Honestly, this is a rather hard manga to read.
Honestly, this is a rather hard manga to read.
neeko wa tsurai yo
Havent heard of this one, what's it about?
A cute girl with depression and social anxiety but trying to break free of a life being a NEET (Not in Employment, Education, or Training). Her family is mixed bag of being supportive and pushy and Neeko often gets compared to the outgoing and happy younger sister.
Damn, this *does* sound like a hard read, just not for the reasons I thought
i had to stop reading because it was bothering me a lot. You know how some people get second hand embarrassing, i was getting second hand anxiety just reading about the girl.
Yeah like I'm not even that bad in life but reading it is like "dude... what if I ended up like this, it could have actually happened if some more things went wrong..." and then I start sweating from anxiety and won't be able to sleep.
… I’m beginning to think third hand anxiety exists because me reading about you reading it is ALSO effecting me….
As someone who is slowly ending up like this, it's been a real eye-opener and got me to actually go and apply for jobs again, contact friends I haven't talked to for a while, etc.
It's been about a year and I feel much happier than I used to, it scares me to think of what would've become of me had I not read this manga and done all that stuff
I think I remember reading this one and having to stop midway through. At the time, I was also a NEET, and super depressed. I'm employed now, still super depressed, but I'm holding my shit together. I just hope neeko eventually managed to find happiness.
She reconnected with a friend from high school and got a part time job at a best buy, so shes on the up and up all things considered
That's me and Gunslinger Girl rn. Wanted to rewatch it and I think I'm going to have to stop because I've been depressed two days this week and both days I had watched some of the show.
It hits extremely close to home, to an unnerving degree for some people, like it's uncanny. I personally liked it a lot though
Damn she is literally me fr fr
Jesus, I wanna give her a hug now.
At least her younger sister is supportive, as far as I remember
Me irl. But the family is more pushy and less supportive.
So that's exactly me.
Too irl for me, I remember reading the first four chapters but I dropped it since it was just depressing
I focus on computer stuff too...
me too (unemployed CS student with gaming addiction)
Are you my older brother?
I can be :)
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🤨📸
Me too
Pls drop recommendations here
At first I thought you mean cs like country strike, and now I think I need to take brake from it.
Are you my clone?
I feel like this, but I also have issues with imposter syndrome. It gets hard to see the goal that might be a year or more down the line but I’m getting there eventually.
I just hope the world is still in one piece and the goal posts haven’t been moved out of reach by then.
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And I believe in the u/4amRamen that believes in you!
I really see myself ending up like that because I struggle to see my future as any sort of incentive or motivation, so I always end up falling into the same mistakes and procrastination
Even worse because it's hard to explain why we do this. It's not like I don't want to make changes in my life, and I'd like to pursue my dreams and hobbies, but it's like there's something missing in my brain. Apparently it's because of ADHD, but medication hasn't completely gotten rid of my inability to pursue my interests.
Huh, if its due to ADHD I really really should go get myself tested. Always thought I had one or another symptom but nothing big enough to be conclusive
Even if it turns out you don't have ADHD, you might find you have another health issue that can impact energy and motivation, so definitely talk to your doctor. I think therapy can help a lot too, only did it for a bit and then procrastinated getting a new one when I switched insurance... Haha
Apologies for the unsolicited advice, but look into behavioral activation. It's really helping me with my ADHD
So I looked it up, is it basically forcing yourself to do something even if you don't want to, or is it just doing anything, not necessarily your goal, just to increase your activity levels?
It's a little bit of both. The latter ends up making the former easier, or at least that's the idea.
The easier version that I sometimes use is that I'll agree to work on the thing for like 5/10 minutes. If I can't focus on it in those 5 minutes I'll just go do something else. Otherwise I usually end up wanting to complete what I am now working on.
It is ADHD. Doing anything becomes a monumental task and you have to trick yourself into doing things.
Yeah I usually avoid bringing up my ADHD since people can't understand that sort of thing. Tbh I guess I don't understand it either but you learn to do those weird things just to get anything done. I usually clean up stuff immediately because I know I'll either forget or won't have the motivation to do it later.
It's ok to accept that you're weak-willed and lazy. Not every handicapped person goes to compete in the Special Olympics. Only the strong-willed, hardworking ones do.
It is still possible to get better in that position, so don't despair! I was like that until 26 years old. It's all started from small push but almost 7 years later I'm in much better position, have a decent job, had an amazing relationship (which is unfortunately ending right now). Life is still tough and I just recently realized I had anxiety and ADHD since school years but I'm finally looking into treating it.
Job interviews in a nutshell
"Tell me about yourself"
"...Who am I?"
Ikr like mf i just gave you my resume???
Asuna, age 28
Lowkey painful how real and relatable this manga is
S-she like me...
SHE LIKE ME FR!
We are the same
What you do all day ? Play games What are you good at? Playing games Have you looked into that as a job? No
What you do all day? Play games What are you good at? ....
Bold of you to assume I'm good at games, even though I played them my whole life.
I'm in the same situation...
Oh god this is... So real
I had someone interrogate me about what I’m good at. It was very uncomfortable he kept asking if I lifted when I said he was disappointed the he asked if I was in ap classes when I said no he told me I’m not smart. Now he thinks I’m just a guy who plays games which is true but like he didn’t to interrogate me
That guy just sounds like a dick tbh, probably not someone you'd want to work for (if that was a job interview).
When I was studying at a university, I went to an interview for a helpdesk role. I chose that role because it would've been my first job, I had no experience at all on paper. The job posting specifically stated the position would have nothing to do with sales (this will be important later).
The guy who interviewed me was all smug, practically interrogated me, asked what I was studying at uni and when I answered IT engineering he asked me why I didn't apply for a software dev role. I answered the ads for those asked for 1-2 years of experience, which I didn't have, and the position was full time, M-F, 9-5, which I couldn't commit to while also going to classes. He ignored this latter part and smugly asked if I didn't have enough confidence, to which I couldn't really answer, after all, wtf do you answer to that, other than some insult? Next, he asked me to sell him a red pencil, which is a typical sales interview question... Yeah, no sales my ass.
I didn't get the job, of course, but later I heard that they treated people like shit at that company and the turnover was insane. What a surprise. Still my worst interview to date.
Nah it wasn’t a job interview he was interrogating me while I was waiting for a friend. That job definitely would’ve been hell if u got hired thank god u didn’t
If by "someone" you mean some random ass dude, man, you gotta tell people to mind their own business.
Nah he’s one of my friend’s friend I used to talk to him b4 this happened
This makes me want to cry...
literally me
I feel like reading this manga effected my destiny and I'm hoping that this is not a red flag, which probably is because the longer I type its more likely to be one and if I delete all of this now it will have a %100 probability. Let's hope I'll find a job in the future, notify me in 3-4 months to check on the university I will start
I can feel the anxious tension from her in this panel. I’d be in the same situation.
Too anime-irl. Being jobless sucks.
"what is your advice for me?" Go to Texas, in some places you can apparently buy 28 rounds of .308 Winchester for 20 bucks
Very irl for me atm
It always sucks when someone tries asking you for life advice and you have no idea what the fuck you’re doing.
The best advice I can give is; Don’t worry about other people knowing more than you, everyone else is in the same boat so if you’re doing something to sink it, they’ll probably do it too, or at the very least think it’s not a bad idea.
Wait is that the couch of sins
Just like me fr but ive never had a job for the time that i have been alive, im 16 and the only one the friend group with no job experience, i dont think i want a job right now to be honest, cus school and stuff
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I could and i would
But i stay inside of my house so often, it has crushed my social skills, i mean i can still talk a bit, just not a lot, it was ever since i left alaska where i had friends that i would go outside with and hang out, out here in utah because i live here, i dont get that, i have school friends, but i just dont want to annoy them and ask if they wanna hang out, i dont even have their numbers either, i wanna go back to anchorage, was fun times
I still dont about a job, ive never had one, id be a little nervous at an interview since i dont really do much
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In the future maybe 🥲
That couch looks familliar
Are that many neets out there Jesus christ
Recording on a couch... I think I know where this is going
Is this a casting couch?
This one hits a little too close to home.
Didn't expect to get called out like this, but here we are
This is how I feel when talking to someone I don’t know
Too anime_irl
Don't let your dreams be memes...😔
Hitting a bit too close to home there. :(
This sounds like my brother tbh. I worry about him…
Sauce: neeko wa tsurai yo
Bocchi the Rock but for us old people (also more emphasis on the mental illness and less on the getting over them)
Bocchi the unemployed🔥
oh that sounds interesting. Does it get handwaved away by "just get a job" like NHK?
Not about this manga but whatever it’s about NHK; while I think there’s a value to the way NHK is with that, I do prefer the NHK manga’s version of the story overall because something about Misaki’s characterization >!BPD + more manipulative + doesn’t have the abusive past!< is more interesting to me and there’s something much more realistically sinister in it. Like how Sato and Misaki constantly try things to get better but unlike in the anime where Sato eventually does get a job for the sake of survival, several attempts go wrong because their psychological issues don’t magically disappear and they drift from place to place only getting worse. If only the manga ending was tighter…
I've only read the LN and felt really disappointed for the same reason you've said. I couldn't muster any care about any of them at the end. It's been so long since I read it, but I do remember feeling that they were just so uninterested in really trying to get better and just waved it away with "We're kind of together because there's nothing else for us, so let's keep kind of trying I guess".
That doesn't do (anime) NHK's terrible message justice. NHK's message was "Get a job and have a cute, incredibly caring girlfriend show up at you door one morning".
What the heck are you on about?...that was not the message, did you even finish the show?
That wasn't the message it meant to give, but that's 100% the message it ends up giving.
I thought it was a bad anime.
Sad and unfortunate, I felt it was soul-crushingly real and thought provoking but I won't change your mind.
I mean, I'm glad you got the message the show intended at least.
Sounds like you projecting. Part of the message is that people aren't going to be able to fix your problems, and people come with their own problems so what can you do to help. Sato didn't get better because he got a job, the ending points out that he doesn't know if things will get better, but he continues anyway to try and find out.
Nah, thats literally how dumb the outcome of NHK was. Guy depressed? Just work more. Girl depressed? Just get pregnant and become a housewife! In cases like these you can really see japans ultra conservative mindset.
And you deny thats the solution because it literally happened twice.
Genuinely have zero idea what you're talking about. The main character is a NEET, he's not working. He's doing anything but working. The whole point is that someone that isolated and that loathsome, will keep choosing escapism because that's easier than facing reality. It's not until he's faced with homelessness, that he gets on his own two feet anf actually begins to live life.
As for housewife... are you talking about Misaki? Idk if that happens in the manga, but it definitely doesn't in the anime. Misaki is BPD coded and none of her behavior seems like it reinforces traditional Japanese views. She fixates on Satou b/c she knows he's a mentally weak and pathetic person. He's approachable to her and pitiable so she knows that if she makes him dependent on her, he'll never want to leave her. But she's prone to breakdowns and ill thinking herself and when it slips, Satou becomes disillusioned with her.
Becoming a housewife for Satou would be her ideal fantasy because she feels like she has zero value as a person otherwise, she bases it solely on the opinions that other people have of her, which I feel like the anime isn't romanticizing or idolizing at all.
I dont understand what you have a problem with, yes the MC is not working, and the anime makes it clear that is the issue. The solution NHK presents for all the issues is to just work more. In the eyes of the ultra conservative japanese the reason the MC and others are depressed is because they are not working enough. The reason the women are depressed? Dont have enough children. The guy who gets his life arranged by his parrents? Super happy because the elderly obviously know best. Its 100% reaffirming all traditional values.
I and others here are calling that utter bullshit.
Have you like not seen the second half of the anime? The "just work bro, trust me bro a 40h work week with no free time will totally improve your life bro" card has not been played once, but twice. Literally the exact same formula has been used twice in a row.
The message of the show was 100% "just work loser".
yeah sorry for late response but gotta disagree immensely there
Tatsuhiro isn't even happy at the end, and the only reason he starts to work is so he doesn't die of hunger, and the girl who works the most in the show (the president) gets in a compete mess maybe even worse than everyone else which her hard work never helps with
About yamazaki sure he ends up happy where he goes but rather than it being about "older people know best" I always saw it more as to do your best to enjoy life even in unfavorable circumstances, plus It adds to the feeling in the later show that everyone close to satou is becoming happy except him
nah if you even remotely know about japans ultra conservative values the "listen to your parents and work = no depression" becomes abundantly clear
again though, the show doenst actually show satou happy at the end
it sounds like you just saw him as happy so you could fit your narrative of what the show is saying
at most its saying that you have to get a job in order to survive on your own, which no matter what you think of it is true, food and bills dont pay themselves
Honestly I dont remember or care enough, my point still stands. In the end the anime pushes japanese conservative values, listen to your parents, get a job and be a wife. You act as if it only happens to the MC, but this is the case for literally every character in the show.
What is a NHK?
It's a tv broadcasting network in Japan. In the anime we're referring to "Welcome to the NHK", the main character is an apathetic neet, who (in a perpetual state of paranoia) believes the network is part of a brainwashing program trying to keep him from being a healthy member of society.
It happens if you just try man.
Oh shit i completely forgot about this manga after my old phone broke and I lost all of my tachiyomi entries! I know what I'm rereading tonight haha
Perfect depiction of millennial life. Absolutely worth a read.
only to chapter 38 currently and its listed as ended on mangadex
Too close to home