare fuel.

Straight up nightmare fuel 😓

neuro-network

The fact that this is incredible performance for a GAN when just a couple years ago they were horrible aside, I gotta rag on you for saying "neuro-network" instead of "neural network." ;P

arxiv link: https://arxiv.org/abs/1812.04948

Uncatty Valley

If this technology exists then certainly they can do the opposite. You could use whatever algorithm is in place here to define a type of face, and use that for facial recognition software. Anyone in the world could be found with enough cameras and enough processing power.

If you find this interesting, you should definitely also check out this Two Minute Papers video which extrapolates on this idea into general objects (beyond just faces): https://youtu.be/ZKQp28OqwNQ

Basically, this neural network let's you give it a description (e.g. "a yellow bird with an orange beak") and it will generate a image that's a faithful representation of that description.

There's a video in the article showing the Nvidia AI also extrapolates on this idea into general objects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSLJriaOumA

Holy shit some of the cats are gross.

yep, it's real.

scary.

particularly this video.

I watched this and now my brain has a whole new cast of extras to put in my dreams

Why does my RES think this is an image?

Kind of humbling that a human face so realistic it can fool other humans is EZ street but cats are still a ways off.

That noise adjustment reminds me of being on acid.

OT but god have they an awful font... Who decided that this is pleasing to read?

First picture: wow that’s a good cat too! Next picture: OMG what did they do to that cat!

But with the number of people on the planet, surely there are people out there that could be dopplegangers for some of these.

Well then, I'm officially creeped out now, especially with the cat pictures. shudders And now I probably won't be able to sleep for an hour or two. The AI managed to make cats into pure nightmares.

So... anyone want to scoot this tech over to Bethesda “There’s only 12 faces” Softworks?

Wait until they find out that there's more than 4 voices.

Yeah, but they all still say the exact same 4 lines of dialogue, right? Wouldn't want to go crazy with changes or anything.

You never should have come here!

Why

Won’t

You

DIE!?

Have you heard of the high elves?

Saw a mudcrab the other day, dreadful creatures.

I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than you! YEEEE HAAAH

You'll make a fine rug, cat!

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ITS THE HERO OF KAVATCH

You have my ear, citizen

it's a fine day with you around

A guard might get nervous, a man approaches with his weapon drawn.

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Hear me, o people of Cyrodiil! Look well upon the Chapel of Dibella. Look at the faces of the dead. This is your future. Evil has returned, and the Nine need a champion! Is there no one who would stand for the Nine? Now Mara's children cry out from beyond the grave for vengeance! How many more must die at Umaril's hand?

I AM CYRODIIL COME, he said, Old Reman, born from the earth that IS Al-Esh, and yet he would scorn this country now! Repent! I say again, REPENT! The blood of Dibella's slaughtered acolytes cries out for vengeance. Vengeance! Who will take up this holy crusade? Love and Mercy! Do you still think me mad? Who shall next fall to Umaril's bloody revenge?

The Eight And One require a champion, a Divine Crusader reborn. Pelinal Whitestrake once struck down the enemies of man and god. Who will now reclaim his Relics and fight again for the true faith? There are loremasters among you, heads so heavy with learning that you cannot raise your eyes to the heavens to see the truth there written! Cut eight-wise he was, Pelinal the Blamer, champion of Men, and though dispersed he left us a warning! Heed it!

Umaril is returned, as was foretold by the head of Pelinal to the Bull of Kyne in those days of old Cyrodiil. Who will walk the Pilgrim's Way, as did the questing knights of old? The blood tide rises! Will no one take up this holy crusade? Will no one walk the ancient Pilgrim's Way? Oh unhappy Tamriel! Where is your Divine Crusader, in these latter days of petty strife and lesser men?

Umaril -- yes, your children know that name if you do not. The Dread Castellan of fearful legend. Did you think him a myth? Or dead? Have you not heard the Abadal-a? Spoke Peninal: "Beware, Morihaus, beware! With the foresight of death I know now that my foe yet lives, bitter knowledge to take to my grave..." "Better that I had died believing myself the victor. Although cast beyond the doors of night, he will return.""Be vigilant! I can no longer shield the host of Men from Umaril's retribution." Thus spake Pelinal in the hour of his death.

The Unfeathered has come during the Breaking of Gates! His golden-wickedness will hold fast against all arms except those of his ancient foe, the Whitestrake! The gate, once open, cares not who passeth through. Our ancient enemy has returned, from the deeps of time, to exact his revenge upon the gods. The gods, the Eight Attendants of Saint Pelinal when he smote down Umaril the Unfeathered...

Are there no ears to hear the warnings? Are there no eyes to witness the Wheel's breaking? The Eight and One favor only the righteous! And too few of you remain! The Thief has found the lock that he cannot break! The Warrior, the foe that cannot fall! The Wizard, an incantation that takes not to his tongue! Truly this is the Age of the Serpent and the Void that follows! The Guardians have fallen and no one remains to watch their charges, and all the heavens are now banquet for the Princes of Misrule! And Talos said to the Arctus, "Let us join as one to fortify this throne, this land, these people, each one glorious under heaven!" Would you not do the same, children of Cyrodiil? No, you would not! This is plain! You looked away when the fires flickered, and now act lost that they are gone! Only death remains for Tamriel! Death and oblivion!

"That all the Interplay is one flea of assertion on a wolf of naught." It is by these heresies that you fall from grace! Shame on you, people of Cyrodiil, and more shame for the children that you give freely to the mouth of Destruction!

The Al-Esh is near! Mother of the Empire! She weeps for fallen Cyrod and all her children that call it home for truly she is the mother to us all! Citizens, the Queen of Stars asks you: where is her issue? Where are the men who can walk in her steps? In whose blood has the dragon taken purchase? Alessia! Reman! Talos! They cry for blood akin to theirs to rekindle the dragonpact! Citizens, take to your knives! Are there no ears to hear the warnings? Are there no eyes to witness the Wheel's breaking?

You pore over your dusty tomes of lore. You study ancient genealogies and bloodlines. Look you to blood for truth? There is truth in blood, but it is not the truth that you seek! The truth is written in the blood of the innocent, there in the Chapel of Love! Can you not read the ancient runes? "As oiobala Umarile, Ehlnada racuvar!" A curse and a threat to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear! Are there are any among you who still understand the ancient tongue? "By the eternal power of Umaril, the mortal gods shall be cast down."

Who will match the deeds of Sir Amiel and his companions when they smote the Wyrm of Elenglynn to recover the Cuirass of the Crusader?

Think on this -- what happened here is only the beginning.

Happy cake day :)

Man I can hear this sentence, the YEEEE HAAAH mainly

I'm watching you, outlander...

you n'wah!

What's a milkdrinker like you doing out here?

You can’t just say the n word dude

have you heard of the high elves?

Please tell me there's more of this sort of thing.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2lVY3o_QmM17jW562d2FMxyd0UATRoPH

Also: https://youtu.be/p7LHIiSC9h0

CURVED!! SWORDS!!

Never should have come here

You N'waaaaahhh!

Stop! You violated the law.

You honestly have no idea how nostalgic and cheerful this quote made me.

After you hit em' they screech out a "BLAAARGHLRARLH"

BY THE GODS, THERE’S A PSYCHOPATH ON THE LOOSE!

Hey, I know you

Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll

You shouldn’t be here, get moving

Still pretty crazy that the only way you can become the town guard is by being a former adventurer who took an arrow to the knee.

It's a trap. They promise easy treasure to adventurers, and when they least expect it, WHAM! ^^>!spanishinquisition!< to the knee, now you can't escape, good luck with your new job.

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Nope. Actually a reference to the fact that oblivion had leg armour and Skyrim didn't, or possibly just a simple dialogue line with no connections.

The whole marriage thing was a total guess by fans because of the idea that it was a Norse saying for getting married, and that's why you propose on one knee, but that's actually untrue as well.

EDIT: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/took-arrow-knee-marriage/

can i talk to you about patrolling the mojave?

I hear a nuclear winter might be better

Now I imagine all Bethesda's characters voiced by Todd Howard doing awful impressions of other races and genders.

Have you heard any news from the other provinces?

That was one of the things that broke the illusion and took me right out of Skyrim. I couldn't enjoy it after a week because the game as a whole was so uncanny valley that I couldn't lose myself in it. I'd rather hear general ambient rabble in towns and read text from NPCs than hear the same lines and the same voice actors over and over.

the weirdest one was that they gave word for word the same dialogue to different voice actors. Like... why? Why not give the different voice actors different taunts?

You like the sight of your own blood?

I hate good neighbour

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

Never thought about it that way. Holy fuck no wonder it was extra annoying. How hard was thinking up a few more lines really? Even like a "You should have stayed away!" "You shouldn't have come here!" Super simple changes would have made it feel more real.

Tell me a joke

Sometimes i hear voices from Skyrim in other places and it's just... wrong. "This ain't you. You're fifty other dudes, but not this guy!"

It was the opposite for me. I recognized Michael Hogan (general tullius) immediately from Battlestar Galactica.

Michael Hogan (general tullius)

He'll always be Doc Mitchell to me.

Same, lol. He has a distinctive Canadian accent. source: I am Canadian.

And Jim Cummings is like three of them

I was so startled the first time I spoke to the court wizard in Windhelm and it was Tigger.

He's more than just Tigger. Go check out his imdb, dude does a fuck ton of voices.

He's more than just Tigger

No, but it seems 90% of his roles mix at least a smackerel of "pooh" into the voice.

Tell that to Monterrey Jack!

Oh, I know. Somehow he was in every game I played in 2012. I got very used to his voice. First it was Skyrim, then it was Dragon Age: Origins. Then Tigger was the big bad of Kingdoms of Amalur. Then, of all things, I recognized him behind a Krogan voice filter in Mass Effect.

He's in a lot of stuff, but it almost always sounds like Tigger to me. That's how I even know Jim's name. Had to look him up after the 3rd game I found him in.

he always comes back to winnie the pooh and Pete for me

What always blew me away was that they had a half dozen different voice actors record the exact same lines.

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Apparently they had voice actors read out their lines in alphabetical order for Oblivion.

Alphabetical order.

There's a few voice acting "outtakes" that got left in for some reason lol

Dave the intern had just spent 8 hours listening to the recordings and wanted to go home and masturbate. Probably.

Oh so that makes the "voice actor" gag in Fallout 76 kind of a tongue-in-cheek self reference, nice.

I swear like 80% of female voices in Oblivion are voiced by one lady. If you played the game you instantly know which one I mean.

All elves had only two voice actors. One for each gender.

Only 4 voices and only one guy uses a Nordic sounding accent.

Yup, the guy who does the voice of the town guard is also really common. You can hear him having a conversation with himself pretty frequently.

I think their limited voice cast is a matter of the cost of hiring voice actors.

By the Nine Divines!

Yeah I don't care about faces cause modders always fix those well, it's the voices that make the game seem like a repetitive fever dream.

If I ever have to hear Belathor deliver another line I'll kill myself.

or more than 0 NPCs

Is that still a problem? Skyrim was maddening.

People bitch, but I was a big fan of morrowind and oblivion. Morrowind didn't even have voices for the most part, it was mostly just text. Oblivion had outright terrible voice acting (by azura by azura by azura!), and a very small number of voice actors. Like each human race plus the beast races had only two voice actors, one for each gender. Nords and orcs shared two voice actors. All elves had only two voice actors. When I first played skyrim I was amazed at how many voice actors there where.

You shouldn't have come here

I'm haunted by Liam O'Brien in my dreams.

Hey there smoothskin.

Wait until you find out about the difference in technical limitations of a picture VS software.

Can't, the engine would catch on fire bolting something that advanced to it. It barely chugs with multiplayer.

Maybe we could patch it so that it performs best while on fire.

Maybe we could have the community patch it instead.

Congratulations! You are now employed by Bethesda

False. The community patch a group of 59 or so dedicated fans compiled is now on the "Workshop" and costs $9.99. Access to the workshop also costs 9.99 a month. Items from the workshop are not supported by Bethesda and any damage caused by use of said items is tough cookies. Thank you for supporting your favorite developer!

We are all employed by Bethesda on this blessed day!

Would that be a bug or a feature?

Depends, does it only activate when you cast a fire spell?

We could make it a fire spell

That sounds like a 250GB patch. Better let it run over night.

Make sure to wait for the patch patch or else the patch you spent all night downloading is gonna get deleted right away!

Damn you EA!!!!!

Like trying to load and fire a 20mm round from a Walmart BB gun.

I realize your joking, but it'd be pretty cool to spin this tech to rendering faces that games can use as static assets. Double since my understanding of the way these things work means they're really resource intensive (have one neural net generate a bunch of faces, and another filter out the ones that don't look "face-y" enough)

Even cooler if someone managed to make these return faces based on a description. Probably shave man-decades off the total effort expended in triple a game development

I could see that. I'd expect they'd still want artists to touch up the faces a bit, but with the AI forming the basis.

let the characters be ugly. it'll be even nicer to find actually nice looking ones.

That is very unlikely. You're always going to need a tailored base mesh, which only an artist can make. What AI can help with and already is are retopology and rigging.

Additionally, you could set up an elaborate character rig and let the AI set deformer values. The Sims already does this to some extent, but doesn't use AI to decide which deformers get which value. It's purely random. Imagine context aware AI assisting procedural character generators. I can think of places where that would be useful.

This is similar to the tech going in star citizen in a while, except they've got it down so it's basically on the fly generation, it doesn't need to be dropped into static assets.

https://youtu.be/MZqndIW6Hxc?t=1629 the tech is called Gene Splicing

More like they'd do it anyway and hope the community comes up with a solution for them.

Maybe they shouldn’t have ventured into multiplayer

Not to interrupt the Bethesda circlejerk here, but are we really gonna complain about this when (for example) Witcher 3 reused character assets constantly.

C'mon, merchant w/ glasses guy? There's like 30 of him all over the world map.

I'm mostly hating on the engine, samey faces is a minor annoyance at worst.

Yeah, imagine making games with procedurally generated characters with this technology, it would be amazing.

It's of course something that's being worked on, some limited tools already exist as far as I know.

https://youtu.be/MZqndIW6Hxc?t=1629 coming somewhat soon

I can see maybe in a few years a few AAA games for PC might have some system killer setting that will enable it, but the for the rest it could be much longer until it is seen in games. Games fundamentally go for more optimal rendering tech as much of gaming depends on responsiveness.

But don't take this as dissing it, Digital Foundry did a great video comparing the original toy story movie to the toy story kingdom hearts world and it is crazy that in ~20 years we went from something that took whole major buildings worth of cluster computers that could take hours to render a single frame and costing likely into the million to being able to render 30 of them in a second at a higher resolution on a machines that easily fit in a bookbag, and in a few years likely be able to do the same on something that fits in our pocket.

it could be much longer until it is seen in games

Yes, that's what I was thinking. Something in the future when we have proper "full dive" VR.

There's a bunch of games with create-a-character that just use created characters with a bunch of random values for the sliders as npcs in some scenarios. Obviously nowhere as advanced as this is.

Of course, I should have specified: *realistic procedurally generated characters.

https://youtu.be/MZqndIW6Hxc?t=1629 this is similar tech being developed for star citizen

Oh wow, that's really impressing. Not quite realistic, but close.

To state the obvious it's much more difficult to have a 3D model of a face than a 2D photo.

Sorry but this is going to porn first

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If it was a little less chubby I'd say it would be pretty close

Looks like a chubbier Todd Howard

They have other shit they need to be working on right now, don't you dare.

Careful, you mind wind up with an arrow to the knee...

I think large wealthy companies have likely already figured out how to use this technology to make money in really stupid fucked up ways that will make us all angry and will involve micro transactions and personal data leaking.

CdProject too. Witcher 3 has Pete Postwaite, Jerome Flynn (Bronn) and Zoe Dascheal everywhere.

"why are you guys mad, it's not called Bethesda Faceworks"

Just cause they can make 1000 faces doesn’t mean Bethesda aging engine can handle fitting them in memory. That’s the problem.

No more, you're frightening me...

Waste of time. The human eye actually can't see more than 30 fps and 12 faces at a time.

And it also can’t focus on more than one object. Peripheral vision doesn’t exist, it’s a myth

Why so that the institute can further their infiltration tactics? Nice try synth

Speaking of Bethesda. That person wearing pink in the bottom left area, above the guy with the glasses. Looks like Todd Howard crossed with Susan Boyle (X Factor).

They are too busy working on Mass Effect Andromeda at the moment.

I think they have more problems to worry about than having too little variety in faces.

BioWare should use it in the Asari for ME:A.

Jesus fuck lads can we not go one day without the circlejerk spilling over into other subreddits

Yeah maybe CD Projekt Red, as well.

Like I literally just helped Yontek turn his entire village back into human beings, why is he now trying to steal the Natalis card from Ravik and starting bar brawls with me?

You ever wake up one day, look at some small scale news report and just have your mouth drop cause you're living in the future? After virgin galactic's launch the other day, and now this I'm hyped to see where we can go from here

Yeah the progression of time is insane sometimes I wake up in the morning like wow it’s tomorrow then I realize I shit and pissed in my sleep

Wait what

YEAH THE PROGRESSION OF TIME IS INSANE SOMETIMES HE WAKES UP IN THE MORNING LIKE WOW IT'S TOMORROW THEN HE REALIZES HE SHIT AND PISSED IN HIS SLEEP

It's called aging.

Yeah the progression of time is insane sometimes I wake up in the morning like wow it’s tomorrow then I realize I shit and pissed in my sleep

must be annoying changing the sheets so often

Who said he changes his sheets?

Just turn them every time.

Spoiler: the sheets are AI generated.

Not the piss though. That was so real.

found the scat freak

LPT: Want a really clean bed? Pee the bed every night so you'll have to wash your sheets daily.

You slept like a baby

Aside from the obvious drawbacks, if I could sleep so hard that I shat myself and didn't notice, I'd be pretty happy.

I camed and shided and farted

That was a rollercoaster

I lost a lot of karma yesterday calling people gay and threatening to dab on them I need to get some of it back so I can post more (please upvote)

So Tuesday.

That escalated quickly.

Considering how easily this technology can be abused by political groups, corporations and opportunistic individuals, I wouldn’t say I’m hyped.

If anything, I am extremely concerned. Everyone should be.

I'm out of the loop and lazy. What's Virgin Galactic (obviously something space from Richard Branson) and what's the significance of their launch?

VG is a private launch company, and recently their airplane-rocket (dubbed "SpaceShipTwo") went above 80 km, which they are calling "space". This makes them the forerunner in the race to bring tourists to space. Further reading. (Article) More sources from Google News.

Oh it's an airplane rocket? So it can take off and land just like a plane? Now that has certainly got my attention.

The term of art is spaceplane. It launches from an airplane at altitude. It cannot get to space from ground level.

The term of art is spaceplane.

Its not, really, despite them wanting to sell it as such. A spaceplane actually goes into space.

Spaceplane does not imply stable orbit. Suborbital spaceplanes exist and SpaceShipTwo is one of them. The craft has been flown manned above 80 km, the US definition of space. The intended service ceiling is 110 km, well above the internationally accepted Kármán line and undoubtedly space.

No. It's an air-launched rocket. A SpaceShipTwo is carried to 52,000 feet (16 km) by a White Knight II carrier aircraft. It then fires its onboard rocket motor, spends what little time it does at altitude, and returns for an unpowered descent just like the Space Shuttle's (only much less violent, since it's suborbital-only).

They did say it was the "edge of space".

I'd like to hear their definition of the "edge of space" because there's no international law defining the edge of space.

I think we've reached the point where your pedantry is the problem.

It's not their definition. And it certainly is a legal one, It's called The Karman line

There is no international law defining the edge of space, and therefore the limit of national airspace, and the US is resisting regulatory movement on this front.

I was thinking wouldn't you say the "edge of the atmosphere"? We're already in space.

Okay. Interplanetary space. It’s not like anyone would ever be confused about it, but there you go.

Yes exactly, the edge of space implies it's instead the edge of the universe.

The Karman line is 100km, most scientists call that space

I know, that's why space is in quotations. VG is calling the 80 km the line to space.

That is because it is how NASA and USAF define it.

Nice but hobbyist.

Need moon shots

We've been doing that kind of thing for like 50 years, no?

Not in the sense of commercial passenger vehicles.

This one intends to do it in relative luxury and sell it as a commercial product. What NASA did was revolutionary but this puts it in the hands of (admittedly very wealthy) people who aren't astronauts.

Just typing 'Virgin Galactic' into google, rather than that whole useless comment would have given you your answer.

Virgin Galactic is a spaceflight company within the Virgin Group. It is developing commercial spacecraft and aims to provide suborbital spaceflights to space tourists and suborbital launches for space science missions. Virgin Galactic plans to provide orbital human spaceflights as well.

Their first test flight that reached space (~52miles) was last week.

Some people might like to learn from other people. Others might take pleasure in sharing their knowledge.

I'm on both sides of that.

Did you not see the lazy part?

Yeah, but that whole comment was a lot fucking longer than the two words you needed to google, so I don’t buy it.

Ya got me, I just wanted to have this interaction. . .

/r/Futurology

What an overly optimistic and naive sub.

Where were you for deepfakes? While this is higher resolution, I'd say deepfakes was a much more shocking implementation of a similar network.

Never heard of deepfakes, I'll have to do some research into that. Thanks for the recommendation!

I think it was used to generate an extremely convincing video of Trump announcing that he was launching nukes.

Also pasting celebrity faces on porn stars, so that you could have video porn of anyone you liked. It got scrubbed from the Internet pretty hard, but you can still find bits and pieces.

Until you see the pending ecological collapse thanks to climate change.

This futuristic shit ain't gonna matter when we're all dead.

Not hyped so much as terrified. What good uses could ever come out of this? I can only think of truly evil shit people could do with this.

I’m curious. What are you thinking of? If you’re actually terrified, there must be something there to terrify you, yes?

I try to live my life as a hopeful realist. Sure bad shit can happen but I want to find the good

Yeah, the day when we won’t be able to trust our own eyes can’t come soon enough.

It’s more like “great, now I have to check myself out at Walmart”

I had this conversation recently where i realized i couldn't imagine killing myself even in the darkest of times ( i've been in dark places and wouldn't wanna bagatilize suicide) just because of technological advancement i am witnessing in this marvelous era. Because it truly is marvelous and i can never take the time we live in for granted. Technology and human advancement is going in such an incredible rate. Everytime i read stuff about medical advancement, space exploration or name anything humans are pioneering in i just think: gotta be there to see it

And it just keeps getting faster...

I'm the opposite. I'm still longing for global Internet coverage of at least gigabit symmetric. I'm still waiting for a fully functional and 99% safe autonomous vehicle and I'm definitely eager to 3D-print my own waifu.

Stop living in the past and let's all get to work on the future.

I think I may have been ambiguous in my post, that is exactly how I feel as well but there are still things that happen that feel like waypoints on that journey. I agree wholeheartedly that we need to get our asses in gear and start developing more clean renewable energy and having safer transportation, but you cant be all go all the time and sometimes it's just nice to sit back a little and look at what we have accomplished. It may he slow but we are getting there

Virgin air is just part of the conspiracy to keep you from the truth! We never landed on the moon because the earth is flat dome earth.

Virgin galactic doing what now

Maybe one day we can land on the moon!

This tech could eventually be used to generate nudes of people that don't exist.

TBF, it could probably do it right now if you fed it enough pics of naked people.

The would probably come out as warped as the cats. Nightmare fuel there.

.......fine I just want to feel something

Yeah. Imagine those nudes with the facial expressions of these people. Also imagine the bias that nude photos are mostly gorgeous people who willfully give away their nudes.

Speak for yourself, what if i have a deformity fetish

Spencer Tunick has been secretly feeding it data for a few years now.

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That already happens.

Uhh I’d like some sauce with these fries

Google deepfakes. Those subreddits were banned and most of the websites hosting them have been taken down, but you might be able to find some on the shadier parts of the internet.

Also try voat subverse about it for some links.

We have bots that do that. Theyre called incels.

Imagine going to prison for some computer generated child porn. Would that be illegal? Deeply unsettling.

I'm pretty sure even hand drawn art depicting child porn is illegal, so yeah, probably. Something about perpetuating the behavior of seeking out child pornography. Though you could argue that this would cut down on that sort of thing.

Eventually...

I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one whose mind immediately went to porn

You mean guilt free child porn

I think the guilt comes from the fact that that is what it takes

What if they were to find thousand of images on someone's computer but could only identify a few hundred, the rest are not guilt free are they.

I'm trying to imagine the moral issues that might arise. If no consent was given for the pictures/videos to be made, does it matter the people don't exist? If I chat up a bot and it sends me nudes, am I having an affair? Is AI-generated beastiality porn vegan?

I would say; no consent required, they don't exist. Yes you are cheating at an emotional level, it's irrelevant if the person exists or not... And finally yes that would technically be vegan however I still don't recommend it.

you sure this isn't one of those "can you tell which is real or not?" things? a few of the pics appear to be clipped group photos

They're generated from a neural network that studies thousands and thousands of real photos and then creates original images from the patterns it detects. Because a lot of real photos include the clipped faces of friends, the generated images do too.

Here is a video explaining the process.

That’s crazy impressive. Even the transition between faces looks so smooth and perfect - like high end movie cgi.

Well, this is literally high-end CGI in movie format.

Your comment is so smooth and perfect - almost like it was written by a person. Where I can get comments like this

/r/AliensAmongUs

I don't trust you

Morphing between images like that isn't especially new. It's still being improved on, but you've had decent quality for a while now.

This is something very different than raster image interpolation, it’s interpolation of abstract styles and features. Almost every face within the the interpolations is a valid face, and not just an average of two images. For example, going from a face with glasses to one without glasses—there is a discrete point at which the glass go away, instead of the frames becoming increasingly transparent

While that's true, I feel like that misses the point of what impressed the other user. Given how these images are being built, you would expect all of the "intermediate" images to be progressing in a rough continuum. It's a natural biproduct of those weights adjusting at a constant rate.

Pretty amazing, the only thing that looks off to me is how a lot of the faces have one big centered tooth like tom cruise

What if Tom Cruise isn’t real

Good point, I've never seen him and NIVIDIA’s neuro-network together in the same room

It's funny you say that because the one in the bottom left looked like a discount Tom Cruise to me.

To be more precise, imagenet has 32000 faces. A lot of them are from cropped group photos.

To actually be precise, ImageNet has 1.3M images. Also, this was not trained on ImageNet, but a currently unreleased dataset called FFHQ compiled from Flickr posts, as explained in the paper.

To actually be precise

Oh you nasty!

Ahh, nice to see MTurk yet again on the forefront of this stuff. Too bad those guys / us get paid pennies for this shit. I worked on this dataset myself, it was a better paying one because they only wanted us to get rid of false positives. ie "is this a photo of a person," which the generator already could figure out but got confused by statues and pictures of pictures. But it was still pennies.

I hear the prices for non-specialized tasks are really low in general, no? People from India do it for a lot less than, say, an American, yet do just as fine of a job.

The Indians probably did the lions share of them and for them it was probably a good effort. A 'job' (called a HIT for MTurk workers) like that would be up for maybe an hour if that and the entire dataset would be very reliably cleaned up since humans are really good at this. I do it mainly for fun and booze money while listening to a podcast or something. But I know of shut ins (Americans) who actually make their living on there and I feel bad at their pay. But they're competing with even poorer people so yeah.

I said faces, not images. Didn't know about the Flickr dataset. All the papers have used imagenet before.

Well, ImageNet also does not have 32,000 faces. All of the 1000 different classes consist of no more than 1300 images. I actually don't know any GAN (or any generative model) trained on ImageNet (save for BigGAN maybe), which is mostly used for supervised learning tasks such as classification. The face dataset that all the papers use is actually CelebA.

I was going off of this

When papers mention the ImageNet dataset, they usually mean the subset defined for the ILSVRC 2012 challenge, consisting of 1.3M images^1 , not the full ImageNet dataset of 14M images. See https://arxiv.org/abs/1409.0575

^1 for which there is a bundled download on the website

I feel like every day the simulation theory becomes more valid.

This. The title implies the images were created out of thin air, but it takes a base image and takes bits and pieces from other images, merges them and smoothens the boundaries.

No, paper contains comparison to nearest neighbors in training set. They are very different.

That's incredible.

Many parts of that were reminiscent of psychedelic experiences I’ve had.

Very cool! Thanks for sharing. Loved at the end it was used on cars and bedrooms. Changing the coarse styles in those cars and bedrooms was much more trippier than changing faces. Imagine if reality changed like that right in front of you.

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This is just something that humanity doesn't need.. Terrifying.

You can see the clipped face looks really wonky in OP though.

So they can basically predict the look of your potential children... Wow

Wow that's a bit of a letdown. It's a glorified randomized face swap

That’s absolutely not what it is.

Because the training set contains cropped group photos.

Oddly- it is a bit of a "can you tell which one is real" things.

But the thing trying to tell the difference is not human.

A Generative Adversarial Network has two networks. The generator generates images, and the discriminator tries to determine whether it's a real photo or not. Before they do this, they are each trained on a large database of real images. The networks are rewarded/punished based on their success/failure--so each gets better and better at their job. This is about as well as I understand it. But it's a fascinating way to speed up the training process.

I was thinking the same thing but the paper is linked up in the this thread.

It's also NVIDIA, a company not known well for their honesty.

I'm pressing X to doubt this post.

Look again at the bottom sixth row around the middle. There's a 'cropped group photo'... Except, look at the cropped face to the left and try to imagine the rest of it. It has a bizzarly large forehead and general frame. Not a "haha, youtuber has large forehead" but like freakishly big.

Typical GAN artifact. Images look real for some time, then you realize all the things that aren’t right.

Second column, second from the bottom is just Steve Coogan and Susan Boyles daughter.

It says faces, not photos, so I'm guessing that the body/background (/maybe also the hair?) is not generated but from some other source, photos

Anyone else creeped out by this?

Yep, I get a really spooky feeling when I look into these peoples eyes and know they do not and did not ever exist.

Don't worry, as someone relatively familiar with neural networks, I can tell you any detectability from the eyes will be a flaw of the particular network structure or initialisation. With a few larger convolutional filters, the next version will easily capture and synthesise the appearance of a soul for you.

Ok great! Can't wait for that thread. o_O

It depends on how close this generated space is to the space of possible human faces. If there is considerable overlap, and there should be the more they look like human faces then it possible that they once did or someday will exist; just that these are not photographs of them.

My brain can’t even comprehend that. I just look at them and think they must really be people. We’re so used to seeing pictures of people we will never meet or know anything about and I think my brain just lumps them in the same category.

it hurts my brain. Also they have the eyes of people who are dead inside

They're all staring directly into the camera with those dead eyes. It's weird looking at their faces and knowing there's no thoughts behind them.

soon we will see 50 penises that don't exist

Lol. Number 45 will SHOCK you!!

What is the point of this? Why are they creating this? That's what I keep wondering. I get that Frankenstein/Jurassic Park feeling

I'm mostly creeped out by the AI made cat pictures. Uncanny valley is just really creepy.

You know the planes on 9/11 were computer-generated, right? Go look at some old footage. It does not hold up well.

Welcome. Welcome to your new reality.

So how long until we start having bloody synths walking among us?

Only thing to do is fuse ourselves with the AI before it has a chance to kill us

Once we're a wired up for our eyes to see augmented reality we won't be able to know what's real and what's not.

This is actually really creepy.

I got a little Nauseous when I was looking at it. The implications of the ability to do this. The first thing that came to mind is coups or the conspiracy theories like sandy hook.. ppl Say that the photos of the victims are actors or otherwise not real/ photoshopped. Now I can’t say boo to that theory but you can’t deny that the tech is there to falsify any images of victims perpetrators incidences and coups. Any news story could be falsified with this ability. What is real any more and what is false

Or just video as evidence in general... At which point do security cameras lose all their value if everyone can argue that it's just faked, especially when those cameras start to utilize AI more in general to detect stuff.

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Yes but now you can’t even trust your own eyes! Documents and history has been falsified sure and last few years you can’t trust a photo but when it comes to is this a real person or a cgi and you can’t tell that’s next level lies

We will probably need to go back to film.

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But didn't the stop making the stuff? I think it's only aftermarket companies now if they are even still doing it.

Believe it or not, I just saw a post yesterday about someone’s sister buying him an old Polaroid Onestep and how excited he was to use it.

I thought to myself “Yeah, good luck, they quit making that film years ago.”

But out of curiosity, I did a little research.

Lo and behold!

They still sell the stuff. I guess you just don’t see it in stores anymore because who buys it?

After Polaroid stopped making their film a group of people came together to keep making film for instant cameras. Called The Impossible Project, they bought some Polaroid manufacturing equipment and started recreating their version of the original film. It took a bit for them to get it close to the original Polaroid quality. It's much better now and they've recently re-branded themselves as Polaroid Originals. Lots of fun to shoot with this film and people still love to hold a photograph in their hands that isn't on a phone.

As creepy as creep asterisks in texts?

Not close. Creepy like your neighbor maintaining eye contact as your walking away.

*wonders what it is that my fair maiden means*

*generates faces using NVIDIA'S neuro-network, none of which are real*

The young woman in the top middle is the kindest looking person I’ve ever seen. But that’s probably just so that you’ll lower your guard for the robots when the machines become self aware.

Like Ex Machina.

So she’s a mashup of pornstars?

Spoiler alert...

Yes.

Exactly like Ex Machina.

I read this as kinkiest and I stared at her for a long time trying to see how

Kind and kinky? Yes, please.

Mum's the kink, mum's the word

I feel the same way about the middle aged woman with the big photo. Like, I want her to be real and to be my mom.

I swear that's just a straight up photo of Jessica Mauboy

Makes me think that the neural network used one of her pictures as a source for its learning. Good spot.

She looks kinda like my middle school English teacher who was one of the sweetest teachers I ever had!

Which position? I can't tell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etJ6RmMPGko

They're not fooling anyone, that's totally Vicky from The Good Place.

This in the hands of game developers, awesome. This in the hands of politicians, terrifying.

What about the militaries? Oh here’s your bomber! We heard he was in Baghdad, better go spend 50 years looking for him!

Little do we know, we’re not looking for anyone at all. This could be applied to any nation or military to strike out against any other nation or military too.

Yea but why not make it fun for chubby neckbeards while helping creating dystopian societies across the globe?

This is actually kinda unsettling

Yeah, they all seem, like, unsettlingly familiar?

Unsettlingly epic!

Is it just me or is anyone else really fucking unsettled by this

I would say just about everyone, judging by all the comments I've read so far.

Generally speaking, human beings are easily unsettled by anything that is new to them. So, you're probably not the only one.

Stock photo models hate this.

Oh, for stock photos this would be amazing. No copyright issues because the face belongs to no one.

Nvidia owns these and, if it keeps generating, soon probably your face too.

https://i.imgur.com/Mxdy27g.png

I'm getting a terrible sinking feeling at this and I don't know why.

I feel like I already saw this before and it didn't end good

Username checks out

Holly shit, I feel like for some reason this is very important, and that by the time I figure out why - it'll be too late...

Your friend Holly Shit won’t see this comment if you don’t tag her properly

Don't worry my dude, its already too late and none of us have it figured out.

They’re coming for you. Get out not while you still can. Change your passwords. Your replacement is due any moment.

imagine looking at this and seeing yourself as one of them

there are definitely people that look exactly like at least one of these, we already have people who are basically copies of each other

This is disturbing

What if this neural net is smart and lazy and just finds a face picture to display. “Yeah, I made up that face, want another? Here you go...” -neural net-

"these fucking meatbots are so gullible man"

This is a really good point. We have no idea how close the model is being fit to the training data, which could actually have some pretty serious privacy concerns. Folks are uncomfortable with how realistic the faces look, but they might get even more uncomfortable if they figure out that their entire facebook history went into the training set. Though, admittedly, generating realistic faces is easier than most people might think (at least the shapes, you still need good lighting/texture/background to sell it).

This made me uncomfortable

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What’s the difference?

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I worry constantly about the near future as deep fakes become better and better. How can any Western justice system manage to deal with a world in which physical evidence can simply be generated at will? Piss someone off, here’s a video of you kicking a baby, with audio of you admitting to other crimes as well. Hell, forget courts of law; this has the potential to be utterly devastating in the court of public opinion.

Yea, and legal systems are notoriously slow to catch up to tech. How many people can get locked up or worse because "evidence" comes up showing they did something they never did.

I guess as a safeguard, don't put thousands of pictures of yourself online. That should keep you safe in the short term. I'm not so sure about when the algorithms get better and require less training material.

brb deleting all pictures of myself

I'm sure we can come up with an encryption scheme; for example, cameras with embedded encryption keys in all the video they generate or something. So you could verify if a certain camera recorded a certain video at a specific time. I'm just spitballing, idk

Block chain to the rescue finally!

50 years ago that had to be visible in front of a film camera. 100 years ago, that technology did not exist. I have a feeling we will just revert back to that, live video will be helpful to stop or solve crimes that are happening that second, but video will ultimately be just as unreliable as witness testimony.

blockchain could be a great way to prevent this. look at truepic for example. the raw data of a picture is "stored" in a blockchain and thus not alterable later.

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Do you tape all your cameras and disable all your microphones? What about public cameras and microphones? Wear a mask and voice changer everywhere? Oh, I was the only one? Ok!

Imagine the American propaganda when they get their hands on this!

Here's footage of a foreign diplomat's bodyguards, beating up US citizens on US soil...
Oh, wait.

Imagine the whataboutisms. Oh wait.

Dude, we've had deep fakes for a while. Combine that with the technology that lets you put a person over someone else's movements. And it ain't just the Russians that are doing it.

Holy shit dem implications...

Deep fakes already exist

I know they do, they have a name and we know it is a problem after all.

With programs like this, that is gonna seem trivial.

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it doesn't have to be about war.

russia just wants to sow discord, confusion.

Agitprop, abbreviated from Russian agitatsiya propaganda (agitation propaganda), political strategy in which the techniques of agitation and propaganda are used to influence and mobilize public opinion.

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that it will probably get easier to manipulate the gullible masses.

and those masses do have the power to vote.

just one of the reasons i don't believe democracy is the way to go.

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i don't want to go back to the old ways, if they had worked better we would still be using them after all :)

sorry for being vague.

yah... the "Russians"

I hate it, thanks.

You only hate it because it’s so surreal and epic

Can't wait to see the porn it generates.

Cutting right to the chase huh?

We were all thinking it. He was just willing to say it.

Don’t tell me they just changed a single hair strand and said it’s different lol.

Looks like it takes multiple photos of different people and makes composites of them. They're not generated from scratch, like the title seems to imply.

They take millions of images to "learn"what a face looks like. Then they generate a face randomly and validate it actually looks like a face. Then they change random parts of the face until it looks more and more like a face according to the algorithm. This is what they end up with. So they are completely from random data

No that's wrong. You can see it in the video.

They change details of an existing photo with facial recognition. Every head you see on this collage has a original head (as obvious as it sounds) that looks similar. They even use transitions and this is all technology that existed in the 90s. If the images were entirely synthetic it would need to also create poses, lightning and surroundings. Which it doesn't.

That's not true. This paper did show style transfer. It's actually the coolest part if the paper. Where they took a base image of a real person and applied different styles to that base image. But the technology used to apply those styles also can generate completely new images/faces not present in the training set. One thing researchers will often do is show example images from the dataset that are most similar to the generated images. Which I don't believe was done in this paper. So it is actually a little tough to say that there aren't similar images in the training set. But this tech has shown repeatedly that it generated new and unique images.

"That's not true"

And then you explain that it is true. Way to waste some time! It's awesome machine learning tech but the headline is exaggerated and the claim that those faces are generated in their entirety ala building blocks is absolutely false. It's modified photos.

It isn't true. The model in question is a variant of a Generative Adversarial Network which also learns different levels of similarity between images allowing it to both generate better samples and interpolate between images while applying different "styles". It's perfectly capable of generating entirely new images based on its understanding of what a sample from the training data looks like. Here's the paper itself, it's quite interesting and builds of NVIDIA's previous work with their PGGAN which generates high quality new samples. GANs attempt to model the underlying distribution of the training data by generating samples and then feeding those samples into another network which tries to tell if the samples actually came from the training data or if they were generated from scratch. The key part to understand is that the network generating the new samples never actually gets to see any of the training data itself. It only gets to know how good it was it fooling the discriminator network. All learning takes place based on this information, the generator network never even gets to see the actual data and must instead learn to generalize. You clearly don't understand what you're talking about.

Those faces are generated from random data in the latent style space. It looks like in the style mixing from the video they are starting with two different generated images and applying parts of one images style to the other.

... Citation needed?

Every head you see on this collage has a original head (as obvious as it sounds) that looks similar.

My understanding is no, none of these have an "original head" that they're based on. This is a GAN, and that's not the way GANs work. What makes you say that every head in the collage has an original head?

If the images were entirely synthetic it would need to also create poses, lightning and surroundings. Which it doesn't.

I don't know on what basis you're saying it would need to, and I don't know on what basis you're saying it doesn't.

If the images were entirely synthetic it would need to also create poses, lightning and surroundings. Which it doesn't.

It's only a matter of time though. We'll see it in our lifetimes.

Lightening strike would look cool.

Read the paper. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

This is untrue.

A generative adversarial network doesn't work from image patches, it generates synthetic examples that are convincing enough to trick a neural network (discriminator) into thinking its a real image. Many papers also show the most-similar images from the training set for each generated example, and they're typically very different.

Um, no. How do you seem so certain about this? That's a really basic concept and very clearly generated from scratch. Just because you feed it real faces doesn't mean the results are simple edits. It just means that the network uses those faces as a baseline for face synthesis.

They’re generated using 100 random numbers as input. They very much ARE generated from scratch, as hard as that may be to believe.

I don't know the actual kernel sizes used in this work, but I can tell you the chunks of images usually used for this type of network are below 10x10 pixels more of the time. More often 5x5 and below. And those 5x5s are layered on top of each other, so it won't just be like a 5x5 chunk of Charlie Sheen next to a 5x5 chunk of Chris Pratt. More like every 5x5 chunk is an amalgam of thousands of 5x5 chunks.

I'm dumbing down a lot, but that's the vague idea.

Edit: I should add, the input literally is a random image of noise, which then flows through a series of connections randomly selecting which chunks get smashed together. The particular configuration of the connections make sure it comes out like a face, and the chunks selected are sort of just cut up bits of faces, but the input at the start when you're asking for a random face really is random data.

The YouTube video from the article linked elsewhere does a decent job of showing this. They seem to have various levels of "styles" to apply, from 4x4 to 1024x1024.

That's interesting, but now I want to see their actual code. 1024*1024 filter sizes is a distant dream for our graphics cards at work, and they're top-end cards. I guess this could have been done on a rack of cards, or with very few large filters maybe.

So, it takes some static, and adds pieces of face until it looks like a face?

That's essentially right, but it's important to note that the "static" it takes in is not the same dimensions/shape as the image itself. It's typically a single vector (row) of numbers, with a length in the hundreds. The generated image consists of - for say a 256x256 image - 196,608 numbers. So it performs a pretty complex mapping from these few hundred random input values to the image out the other side.

It seems to get a little more complicated in this particular example, having looked a little more into it. This network appears to be a conditional generative adversarial network, as opposed to just generative as stated in the title (the community plays fast and loose with the terms, and there's no definitive naming convention set in stone, but I find the 'conditional' modifier helpful). A conditional generative network will take random noise, but add user-defined input to it. For instance in this work, the user-defined input could be 'age' and 'has glasses', and be added to noise, which then goes on to be turned into a realistic person of the specified age with glasses.

They very much are generated from scratch. What you've described isn't the way generative adversarial networks work, the title is really a much better description of what's actually going on in this case (ignoring the spelling errors).

The network isn't just using pictures of real faces, cutting them up, and gluing them back together in a new order. It's teaching itself what a face is, and then creating a new face from random data until the generated faces are indistinguishable from actual faces.

Additional, much more technical information here.

I'm pretty sure its cutting up real photos and gluing them together. Just in a smart way.

https://craftwhack.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/face8.jpg

Can any of us be made up from scratch?

What would scratch be?

Yeah that’s what I was thinking, very misleading

Looks like it takes multiple photos of different people and makes composites of them.

That's accurate, if by "multiple photos" you mean "tens of thousands of photos".

That. Looked it up. "based on genuine photos" They only modify photos.

Yeah, it’s “based on genuine photos” the same way drawings using photographs as a reference are “based on genuine photos.” That doesn’t mean anything about the origin of the images, only what had to be “learned” to create them.

Bad comparison.

Says the person who clearly still doesn’t understand the comparison

They change details of an existing photo with facial recognition. Every head you see on this collage has a original head (as obvious as it sounds) that looks similar. They even use transitions and this is all technology that existed in the 90s. Just much more sophisticated.

The easiest example would be yellow teeth going whiter with a slider. They analyse each part of a face and can morph it around.

If the images were entirely synthetic it would need to also create poses, lightning and surroundings. Which it doesn't. You can see it in nvidias video on youtube.

You can see that you’re wrong just by looking at how the algorithm works. The GAN takes a 100 dimensional random vector as input and nothing else. Using those 100 random numbers it outputs a face. There are experiments that show it doesn’t just memorize the training data either.

The images are very much entirely synthetic. Things like lighting and poses are inferred by the training data distribution and become part of the latent space topology.

A computer generated these faces after looking at 32,000 pictures

this was my thought instantly after reading the title.

There are 7 bilion people in the world. At least one of those faces has got to be identical with some living person

Fuck. We're doomed.

My brain perceives all of these faces as being foreign, regardless of ethnicity. What's up with that?

Your brain is an alien.

Open and shut case, Johnson

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I think they meant foreign as in "from another country," not "subtly strange."

Uncanny valley is not about faces looking foreign.

Over-representation of non-Americans in the training data (which came from Flickr photos) vs what you encounter in everyday life.

unless you have a picture of every face on the planet, you cannot prove 100% that none of these faces are real.

If a computer happens to generate a picture that coincidentally looks just like a real person, does that make the picture real?

No

If the pictures aren't real, then how can we be real?

Monkeys with typewriters kind of thing?

The faces could be real but these are not photographs

never said they were

They have been constructed using the data from other human faces...just like we are, so are they any less real than our own?

Fuckin precisely

The most telling comments in this thread are the ones where people don’t believe these are generated. This tech is going to be a huge problem.

Hmmm

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It's like how Jotaro's hair blends into his hat in JoJo's Bizarre Adventures.

This is disturbing

I really hope that this is in the relatively near future of gaming

only gaming? I'm here thinking about virtual reality and porn, god damn.

You can tell they used base pictures. I distinctly see Michael Cohen's glasses in one of those shots.

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What's the point in doing this though?

Because it creates realistic images. If you tried to do it with a normal neural network it would try and score well by making average (blurry) images. Somehow the competitive network manages to make clear ones because the discriminator network, like us, won't be fooled by blurry images even though they are mathematically (by pixel value) close to real.

Animate this and you never have to pay actors for commercials again, or extras in movies or music videos. Heck you could pay someone minimum wage to keep social media accounts for semi famous film actors that are completely fictional.

Yes they did, as training data. The AI then generates completely new images by combining features from the training data, to make new faces that don't exists in the original data.

So machines are learning to inference..... Im thinking this is a bad idea. Soon they will be inferring what is best for us and take over. ( well more than they already do)

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But it's when all these small specialised networks are joined together...

There is actually a project to do just that, in order to create an AGI, artificial general intelligence.

/r/SingularityNet

No, you should not be scared, but there are potential real dangers, so you should at least be aware of them. Look into the /r/ControlProblem and /r/agi and /r/singularity

Theres a great argument to be had about whether deepfakes are unethical or not.

Idk, putting it like that isnt really what's going on. In a sense, the machine is learning to infer. But only in the context that the neural network algorithm learns a function that is able to hopefully capture the features of the image data that the researchers gave it.

It's not learning how to infer in the sense that now we have a machine that thinks "haha! I've learned to infer" but more so we have a goddam amount of numbers that can be plugged into an algorithm and then create "new" faces.

Maybe if they combined a massive amount of these algorithms and then automated it, would the machine be able to "infer".

You might be joking, but, AI is actually something to be concerned about, but not really in the way you're thinking probably.

Lots of world leaders, too. I like playing "spot Justin Trudeau".

Yeah people seem to be under the impression this is CGI. It’s more like AI enabled photobashing using a large set of pictures of faces.

You can also tell they optimized facial placements. Look at how perfect the seperate features are oriented and duplicated.

Wait these ain’t real faces or people?

generated faces by AI, most probably it studied thousands of faces and creating them randomly

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Generative adversarial networks (GANs) are a class of artificial intelligence algorithms used in unsupervised machine learning, implemented by a system of two neural networks contesting with each other in a zero-sum game framework. They were introduced by Ian Goodfellow et al. in 2014. This technique can generate photographs that look at least superficially authentic to human observers, having many realistic characteristics (though in tests people can tell real from generated in many cases).

The faceless men are quite pleased by this news

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I guess that news reporter from Deus Ex: HR will become a reality.

With the trend of new technologies emerging to the public years after military has had it, whats to say this hasn't already happened in one form or another?

How long until state media doesn't have to employ newscasters in order to have a talking head on their station?

What if they didn't make it public knowledge?

Without insulting me and calling me a complete moron for a conspiracy theory, but this really does throw out the question:

What if Osama Bin Laden wasn’t even a real person?

CGI technology is exponentially getting better at producing realistic mockups and compositions. More often than anything, the product images we render at work for marketing (as an example) look so real you wouldn’t even be able to guess that they haven’t gone into production yet. Often we just have the product’s design and that’s it. Not even a physical prototype.

Yes products are much easier to model and render, at least with consumer technology.. but if can apply this to human faces and with these faces attach an “idea”, you can quite literally create a political agenda using just software & hardware.

In other news; NEW FACEBOOK DATA LEAKS ACCIDENTALLY SHARES MILLIONS OF PRIVATE PHOTOS (no, this really just happened).

That’s scary.

I am uncomfortable now.

Well. That's horrifying.

Horrifyingly epic!

Christ, why

Video games, movies, other entertainment.....

.....

Porn.

Propaganda, blackmail, scamming, false accusations...

Funny, I came across this yesterday before even seeing this post today. https://www.wired.com/story/lil-miquela-digital-humans/

What in the unholy fuck

Even fashion models are victims of automation

Basically, because someone smart enough to do it thought they could and was able to talk someone else into putting up the money. At the heart of every great software advancement are developers who just want the satisfaction of seeing their code compile. Humans are like moths to a flame when it comes to discovering new things. This technology is a novelty. If anything is worth worrying about, it would be A.I getting a bit out of hand.

Interesting but scary

That’s terrifying.

For someone such as myself who is out of the loop, what exactly is a neuro-network??

A neural network is a framework for machine learning algorithms that approximates how organic brains (like our) work. You have a number of nodes. Some of the nodes are inputs. Some of the nodes are 'hidden'. Some of the nodes are outputs. All of the input nodes are connected to all of the 'hidden' nodes. All of the 'hidden' nodes are connected to all of the output nodes. Each node is an artificial neuron - an algorithm that takes one or more inputs, puts them through a function, and transmits the output.

Here's a good video (series) that goes into it.

Wow. We're skipping right over the uncanny valley these days.

Terrifying

Terrifyingly epic!

This is immensely creepy.

I

do not like this

So they’re not able to make Asian faces

Neither is NIVIDIA ...

That’s fucking scary.

Nvidia needs to fucking stop. We are at the brink of not knowing if what we see online or on the TV is real or not all because of what Nvidia and other tech companies are doing. Who does this benefit?

It's already hard to tell with lots of things. It's safe to assume nothing you see online or on tv or film is real. Kinda solves itself.

Terrifying, and I love it at the same time. We are moths to the flame.

I fell in love with one of these and then I read the title...

RIP humanity

Looks like they solved the uncanny problem.

I don't like it......

That makes me really uncomfortable for some reason

Hoooooly shit one of the photos there looks exactly like my cousin as a child. I am scared

It’s really interesting that none of them are extremely good looking

Nvidia tech out here making your average joe

This weirds me out knowing none of these people will or have ever existed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSLJriaOumA

This video legit freaked me out

I want to see the comments

Imagine seeing one of the faces in here and catching feelings (it can happen). That would be so weird falling for someone that doesn’t even exist..

What's the purpose of this? Definitely makes me uncomfortable haha. But is there a benefit?

The craziest part about this to me is that I see these faces and feel bad that they don't have an opportunity to live a life it's fucking weird

I see only 1 flaw:

in the picture of the chubby girl near the bottom right the network attempted to generate a second face on the edge of the image and seriously fucked it up.

Besides that, it’s WAY too realistic and scares the shit out of me that I can now be framed for crimes remotely.

Don’t look at the faces, but at the backgrounds. They’re always made of stretched and repeated elements and never look quite right, especially when there’s text. Sections of the background may be discernible, but in whole it just doesn’t ever seem right. Apart from looking for stretching on the hair, which I can’t see in any of these examples, that’s a way more reliable way to sniff out the kind of computationally randomized face pictures.

Granted, the top left photo has the most realistic looking background, which may be why it was featured so prominently.

"Oh cool, they look so real! Can't believe none of them are real-"

Sees self in one of the pictures

"Hol up"

Your really going to sneak Jonah hill in there and think I won’t notice ?

where

Second column from left, second picture from bottom (purpleish shirt/sweater)

that does NOT look like jonah hill lmao

Wtf yeah he does haha

none of them are real.

They are all made out of photos of real people so it's tiny parts of real people mushed together.

Actually terrifying considering theyve done something the human brain cant do on its own

NIVIDIA?

Ni!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIV4poUZAQo

Yea, but where's Waldo?

There... There aren't any East Asians. We must be the only real people in the world. TIME TO REMOVE THE PAPER PEOPLE.

Yes, East Asians are the only group of people not represented there xD

There’s only one black person, and I have to zoom in to see him

Since you all look the same, there's no need to artificially generate novel East Asian faces. /s

This is crazy

This is insane.

I know all of these people

Weird because I look just like the girl all the way to the left, second row down. I thought it was a picture of me

This is the worst Drake meme copy yet.

I’m extremely impressed and somewhat terrified.

What is really interesting is the fact that some of these people probably still do exist somewhere... or at least a super close doppelgänger

This gives me very high hope for VR porn. I’m not a guy.

Between this and the AI that can create a city landscape in real time, video games are going to be amazing in just a few years

r/interestingasfuckbutcreepyashell

It makes me feel sad and I don't know why

That's not technically true. It's fed a bunch of faces so they are technically real, but just algorithmic representations of averages.

I feel like the amount of ways that this technology could be used for evil is crazy disproportional to the ways it which it could be used for good

This valley is too canny

The little girl with an old woman's face on the bottom right is uncanny.

It’s wild to look at a picture of someone (?) and realize that they don’t exist and never have existed.

This is probably false, as many people there are in the world or have been, some, if not most, of these faces have existed on a person. Look at doppelgängers, yes a coincidence, but a computer could also do the same. So these faces are real

Its only weakness is understanding how hats look.

Is it just me, or does everyone kinda look familiar? Like I recognize them but can't quite remember their name.

I'm someone with a passion for computer science studying AI in school; I still think that's terrifying

Imagine seeing your own face on there..

Aaannd we"re fucked

Knowing that these faces are not real makes them look creepy and soulless. Anyone else see that?

The power of infinity tells me that these are all real people.

fuck fuck fuck FUCK

How can they guarantee these aren’t/weren’t real people?

There are about 7 billion people currently living with billions more who have once lived. I’d say the chances are high that at least one of these are an actual person.

You look at a face and think they have years of memories and experiences, then think "you dont exist".

Weird feeling, almost like seeing a ghost.

Somebody send this to the bethesda devs!

Forgive us, for we shall act... The nobodies, that's what I call them, the people that should not exist. The warnings came early in their history, but they were distracted. Distracted by trivial politics and hate. Their attempts to solve complex problems have backfired. Initially they thought they had the solution, the air was better, the oceans were crystal clear, but there is one pollution they cant stop, their making was their undoing. They could only grow so much, the killings, the greed and parasitic nature has brought them here. Today, they are the threat, and there is nothing they can do about it.

They have had this technology in limited form for years, this example is the most advanced I have ever seen.

It is now possible to easily invent people from pictures. Very useful when faking terrorist attacks.

^My thoughts exactly when I saw this!

Does this not terrify any of you?

Why do we need this?

Who says we need this? It’s just technology, i’m sure we will find ways of implementing it in the coming future

I was literally just asking why. It’s weird.

If you were to tell me these faces were computer generated I would call you a liar

There’s really not too many differences in humans to make. Sure, there about a billion unique things that can differentiate us but that still leaves 7-8 people just like you (based on simple averages)

Why is the love child of jim from the office and ted cruize there

Holy fuck I'm not the only one seeing it.

He really fucking does look like Jim from the office.

It was a wild night

This doesn’t look like anything to me.

Wait what is this for exactly ?

Nividia is into some crazy shit. Love it

There are definitely people who look exactly like everyone here

I’m pretty sure the dude in pink is Jonah Hill

i refuse to fucking believe this what the fuck

Like how not real?

What the fuck

Wait is that young been Shapiro?

Significance?

It is official, we live in the matrix

amazing.

That is scary

gta6 looking promising

Wait, what?

Bottom right is me though

Eventually all these faces will exist

Doesn’t look like anything to me

Surely there’s someone out there that looks like one of these people

Interesting that there are no facial hair pics.

Tf you mean none of these are real??

This is scary.

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Scary.

This makes me sad :(

oh look it's my girlfriend

she doesn't exist :(

Stock photo models are fucked!!

This is scary.

They’re real to their mothers you son’bitch!

NEURALFACESMATTER

They're not very diverse.

Nvidia neuronet processor still doesn't recognize black people.

Bill Gates isn't real?

Does this mean randomly generated porn is coming soon ?

Holy shit we're coming out of the uncanny valley.

Teach it porn.

Living in a simulation is definitely confirmed

What is neuro network??!!

One of those is my girlfriend. She lives out of town. She’s a model so....yeah.

Not surprised they're majorily light skinned.

This is actually really scary.

This makes me feel uneasy..

Back in the 90s, I expected we'd have this level quality for NPCs in games by now. Instead we have Fortnite.

source?

I'm having some sort of opposite uncanny valley thing going on.,

Like, I'm absorbed into the fact that these are people and then I feel a scared sadness when I remember they're not.

What's happening to me?

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Sign me up for the ironic robot apocalypse

Be interesting to know if anyone does see a photo that looks like them.

Imagine being attracted to one of these faces. There is litterally zero probability you will ever even meet them.

Apparently I’m the computer generated child on the middle row https://imgur.com/gallery/rosZDX7

I'm confused.

Nobody's gonna talk about how the bottom left guy is basically Kappa?

It's funny when i search the image itself it doesn't show any sources, it categorizes it as a collage and shows online tools to create them.

It's either that this is not entirely true or Google tries to hide what Nvidia is capable of...

Wait, that's my girlfriend...

A. Not sure I believe this. B. This is terrifying.

I don’t believe you. These are all crisis actors

A great way to tell how beautiful or ugly your kids will be.

Now if only my parents had this

I think I speak for everyone when I say WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT.

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Cool to think that Nvidia is working con creating different NPCS for a full fledged DnD campaign

Hey one of those is a picture of me!

Heh... just kidding.

Can someone explain the point of this technology? No doubt its amazing, i just dont see what it can be used for.

"Welcome to Sinclair broadcasting." "We found it was much cheaper to fire all the newscasters and replace them with computer models."

Shit! Then why's my gf on there?

/latenitethoughts

Imagine a world where everyone wears a Google glass-type thingy all the time, AI's are self-conscious and can create an avatar that appears to be standing in the physical world, indistinguishable from other humans.

Source or trolling?

Edit this picture and replace a single picture with someone you have on social media and then share that picture with this headline. Wait for them to notice.

We could be living inside a simulation simulating how the simulator was built

This makes me oddly uncomfortable.

none of them are real

Damn, I could’ve sworn my girlfriend was in there somewhere.

Looks like the printer was a bit low on black ink.

This is scary quite frankly. Think of the implications of this technology we're in the wrong hands.

Especially if you can get this into videos or camera footage. It'd be pretty easy to frame people for crimes they didn't commit.

Alright. Someone get in here right now and explain how this works

Let's see them taking a shit on Daffy Duck.

I don’t like it

Great episode for Black Mirror!

Anyone else just get major anxiety from that?

In a way though, these faces could be real, infinite possibilities man.

A part of me is in pure denial, like nah someone definitely resembles these faces out there...

I don't like this :(

Looks like acting is going to be a dying trade once they can make these fuckers move.

Idk why a bunch of people are calling this scary. Every person who has ever drawn a face by hand did the same thing this computer did. It was shown tons of pictures of people and was like okay makes sense theres a geometry to this. Copy paste nose here, eyes here, etc. Put on the shading and colouring and done.

Why does this make me feel weird??

So what we are looking at is corporate sanctioned DeepFakes? I doubt those who wield power in the U.S. Government will bat an eye until their face ends up saying something so damning it would ruin their political careers.

We were going to end up here sooner or later, it's a matter of who at NVIDIA will make the right ones and pump the brakes on this one. And work with (not lobby...) Legislators to create reasonable regulations, before those the more extreme ones make their own version. It is a zero-sum game. Later businesses who could use this, and consumers will lose out on possible innovations and legitimate wealth creation.

NIVIDIA

So are these 100% artificial or are they almagamations of existing photos blended together? The title doesn't specify.

this proves that Uncanny Valleys were a necessary evil. the implications of this are far scarier than any weird-looking robot out there

I feel like this should bother me but it doesn't. Maybe I don't get it?

TFW you see your face on there and you start to question if you’re in a simulation..

What do you mean by “none of them are real”?

Am I the only one that doesn’t think this is super super scary/creepy/unnerving?

This type of technology is setting a dangerous precedent

That one girl looks like if Deborah Messing and Catherine Zeta jones had a baby

I sense a new meme format.

What are the chances of it randomly creating the face of someone who exists?

NIVIDIA

I feel threatened, can’t explain why

So... they're basically NPCs??

While this is definitely interesting, it kind of creeps me out for some reason

I know atleast 3 of these people, no seriously though, you know how you want to create a character no one else has when you get a new game, but there is only so many options, I think we have hit that point in humanity.

Bullshit! Dude in the top left is my Cousin Frank. Fucker owes me $28!

I’m glad I’m not the only who got creeped out by this. It makes me feel wrong and I just don’t know why.

Is there any kind of link of a story on this? It’s pretty cool that these are all computer generated, but for what reason?

Neural*
Sorry that was bugging me, it's a neural network not a neuro network.

RTX on I guess

But how can you KNOW these aren't pictures of real people?

Read the technical paper. It's not. The A.I took millions of bio markers and recreated what it imagined to be its version of humans.

Very uncanny.

Creepy

Just more proof that all white people look the same. It’s science.

The only thing I can see slight (very slight) faults in are the eyes.

With around 8 billion ppl on this earth I would probably say at least half of the faces resembles someone on earth. But still cool tho

No completely bald man with big ears and glasses! I'm safe!!

Well, more fuel for the "we're all living in a computer simulation" conspiracy theory.

Next level of having.. Imagine what the character in games actually looks and talk like real people

Fuck off

That’s SUPER creepy

ITS TIME TO S T O P

Source?

so many faces but no asian cuz all of them were taken

Ok dis scary

That's insane

We live in a simulation.

We're so fucked.

Damn this is pretty scary

We are so fucked

It was at this moment... humanity knew it fucked up.

Nice! Now we can make another experimental Earth with computer, put some people in made by nvidia AI and test some crazy shit on them to see their reaction and outcome, endless possibilities. Meat raining, birds catching cats, flying trees....

My mind. Is trying to comprehend that these people aren't real

It's important to note that none of these are made from scratch, the AI uses existing images of faces and inherently integrates those together to make new faces. Still cool AF though

No one can tell if these are not real people since no one person or organisation or country knows what everyone in the world looks like

Press X to doubt

behold. the faces of the people opposed to net neutrality.

They look so real indivisually... but once you see them all together you notice the very unreal symetry

None of them have more than peach fuzz on their face. This is how we will differentiate between us and them when they inevitably come for our lives.

One of the guys has facial hair tho

My god, you’re right. It’s all over boys. We’re done.

Plot twist: all these people are real, they just haven't been born yet and Nvidia's neural network is a predictive program. 😱

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This is our new reality

Hey that’s my ex!

I knew our whole relationship was a simulation.

Am I real?

I mean, I’m pretty sure that with 7 billion people alive we already have most faces covered.

I call BS

Research generative adversial models. Its real.

It is. It took photos and combined them.

Totally freaked out by this.

The cats, though. Can we please talk about the cat pictures.

Those cats pictures creeped me out more than the people, and I love cats!

I guess the hardware r/outside has been running on wasn't that advanced after all.

Do we have a link to this or just this photo? I have hard time believing that none of those aren't real people.

Actually they are real. It's just a mixture of several real photos into a new one. Basically they are taking three different photos, merging them together and calling that artificial intelligence.

No, this is not the case. The faces are not directly created from existing photos. A large number of real photos are used to teach an artificial neural network what real faces look like, and the network learns to create faces that look like real faces (but are not based on any specific people).

Isn’t it said that even our own brains can’t create new faces? Yet this neuro-network can... wow

What a cutie did this generate

Does this count as a waifu?

This is creepy af

Interesting as fuck or scary as fuck?

More like r/creepyasfuck amirite?

The guy in the lower left almost looks like David Dobrik

I initially read ‘one of them is real’... 10 minutes I’d never get back!

So this is how they did it in Judge Dredd

i see meme potential

There are some cuties in there. Let's hook this thing up to a 3d printer!

yeah a couple of them kinda look like my friends

Jesus

Nice troll post!

I'm calling shenanigans.

What really fascinates me is the backgrounds.

They look good but if you look at them too long they get weird. Like how the girl with sunglasses has differently shaped eyebrows and what looks like herpes. Or the brown girl's crooked Tom Cruise smile. Or the colour of the guy with the pink coat.

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Were they generated with a GAN?

I give it 2 years before we can make our own perfect porn models.

How did they get over the "eeriness" of past attempts? I don't know the science, but I heard that faces created before would be "too real" and would make our brains make them look off for some reason.

Wait, I'm one of those pics.

Idk why this kind of makes me want to cry.

Great! What’s next?

The future is going to be wild.

That's why one of them look like my girlfriend

So there's 8 billion variations of faces. Im sure one of them is an exact match to this

This is a meme template. Just swap in the face of someone else in one of the pictures.

Zucc is prime real estate right now.

Pretty cool. Looks like It doesn’t do well with hats tho.

This plus that adobe dialogue engine that allows you to mimic someones voice with only a few thousand words would finally let game writers go nuts.

And every single one has a Facebook page.

It’s amazing what computers can do. At this rate, we’ll be able to finally play Crisis 2 on Max Settings.

So can someone explain where the data comes from or how this works? And am I looking at computer generated people or a splice of like many real images?

That man in the second column in purple has to be Dr. Otto Octavius.

Bottom left looks like a guy I was in the Army with... D:

Sorry, I’m stupid but what’s going on here? Is it cool because a computer generated faces from specific data or something?

Now watch what happens when you can make them talk. This really isn’t good. We are croaching onto some real dangerous territory. We should not create a fabrication that is indistinguishable from reality.

All have perfect teeth. I guess or robot overlords will have a good dental plan

I don't know if I'm okay with this.

Great, now we have to believe none of what we hear and also none of what we see.

World is about to be screwed up and manipulated hardcore.

Proof?

There’s one that looks like my brother and one that looks like my dad/uncle. Creepy.

I don't believe you

I think you mean neural network. Not neuro-network.

Ah faces, the way they're meant to be played

Anyone done reverse image searches on these? We need confirmation, and everyone knows nothing says OC like the good old tineye

So what constitutes as “not real”? Can they have a real face but swap their eyebrows out and BOOM ^not ^real

I'd swipe right on a few of those

Waitaminute, I'm pretty sure that curly haired child in the middle column was in the M.Night Shamylan movie *Split*.

The bottom left one looks like David Dobrik

I don’t believe this pic for one second

They are realer then reality

You lie...

But... how?

Not real yet

Is he wearing a hat?

I don't understand this

You feed a neural network millions of photos from a database (e.g. google search) and it will learn to use this data to create original work - in this case faces.

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Here it is in action: https://youtu.be/p_7GWRup-nQ?t=628

So how does it work?

For some reason, while cool, I find this scary.

If one of them looked like me I think I’d have a mental break down

TIL, I would date someone that isn’t real. I guess kind of like what I’m currently doing.

The big ones don't look quite right.

Bullshit. That guy on the right owes me twenty bucks

A RPG randamizer that works?

Nah one of them is my neighbor idc what anyone says

When can we use this to eliminqte generic videogame enemies forever?

I make up faces as I’m falling asleep all the time. This is no big deal

Fun fact your mind can’t actually make up faces, those are just people you’ve seen through out your day

Nah. Bits and pieces from each. Your facts aren’t that fun.

No this can't be right, one of them is my little brother who passed recently

The future of catfishing is now.

That one about halfway down a few rows over is definitely Bennie from The Mummy

The only issue I see here is that there are not enough legitimately ugly people.

I think the computers algorithms have too many pretty people stored, which makes sense because pretty people take more pictures, tons more images of pretty people online compared to ugly people.

Who's to say there isnt someone out there who looks exactly like one of these pictures? There are billions of us, it's impossible to be certain.

I can't believe you've done this

They don't have the tech to make black faces yet I guess

I call bullshit

You can tell by the eyes.

Everyone usually has one eye more open/closed then the other. There are all perfect eyes.

Really? I thought the eyes were terrible. Almost all of them are pitch black and lack depth and emotion. Maybe that is part of the "perfect eyes" you're seeing?

Perfectly symmetrical

People yet to be born 😯

Doesn't look like anything to me.

Who do these people look like to you?

Who thought this was a good idea, and what the hell is this used for?

Honestly, the only giveaway is when you look at the eyes. It's just as if there's something missing and it makes their gaze look sort of "dead". Hard to describe really.

One day there will be the ultimate catfish.

Pentagon Social media bots

"None of them is real ",cos they already steal your face

I mean, I see them... Doesn't that make them real?

Just wait until the porn industry gets a hold of this tech.

That has already happened in 2017, had its own subreddit, had said subreddit banned, has launched an app and caught international media attention - it's the same thing that was behind "DeepFakes" and is essentially what is behind "FakeApp".

And yeah it is as lame as it sounds - Emma Watson's head on the body of some porn chick etc.

So what is the point of this?

No beards.

So when is Nividia’s neuro-network gonna make designer porn?

Are they all symmetrical?, human faces are asymmetrical.

You either need glasses or more zoom, no idea what you're talking about as those faces are mostly asymmetrical

I was wondering if thats how you can tell the difference between a real face and an ai generated face since human faces are asymmetrical.

I'm certain I must have missed something... What is the point of doing this, exactly? Why does this neuro-network need to learn to do this?

Third column from the right, bottom most complete picture, something looks horribly wrong about the second face that is half cropped out

Alright the one on the bottom right looks exactly like my math teacher from last year what’s going on here?!?!?

Isn’t the one in the bottom middle just Stephen Hillenburg?? RIP by the way

HOLY SHIT

Yeah, so is nvidia marketing.. Also you got the brandname wrong..

Wow, you nvidia fanboys really are hopelessly brainwashed...

now AMD

Now I want to see the failed attempts...

This is a GAN from NVIDIA (possibly the same?) and its capabilities last year

(GAN stands for generative adversial network, essentially the type of neural network responsible for this)

Nvidia*

Imagine how many abominations they had to go through to make this accurate

im pretty sure the dude in the pink wizard coat is Jonah Hill's long lost 45 year old brother...Janis

Not sure if it has been posted yet, but this is the scientific article about it https://arxiv.org/pdf/1812.04948.pdf

Something's off, I can't point my finger on it. Just me?

Yep, just you.

"based on genuine photos"

They call this gen of GPU "Turing" for a reason....

Discrimination against 👨‍🦲 people

So, are all these faces CGI or were they made using photographic assets?

This shit looks more real than me.

I’M NOT REAL, HOLY SHIT!!!

This proves Synths are replacing us. Damn the institute.

But they're all just amalgams of real faces in the end, no? Makes it seem less impressive

Yeah i doubt that, i too can download a bunch of pics from google images and claim they are generated

Neural*

...yet.

Now start training it to generate 3d scenes, then generate animated 3d scenes.

Almost all of them have pitch black eyes

Puren CGI or like a composite of photos?

Dude stop lying to me (joke btw)

Something big is coming.

Does anyone know if they are compiled from other images or if they're totally "made from scratch"?

soon to be shown as evidence in a court near you.

A network for generating adversaries..

Wait, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??????

Are they composites or made from scratch cgi renders?

Ah yes. Nividia loves their european networks.

This is so unbelievably creepy. I look at these faces and think, this person does not exist. The imperfections in their skin not earned, the joy in their smiles digitally counterfeited. This blows my mind for some reason.

Finally. I'm looking forward to some new Randolph Scott movies.

Am I the only one slightly terrified of this?

Awesome so now I can actually dream about people that don't exist

Awesome! I'm terrified!

/r/morehumanthanhuman

cant wait for the porn of people who don't do porn.

This is game over, dog

That's my girlfriend in one of those pics.

Why is Samuel from LOTR in this picture?

Prettt sure they put Jason Bateman’s face over on the right side

I have hemorrhoids.

Bottom left is David Dobrik and Jason Nash mixed together. I’m certain.

Edit: Maybe a tiny bit of Jonah.!

I could have sworn I knew bottom left in high school!

Ajit Pai will love this

They're all more attractive than I am

So should I continue using their lotion?

Bull-shiitake mushrooms 🐮 💩

The sims are inter lapping, this isn’t intersting. This is scary

Meanwhile games NPC still look like rubber heads even in cutscenes ...

We've gone too far...

The future of video games is scary to think about.

The 20-year anniversary release of Animorphs books are gonna have some sweet covers.

I was looking for zucc

The largest woman picture has differently colored eyes, and slightly malformed teeth.

So, you just apply the face cream?

A lot of these people look really brazilian

So this is how the matrix started. I see.

This is terrifying

Wait what? These are computer generated?

Life is a simulation

Nothing is real.

Except Jonah Hill. He's real.

I am officially fucking terrified at this point. Never in my life I thought something like this could be done by technology. Uncanny valley has hit a new low for me. And those deepfakes? Even scarier. I am sorry everybody but I'm speechless.

Make them do it in Paint

That one looks like old lady Todd Howard

fuck... no

Now we need to decide who Jason and Chad are...

Does taking a photo of a real face and then making a slight alteration make the new one not real?

WTF

This is terrifying.

These look like typical people I’d see on the street

https://i.imgur.com/nckAQxk.jpg I don’t think they’ve worked out all the kinks yet.

Use this to populate a VR world with AI/NPCs.

So between this and "deepfakes," you'll basically never be able to trust any image or video ever again. Propaganda made easy.

Does that mean they can 3D print a new face for the terminator?

So are all of these faces created 100% by the AI, or are they altered by it to create a different face than the original.

— I’m asking this because all of these faces have backgrounds to them and idk if our technology is sophisticated enough to fabricate such a realistic scene. I’m just curious

No way... The uncanny valley now is a pain??

I don't like this.

source or bullshit

Good thing this won't be abused.

What?!

Nvidia climbing out the other side of the uncanny valley.

Hey sir, you made a typo in the title. It's not 'NIVIDIA', it's 'NVIDIA'.

As unbelievable as this is, how amazing would it be if just one picture was someone like Ted Cruz. Just for the lols

I don't know what this is

I swear some of these are people I've seen before.

Man... the evidence that we live in a simulation is building dramatically.

I can imagine it will become a new religion if it hasn’t already.

The guy in The pink hoodie kinda looks like a broke jonah hill

Man, even computers don't like black people. /s

Bullshit

This is absolutely terrifying. Think of the political uses for this?

This is scary as fuck

This is freaky

Awesome so now I can actually dream about people that don't exist

the bottom left one looks like a mix between gabe newell and todd howard

This is how stock photos will be done I imagine

I doubt anyone will experience an uncanny valley feeling from this.

Todd tried to hide his true nature from us, but he’s in the bottom left corner

This shit blew my mind

Fucking hell, every second is a second closer to the singularity.

Help, my phones first autocorrect after 'the' was 'singularity'

I think this is terrifying.

Prove you're not a robot by clicking on all the pictures that show a real human.

This is borderline unbelievable, how is this even possible??

I would like to see some examples of imperfect/failed faces that have this level of realism.

If they can do this I’m certain they can do real people, now let’s wait until the tech gets good enough to were they can render people talking and walking. Imagine the super accurate deep fakes they could make that technology is going to be super scary.

The far right third from the bottom is literally me

You’d be da bell of da ball

Ok pack it up boys, we’ve gone through the uncanny valley. There is no going back now, and that is awesome!

But how can someone dumb this down and explain it like I'm a stupid 10 year old kid?

If These Aren't Real Then What If We Aren't Real

Shit they all look like photos fuck when this turning this is going to be hard when it happens

Hmm I wonder if they have used this for news cycles before cough cough

Does anybody else see an aged blonde pam from the office in the center middle.

Anyone else see Kappa on the bottom left?

You don't know that

Thats fucking crazy. Just thinking of what goes on behind the scenes to do that is mind blowing.

They're real in that the model that created them was trained on how to generate realistic faces by looking at an extremely large set of real faces.

Creepy

7billion people in the world and you're telling me nobody looks like these people? Bullshit. Doppelgangers exist.

When the simulation creates a simulation as good as the simulation it’s in. This is like that battery Rick and Morty story.

How the fuck

Where my black people at?

Scary

I’d totally have sex with some of the women in those pictures

Dude, bullshit. I am not convinced these are not real people. God damn this is scary.

I thought this was a joke and Mark Zuckerberg was going to be on it.

Kinda hard to be impressed with such a low-res picture

This makes me extremely uncomfortable

Great...

It is eerie how much the lady third up in the middle looks like me, although her/my right eye looks weird in that pic

I swear I've seen each one of them before, scary

The guy on the upper left looks like my uncle

I feel like this is a sign of something much bigger on the horizon. Right now we're like the past imagining video-phonebooths... we're not totally aware of the social implications this stuff is going have.

Wtf

Let's hear it for the vague blur!

I was just scrolling and looking at these, while the piano start of Kanye’s Runaway was playing. Made it really creepy!

This is so wild

Well this is creepy.

Is it a neuro or neural network?

Wait so these people don’t actually exist? Or is the picture not real? I’m confused:

I see my girlfriend in there....you guys wouldn't know her she goes to a different school

I’m not impressed until it makes someone who looks real not only looks real, but also “ugly”.

What are they talking about? I see Jose Antonio Meade right there, he ran for the Mexican presidency this year.

Is...Is that the kappa guy? (lower left)

Is this a private project or is there some site to test out this network

Fourth column fifth down looks a little off.

The only one that looks off to me is the guy with the orange background

But other than that thanks, I hate it

Guy at the bottom looks like Gabe

i don’t like this very much

Can confirm. I dont remember any of them

This can't be true - is it April Fool's Day or AI Overlord Rules Day ?

I have such a feeling of dread from this. Its so normal, that its not even uncanny valley. Like i fee sick that these arent real people like idk how to describe it

Doesn't look like anything to me.

Beards don't exist in the neural network

The thought of someone falling in love with one of these faces saddens me.

Yes they are

I hate it. Too real

Weird how there isn't east Asians

Fuck you I refuse to believe

Imagine how this could be used for false flags to instill fear-mongering...just wait.

One of the smaller ones has the blues clues red chair back ground. You see the red and pink.

This is great material for Russian troll accounts.

Neural*

These must be superimposed onto other people right?

I mean what's the definition of a real face, if I take a picture of my face and change the hue and add some freckles it's not a real face but not much was done to it. I'm not putting down the effort and I've seen videos on this in the past I'm just curious how much of real input they used vs fabricated

I think the other point is while the features of the face aren't real, the emotions are real which is what I think gives them the reality they possess.

NVIDIA *

I recognize several from tinder

All of this has happened before, and will happen again...

They change details of an existing photo with facial recognition. Every head you see on this collage has a original head (as obvious as it sounds) that looks similar. They even use transitions and this is all technology that existed in the 90s. If the images were entirely synthetic it would need to also create poses, lightning and surroundings. Which it doesn't. You can see it in nvidias video on youtube.

Why

Good bot

Bro I need more than that... nothin is fun with just looks comebacks. Cmon we need creativity

This isn’t a problem until someone is claimed to have been killed but they didn’t exist. AI-generated crime scenes could stoke public fervor and ire, causing massive repercussions.

Don’t have a “bad hombre” and victim to blame? Well let me cook one of each up real quick, and done; I can now piss of a bunch of ignorant people with guns or pitchforks.

This will be even more devastating in countries that are ignorant of this technology

does this mean we have no need for stockphoto models anymore?

I really really don't like this

I don't believe you.

It- It's learning.

Hello 1984

Yeah but.. how??

Holy fucking shit this is both amazing and downright terrifying.

Let the catfishing begin!

man, future porn is gonna be so LIT!

Um okay unplug it now

I want to say that I see it. The faces just seem off. But then I’m worried someone will drop the bomb that they are real faces and I’m losing my mind. Then I don’t unsee it.

Thanks. I hate it.

So they have issues making black and Asian people up?

No. Just stop it NIVIDIA

Is it just me or they all kind of have the same rounded face and their cheekbones are all in the same place

Yep, humans are fucked.

I was wondering about having something like this for filmmaking- instead of blurring bystanders, you can composite generated features.

Apply this to WETA's Massive, and you have thousands of completely unique crowds.

WTF!!

Yoooooo what the fuck

I like all these people. They look friendly.

This is the face of all my reddit friends.

Except the guy with two broken arms, he's not on here.

The kid 2nd from left 3rd down looks uncanny, i think it is the hair.

Lowkey freaked out by this

Goodbye reality. Nice knowing ya.

Photos from the multiverse

I kind of don't believe you just because of how strange the concept is of these faces not being real

Replicants?

Holy fuckoli

Anyone wanna ELI5 how this works? If that's even possible?

They take a photo of a person. Analyse each part of a face and can morph it around.

The easiest example would be yellow teeth going whiter with a slider.

This is all technology that existed in the 90s. Just much more sophisticated.

Oh okay. So it's real people with basically photoshopped faces.

Can we do something similar for modulating voices? It would help with the oblivion problem

Noooot exactly true. The parts of these faces are real. The way neural networks work, it just learns what things look like from existing sources.

So in a way, they do exist...these are just really good Frankenstein monsters cobbled together from their existing digital body parts.

Not even that. They are just modified photos.

This is scary as fuck. I could see corrupted news networks and/or governments using something like this to influence the public.

Make a horrific event happen, use one of these generated faces, say “This is the bad guy that did this terrible thing, and all people that are like him are the bad guys.”

I mean, shit they could be doing that now, how the hell would we know? Scary shit...

I don't like this.

Pink hoodie dude looks like he’s got a Jonah hill mix going on.

Huh?

I refuse to believe this, it is truly amazing what computers can do

They also tried their hands/processors at cats, but the results were a little more uncanny valley: https://futurism.com/incredibly-realistic-faces-generated-neural-network/

Little bit too shiny in some places but otherwise indistinguishable

Well, humans had a good run, all hail our robit overlords.

We're all fucked

Tell it to create babes

RTX ON

Looks like real faces to me

I was at their office in Santa Clara recently where they have an EBC to show off their tech. They talked about how they use these generated faces/people to be in their marketing material so they don’t have to pay for models or stock photos. Pretty genius really...

Man final fantasy 7 wasn't even that long ago...

I feel like there must be real people somewhere in the world who look exactly like each of these.

That is almost correct. Because they are modified photos.

Really? I've seen neural networks doing faces and nothing I've seen have ever come anywhere near this close. I'm dubious.

Because they are modified photos. This technology is from the 90s.

That seems more likely that a network literally making them.

Does this mean a scramble suit is on its way?

I guess NVIDIA just doesn't recognize Asians?

The only thing that doesn’t look normal is the slightly unnatural fringe on the guy in the bottom-left

OK THAT'S SCARY AF

These are also from NIVIDIA's neuro-network. This was 2017 however, and you can see the improvement over just one year.

You’re not real!

Cool

What really weirds me out is that they all have different contexts; different backgrounds, lighting, environments. It’s not just a collection of faces, it’s a collection of lives.

Because it's modified photos.

I want to see the failures that led up to this.

WHAT THE FUCK synths confirmed

is there any significance in the way they are arranged (sortof recursive mosaic?)

Mmm idk, that dude on the orange background looks a bit dodgy

Wow, the next Sims is gonna be intense.

Plot twist: we are already living in it.

Well, I'm never getting into a pool again.

It's freaky to me that I get a sense of familiarity from the 3 faces on the left

My brain is having a hard time processing this

What does it mean that Im disappointed I don't see anyone who looks like me?

BTW, I've always been told by strangers and friends how much I look like (cousins, friends, entertainers. Insert your answer here. Even in New Zealand, without even speaking, people knew I was an American.

These are all pretty generic faces and I am sure people just like them are walking around right now.

These are modified photos of real people. People with very similar faces DO walk around right now.

Yup, fuck that. Fuck all of that.

That doesn't look like anything to me.

The end is nigh, heralded by the beast with many faces and a thousand maws.

All hail our robot overlords

Ofc they aren't real none of these look even slightly unhappy.

I’m sure I know some of this guys 🤨

This is scary AF.

Let the synth production begin!

Incredible.

Shit.

Those are the droids i was looking for

Great. Something else to be terrified of

That movie "S1m0ne" was on to something.

Enter Quantum Leaps era.

They could’ve at least made the people attractive

Jebus, there was exactly TWO, out of ALL of those, that I thought "yeah, okay, that one isn't a real person", the rest I 100% buy (and even those two I wouldn't have been surprised to learn were, in fact, real people).

Simultaneously cool and scary as hell.

Can someone explain this to me like I’m five

It’s times like this that I hate living in the future.

Everyone looks so brazilian.

There’s a baby near the bottom right corner that looks unsettlingly like my son.

These faces all do look very real, but as a whole set, they're much more symmetrical than real human faces would be, I think.

Great, now we can literally never believe anything on video ever again, no matter who it incriminates. Question everything.

This is in a way more creepy than Google DeepDream.

That dude on the orange background needs to be the official mascot of this tech.

I don't like this

A.I will be our downfall, or our upbringing.

That’s sooo Jonah Hill wearing the hot pink coat

To be completely honest, this REALLY freaks me out.

Oh hell no...

Neural networks have made when they can make nudes and post them on reddit and then make reddit users think these are real amateurs.

What do the failures look like?

I wonder if it can create a face we like. I mean it generates some faces, we say yes or no, and using that data it creates most ideal face we like.

Anyone notice how the pictures are laid out like a Fibonacci spiral?

These will be my profile pictures now

But is this randomly generated images or like a mix of real people’s faces?

Interesting? Yes. Frightening? Also yes!

We're already dead.

AI was pretty good at making average looking people

Creepy

“NIVIDIA”

guys.... come on.... it’s NVIDIA.... there isn’t an “I” before the “V”

Nope.

Neural Network

Terrifying. Now wait till you see the failed test cases.

Where’s gla1ve

Mod Mark in the pink

We live in a simulation for sure.

some of the hats/clothes are really weird looking...

I don't like that.

i’d like it to make one that looks like me but doesn’t work for facial recognition

The one in the pink looks like a combination John Mayer and Adam Sandler

If you're looking for mistakes I found one:

If you look at the bottom right, there's a young girls face. The head to her left that is clipped is oddly warped.

also the guy in the pink coat is looking kinda weird around his neck. bit imo it's very impressive overall

That’s.... Horrifying

Didn't make a single black person 😍😍 nvidia is based

Omg when characters in games are created by neural networks

Well im scared

At least three of these people are me.

Deepfakes ;)

The machines are gonna fuck us so hard so soon

Proof please ?

https://futurism.com/incredibly-realistic-faces-generated-neural-network

*Nvidia

One step closer to a simulation running a simulation, we are a simulation people wake up!

Prove that they aren't real and they're not just random photos of people.

Not one person with pimples or acne scar. This is unrealistic expectations

Not real...yet real.

Eh, eyes are a bit off, hence why it uses dark eye color mostly.

Oh hell no. Fuck this.

Im sure all of them have a doppelganger somewhere

This is beyond scary! This means they can create victims of a “tragedy” and people would believe it. Kids grandmothers etc........ were fucked...

Sorry black people.

Usually when I see a bunch of passing faces on the street, I feel the mindfuck that they all have a story and a life of their own. In this case the mindfuck is that there isn’t one, there never was.

Can't they make more attractive people?

Something in their pupils is...empty looking. Wrong.

Chances are they're extremely close to real though.

I don't like this.

Go on...

shudders in Luddite

wow

What is the point of it?

So, this seems pretty creepy and unnerving for some reason, however I don't know why...

This was a concept that was explored in Person of Interest, where and AI created an identity for itself, pretty crazy that its a real thing now... :0

we've gone too far

They all look like someone from a stock photo

Way of the future.. way of the future.. way of the future.. WAY of the future.. way of the FUture.. way of the future..

Very scary stuff

Wonder if they bought people's profile pictures from Mark zuccerburg as training data. 00PM

Correction, they are not real yet*

i think this may beg a philosophical question of what is 'real'.

Creepy. That’s some MiniTruth shit right there. Cool though

This is disturbing

Are they not real cuz most of them are smiling?

Prayers for the victims

ok I’m spooked

These arent real people ??

Some of these gotta be real, just too damn realistic.

Bottom middle looks like he’s destroyed a few hard drives in his time.

That looks like my dad

This creeps me out so much but I have no real reason why.

Please don't tell me this is real. Please! This is giving me a sinister feeling.

Can someone ELI5 on how this works?

Made it past uncanny valley. Wow. Scary stuff.

Whaddya mean these aren't real?

ARE YOU SURE?!

I'd also be interested in seeing some faces that the model things it did a bad job on. Wanna see how fucked up they look

In the wise words of the best kpop group of all time 4minute. C R A Z Y...

Now we need to find the matches to these created faces

We are in a simulator confirmed!

I dont believe that in the many billions alive now and the billions that have since died do not look like any of these people.

My first thought when I see this type of technology, is that it will result in a future where we are all physically represented by an avatar of our own design—an idea that has been a little played out at this point in movies and TV but it always intrigues me when it’s brought to my mind. How would the human experience change with the introduction of that kind of tech on a grand scale? Anybody who has ever felt insecurity about a physical aspect of their body would agree that a world like that sounds so appealing—but on the other hand, there are valuable lessons in the process of learning to accept those imperfections about ourselves, and learning to take strength in our vulnerabilities. Watching technology literally change how your species lives will be a very interesting part about growing old I think.

Wait for sometime. As our population reaches 9 billion, someone is bound to look like this.

What if you saw this and saw your own face and knew it wasn’t a photo of you 😳

I like how all of them are convincingly average looking (relative to their ages)

I know one of those people. Weird.

Magazine models are freaking out atm.

Something feel unnatural about some of these faces but still amazing work from Nvidia just scary to think in 10 years time this could be done at a consumer level

We're so fucked.

Can we, as a species, fucking not?

"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should."

No way

Karma fish?

Wait so none of those people are real people?

I'm having a hard time believing this.

This is indeed scary. How do I know if anyone is real after all?

Does this not make anyone else feel as though there is no doubt we are living in a simulation?

As someone that regularly creates new faces as a part of my career, I absolutely love this. As a real legitimate human, I hate it

Maybe it's because the title says that they're not real or it's because they're not human-looking enough to not trigger that Uncanny Valley feeling but just by looking at them, I'm hella creeped out.

I can't wrap my head around this.

I see my face wtf are you talking about

wtf?

It’s weird to actually see some faces that look like each other, but at the same time I’m thinking that they are not family related.

This means we can make fun of them without restraint or guilt! Let's get 'em guys!

Hey red shirt, your forehead looks like it’s plotting the eventual takeover of the rest of your face.

Hey stubbly lipstick guy, you aren't fooling anyone with that pink Jacket.

Hey look at that ginger kid... I-- I can't, she's just too cute.

Why the red hats

The eyes have it

Imagine using this to generate random NPCs in a game...

How do you now that none of them are real?

Identity theft is not a joke, Jim!

Nvidia: Become Human

Not creepy at all. Excited by this, vr, gaming, film potential is endless. Using webcam to act out all your scenes have it projected back. The black mirror fear reminds me of terminator, I just dont think it will go that way.

I'd love to see some failed attempts.

No no no no, you lie. Fuck you, you lie. No... No, no. NO! thinks to self: "were so doomed"

  • what I actually said OUT LOUD when I saw this.

hold up wtf

That may be true but I still don't believe it.

One of these people looks like a picture of Bill Gates.

Just imagine porn in 100 years

Skynet

Future lotto winners right here.

I feel sad for some reason

weird shirts and hats here

It freaks me out that I get no uncanny valley sense from these.

That’s not taking into account the legal issues in personal image. If you can create realistic facsimiles of anyone . How can you trust anything you see on screen?

Really bummed out that that girl on the top left isn't real.

So now they don't have to hire crisis actors any more /s

Excuse me? We can do what now?

That’s... horrifying.

Holy shit. Can someone explain how this will change gaming in the near future? Cutscenes of course are about to get better but what are the chances of having one of these as our character?

Ok I'm scared.

I bet they resemble very closely to real people

I can see the zuccs face anywhere

Must have been made by a different company

I’m willing to bet it made someone’s face b

Oh shit.

I no longer trust CCTV

... I feel really uncomfortable now.

Yes but why are they getting smaller. Did they gave this computer the ability to create life but only at half the resolution each time? Cruel!

Whaaaat the fuckkkk

There is no way this is true, right?

Can't wait for Chinese to blackmail me with videos and pictures of me doing terrible things in the next few years.

No fucking thank you.

Skinwalkers will be much worse.

Games are going to get crazy in the future.

Dad?

Neural* network

AI will replace us.

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

Why does this make me feel sad? It’s as if I am looking at people that passed away, but they never even existed in the first place.

Imagine seeing one of these people at a coffee shop...

Nobody asked for this

I don't know why but this freaked me out a little

I don’t like this game anymore.

This is scary!

That's impressive and all, but what kind of hat is that

No one will know the difference....as long as they don't move.

I'd be more impressed if they came up with a generated person that could blink, talk, and laugh realistically.

I'm out. I'm done with this shit.

Hi out, I'm dad!

/r/doyoulooklikeme

Yeah, I really doubt this, modern games that have faces that were designed by a human, not a machine to look realistic don't look nearly as realistic as this so I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on that

Because the neuro-link takes pictures of existing people, a lot of them, then fuse them. It doesn't make them from 0.

Ooooh right that makes sense

Im afraid rick

Soon we'll no longer need crisis actors!

https://imgur.com/5djKqWp.gifv

That’s unsettling

Imagine seeing your face in this

Uhh...looks like it still needs work on those half faces

Prove it

Can someone link me some science on this?

Long $NVDA

Black Mirror

They are either in perfect focus compared to the back ground or they are on a plain back ground. But the faces are spot on

More like scary as fuck I find this so disturbing and i don’t know why.

Triggered

This legit creeped me out

2049 doesn’t seem so far away now

With 7 billion people on the planet, there has to be someone that has one of these faces right?

I prefer last year's NVIDIA neuro-network generated faces.... more.... abstract https://futurism.com/these-people-never-existed-they-were-made-by-an-ai

Looking into this a tiny bit, it seems to be less impressive than it looks here. I mean this title was kind of vague, I had no idea what to think. I was like "So... these were made from scratch? How is that at all possible?" It looks like the AI or whatever just combined traits from photos of different people to create these.

I don’t believe you

Hmm, I like this new drake meme template

Does anyone else notice how dead the eyes look? Flat almost.

Naw scary as Shit

I'm not a fan of this.

Is this built from right to left? The smaller faces being combined to create the larger faces, but still show similar features from the smaller ones.

bullshit

It doesn't look like anything to me.

They're real too me

I refuse

Sees self there - I knew it!

No, that’s creepy and weird as fuck.

The future could get bad or good hard to tell at this point

I'm inclined to call BS. There is FAR too much detail in these images for them to be CGI

No, it's just that you and everyone else are just use to the normal movie CGI, they have a budget to maintain for the entire film.

However, the purpose of these were to be as detailed and realistic as possible coming from a company that's basically dedicated to graphics and improving upon them.

Thus they aren't under the same restrictions as normal CGI.

And even then it isn't even CGI, it's made from a shit ton of pictures stitched together.

As an African American, I can say this makes me very uneasy. When the AI starts calculating relative human value based on quantity of inputs, looks like I'm fucked. How else should I interpret this?

The dude at the bottom with the purple cape is fucked. His cape looks like the A.I. drew it in MS Paint.

I feel like somewhere someone is freaking out from seeing their face on there.

Can anyone tell me what the chances are of one of these faces being closely recognizable to a real humans face?

Pam?

I literally do not believe you and I want proof.

they definetly exists somewhere

This is terrifying yet cool.

I can tell in the eyes. They all look off.

The modeling business and stock photos are going to disappear in a few years

I don't understand

u/alakazam4707

Great. Don’t really care about the rest of the perverted stuff discussed here in this post but I’m re-playing resident evil 4 and I hate it when all the not-zombies look the bloody same. Maybe this will help with that?

the 8th kid in the right smallest picture is like a kid bill gates haha

OH

Bottom left is Todd howard

The 5th one in the second column looks like the middle aged woman edition of Todd Howard

There's still quite a bit of bit of Uncanny Valley, but it certainly begs the question "if I didn't know it was a simulation, would i even question its authenticity?"

Why do they look vaguely familiar...

this makes me really uncomfortable for some reason

3rd column, 8th picture down. What is that purpleish-silver hat?

Hey my ex girlfriend is on here

Holy shit this is fucking creepy

How long till it can make black people? 🤔

Were fucked..

Maybe it’s the devil’s lettuce, but this is giving me an existential crisis.

Hey ! Stop showing my ex girlfriends photos !

No way. I swear that white dude is my friend's brother.

I wonder what the rejected faces looked like, though. I'm sure they don't all come through perfectly.

Ngl, I'd use this to make porn,

You know... to end sex trafficking and all...

Nvidia why

There could be anyone

Welcome to the machine

There is something just a hair off about them. Like deep down I can still feel that they aren’t real.

Hey! There’s me!

We’re fucked

Thanks, I hate it.

I mean it's possible to have someone's face on here.

ok but how many REALLY SHITTY ones did it make?

I hope this turns out like that bleeding edge Russian robot, lol.

Not real? That’s crazy. What else is real? How are they so realistic ?

Just remember: it can be real if it has perfect teeth

Imagine an AI personality like Google Home attaching to one of these and thinking your actually have a relationship online and never know the person doesn't exist!

Does no one else see this Jonah Hill face?

There’s probably someone somewhere that matches these

I saw this as the drake meme for some reason and wondered why the format was so weird

I find this hard to believe. They look like real people to me.

Now if it can just realistically animate them we'll be in a new age of media.

I thought the top middle indian woman was kelly from the office

Incredible.

Crisis actors, amirite?

NIVIDIA?

Wow

Their eyes are dead

There's no way these are rendered. That woman on the middle left. They got the shade of her teeth correct...

Will this tech be implemented into video games?

I don’t know why but This sickens me

Yes but they don’t show you the bad ones

Too many smiles, outside America that’s not the default picture expression

That’s not an old Jonah hill in a pink hoodie??? Fuck me

cries in 3d modeler

That’s not good.

Actors are screwed.

Doubt

Imagine everyone in the comments (including myself) who get a terrible feeling from this are reincarnates from a previous timeline that was destroyed by a robot apocalypse

So this makes me think. Even if these images are not actually of people, I can almost promise there are people that look exactly like this somewhere.

genetics are weird that way. they try to encompass as much space as possible within their context (genes and different looking people for instance). Nature is like that all the time. Look at all the types of planets that exist that are almost identical, but different enough to be unique.

The universe is so amazing how it tries to fill every possible bit of information as it can, mutating until there aren't very many mutations left to be had!

asol im kinda drunk

Who are those people, can they be my friends

These are actual faces of human beings. I'm missing something.

I don’t like this.

Build a pornstar TM

Old washed up skrillex bottom left

I don’t like where this is going

That's not going to end well.

Yeah I don't buy it

Does this weird anyone else out? I can't explain why.

Oh fuck, the matrix is real.

I'm impressed by the variations in lighting. Spot on.

PS5 graphics confirmed

imagine if one of these matched your face. id be freaking out if i was real or not

Uhhh what the fuck

Big if true

Interest in Gas fuck

What makes it even more believable is the backgrounds and clothing. They appear to be so natural! "It just works" ;-)

This freaks me the FUCK out

Fuck Nvidia

Far right side in the middle with the red background looks exactly like michael from arrested development...

Do you mean enivida's nura-laneterk?

Thanks, now when I dream there's a whole new Guess Who? roster for my brain to play with!

And this is why no one should have pictures of their face all over social media.

Those aren't the best faces,by any means.

There is perfection in imperfection.

Uh oh...

I don't believe it.

MGS2 now more than ever

Thanks, I don't like it

Why does the stock keep dropping?

So uh, Hollywood, you might want to look at this

Yep this is it, papa Ted was right.

They feel like background characters in your dream

What the fuck

I don't want to be alive anymore.

...Are you sure? That's insane.

those are not real!!! Then dang those are good wax figures.. who made them?

No way. I've seen these photos before. Haven't I!

Crosspost this over at /r/BlackMagicFuckery

I want to work at nvidia. That would be cool

These were made with something called a generative adversarial neural network or a GAN.

Essentially, one neural network was tasked with taking in a random input and its result was fed to another neural network that was tasked with determining if a face was real or not. The second network is then trained to better tell if a face is real and the first is trained to create faces that trick the second.

The trick is that 50 percent of the time a real face is fed to the second neural network so it gets trained well to decide if a face is real.

Is this cgi? What is this?

Uncanny valley anyone?

Who says they are not real?

​

Never forget.

RIP.

8th one down in the second to last column looks like bill gates

Well, so much for the uncanny valley....

What was the audio software from some large and popular company I heard about recently where you could feed it a small amount of speaking samples and from that it could pretty much extrapolate the entire language. I want to say it was Adobe? I think it was an NPR piece maybe radiolab

This is frightening

They're real because we are watching them /s

They're using this same type of tech in movies on actors/actress and it is not getting a good response

Doubtful.

Actually amazing

Why isNvidia's neural network making faces?

My guess is that for crowds in games, populating interesting and truly random faces would be incredible for immersion.

Heck, it could even be fun in the character concept stages to get a sleep of random faces that are already modeled for in-game? (If I'm understanding correctly).

NVIDIA isn't just a game/GPU company.

They're making moves to be at the forefront of AI. They're building out top of the line neuromorphic chip sets, they're working with Volkswagon to solve level 5 self driving in cars, they're making huge strides in computer vision... they're pretty serious about this field.

Sweet. I found this too. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/self-driving-cars/partners/tesla/

News to me. I really do hope we see some real progress in AI.

Exponential advances in technology and medicine are postulated to come soon after.

From my tour of NVIDIA: the network is trained on photos of real people. It's especially apparent when they showcased the "traditionally attractive" face set. That one was trained on celebrity faces and it's pretty easy to pick out which features were pulled from who.

Creepy

They should try recreate historic faces!

I think they just use algorithms to make random faces. I'm not sure what correlation there is with being able to guess what very specific people looked like?

But yeah, that would be cool.

Hmmm. They don't do the black flavour yet

Not enough conversation here about the cats, cars or even backgrounds. How do these "styles" work?

Nope. NOPE noooooope. Thats enough internet for the day thankyou

You see, the thing is, if doppelganger's exist, then chances are all of these faces match up to a real human...

Nope. I can't handle this. I'm out.

Holy shit. Some of them have a weird aspect, but most (especially the big pics) look super real.

Who knows, these ppl are probably out there somewhere..

Is it weird that part of me sort of feels bad for these people who don't exist for not existing?

Cool. I hate it.

Fuck you

How can this be verified?

They've given lots of talks about it. They had a big keynote last CES where they talked about it.

This is cool but I want a future when we can start casting androids in movies.

I love technology and the constant march of progress but, fuck this

There's got to be people out there that look similar maybe identical to these made up faces.

Grandmas got a gnarly scar 3rd column 6th from the top. What the crap statistics give you hardcore grandma?

"We didn't do this , AI did this"

Cut to 2025:

“All of the faces here are people who think they’re real. You are one of them.”

Q

yet

More like r/creepyasfuck

Are these composites of textures from real people though? Amazingly real anyhoo

As we continually progress in technology it's going to become more and more easier to convince yourself that we are indeed living in a simulation. In 1000 years, think of where this technology is going to be. It's very possible that it's going to be capable of simulating a reality indistinguishable from our own. And as we realize the increasing possibility of simulating reality, the chances increase that we are already in one.

These nerds are up to some creepy ass shit.

How many 3D Printers I gotta connect to print me out the hot chick?

I refuse to believe it

Games are about to get a whole lot more detailed. I'm just waiting for the point where npc's have near human level AI and believe their world is real. We will technically be gods at that point.

I am out of the loop, what is NVIDIA? And what is this?

NVIDIA is basically the biggest graphics card company out there & this is an AI that they created which can imagine new faces.

Looks like the kind of America I want to live in. All races and ...wait, did you say none of them are real. FUCK THEM ALL!!!

That guy in the pink coat does not look right. The woman in the pink on the far left has a weird sleave/sleaveless top. It's definitely not perfect at this time.

If I'm not mistaken/i couldn't be bothered to google it, these are generated via AI doing a deep scan of real photographs and generating new ones.

http://imgur.com/3MyAPZu

Some people try and slide a dick shot in a picture they post. I feel the AI has learned this behavior.

Does it mean I can insult them in any way I want?

So can FIFA use this for pics for the youth players??

What I find interesting AF is that no one in this picture has bad teeth.

Perhaps because most folks with bad teeth don't show their teeth as often, especially in pictures. This reduces the amount of pictures that show people with bad teeth, thereby causing the software to statistically eliminate those that do.

That's so weird...does anyone know what the actual purpose of this is?

Naw, this is just how people's faces are made.

What is nividia

time to make some ghost voters

I'm waiting for when technology will be able to quickly and reliably generate photorealistic videos of politicians.

We'll get all these videos on YouTube like "Donald Trump declares war on Australia" and we won't even know if it's real.

And there'll be a shit ton of sinister applications - just think about the consequences for the military if opposing states have the capability to create perfect duplicates of a commanding officer's voice or appearance.

Anyone else expecting there to be some face you know hiding in there?

They're is something weird about the eyes in every picture. It's like they have no soul.

Nuh uhh I know that one guy

What really blows my mind is the fact that these specific random faces I see truly don't have any sort of background... it made me realize no matter what face I have seen in the past a small part of my consciousness made up some sort of characteristic or implication all on its own.. like maybe this random anti-vaxxer lady has 2 kids and they're both sickly looking, or this random guy who was accused of racism has had a bad upbringing, etc... but these people right here do not have any of that.

My brain can't handle that.

this is terrifying

That guy in the hat at the top looks like a real jackass. I'm glad he's not real

I want proof and the workflow

Also, none of them are hot

Are these made from scratch or "created" by just morphing together multiple images of different faces?

So you’re telling me, I just fell in love with a ghost?

ELI5 how this is possible?

I think this is a bit misleading. I glossed over the document and it appears all they have done is make one kick ass face merger. I believe their function requires two inputs. It doesn't just make a face up at random. I could be wrong. But ... yeah

Don’t tell Trump’s butt boy Jacob Wohl. He could’ve used this instead of stealing actors’ headshots.

Now that is impressive. I thought that the cutting edge for face simulators was the blurry deep thought faces you get on things like HyperGan.

Do you have a source I can use to track this deeper?

Guy, corner of the bottom left. That’s Jim Halpert and no one can convince me otherwise

Hahahahaha this is both cool and scary as fuck!

this creeps me out

Bottom, second to the right guy is definitely Doc Oc from the new spiderman

All of their noses are the same.

Nah dude I don't buy it, that's my uncle Joey on bottom left, he brings a bunch of Jack Daniel's whiskey over this time a year. I love him

I suspect there’s more to the story than what we’re seeing here.

???

This is extremely creepy to me for some reason.

r/writingprompts

my mind is legit blown, this is incredible

There's a picture of America's first female president.

That is kinda scary, not even the human mind can makeup faces in dreams. Every single person in a dream you have seen at some point in time.

this is how they create terrorist for false flag attack ?

FUCK.

They get everything right except the hats..

there is a hint of Pam Beasley in the middle row 4th picture down.

Middle column*

And it happened to create a background that fits perfectly into the portrait as well?

❌ Doubt

Wow these DNA test results are getting wild

Is so nervous about this that he hopes some just posts r/quityourbullshit

Can someone explain this to me? Thanks.

Ohhh fuck, we're in a bad spot.

As someone with prosopagnosia this is... particularly confusing.

My mind is unable to picture a "real" face, so I have no frame of reference. Do they look extra realistic to everyone?

This makes me uncomfortableeeee

The only thing bugging me is every face has that dimple type thing around the cheeks and nose area.

Oddly scary

Why are people finding this so mind blowing? It's just fed a million pictures and spits out some mashups. Watch out.

r/disconcertingasfuck

I just have one word - Dopelgangers!

It’s like children that could have been.

Wow

I don't believe you.

byw its NVIDIA, not NIVIDIA

I am quite upset that they are all so effing happy

Please be bs, this is creepy

Source?

Big woah

Goodbye uncanny valley.

You've Never Seen Yourself. IT IS WHAT YOUR BRAIN THINKS YOU LOOK LIKE. Not even when looking at a mirror...

This is just like the Russian Robot

And not a single Chinese.....

Jonah Hill?

It’s creepy that they don’t have lives. These are people who never had family’s, never were happy, never were hurt.

Hol up...

Now faces can be given to an armada of social media bots.

For everyone who is getting afraid of how far technology has come - always remember that computers have the same rule as gremlins, they can’t get wet.

The age of not trusting anything said on video is upon us.

Network couldn't come up with a blackface?

I was actually arguing with a friend just now: I feel like what the AI is doing is cutting out thousands of "eye", "nose" "skin texture" components from existing photos and mixing and matching them. it's really impressive, but I feel like it's less impressive than if it was 100% CGI. Anybody who understands this a bit more can clue me in?

Can we use this for videogames?

NVIDIA is the institute.

Is this legit ?

Why are they not real??

Can someone explain this to me? So these images are just created by a computer?

So it begins.

We are a step further away from the reality.

Is anyone else concerded with the potential of this technology in combination with deep fakes? A whole new way to spead false information without a chance of being identified.

Is there a point where we boycot this technology? Are we taking things a little too far and spending so much time, effort, and money on things that are made for entertainment?

Maybe im just thinking about it too much. But im really not sure what good they are trying to acomplish with this.

I mean, statistically, at least one of those is real...

They also did this thing where they made the most beautiful person ever. You can see the most beautiful person by looking in the mirror

Wdym? Bottom left is David dobrik in 30 years

And not a single redhead - racist bot

My instincts are to be kind of terrified by this kind of tech.

This is going to be a great horror movie.

I'm I real?

Are we sure thats not Simon Cowell in the middle of the far right column?

I don't like it. I always thought our ability to not be able to make up faces was kind of interesting and that our dreams are populated by people we've met at some point was cool. The fact I know these faces are completely made up but look like real people totally unsettles me.

They look real to me.

Further #skynet developments....

Aliens , all Aliens !

Someone ELI5 how this works pls

Thanks i hate it.

We live in a simulation.

NIVIDIA confused the fuck outa me until i read the caption

You ever seen the videos of the faces transforming into other faces with this method? Where it looks like the face and the head change very independently. I feel like this still has some odd issue with the outline of the "face" and the "face" frame feels oddly flat and aligned directly at the camera in some slightly unnatural way, disconnected from the rest of the head, or slightly off from it.

Then again, I've seen videos from cameras that are surprisingly pinpoint accurate at pointing absolutely directly at someone's nose while their head is in motion. That can be kind of nauseating sometimes, at least up really close.

/Rambling over.

I am still quite upset that they are all so effing happy.

Can it play Crysis, though?!

There is something wrong about the eyes. The eyes never lie. It's creepy as hell

Terrifying

The 'hats' are a bit strange though

So this is the electorate of Hillary.

Computers are having babies, that's wild.

Why no black brothers? Is AI freakin' racist snow?

Tired of all this AI make up. Most probable that AI does not create it just mixes up analyzed photos so resulting photo portrait like real one, while Nvidia engineers show only successful results. Bingo!

Still it cool thing now that cgi actors will be cheaper and more customizable than real ones. Welcome to matrix!!!

Wait. What? Can someone explain because I just simply don’t understand whatsoever.

Same here, is it just compositing the actual faces into mixed ones?

How did you spell the name wrong man it is at the bottom left

The pink guy to the right of the bottom left. 😂

Bullshit

Bottom left but one looks like Steven Avery's old lawyer- Jerry Buting

More like unsettling as fuck

How not real are they? Did it just take a picture and edit it? Or did it edit a bunch of different ones together? Or did it start from scratch and draw one? If it did draw one where did it get the parameters from?

The fuck with their clothes?!

THE MATRIX IS EVERYWHERE...

Hyper realistic faces. Real or not doesn't matter to me. What makes this the most u settling to me is that if it were real, it didn't just create hyper realistic faces, it created a unique and hyper realistic background to truly sell the point and make them appear as just pictures of people than pure code.

lol bullshit. what proof do you have that none of these faces exist?

We're at the end game now..

Conspiracy: Mark Zuckerberg used this AI to generate a face for his robot body.

Can I get one of those made because i'm a writer and use a female pseudonym and would like an 'author picture'.

r/machinelearning had a post a little while ago to test your ability to identify fakes. In one of the stages they block out the eyes making it waaaay harder to tell the difference.

Edit: found it. https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/a34ner/p_can_you_tell_if_these_faces_are_real_or/?st=JPQK0AVJ&sh=e8e54488

My friends on facebook

The girl at the top of the second column looks eerily like Indigenous Australian artist Jessica Mauboy .

this is some scanner darkly shit right here

Well

That’s my cousin!!!

r/creepy

For some reason I find this disturbing

in a few years we won't know if the actors/presenters we're watching are real or not

Probably someone out there that looks just like one of these folks having a crisis right now about their own existence.

There are no way that you can be sure these are not real. Yes they can be synthesized or rendered but some of them might resemble real people with indistinguishable accuracy. It is just results from a feed of images.

looks through pictures

sees a picture of himself

questions reality

The eyes all look the same. And no I don't mean the color or the shape. They all have the same look to them.

It has bill gates in it!

Imagine falling in love with one of these lol

This is terrifying

Alot of them look dead

thats scary! tho i would like to see the faces that didnt get into this publication.... i bet not all looked this good

Could anyone explain? Is the whole image computer generated? Is anything in the picture real? How does this work? Articls aren’t very clear.

What's up with theone black person?

Even A.I finds them annoying

I would guess they are amalgamations, doesn’t mean they aren’t real.

Ugly for effect ?

Are these faces created from scratch or modifications of real faces?

10/10 would bang em all.

This reminds me about the people that i dont know in real life but saw in my dreams.

This makes me extremely uncomfortable for some reason. Seeing all these faces you’re convinced are real, as they all are quite plain looking, and then finding out none of them exist.

It feels like the opposite of seeing an old picture where you know everyone is dead

Now scammers can create real looking people. Yay. s/

Spotted Shooter Williamson in column three, five faces from the bottom

This kinda creeps me out

That is creepy as fuck

So...... what you are telling me, is these people never existed?

The future faces of Skynet.

Scary as fuck

The guy on the bottom left looks like tom cruise's brother

Are they created from nothing?

I dont know why but even if i look at it my brain refuses to admit its real

Excuse me, what the fuck?

WTF they look real! :S

The many-faced God is pleased.

What if they are real, coincidentally

Someone's gonna look exactly like one of these images and start questioning his/her existence.

Are these straight up CGI's or an amalgamation of composite images?

one of these fictional faces looked like an ex of mine and I'm honestly too tipsy to deal with that like an adult. not on lads. not on at all

This is upsetting

but that's uncle tom!!

They aren't intentionally copying someone, one of the women on the right looks exactly like someone I knew a couple years ago.

RTX on amirite?

Source?

they look real cause pics are of low quality

Maybe these are guys who are yet to born or have no photos clicked yet or available online. They could be real people, matter of fact how surely NVIDIA claims they are not.

And the future is here ... Who's gonna believe any picture is real from now on. Next t2 judgement day.

Top middle looks like Jessica Mauboy

I don't know why but this is fucking terrifying.

Times are starting to get scarier.....

plot twist: they're all just Australians

sees picture of dad

Bullshit

Second column from left, second from bottom: the AI named them "Pat"

Nice, well now I’m going to have these androids running around in my dreams and I really won’t know what’s real in there.

I don’t believe it. Can’t believe it.

Catfishing is getting an upgrade huh

What's really interesting (but predictable) is that many of the faces have exactly the same proportions and ratios of facial features. Eg the nose, eye spacing, mouth placement etc is near identical.

Kinda looks like one of those incredibly long drake memes.

We live in a simulation.

Sims rise up!!

Does anyone else realise they all have very similar dimples?

Someone ELI5 please

They kinda fucked up the shirt/tank-top of the woman in the second picture though

That is terrifying.

i think the ai became too smart and is messing with the engineers: cheated, downloaded random faces and simulated the computation.

Well, looks like simulation theory is real

That sucks because third column eighth down is pretty cute

BITCONNEEEEEECT

No fucking way this must be bullshit

Which one is Senator Palpatine?

No shit

Neuro-network? Really???

Catfishing people has never been so easy.

u/titletoimagebot

Neat! I can see my girlfriend

They're made by the machine learning system but they're made OUT OF real faces. They're not built from scratch. That's not possible.

Now take those faces out quotes under them, now you made a meme.

One of these is a picture of me. Am I real?

are these people dead?

Oh, that's why I can see there my -Will to live-

Now to just mix this with advancing google duplex tech. Things are about to get weird. 🙃

Technically they could be but we don't know them

I think this could become very interesting for games and NPC generation. This AI could maybe generate facial textures, for more diverse crowds. Would be interesting to know how long it takes to create one face.

Can we see the bad copies?

RTX ON!

Ok, I admit it looks very cool. But where this can be used in a real life?

creating artificial profiles and control their political affiliations.

Next up. Ai designed car based on all the other cars and built it.

A catfishs' wet dream!

So I am living in a simulation and all the people around me are generated faces?

What’s with the mini bill gates on the right

I call bullshit.. the fact the doppelganger are a thing. All these faces are real people

Now they are.

found my future wife

Businesses that make stock photos don't need to pay for models when they can generate new people

And I thought Raytracing GPUs were expensive, imagine the counterfeit ID ones.

Detroit become human

I think I saw my dad over there

RIP uncanny valley.

Hank Azaria.

They all look very odd and sinister to me

Legit thought this was a drake format meme before I realised what I was seeing

I am uncomfortable

time to make the best deepthroat video pliz haha

The institute is real!

Yeah that's not creepy at all, only one step away from the terminator

I don't understand

Imagine applying this to background AI characters in video games.

Bullshit. Why there are backgrounds and picture with two faces.

Apparently my mechanics' teacher is not real; it's the guy down left in the big picture.

These are cool and all but I wanna see the ones where the algorithm absolutely butchered some faces 😂

Well there goes the stock photo industry as we know it.

So after uncanny valley, theres a new plane of uncomfortably realistic looking

Are there any errors that could tell us that these are not real people?

No

They all kind of look familiar.

Think about it this way, have you ever met someone and had the impression you've met him before or ge must be on tv or something?

Well that feeling is coded in this algorithm, it looks at milions of faces, and then it gets a deja-vue of a never before seen face.

Oh wtf!

Tag yourself

I don't know, looks really real to me

The potential behind something like this, combined with something like the monster Alexa is becoming is terrifying...

Imagine how this could and willbe used for evil

They are not cgi/3d models though?

They're (very good) mashups of parts of faces from existing photos aren't they?

There's something deeply creepy about thisi don't know why! It's hard to fathom how they could not be real 😂

This is kinda scary. Black mirror shit.

Wut

Reminds me of the movie Cam on Netflix

This is such a mind fuck haha

they're all ugly

Step closer to the matrix

Oh please go ahead and prove how none of them are real.

You have to check with all the living and dead humans to prove it, which I highly doubt anyone did this.

This is actually unreal how far technology has come so we are now able to do shit like this.

Fucking skynet.

um excuse me what? But are just the faces not real and the hair and the rest of the picture is from some real photo?

Why are they all smiling???

Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think... why they should.

It reminds me of the painting ceci n’est pas une pipe.

Wtffffff

This cannot be real... too perfect.

We crossed the uncanny valley

Detroit: Become Human

This is scary

I swear I know some of these people.

Would like to see more races

This combined with procedually genersted gaming worlds basically means that computers have advanced enough to create a matrix for your whole life that would be fully indistguishable from reality

Im usually not this guy but....

Does the computer hate black people cuz it doesnt make black people

Pretty sure that's chubby David dobrik in the bottom left

Should have had a real picture of mark zukkerberg in the middle there

Nvidia is Skynet. We dead

Are you sure?

This hurts my brain. A lot.

What are the odds those faces have existed at some point in history or will exist in the future? Theres only so many ways arrange a face.

I dont get it. Is this a meme.

Incredible.

I don't believe you. You're a liar!

In the future you are going to look into your mirror and an AI is going to generate a better version of what you could look like.

Annnnd then promptly sell you goods and services.

The face on top left looks a lot like Ruud Gullit

I'll call bullshit

Ok so it’s JUST the face. Not the whole head and outfits.

Now we just have to wait for 100 more years until all that “deep learning” finally sends these AIs postal

Wait, why is there a picture of me in it?

They all look more real than mark zuccerberg

I don’t even know what you mean.

I think the easy give away on some of these is very unrealistic ear size symmetries. Does anyone have a simple reason why this seems so common?

Is this actually real?

Top left looks like a mix between old Tom Hanks and my grandparents gardener; Juan.

R/scaryasfuck

OP don’t you mean nvidia not nividia .

So, you’re saying the twitter bot thing is about to get realllll fucking weird.

Huh no uncanny valley.

Well we're fucked, aren't we?

Add a voice synthesizer and you can suddenly order porn to your exact specifications .

Trust issues intensify!

Bottom left is a fat Treadeau xD

4 along 3 up

Prove it

Yup....and Russia didn't have a man in their robot either.

The blonde woman right in the middle, you can tell she’s computer generated. I always find that computer generated faces seem to lose their realism with the facial lines. The cheek and mouth lines look completely wrong and so out of place. Often they go OTT with facial lines and make them too bold and too deep.

I always wondered when computer graphics would produce real life like images where you cannot discern the difference. I wondered if I would prefer these graphics in video games or if there would be a point of diminishing return on the coolness of realism in graphics. I've yet to play a game with full rendering with these graphics, but I feel it's just around the corner. I guess it'll be Graphics so good it'll feel like living in The Matrix

NVIDIA's RTX series graphics cards, released a few months ago, took the biggest step we've seen yet towards the this idea. There is definitely some diminishing returns in both gaming performance and consumer cost.

Yeah one day they will performance as expected, flawlessly. I wonder if I'll want to play the hyper realistic games. I'm sure they will make them. Like, red dead r2 but it really looks like you're shooting people or skinning the animal. It's going to be interesting to see these advances. Glad to be alive as a gamer with all this tech going upwards and onwards. :]

The guy on bottom left looks like a cross between Noel Gallagher and Jim from The Office

No I refuse to believe that

Bill Wurtz voice "That's a human person!'

Wait... how do I know I’m real? How do we know if anything is real?

what the fuck fuck fuckkk

Wait...that’s me?

We need to shut this down right now when we still can.

I’m sure you can find real people that look just like them somewhere in the world.

One of those faces looks like Bill Gates.

Wake me when they make Jesus' face

Jesus Christ. We are living in the matrix.

IT'S REAL TO ME! - Wrestling Fan

Context please?

Are the images on the right the parents, grandparents and so on of the mature image?

Wat? That look like Jeff... no? What?

That concerns me

Anybody else look for themselves? lol

Cyberdyne would like a meeting.

I want to see the bad attempts -- swapped eyes for mouths, for example.

Scary as fuck!

Future of porn is looking really good.

Yeah but which one would you rather fuck?

u/titletoimagebot

Not looking through all of these comments so sorry if anyone has said this already....but where are all the black people???

It's likely that the set of images used to train the AI how to draw faces did not contain many photos of black people.

You spelled Novideo wrong.

Seriously NIVIDIA, we have enough ugly people already. Try making some pretty ones.

You guys think thats interesting but my neighbors have made more ugly people and they dont even have a computer.

RIP Stock Photo models

My future wife is pictured wow

This is actually a bit terrifying.

This combined with audio impersonation software now.

You could be totally blackmailed or falsely set up and all the evidence would be based around audio and images of you.

I'd love to see the botched ones

I'm so confused.. so these are not real people? How?

I'll try to help ya out in the simplest form of AI/machine learning.

A machine learning algorithm (called a 'model') is taught what a human face looks like by being given a large data set of actual human faces. After seeing so many faces, the model is then able to give a try at recreating its own unique picture of a human face after being trained on what they look like.

It's the equivalent of an actual human being able to recognize or picture in their mind something they've seen with their eyes over a million times. And then, with perfect artistic ability, reproducing it in picture-form.

Damn. That's pretty cool.

So god uses Nvidia

It looks so real, I can’t believe the AI didn’t just pull them from google.

Guess they are

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finnished (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞

NVIDIA****

Imagine a world where someone with this tech can place you in a photograph or video (deep fakes) at the scene of a crime. Now imagine someone NOT doing that, but a defense attorney arguing that even though their client can obviously be seen stabbing the victim in a video, that the video isn't to be trusted. Yikes.

yay i am totally creeped out by tech yet again. Fucking future.

Perfectly balanced!

Why are most of them ugly?

Looks like even AI says fuck it and kicks off to the bar early once in a while huh? Looking at you sunglasses face.

Hey there's my girlfriend.

None of those faces seem to have much in the way of asymmetry

Ugly people need representation too!

Can't do Chinese or Japanese?

Ok machines. You win

prepares noose

Yeah I'm going to add this to the pile of WHY THE HELL ARE WE FUNDING THIS

Character creation in games could get seriously interesting

I like how there's 1 black dude

This is almost impossible to believe. Zero uncanny valley here. Zero. Now make them talk and you can eliminate actors entirely and just use voice artists. Imagine being able to cast a movie with exactly what you envision the character to look like.

What the fuck, it's me...

SCP-1004 here we come!!!

Their eyes look so emotionless. Pretty cool though.

The matryx is ready

How do they know if these people ain’t real? Maybe they exist somewhere in the world. And btw the woman with red lipstick is clearly Eva Longoria

Anyone know who the girl is with the red lipstick?

No f#@ing way 😱

What's weirder is there's a chance someone will be born and grow up to look like one of those faces this neuro- network made up

Apparently my dad isn't real. Whoops

Nope! Bullshit! I don’t believe it. There’s no way graphics could improve after the release of the original Tomb Raider game. Nope. /s

In all seriousness, I’m legit surprised at this level of detail. Damn.

x doubt

Then what’s Tobey Maguire doing in the top right corner?

Realtime? Specs?

These faces somehow manage to look unique and extremely generic at the same time.

2nd column, 2nd from bottom. Thank me when you’re done jizzing

This makes me extremely uncomfortable

You sure cause the girl on the 4th row from top looks like a friend I know.

Define real. Sure looks like real photos

Now I know how the Brotherhood of Steel felt in Fallout 4 😬

Also, the Sims 5

There's something off about them. Eerily lifeless and empty looking eyes

I dont know why but even if i look at it my brain refuses to admit its real

That’s it folks. The machines have finally won.

This is a lie and all those faces are real

Not a single black person

But... Im confused

They look totally real

Guy second from the bottom on the second largest column looks like a photoshopped nicolas cage face onto an old lady

Not real? We just haven’t found them yet.

I saw one the girl faces and got catfished

Nvidia, not nividia

Omg dad it's you!

You know damn well someone is going to look exactly like one of these photos and have an existential crisis because of it.

I’m actually in awe at this, they look so real!

Bullshit.

Yea im calling bullshit on this

Bull fucking shit

I call bullshit

I call bullshit!

Whats the point of this

Press Y for YES, N for NOPE, NOPE, NOPE

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Terminators !!

I’m having a hard time understanding why this is creepy? Is this any different than movies or games using CGI/animation to create faces? Anyone care to help me out here?

Movies and games have and use models that are made by people who spent quite a lot of time sculpting out the 3D model. Some tricks are used to build out things such as facial animations.

These were completely generated by AI from pools of sample data of real faces. The training algos made and built these on their own. People didn't "sculpt" them.

Were these created from pulling different features from a ton of sample photos? Like did it take someone’s eyes, someone else’s mouth, etc. or did it just create something completely unique after analyzing a ton of images?

It created something unique after analyzing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of images.

Nothing there is "ripped" or "copied" from an existing human face. It observed characteristics found in the shape of human faces (be it skin color, position of eyes, nose, mouth, shape, size, etc) and generated what it believed to be variants that fit within the constraints. From there, it built from the ground up, what it believed could BE real people based on its understood definition from what it observed.

To our eyes, it's right. Those look like real people.

Thanks for that explanation that’s actually pretty awesome! I think it might not seem weird to me because as I’m looking at these images I’m just assuming that I’m seeing pictures of random people, when in reality they don’t exist. Just having a hard time grasping it lol.

It really is hard to grasp. You see these people and they fit all the characteristics we have come to recognize as being a person. We also know what photos are and all of that, so in our minds, we're being told they are people. They aren't caricatures or animated 3D depictions.

Computers have reached uncanny valley, and this technology, while new, has already come a ways.

The same technology that made these is what's responsible for face swapping and mapping people, too. This is a great example of it in use.

The scariest thing is how they're so smiling, and non-depressed. What the fffsck are they so happy about? Don't they know that life sucks and the world is crumbling, being run to ruin by an orange madman??

Wat are teh odds! THats me on the left middle.

It's NVIDIA not NIVIDIA

Wait until someone decides to recreate this and factor in personality traits and demographics. We could use it to tease out potential genetic links to these traits.

Apparently they haven’t figured out how to make black faces?

Isn't that a over trained over fitted model !!!

Wait, did NVIDIA make this? Or did a company called NIVIDIA make this?

Incidentally, they're all Democrat voters

No black people?

The top right corner, there's one guy.

I thought race is a social construct....

How can you tell that just by looking?

Your right, who ever set the specifications on the program was....clears throat uncomfortably.... selective....

I am coming to the conclusion that nothing is real, we live in a simulation that was created by God aka real humans in the real world. Elon Musk will be the man to prove it so. He has already put several million into the research. However, brilliant men do tend to be a bit crazy. Take Howard Hughs brilliant and nuts.

Glitch_in_the_Matrix

That must be what dejavu is..."yes I know I probly didn't spell it right."

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Sandyhook victims!

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Top right you blind fucks! /s (you have a guy top right though)

So we now have the technology to start measuring what the perfect person would like, based on world-wide opinion, without being limited to actual human beings?

Or you know someone without any physical or mental problems the true normal human not perfect but what we see as average

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1st pic of 2nd column.

They’re all ugly

Something is off about the eyes.

They all have the same almond eyes. None of them have white showing on the bottom.

The younger ones have the same eyes which looks weird. They also seem to be squinting, which wouldn't be weird on itself but they're all doing it.

Oh it's terrifying. AI is evolving. Really really scarry.

How tf are these people not real?

It seema incapable of creating black faces. Remember that for when the machines rise.

No asians?

There’s a woman who appears to be Indian on the top middle.

Good these fuckers are ugly!

Why is there a photo of me…?

This scares me.

Racist ass computer

This is dumb

Ok, but why? What the hell do we need this for? Faking people? Creating false faces? What's the application here? I feel like sometimes people find these things so incredible and I just look at it in Wonder to myself what the hell the purpose is

Not really into conspiracy.... but is this the kind of thing someone would use with crisis actors to send to the media and make a mass murder incident? Hmmm, interesting regardless.

There is not one black guy or gal???

I scrolled down to see if anyone else noticed. There’s actually one black guy in the top right corner, but you gotta zoom in

And seriously, why are there so many white people in this?

Do white people bother you that much?

What a weird question

Probably because the majority of the world is white or a lighter skin color

Is that really true? I thought white people were becoming a minority

white or lighter skin color as in closer to being a light color and not a dark color

Assuming that the researchers put it in a good sample set of images (meaning, not skewed demographically), it could be due to lighting. Easier for the learner AI to pick up details on light colored skin. Just a theory

You are being downvoted, but it's a valid question.

The outcome relies entirely on the dataset. If the dataset used here is mostly photos of non-black people, then you are most likely to get an outcome which consists mostly of photos of non-black people.

It makes sense that the dataset might be lacking in the black people department because only a small percentage of internet users are black.

So you’re saying buy calls?

all in $nvda jan 18

You know it's real because none of the Girls are making a duck face

I am so disappointed one of them wasn't a bunny with a pancake on its' head

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They are. But modified.

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There’s one on the top right. There could be a variety of reasons there aren’t many, including the dataset the program was given and its ability to create good faces with different contrast and skin tones.

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Knowing about an issue and knowing how to fix them are two different things.

The dataset they fed the AI had many choking characteristics- the eyes. They all have the same almond shaped squint eyes. Maybe their dataset didn’t have many black people, who knows why.

I’d imagine there’s more difference in black skin tones and it would be hard to match photos together, for a start.

No Chinese?

This is going to be a bad thing before it's a good thing.

InfoWars just got an upgrade

And people said I was crazy for implying that half the people on the internet are just randomly generated. Who’s to say the global census isn’t a hoax. Maybe there’s not a few billion people on earth, maybe there’s far less.

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Nah, you're just racist. /s

No Africans.

I guess all black people do look alike.

Uhmm, where are the 'black' people?
I don't see anybody of African descent...

Top right m8

Because computers are racists!

I feel like doubting this. Your brain cannot actually comprehend faces that's you've never seen before (you can't make up your own faces completely). I also fee like out of 7.53 billion people at least a few of them looks almost identical to this.

Idk why people downvoted you. You are most probably correct since we don't know what everyone on earth looks like.

It's a sensationalist title. It's "based on genuine photos"

Every single one of them look like imposters, go figure. Jk, they look real obviously.

Why are the majority white? Honestly not trying to start something, I'm just curious

So you’re just assuming that some of these computer generated faces don’t identify as trans-racial?

Wow, ok.

A common issue with datasets available to researchers are that they're biased in some way simply because of the way the data is collected. Basically you need images at a certain resolution, focus, quality, etc to train with. Some datasets will grab data from the Internet while others need higher quality uniform data and getting headshots that represent a diverse group would take too long or cost too much. (Going to another country for instance might be necessary to get a really diverse dataset).

I'm sure their researchers would love to have larger datasets and more datapoints to work with. Building their training sets is probably an ongoing challenge.

edit: Actually now that I watch their video, they have large human and cat dataset. It's pretty clear they're trying to make cat girls if you read between the lines, so they don't need a super diverse human network.

Ah, thank you. I await the cat girls with anticipation

Bet these are used when showing victims of false flags and bogus shootings

Wow, you are one of the worst excuses for humans there are

Surely this tech will be used for only good purposes....

This is scary advanced. And I am about to start my career in data science. Oh the things I will make in the future... I'm afraid slightly lol

Everyday I'm beginning to believe we live in a simulation more and more. God damn Neil de Grasse Tyson, and Joe Rogan encouraging my psychedelic journey's 😐😂😂

You can tell because of the way it is.

They’re just composites.

This kinda weirds me out because humans can't really do this in their heads. I remember reading something long ago that every person in every dream you've ever had is someone you've seen before, even if it was just in passing, because the human mind can't just think up of objects it's never seen.

I dunno something feels off about them? I feel like their eyes are empty or missing something? Anyone else feel the same or am I losing it

That's because you want to find something off about them. Mix these in with real people you'd never tell the difference

You're projecting. If you saw these pictures randomly in a newspaper without any context, you'd not think twice about them whatsoever.

R/quityourbullshit

Cringe. That is disturbing.

Ha-ha-ha oh I get it... None of the faces were MADE by NVIDIA's neuro-network...

Funny, very funneh.

Quoting /u/ConsentingPotato

Ha-ha-ha oh I get it... None of the faces were MADE by NVIDIA's neuro-network...

Funny, very funneh.

So apparently you don't get it. These were all made by NVIDIA's GAN after it has been taught how to create faces. If this does not count as "made" to you then no computer graphics have ever been made by software, no music has been made by software etc.

Bullshit. I’m sorry but there’s no way

Okay, so it’s bullshit because you don’t understand how it works?

Wow calm down buddy I’m not actually saying it’s bullshit I’m just saying it’s incredibly impressive

Bullshit, I recognize Joey bottom left corner

Why should I be amused by this?

And they all lie in Chicago and vote straight Democrat tickets! Imagine, what are the odds?!? ;-) Hahahah have a sense of humor folks.

Looks like 2020 Democrat voters

Fuck off. Really?......

https://futurism.com/incredibly-realistic-faces-generated-neural-network

yes

That's insane......it's hurts thinking about it.

So...

I'm not even sure what to ask or say next I'm fucking flabbergasted.

That a lie, I can recognize Simón Cowell there

r/quityourbullshit that's my uncle

https://futurism.com/incredibly-realistic-faces-generated-neural-network

Oh, I totally forgot my uncle is just a rendered face. Sorry for misunderstanding. Have a great day.

That's strange. I swear these are all victims of Sandy Hook. /s

People must punch you a lot