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The plaintiff yeah
What do you think that means?
He made his victims pay for their own room service at his estate!? Diabolical.
Does the document state that she was at the Epstein residence when she ordered room service?
Dunno, going off off of comment trying to make a funny.
Fair point, it’s hard to tell what’s serious and what’s comedy sometimes
Have you done an autism test?
Because I didn’t realize that a not very funny joke (sorry guy) was a joke?
Lol
FIrETrrrUUUKkkkkk I like chocolate milk .....
This isn't true. The receipts are from Virginia Roberts' time in Thailand, where she was sent by Epstein to study Thai massage and where she ultimately escaped the abuse from Epstein and Maxwell.
Okay, WHEN are the rest of the names available it’s all I care about. I keep seeing names of Jane Does. WHO were they with.
They already released his "black book" with all of his contacts a long time ago.
https://archive.org/details/jeffrey-epstein-39s-little-black-book-unredacted
That facts this is the top comment shows you how much they move the narrative and promote absolutely wild misinformation to discredit
Today is the day earth gets invaded by aliens then
What's this? It's a third chemical train with a steel chair!
Baw gawd, he is broken in half!!
He sent him straight to hell!
Somebody stop the damn match!
Wrasslin'
In the mud
1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table. What you didn't know is that it was all a distraction from aliens.
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He went half ShittyMorph.
The kind of people that distracts aren’t exactly the ones needing to be distracted.
Every shittymorph post is like the Men In Black Mind wipey pen thing.
The gotdam aliens are gonna flip another gotdam train
Seriously was another 20 car derail in Texas
Yeah I was originally going to make a "second train" joke because you know, 9/11, then remembered there already was a second train.
It does seem like there's no comparison between the two, though. Like the Texas one is bad, sure, but it's nowhere near the nightmare that the Ohio one seems to be.
Everyone is glad there's no looming death storm clouds, but boy did I consider domestic terrorism at that point.
It's far more likely than this is the result of greed and deregulation than active sabotage. It's almost like all those railroad workers striking were doing it for a reason.
I will just never understand those strange coincidences..
And who's that?
OMG IT'S BALLOON! BALLOON IS MAKING HIS WAY INTO THE HEADLINES!
Surprised that isn't getting much news. From what I've read it sounds like an environmental disaster.
I'm not American so I don't know how much media coverage it's getting there, but at least on reddit they've gotten a lot of visibility, especially the Ohio one.
🤣 this had me laughing so hard
RKO out of nowhere!
Nah this is being used to cover up the chemical train
Actually it's 4 now.
Ohio, South Carolina, Houston, and now Louisiana
There was three
Aaaand now I’m giggling at work. Thanks.
Dude I was just listening to the michael moore podcast and he was saying that in his life experience, this length of lack of response by authorities under pressure intuitively means they're hiding something. I was surprised to hear even a fairly mainstream guy like him say "they are often trying to keep the public from panicking".
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They need people panicking about the "right" things.
That’s what they want you to think
No. I believe this is the sole reason why they said masks don't work at first. They didn't want goddamn gunfights breaking out over n95s.
Unless what they’re truly hiding is something that would shatter the entire world paradigm
As long as it doesn't implicate many high powered government or global officials. Its different when they get us panicked for divisiveness, or pitting us against each other. They just don't want us panicked at them and put the pressure on them for their bad behavior
I remember the beginning though, with all the videos and stuff coming out of China and the MSM was silent. That made me like oh shit this might be bad. Once they started reporting though I was like ok we'll be alright haha
That was panicking indoors, mostly.
"Look, a balloon" they say, pointing a finger up into the sky while using the other hand to rob you dry.
There are no aliens. It's a distraction.
China and US tensions are high and seem to be getting worse.
Not a distraction. The real issue is the clear suppression of the Ohio incident. Wtf
Or the suppression of the recent Kansas pipeline rupture - worse in the pipeline’s history. Estimated cost to clean up - 500 million dollars. And the price at the pump goes up again.
2023 is truely off to an amazing start.
And it's only 1 1/2 months in :)
Resident in chief to thank
lol im in kansas and this is thr first im hearing of thsi
Dont feel bad. Talked to someone in Ohio yesterday who lives about 1 hour from the chemical catastrophe. She had no idea what I was talking about. Hadn't even heard of it.
I don't get how that's even a thing. I'm about 15 miles away from the incident.
It was on the front page of every paper in the area for a week straight, it was on all the local news stations, it was on the Pittsburgh and Youngstown and Cleveland and Columbus stations, it's been on national news, it was Facebook basically non-stop with people talking about it.
I feel like even the fucking Amish know about it, someone has to be completely disconnected to not have known about the train derailment.
And then people on here will say it's a media cover up, while commenting on a thread that's under a CNN or ABC News link.
The cover up is the shit ass clean up, and lying about what was in the cars.
15 miles away is extremely close in a country which is 2,800 miles wide. When people say the media is ignoring it, they mean it should have been leading major nationwide news for at least the first few nights, and given much more airtime and column inches than it has been, with journalists actually investigating what's happened and who is to blame. If you're saying that is all being done inside Ohio then that's great, because those responsible need to be held accountable. But it should be getting nationwide scrutiny.
I responded to someone who said a person who lives an hour away in the same state, which would be roughly 50 miles, hadn't heard anything about it.
I was just saying this has been huge Ohio (at least northeast OH and northwest PA) news since basically Saturday the 4th. To not have even heard about it, that is an amazing level of disconnect from media.
I don't expect somebody in Florida or Wisconsin or New Mexico to have heard about it, but I do expect the person one county away to have heard about it.
True, it is strange she hadn't heard.
WHYYYYY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS lol
Me too! I’m not terribly far from Mill Creek and just now heard about it. Good God.
Me too. Wth. I live in Kansas and have never heard/read about this yet
Oh sweet child of summer, they don't need an excuse to price gouge us peasants and profit off others misery, all the while holding their hands out for government handouts, while trying to paint a picture of the mythical welfare queen, cranking out kids to "work the system" the welfare queens working the system and ruining society are rich old white sociopaths, and they are mostly dudes.
If I had to guess these events are being caused by coordinated cyber attacks done by Russia as payback for Nordstream
Explains what happened in MICHIGAN
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Given that most of us commute by car with no other option, an increase in gas prices hurts low income families the same as an increase in any other consumer staple (which, coincidentally, have also experienced severe inflation lately).
But keep being a smug prick about it. It's easier than learning.
Waiiiiiitttttttttt what?
What is being suppressed about that exactly? I've been hearing about it constantly
This is a major disaster. Look at the mainstream attention it is getting. Balloons are still big. Online in forums and outside of our "trusted" news platforms, it's everywhere.
The amount of articles published as well are not what they should be. Every single news platform should be reporting the crap out of this. The chemicals are in the Ohio RIVER. Which drains into the MISSISSIPPI RIVER.
Edit Yes there is dilution. It will be less the further away it is from the source. Regardless this chemical should not be in the water. This is still a major contamination.
Major water supply contamination.
We already have major water supply issues as is. We are going to be out of clean water very soon. Then we are truely screwed. Desalination is only a temporary fix. Over reliance will kill the oceans ecosystem as brine discharge would be massive.
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There hasn't been enough train accidents, that have killed enough people yet. Change the safety of the tanker cars holding this crazy dangerous chemicals, look at euro tanks that at least have a frame around them and better spill protections. They seem to actually give a modicum of a damn about the communities that this hazards travel thru, or maybe about their product.
We definitely need some kind of better standards when it comes to railway safety.
That's .... Not how any of this works
Could you elaborate as to why when you get a moment?
Not op, but in my uninformed opinion, the volume of contaminants needed to reach a meaningful concentration in that much water is enormous and way way larger than what spilled, but I could be off. I'd imagine the contamination is almost in the gulf by now
Carcinogens are carcinogens, as a result of this the are in the air and water around the accident site. What the effects will be in the short or long term is hard to predict. I'm not understanding why people are so quick to brush it aside. It's a huge disaster.
Oh I'm just responding to the guy who implied this will collapse the US water supply, which is such an overreaction it's funny. It's still a huge preventable disaster that's probably going to give someone cancer
Because the US isn’t going to run out of clean water because of this incident. People are acting like this incident is the literal end of days, and it’s only a matter of time before the entire US collapses….
Yeah “carcinogens are carcinogens,” but we are literally eating, drinking, and breathing carcinogens every single day. It would take an astronomically massive amount of these chemicals constantly spilling into our water supply for several weeks before any meaningful harm is done.
Yes it’s a huge disaster, but it’s only a problem for the surrounding area. It’s not the fucking apocalypse like so many of you people are constantly screeching about.
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Rivers flow past communities that were established because the river is a freshwater source. Not sure why that's so hard to grasp
They only drink and shower with bottled water I guess. Plus, what's a little bit of hazardous chemicals in our freshwater resources?
Yeah which is why rivers are always clean and there's never been a contaminated, polluted river ever, and the ocean doesn't have any issues either. /s
The reason you’re not seeing wall to wall coverage on this largely unchanging situation is because it’s a largely unchanging situation.
There’s really no new information to be had.
Wow, this reeks of somebody that is nowhere near Ohio rn
20 mins from border.
Its big local news. Not national.
Well it got major attention when it happened, yes? Should they just keep repeating the same thing over and over again, or should the news continue to report on new things that happen? Maybe we should just have a prayer circle around Fox News while they report on Hunter Biden's cock.
It should report on new developments and continue stories if necessary while also reporting ither important new events. Other programs can easily be moved and we have had 24/7 news channels for quite sometime as well.
Haven't seen that happen with Covid or the Balloons though.
Well, Covid was actively killing people and was immediately relevant to every single person. The balloons came back up because, well, there were more of them. The train took a back burner because someone shot up a college campus. News changes daily.
Not sure what point you're trying to make. Contaminated freshwater supply for thousands and thousands of people is far, far more important than a few weather balloons.
wHaT aBoUt CoViD? Okay then.
"wHaT aBoUt CoViD? Okay then." I was literally responding to a comment that mentioned Covid, you knob. Of course you don't understand what point I'm trying to make. You won't even read.
I’m trying to understand the criticism of the medias coverage, but it just seems to boil down to it not being the main story.
Is there information they are not disclosing or something?
Case in point, everywhere I’ve seen the train wreck being discussed, it’s only about some perceived media suppression…because there are no new developments to discuss.
“This just in! Bad situation still bad.”
I don’t know what information they think isn’t being discussed.
It's just fake outrage. They have to complain about something, everything is a conspiracy.
Not saying it isn't an issue locally/regionally at all, but by the time it travels all the way down to the ocean it will be too diluted to be an issue.
"The solution to pollution is dilution" wasn't a great motto ever.
Yeah but the issue with that was companies using it as an excuse to add pollutants to water every single day. Hopefully this crisis isn't repeated at this company and we get stronger regulation on rail shipping labels and guidelines.
No, but “the dose makes the poison” is accurate here.
You are right and I made sure to address this properly. Thank you. Hope all is well and that you have a good day.
NYS will take all the excess salt for use on our roads in the winter. The real conspiracy is the salt makes our cars rust making it necessary to replace them frequently. Detroit loves us.
Isn't it basically just mustard gas that was released? It seems to dissipate from the area in like 2 weeks. None of the areas that were a location of a World War 1 battle in which mustard gas was used have dangerous levels of contamination.
This obviously isn't an ideal situation though
Nothing lol. Its literally reported on every single news outlet. Front page of reddit. Its all over youtube. Etc etc.
I wish there was a conspiracy sub only for non schizophrenic, average intelligence or above, critical thinking skilled people.
Constantly now yes, but it's well over a week later.
Same
How is it being suppressed? Every news channel has been doing reporting on it for the last 8 or so days.
MSM is covering the Ohio incident, mainstream reddit is memeing on us with screenshots which show MSM covering the ohio incident.
The Ohio incident seems to have been purposely caused by unions in order to send a message to the Biden administration, who was apparently pro-union on the campaign trail, what a joke.
Well fuck that union then. Be mad at them more than you are blaming Biden here
Fuck em both.
Union commits terrorism because they got screwed by an administration who promised to help them.
All around shitty people in an all around shitty situation.
Although, MSM blaming a Union for domestic terrorism would make the liberal's heads explode and cause them to question everything.
The current narrative is that the train company is somehow profiting off of this, and leftists are more than happy to be outraged about that because confirmation bias.
definitely not most likely, but I wouldn't be so sure. We literally have no idea WTF is going on, ever. All you can do is know it's probably not what you're being sold and leave your mind open to all other possibilities. There are things we don't currently and never will understand about the universe.
People hear "UFO" and think it means aliens, which is a perfect example of why aliens would have no interest in interacting with us.
Only a fool follows a finger to the sky
Distraction from what happening in Ohio. So many dead animals and soon dead people.
They admit they aren't aliens, but isn't it odd how a bunch of unmarked ones have suddenly appeared?
Odd, indeed.
There are aliens but not this time
"Don't look down"
If they didn't blow the planet up this would make for a great sequel to don't look up. Maybe it could be a prequel.
Michael Moore is fairly mainstraim now?
You know who he is, he's on tv, released 17 movies, consulted on 30+ more projects and famously predicted trump would win 2016 when everyone thought he was a joke.
He's mainstream in that we know all about him
He's a mainstream conspiracy theorist lmao. Everyone knows he's a full of shit whackjob
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Imagine the average conspiracy Redditor attacking personal appearance
Michael Moore is a fat shitbag
*mainstream shit bag
You read the part where he predicted trump winning right
Around half the country thought Trump would win, maybe more. The mainstream media (including a lot at Fox) did try to dismiss Trump's support, but pretty much all his supporters knew how popular he was, and how unpopular Hillary was. As somebody on the Left, though, Moore does stand out as having been able to read the tea leaves.
A panicking populace is as dangerous as it gets
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Fairly mainstream 🤡
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There’s people that cape for Michael Moore? Lmao wtf
I generally don't trust anyone who got rich by making movies about the evils of capitalism.
I mean could be, but from what I'm seeing it's more than likely a consequence of algos feeding people news they want to see. Even the MSM Cable News stations have been deciding what they cover based on audience attention scores they collect on each segment. Further down the comments, there are people talking about not hearing about the Kansas pipeline that burst a couple months ago even though they live in Kansas. I, who regularly read news and other content about the oil and gas industry, got a push notification the second the story broke in mid December. It's really illuminating to see how much the algos control what you see; compare your news feed (Google News, Apple News, others) with your s/o or a close friend sometime to see a completely different picture of the world.
They are often trying to keep the public from panicking. That’s not because there’s something to panic over. It’s because people will panic over nothing.
They don't want Buttigieg to look bad. Happened on his watch and he's nowhere to be seen. Secretary of Transportation should be out in front of the cameras, stepping up to address this, but somebody doesn't want him associated with it.
this is what im thinking
hes supposed to be next in line
Y2K
Michael Moore is a scum bag. He profits from eco-panic and man made climate change propaganda.
Oh thank god
For all we know the Anunnaki are coming back
Lol yes the coverups will be incredible... I think they knew this release date though, hence the balloons and train explosions the last few days. They are trying to create chaos to hide their crimes in
God, conspiracy brain is fucking wild. The trains blew up because the company running them wanted to save money on brakes.
I think what we need to do is realize that correlation is not causation.
However there is also no such thing as a coincidence when you're talking about huge entities like corporations, cartels, and governments.
Did Epstein related people stage 5 different major world events to false flag these papers into nonexistence? Hell no. There is no intelligence agency of human beings on Earth that could pull that off. Sure it might be kept secret from the public, but literally everyone in the intelligence game would know about it. I don't think even Epstein related folks have that much blackmail.
But would related media conglomerates all participate in minimizing the story passively as world events arise? Hell yeah. Top media people would be on the blackmail asap list. They wouldn't even need instructions or prolonged involvement. One sting and they will protect his rotting corpse till they get buried with him.
Makes more sense.
Burn after reading. Everyone serves their own interests
The only 100% true conspiracy
Coincidences still happen regardless of the actors, critical thinking should be applied to each situation. The assumption that everything a government does is a conspiracy is foolish
Lack of coincidence and conspiracy are not the same thing and I did not mean to conflate the two in my comment.
Saying there are no coincidences (like this train stuff) in a large entity is not the same as saying that it's a conspiracy.
It means that somewhere in this hierarchy, there was a failure point. The accident didn't happen for no reason. The whole reason for governance/incorporation is to establish strict guidelines and procedures. A failure like this is not a coincidence and has exact points of failure and responsible parties that are to blame regardless of intent.
Conspiracy would be if the people causing the accident did it intentionally with ulterior motives, which would basically be an international war crime level offense considering the scale of damages.
Dismissing analysis like this off-hand as conspiracy is harmful. It makes us ignore that there are very real causes to be understood and corrected. You can't just blame something arbitrary and move on if things are going to get any better in this messed up world.
I see what you mean, I didnt quite glean that from your comment I replied to but what you are saying now makes sense to me and I agree, I misinterpreted your original comment. Thanks for a thoughtful and informative reply.
All good. I get ranty about it and talk like I'm playing hopscotch with my logic. Like I switched between the main two topics of the thread for no reason to make the same point. Didn't even realize till now. Wild.
I get it, its easy to do on reddit lol
It's especially funny because everyone has been complaining about the media NOT covering the train derailment enough.
That's because it's almost directly Biden's fault for implementing anti union action in a time when the bounce back of our economy is 100% going to rely on labor. If we hate them and protest more then their plan fails.
Almost as bad as being a publicly outed pedo.
For clarity: the CHIPS act and infrastructure bill relies on tradesman like me that are certified to install high purity piping systems etc. He is only appealing to labor to make his bill more effective, but things like the rail strike breakup shows a lot.
So they don't give AF if they kill people/wildlife as long as they can save money on breaks?
Fuck I would hate to see what they are willing to do to save 15% or more on car insurance.
Literally yes. They lobbied the government to ease up the standards of what counts as "hazardous materials", because trains that carry hazardous materials are required to have modern brakes.
Gee, I wonder why that law exists. Oh well, I guess it will always remain a mystery.
I am so happy to see your comments in here. I don't want to spend the energy, but yes, Occam's Razor, and corporations don't care about people, only profits, its all pretty obvious.
The train employee strikes, unions, and statements have all been about overworked laborers and cutting corners on safety regulations.
It's the same in the Air Traffic Control industry. They are overworked, underpaid, and it's only a matter of time before some unfortunate events.
it's literally the exact same as in the ATC industry. reagan broke the ATC strike in the 80s, biden preemptively broke the rail workers' strike in december
Well, a FedEx plane tried to dry hump a Southwest jet a couple weeks ago in Texas so....
Just to support you with sources.
https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rules-before-ohio-derailment/
Then came 2017: After rail industry donors delivered more than $6 million to GOP campaigns, the Trump administration — backed by rail lobbyists and Senate Republicans — rescinded part of that rule aimed at making better braking systems widespread on the nation’s rails.
Spcifically, regulators killed provisions requiring rail cars carrying hazardous flammable materials to be equipped with electronic braking systems to stop trains more quickly than conventional air brakes. Norfolk Southern had previously touted the new technology — known as Electronically Controlled Pneumatic (ECP) brakes — for its “potential to reduce train stopping distances by as much as 60 percent over conventional air brake systems.”
Pretty black and white.
They lobbied the Trump admin to ease it, and the Trump admin rolled back a law the Obama admin put on the books about it. Therefor making this possible. You can very much thank Trump for this one.
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My point is that understanding exactly who's fault this is, and the policy, the de-regulation pushed by republicans, have direct results like this. If you don't want the earth poisoned, don't fucking vote for people that make it possible. It's that simple.
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Okay cool, and who's fault is that? Lemme guess, Biden's? Further, since we know it was caused directly by Scott Pruitt and Trump removing the regulation that Obama enacted, can we maybe go after them for it?
okay, thanks trump. good thing we have someone to point our fingers at.
It's important to understand the context for events like this so that when someone comes around saying "Government regulations destroy businesses and the working class!" you can point at these types of incidents for why we can't trust corporations not to be terrible.
It seems like they did that to set it up as the excuse as to why this is happening, but it seems bigger than that. 3 derailments in one week all carrying hazardous materials.... Silly coincidences.
We are pattern-seeking creatures, and it's always more comforting to know that there is an enemy, no matter how elusive and all-powerful, that you can point a finger at when in reality it's just companies being shitty and cutting corners for profit.
It's always about profit. It's always to cut corners to line share holders' pockets.
I'm not saying it's to cover the Epstein shit at all, but it's more than just brakes or axles and saving money.
Right, it's the tail end effect and reckoning of years of cutting corners for profit.
It's just expressed in bad brakes and completely careless upkeep requirements.
It’s always about the money though
Expound?
Intelligence agencies are companies too, they're not exempt from this logic
Brakes. But yes.
It's a real world version of those thought experiments with a train, a switch, and some people about to get run over. The alternative is making slightly less money.
Correct
Can you even fathom the carnage over what they would do for a Klondike Bar?
Yes. First time doing capitalism?
Thats capitalism, why do you think theres metals in baby food? Nobody in boardrooms give a fuck cuz they know theyll never see a jail cell
So they don't give AF if they kill people/wildlife as long as they can save money on breaks?
The only surprising part of your comment is that you seem to have trouble believing this
This your first day with Capitalism?
Call Geicko!
It's the cost savings vs the chance of the risk. It's like many precautions and rules, sometimes you can break them for years before a problem occurs. those years of saving on breaking the rule should outweigh what you estimate damages or fines to be.
Sometimes though companies just dgaf
Crashed you mean? EPA blew them up..
Ok, yes. I should be more specific with the cause and effect. The crash was caused by the brakes. The explosion was caused by law enforcement being very [GOOD] at their jobs.
Yea all cheap brakes go bad at once that makes more sense
You don't need all of them to go bad. Why would you think that?
All the ones filled with chemicals in the past week
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The TX one was caused by a semi trying to beat the train is what I read last night.
When was the last time you had derailments back to back
Considering there are about 1700 derailments in the US each year, probably yesterday, and today, and tomorrow.
Remember, the conspiracy theorists were right from the start about the Pandemic.
About what?
Also eagerly waiting for this to be answered, but we both know there won't be one lol.
You've been right about nothing and you know nothing.
Then why was the chemical set on fire? And why is no news station talking about it, despite it being probably the worst biological disaster on American soil in history?
Edit: Look at cnn right now. Tons of articles about a shooting. Tons on those stupid balloons. Tons of fearmongering about Russia and China. Not a single one on the front page about this. Maybe you can find a small article downplaying this disaster if you search for it, when it should be front page news with multiple articles.
Surely the news coverage would be more widespread if the train crash is being used as a coverup for the Epstein news?
The reason they're trying to cover it up is because this crash is a monument to all of capitalism's sins, and we can't have that.
It's not covering up Epstein, it's the opposite. This story is being downplayed and hidden because it could lead to massive cancer deaths and who knows what effects it'll have on the environment.
Literally every major news station has articles about it? What are you reading?
I guess I should clarify. Look at cnn right now. Tons of articles about a shooting. Tons on those stupid balloons. Tons of fearmongering about Russia and China. Not a single one on the front page about this. Maybe you can find a small article downplaying this disaster if you search for it, when it should be front page news with multiple articles.
The derailment happened days ago - news cycles move fast. Current front page news stories are more recent than that. So what I am guessing is happening is that other 'smaller' news stations are massively overplaying the significance- to try and be 'the first' to report on something. Major news stations are often a little bit more hesitant. They might wait a little longer until more information has come out, and they have been able to verify it more to report on it further.
One thing I always do is check both left-leaning and right-leaning news sources - if there is any possibility to stir up shit, one of them will be doing it. If neither is, it probably isn't that significant.
The derailment happened 11 days ago
If both sides are downloading it, either it's very minor... or it's very major and being intentionally hidden for some reason.
It’s set on fire because that’s the fastest way to break the chemicals down to other, more inert ones. Otherwise the chemicals would just sit and poison the soil for years
So superheating them and having that shit pumped into the air is better than trying to clean it up in a different way? I don't buy it.
Yes. There’s plenty of chemists who have talked about this. The bigger issue is the city and company telling people they’re totally safe to go back already
So superheating them and having that shit pumped into the air is better than trying to clean it up in a different way?
Which different way do you propose?
Literally all news stations are talking about this. Wtf are you talking about?
And it just happened to result in a crash immediately?
No. The train already had the bad brakes. The money was saved by not replacing them.
Yes. Duh.
I'm saying, it just happened to result in a crash IMMMMMMEDIATELY after the strike? Cmon.
And the normie NPC brain is fucking wild, look how easy it is to convince you otherwise, run a few news stories and repeat the same thing and there you go, the only thing you care about is proving the theory wrong with "the company wanted to save money on brakes!!!" everything else youve already forgotten.
Youve been mk ultrad son
It's not that deep lmao
Intricate deceptions have been a part of America for a long time. I don't agree that the trains or balloons are being used as that in this instance, but you can't just write it off because it seems silly.
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Do your own research. There's plenty of reputable sources right at your fingertips. I'm not here to prove anything.
Not brakes, axles
There totally wasn’t a huge protest where congress told them get fucked.
What, you mean a widespread strike protesting overwork and underpay regarding specifically train workers? One where the government said "no, you have to overwork and be underpaid" just a few months ago?
Nah, that couldn't possibly be directly related.
Yea man it’s crazy to think. “Hey if you keep doing this shit bad shit will happen”… bad shit happens, “Oh god how did this happen?”
This wasn't caused by overwork though it was faulty equipment. Which they successfully lobbied the Trump admin to let them keep using.
Im not saying its a conspiracy but they would be a good target for a cover up with their background in short cuts
Not as wild as your brain on hardcore government propaganda now that’s some wild shit
Or so it appears.... /s
The train thing is clearly an accident, but i don't think its a stretch to call the balloon shit a distraction, wouldn't even be the weirdest stunt the feds have ever pulled.
That's just what the they want you to think
8 billion people on this planet and some folks out there are shocked if more than one bad thing happens per week.
Illuminati also caused the earthquake in Turkey. Wake up sheeple!
Pretty sure the train is just total neglect on the part of a greedy ass corporation. But maybe the ufos tho 🤝
The trains that have received a miniscule amount of media attention? That doesn't sound like a very good distraction.
Conspiracy brain: No one is talking about this train derailment. Why are they covering this up?
Same conspiracy brain: they are using this train derailment (which they refuse to talk about) to cover up the eastern release.
It's truly incredible the dumb nonsense these people believe, no matter how contradictory, just so they can feel smarter and better than everyone else.
Yeah didn't I just read about a media blackout surrounding the trains...and now they're a cover up
It's so funny in here. Half the threads say the media is distracting us from the derailments. Half the threads are saying the media is using the derailments as a distraction.
Absolutely surreal.
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4d chess my friend
Right? If anything they are dropping these docs to distract us all from how bad ohio probably is.
We are all prone to being a little scatter brained and mistake useless meaningless crap as important, see the superbowl halftime show and how many non sports fans talked about it.
If you can be distracted by that you can be distracted by anything.
Crazy how all I hear about everywhere are these trains. Nobody’s talking about them though I guess.
Rail workers for the last 4 decades: "Shits getting really bad and if these companies aren't forced to update their infrastructure and manning bad things will happen."
*Nobody does anything, conditions continue to degrade
*Disasters happen
Conspiracy theorists with oatmeal for brains: "This is an op"
No one does a better job carrying water for entrenched power than conspiracy brains.
Nobody does anything
Hey, Biden did something: he stopped the strike about the working conditions of train employees!
That's worse than nothing.
Yeah trump totally would have let them strike, right?
Same shit would have happened; Biden and trump are puppets controlled by the neolib masters
We won't know because he's not president
So hypothetical isn't doing you any good
Biden did stoo the strike though 😳
Take a wild guess on what you think he would have done
It's easy to assume the worst
I wouldn't expect the best either
But what DID HAPPEN is JOE BIDEN made the strike illegal 🤔
what i don't understand about "making the strike illegal" is like.....can't the workers just like......not show up? biden can't animate their bodies and force them to work. it may technically be illegal, but what are the consequences?
The working conditions that weren't related to the actual trains. Which were the issue here. Blaming biden is exactly what this corporation would like you to do.
You may want to look into what they were actually striking for, in totality, before spouting off from obvious ignorance friendo.
You too bud
This is wrong. One of the concerns was infact safety; there were 3 person crews on mile long trains.
That has nothing to do with why the train with shit brakes derailed.
Sorry, glowie, but multiple trains carrying hazardous material have de-railed within days of each other.
You're the one carrying their water by claiming that's just a coincidence.
1700 trains derail a year, are they all coverups?
Its two spaces and a single line break to make a new line on reddit. Sorry not sorry but wrap your noodle around that before you opinionize on psyops opinionizers.
A formatting nerd? In this kind of sub? Knock yourself out I guess lol.
Yeah. Do as you please, all god dam or other power to you but basic phrasing is a lil bit important.
I was saying this yesterday in here!
i read an article mainstream press a bit ago saying that there were like eight train derailments nationwide in the past year. (two in california another in ohio, etc.) I dont know how unusual that is, but that sounds like a lot.
wtf is going on? either society is falling apart or...?
My father was a railroad engineer. Derailments do happen more than reported, usually they are not as devastating as the Ohio one.
Derailment just means a carriage or a wheel isn't where it should be. Its not a sign of the apocalypse, just a fuck up somewhere by someone and you only hear about the big "newsworthy" ones. There is likely a predictable cause that doesn't involve social upheaval to solve.
i read an article mainstream press a bit ago saying that there were like eight train derailments nationwide in the past year. (two in california another in ohio, etc.) I dont know how unusual that is, but that sounds like a lot.
It's not: there's an average of 1,700 train derailments per year. Most of them won't be very newsworthy, just minor accidents, but 8 or 10 big enough to cause injuries or leak chemicals sounds par for the course.
Yes definitely "them"
Trump & Pfizer= them
Biden and Ukraine = them
Oh, I forgot Bill Gates = them too
You have brain worms.
Wouldn't it be much easier to not release these documents?
Perhaps they can't control that?
Why do that rather than just not release this?
Because they can't control everything?
The trains blew up because we let greed run out infrastructure and staffing priorities you fucking muppet
The two things are not mutually exclusive
Wait so, the shadowy pedo cabal that runs the world sabotaged union negotiations and infrastructure spending for decades to cover up this paperwork that was released 3 years ago, this week?
Lol for a moment i forgot about r/conspiracy then I read your comment and checked the sub. congrats you guys for making it to the frontpage :)
They wanted to cover it up so much that they... released 2000 pages of court documents?
They can't control that part, that's why the coverups were needed
Who are “they”
Well, the president just gave this speech..
Deepfakes will be a very real thing we have to navigate in peoples misinformation campaigns… please don’t expedite their arrival. You’re literally a pioneer in ushering in this age as this is the first time I’ve seen someone try to post one without being cheeky.
Please delete it and don’t do this any more.
I wish this was real. I want shit to get wild.
Even the voice isn't too bad, just a bit too fast.
So when it doesn’t what are you gonna say?
Ha
For sure, today
Shit, with the way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if the aliena were on that list too
This document has been at that URL since August 2019, 3½ years ago. There's nothing new here.
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This is the most interesting comment in this thread.
It makes perfect sense, if you think about it a second.
How do you prosecute someone who is dead? They’re no longer guilty of a crime that you can put them through the court system for. How do you punish someone who is dead?
Think of this document as a record of what he did, and what was done to him by the government.
Once he’s dead, that’s it, he’s no longer involved in the criminal justice system. Any open investigation is stopped, there’s no further court dates, no future appeals, none of that, because he’s dead.
Your last sentence is incomplete: investigations into crimes related to his illegal activities continue.
Sure, I should have clarified.
An investigation into the ongoing criminal activity, and against other people involved, would still go on.
The investigation that focuses on proving Epstein’s personal crimes, seeking specific evidence to prove Epstein guilty of the crimes he’s accused of in court? That stops.
That’s what happens when the focus of an investigation dies; most of that investigation dies as well.
Imagine there’s a team of “put that specific guy in jail” investigators and prosecutors. If that specific guy dies, that team doesn’t have an investigation to do anymore, because they can’t do what they were tasked to do - put that specific guy in jail.
Or a bunch of really embarrassing information about your private life being made public “further eroded his previously enjoyed elevated status and potentially implicating some of his associates,” (according to the prison report) contributing to his suicide
doesnt mean what he did wasnt wrong. yeah he may not serve time but we need to find out everyone associated with him
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Or this is the version that was intercepted, edited, and released as part of the suppression efforts that included his murder. Plenty of fertile ground for speculation but probably never anything to confirm.
Or this is the version that was intercepted, edited
MD5 hash wouldn't match up if it were edited though, not without performing a collision attack. Which I guess someone powerful linked to Epstein (or a state actor) could potentially pull off.
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Yes and no. Within a few hours you can generate two files that will generate the same MD5 hash, but given a file that produces a particular hash, it's non-trivial to generate another file that will produce that hash. There is a pre-image attack for MD5, but it's barely an improvement over brute force.
I mean the version created and released on his death date from which the original hash is taken was already a modified version of whatever instigated his death.
Unfortunately I think MD5 is broken enough and the people wanting to suppress the information powerful enough that an MD5 hash is effectively useless in determining if this is the same, original document. If it was SHA-256 we'd be in a different spot, but MD5 has been known to be a weak hash for decades at this point.
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Doesn't this also assume the website hasn't been compromised?
Well that helps a lot, why are we even talking about MD5 then?
Wonder if anyone has the original SHA-256 to compare with?
It's on vt. You calculate the hash today and compare
Ahh, right, figures they have the SHA-256 as well. Thanks
MD5 has been known to be a weak hash for decades at this point
This statement just makes you appear to not understand hashes. Sure, MD5 isn't great because a LOT of things could possibly be the same hash. HOWEVER, editing a document and re-hashing will NEVER under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be the same hash as it was before.
More likely is the real list was found, he was murder and this one was released as a cover with names removed. Since it's the same one as was uploaded in 2019, it will have the same hash so we know, for a fact, it's unedited from that source. But that isn't saying the edited one wasn't the original uploaded document. In movies you kill the one with info on you after you find all the evidence.
Except that you can easily perform chosen-prefix forced collision attacks on MD5 hashes using scripts off github. This was theoretically proven in 1999, achieved under lab circumstances in 2005 (Wang; Yu), and seen in the wild various times since then. In 2012 MD5 collision attacks were used to spoof the fingerprint of Microsoft code signing certificates. In 2023 you can easily force MD5 collisions on PDF documents in a matter of hours using consumer grade hardware. In fact, doing so is now a common lab exercise in college-level cyber security coursework.
How do your statements make you appear?
This statement just makes you appear to not understand hashes.
I'm sure, whatever your experience, I've worked with hashes more than you. I think you're the one that doesn't understand why use of MD5 has been discouraged for anything requiring security for decades, my friend. Collision attacks are a thing.
a LOT of things could possibly be the same hash.
editing a document and re-hashing will NEVER under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be the same hash as it was before.
Your statements aren't even internally consistent if you only recognize you are allowed to edit a document more than once.
You could also do padding
Or anybody with average IT competency, MD5 has been broken for a looong time.
This article is from 2014, but it was compromised much earlier than that.
So I guess the message to take away here is that MD5 is well and truly broken,” McHugh said. “Whilst the two images have not shown a break in the pre-image resistance, I cannot think of a single case where the use of a broken cryptographic hash function is an appropriate choice.” The hash collision attack took 10 hours using a GPU session from Amazon Web Services which cost 65 US cents plus tax. The MD5 hash algorithm issue is that anyone has the means to generate the same hash from two separate inputs. McHugh also advised that “no one should be using MD5 for anything. However, old habits die hard and once upon a time MD5 seemed like a fast and secure hash function.”
One could download them both, and:
FC /B file1 file2
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created the day before he died, little sus
Maybe someone got wind of the evidence they had against him and had him offed. Since the lawyer who wrote it had the evidence, that means other people did too. This was just them writing it down for court. Then someone in the filings, there are many people, decided not to chance it and had him killed. Meaning its someone very powerful.
My money is on prince andrew. The dude that was just kicked out of a royal family for being in that list.
then it shouldn't have taken 2 yrs to release the evidence or for them to try to classify it well last all our demises. We better stand up get off our knee's and show them why our constitution was written
If this is not new, why the FUCK are people upvoting it?
Md5 hash😂😂😂 Tyrone wya
edit: As mentioned elsewhere, this document was actually made public in 2019, its not new.
The same document with the same amount of non-redacted text, or technically the same document but now without any redactions?
Of course this is redacted version no way in hell the top would leaders or Hollywood big pharma WEF, NATO, UNICEF, red cross it's literally on & on hell the creator of the damn SIMPSONS is on the list.
So some sort of death release thing what do you call those
Deadman switch
We already know they have clones Epstein bor Maxwell are actually dead or in prison funny Epstein UNALIVED himself but Maxwell is in camp luxury with her golf club and knitting & designer uniforms while millions of kids were raped tortured & killed for their pleasure & financial gain. I WANT THEM TO FACE THE GALLOWS LIKE OUR CONSTITUTION PERMITS
That’s interesting
Guess they had no use for him if he could keep his secrets.
Well once he died this documents are useless sadly, so why not release them.
2019 was 2 years ago tho.
…if he is dead. Cameras were down. He had a ton of money and elite connections.
the day he died or the day he got killed, still the day he died I suppose
The day he got plastic surgery and a new identity on a pretty new island to set up shop all over again
the day he "died"
"died"
How reliable is that site in determining these are the same documents?
AFAIK, it uses hashes to compare files, so if they’re both showing up with the same hash, it’s the same file.
You are correct. Any changes would result in a different hash.
Don't NFT me bro
as long as someone has verified the hash is the same hash from 2019 and isn't solely relying on a website to store md5, technically.
Not strictly true, md5 has many vulnerabilities and creating hash collisions for it is feasible.
Sure, but the likelihood of someone spoofing the hash 2 years ago and then uploading it to VT seems a bit unlikely.
It would be more likely that someone would want to spoof a hash after a file is released so that they can use it for whatever reason.
Yeah I'm not saying it's not the same file. I'm saying trusting an md5 hash as if it's inarguable (mathematically) is real foolishness. You can craft a collision in a trivial amount of time with no specialized hardware. This isn't like "the government can crack it"; this is like, I can do it probably today, on my home pc, without ever having done it before.
Yeah sure, we could also talk about how VT could have been hacked, or there was an insider threat, or someone got phished, or their domain host was compromised, or a million other things. In this specific case, it’s fairly safe to assume the hashes match up just fine.
VT could have been hacked, or there was an insider threat, or someone got phished, or their domain host was compromised, or a million other things
None of that is trivially easy to do .
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MD5 baf461af743efbdb7458b52bd6687702
SHA-1 9fe9f25d4e764a60c98cb1779acb506b800fa597
SHA-256 674c8534bc4b8b4cd05baa9fba50c16b050489f774605553550e65d83d129c01
SSDEEP 6291456:VfTjcZvVzRLARwdEg+e0Quw9HgN0URuLwST93tU2be/0BJq:5jcB8Rwd10+A1utJ3F6MK
TLSH T18E092323C7211437B0BD12107242164745622DBB7029FD2A1ADB78EF2B6BFF5AD71EA4
Virustotal has other hashes posted. Good luck find a collision with SHA-256
yeah if they can correlate other hashes with its hashes at creation time you're good to go with sha family
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means nothing in this case, even tho you can "force" a file to have the same hash as another by adding zeroes at the end, that is noticeable under analysis. also, either this document is spoofed or the 2019 one was, and for that to happen you would need the original (this one)
Similar to bitcoin mining :)
Yeah it's not necessarily using MD5 for comparison though, it just lists a variety of algos.
That spoof only works when you have an MD5 hash for a file, then want to create a similar, but modified, file with the same MD5 hash. It is nearly impossible to accomplish - would only be attempted for very very specific MD5 hashes like digital certificates (and no one would use MD5 to verify certificates anyway.)
The warning is that MD5 checksums aren't 100% reliable for security, only 99.9999% reliable. In other words it is only computationally feasible to generate a spoofed MD5 hash for two different files. No one can do it reliably. MD5 can still be relied on for verifying an original matches a copy.
There would be no point in this case to spoof anything. The goal of spoofing would be to claim this file was not uploaded to virustotal in 2019.
The file uploaded in 2019 was Epstein-Docs.pdf, there's zero chance this version we see today is not that same exact file.
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It isn't hard to generate an arbitrary MD5 collision... it is virtually impossible to modify a modified version of a file to match the original MD5.
It is the difference of taking the bible and scrambling all the letters until it generates the same MD5 - Difficult but possible. Then changing the bible from saying "God created the Earth" to say "George Soros created the Earth" - impossible.
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You sound like someone who says we can't prove hunter biden's laptop isn't russian disinformation.
Essentially, it's the most reliable.
As reliable as can be short of you being involved at every step of the way, witnessing everything first hand.
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The real r/conspiracy is always in the comments
MacAffee knew.
Alright we’ll who’s on the list
Page 670 or so Prince Andrew for sure fucks kids
683 to 684 represents a jump of 80 pages of testimony. No telling who she named there.
Ditto 675 to 676 - 47 missing pages
Q: When were you sexually trafficked to George Mitchell?
Q: Do you have the originals?
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That is what it looked like to me but I haven't read the whole thing so I encourage people to keep digging.
Most people want to see names.
We already have his "black book" of contacts.
If anything hopefully this encourages people to read this.
https://archive.org/details/jeffrey-epstein-39s-little-black-book-unredacted
673
I opened the document, and I thought 2000 pages, no way I read that.
But now I started to read from page 670 I feel like continuing.
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I do not think there is a single interrogation that this complete, they all cut short, which makes reading it infuriating.
For example, "Agren Blando Court Reporting & Video, Inc." page 1040 in the document. There are pages 1-2 which just give context and persons appearing, then it starts at page 16, cuts at page 17, resumes at page 26, cuts, etc. There are page 1, 2, 16, 17, 26, 28, 53, 56, 61, 111, 116, 117, 118, 120, 127, 128, 138, 139, 155, 193, 194, 198, 199, 201, 204, 205, 206, 232, 233, 240, 241, 249, 250, 251, 333, 346.
Page 346 seems to be the last, so there are 36 pages out of 346. 90% of the interrogation is missing and every interrogation is like this. Also, it is video tapped, where is the fucking video?!
You're doing god's work: please report back with any juice you may find.
Pretty sure there was alot a juice to be found
Give yourself a big pat on the back for reading
Price Andrew for sure rapes* kids. Let’s be clear.
Uh... uhhh, quick, look at Meghan! She told everyone we were racist! How dare she embarrass our poor family by revealing what we did! So ungrateful, right? Everyone go hate on Meghan!
Or look Prince Andrew! Don't look at the other names!
Its rape. Get your verbiage right.
They were having bat mitzvah parties on the islands, so they are kosher adults
alan dershowitz also mentioned on 681
Trump was on pedophile Island too never forget
When he shut it down and arrested everyone?
Which page?
470 and 138
To the island or to other cities?
The plane doesn't fly directly to the island due to thevlack of a landing strip, per everyone in this thread. All of the flights are just between cities.
Prince Andrew visited a lot. Do you think he has a loyalty card? After the 6th visit you get free sex.
punch it 👉
That’s what she said
Twist it 👆
Pinch it 🤏
No sweat, he brings the pizza for the after-party
More like after your 6th visit you get to participate in a hunt for free.
And we're not talking hunting animals
his version of a tesco clubcard
Royalty card
It’s 10 visits
They weren't "paying" for the sex with money, they were paying with blackmail and influence
free subs
I wonder what will come of this
Memes, lots of memes.
The meme economy is in scrambles! It's a bull market.
Spicy ones??
Bro. Sandy Berger. On an island.
Most likely nothing. We're past the point of no return when it comes to holding guilty people accountable for their crimes.
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And you know releasing it on Valentine's Day is some kind of purposeful weird joke in itself, as well as a distraction from everything else going on lately.
I don't get your edit. You said the same thing twice.
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The inference I was making was all extremely wealthy people are guilty people.
I understood that, but that doesn't mean "guilty people" and "extraordinarily wealthy people" are the same thing. That means the latter is a subset of the former.
Yes. Ok, fine, the joke didn't land. My point is, I believe in order to be wealthy to the extend that these people are wealthy, you MUST exploit people. Whether you do it legally or not, I equate it to crime. Hence, all extremely wealthy people are guilty of something. Many things probably.
I 100% agree with you there. Once you're over a billion, you're definitely guilty of exploiting others, cheating the rules, rigging the game, and taking advantage of any loophole and connection you have. The only exceptions to this are those who married into money or got it from a divorce, like Mackenzie Bezos (though of course by standing by someone as evil as Jeff she carries some guilt by association). Chuck Feeney is okay too.
This is such a dumb ass meme. Being poor does come with a culture of crime for sure but people are not stealing to eat. I don't know any poor people who don't get at least food stamps and if they're stealing anything it's fucking nikes or phones.
To qualify for my (blue) states food stamp program, you need to prove you make under a certain income, adjusted for how many people you share a household with.
I wonder how the homeless are supposed to eat? Maybe instead of stealing they should ask nicely? Cops will get called for loitering and soliciting.
I've even had the cops called on me multiple times for rummaging thru the dumpsters looking for food.
It was actually easier to steal the food before they threw it in the dumpster.
The homeless in my blue state all have food stamps, but they eat at the shelter or the multiple groups who come to give food because they trade their food stamps for cash.
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You don't see what's wrong with specifically visiting a private island run by a sex trafficker? It's the only reason people go there. You have to be invited, you don't just show up.
Are you that simple that you think everyone that visited was raping kids…
I think the only reason to go there was to use his services, yes. It was a place of business for him, not just a home. I don't think everyone working there was a minor, though. Or were they? I don't know those details.
I mean, it wouldnt take long before you figured out the purpose of the island. Why would you associate with those kind of people afterwords? Why would you go to the island knowing this? Why would you risk such an avoidable instance?
If you think these people didnt know what was up, you are wrong. People talk / gossip all the time. They knew, and still associated with them.
I'm sure they were on an island, full of underage children used for sex, just for the views and clean air.
To be fair, a list of names of people who went to his island is not evidence of a crime. I would say that if they were there only once, a narrative that they didn't know what kind of party they were going to is at least plausible.
What crimes do the documents prove?
Panama Papers Part Duex
So nothing
Edit: a few dead reporters
Hey now that's not fair to say nothing happened because of the Panama Papers...~~the~~ a journalist ~~who released them~~ was murdered.
True.
They're still alive and well. The Maltese journalist who analyzed and reported on the Panama Papers, and was highly critical of the Maltese government, was murdered.
My bad, I knew there was a journalist killed in the wake of the Panama Papers, I just assumed it was the originator of them.
Appreciate the correction!
Just some dead reporters 🤷♀️
And what happened from that?
Nothing, which is abhorrent but still true.
I'll edit my comment because that is very true
Exactly. I'm with you, friend! Nothing will change sadly
Frustratingly sad, just like Khashoggi.
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Found the rich people plant.
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People with security clearances can't associate with criminals.
Six degrees of Jail Baiton?
It's association with a rape island
Which, in itself, in the eyes of the law, is not a crime.
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Probably nothing HEY LOOK HUNTER BIDEN’S LAPTOP BENGHAZI CHINESE SPY BALLOON
Same thing that happened with the Panama papers.
Andrew has to live in the $100,000,000 mansion now. Poor guy.
Tons of Republicans ignoring their guys while hooting as loud as they can about Democrats listed and just as many Democrats insisting that the presence of their guys on the island doesn't mean they are necessarily pedophiles while they insist that it does mean that any Republicans listed are.
Most likely nothing. We're past the point of no return when it comes to holding guilty people accountable for their crimes.
epstein was in high society social circles and powerful and influential people flew on his plane. that's literally all this proves so nothing will happen. for a place up in arms about forced vaccines they really seem to be okay with death based on an association list.
If it's Bill Clinton, then we need to take down the democrats! If it's Trump, then it's fake news made up by the deep state.
Just because you flew to Epstein’s private island and spent days there with him and underage girls doesn’t mean you actually had sex with Epstein.
4 Letters: N-A-D-A
Nothing probably or as another comment said the alien invasion is this week now.
When everyone is guilty, no one is guilty....
It's just a list of people who has been on the island. Stephen Hawking, his wife a nurse and at least one of their daughters are on that list. He flew out shitloads of physicist and their families after a conference.
The same as Panama Papers and Pandora Papers.
the people who control the system are not beholden to laws.
fascists will point out their enemies and ignore their leaders.
What should happen is every single celebrity/politician/rich person that raped a child should go to jail.
A podcast series. Again.
LMAO, nothing, no one on that list stopped being rich
You're looking at it.
Nothing at all. If anything, this isn't going to tell the public anymore than what's already been knowledge. It just gives some more specific dates, which doesn't add anything to this unfortunately.
I wish there was more in these documents, but I'm sure many here understand, many people have died in attempts to uncover the reality of sex trafficking amongst worldwide elites, oligarchs, CEOs and celebrities.
The problem I've observed is that there's been too many red herrings placed deliberately to muddle the truth. I'm not going to go into specific ones, but be weary of all the satanic panic bullshit.
Aliens
Your taxes will probably go up.
Nothing lol
Got this to the top of popular
Top of /all atm
What's the difference at this point?
I honestly don't know.
Bill Clinton 520 lol
Donald Trump is in there as well, multiple times
This exchange pretty much sums up Reddit.
Obligatory Red vs Blue
The key to corruption nowadays is to make sure every issue is seen as political so 50% will take your side regardless of guilt.
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Just go away.
The difference is, Democrats would be happy to charge a Democrat if there's a case and evidence is brought forward.
Republicans circle the wagons. Every damned time.
The fact you think there is a difference between either party is laughable. They are all the same. Useless and corrupt.
No, I'm calling out people here who have no fucking problem throwing accusations at Clinton, while at the same time turning a blind eye to trump. You know, the guy who has court deposition against him saying he raped a 13 year old.
Stop playing into the game of “mY tEaM iS bEtTeR”. You don’t know these people you cheer for. They all suck.
Fuck bill Clinton he's one of the main mfs that made sure the war on drugs kept its course and fuck trump too but let's not act like democrat don't throw us a bone once in a while while the last time the republicans had any power they used it to to take out a loan for 1.5 billion dollars for rich people welfare that the poors like us are gonna have to start paying back next year 🤣
Life is a series of patterns.
I literally saw bill’s name first so just thought it was ironic af
What exchange? He mentioned a well known politician in the list and I mentioned another. Couldn't give less of a fuck about either of them.
I'm not even American lol. Not everything has to do with American's blue Vs red politics?
Now you can see why Epstein suddenly "killed himself"
Well hang them both then
If it wasn't flying to the island it's a nothingburger. Sharing flights/jets among billionaires is pretty common. Trump is the only one who did a deposition against Epstein... So he should get some credit for that.
If it wasn't flying to the island it's a nothingburger.
...huh??
If the jet was flying from West Palm Beach to Newark then it's nothing. Most of the name references are on flight logs to random places in America. If the name is attached to going to the famous island or the nearby airport of the island then I think it would be more defamatory.
His plane never went to his island because you can't land a plane on it.
Also, it's entirely possible to rape kids not on an island.
I specified a nearby island just in case someone like you replied. Your second sentence is obvious and ignores how rich people share jets that I mentioned before. You're the person who thinks if you're on a picture with a criminal then you're just as guilty, context doesn't matter to you.
At this point, anyone who visited the island should be considered a rapist/slaver. But if they just borrowed the plane to somewhere else, not convinced.
Donald Trump is in there as well, multiple times
In what context?
Epstein, a Wall Street money manager who once counted Bill Clinton and Donald Trump among his friends, became the subject of an undercover investigation in 2005 after the stepmother of a 14-year oid girl claimed she was paid $200 (?125) to give him an 'erotic massage?.
This?
How many times ? 400 ? 300 ? Lol
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I don’t give a shit if he’s your favorite president, he’s in the list (so is Bill Clinton, who’s on page 519)
but yeah, your welcome
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My brother lol. The man was on a plane called the Lolita express. Defend him all you want
Cope harder, big daddy trump is just like any other corrupt politician
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Read page 1918
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman!”
Ctrl+f: "Dwigt"
Results: Samuel L. Chang
dwigHt
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The office
Nice
My favorite Office moment of all time.
These documents were unsealed in 2019. You can see the date at the top of each page. Insider, which uploaded the PDF of the court documents to Documentcloud, reported on them. You can see the reporting on them here.
Yeah this has been available for a very long time. I have seen threads years ago where they hyper-analyze the flight logs.. I think its good that more visibility has been brought to this document though but I think OP should clarify
I've been following this and have never seen this document til yesterday.
It has LOTS of new documents and I encourage everyone to take some time to look through it and report what you find.
This document is NEW on /r/conspiracy so it is a new document.
This should be at the top
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Because OP doesn't know how to use Google.
Or is a bot trying to distract from the catastrophe that happened in Ohio that is affecting and going to affect many states.
Anyone within 200 miles, hell 500 miles, get your health checked now for a baseline to prove that what is tantamount to a chemical nuke that got dropped on us is what caused your future cancer.
Bullshit, you've never seen this document before and neither has anyone on reddit.
It is NEW to the public.
Wow, Prince Andrew's name comes up alot. Do a search by name "crtl F" it comes up with all the paragraphs where his name appears. Clinton as many hits.
"prince andrew" -176
"clinton" -68
"trump" -39
I mean. Its obvious who had epstein killed now. Who else would have the authority to have someone killed in a jail cell like that besides a prince?
a sitting president/head of state. especially of the country it happened in
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i just did (and responded to) the ctrl f thing
People have been accusing both the Clintons of sexual abuse since the 80s. To anyone paying attention, it isn't new information. What's nuts is that they've been able to get away with it for this long.
I guess their list of friends who've committed suicide is a testimony to their connections and power though.
*will still get away with.
You're right, unfortunately.
i mean people have been making up stories about it since the 80s including a child sex ring under a pizza shop. If they are abusers the need to be punished but it's hard to believe when there are so many lies made up about it for decades.
It being under the pizza shop was a red herring. There was definitely something fucky about Comet Ping Pong and James Alefantis though.
I didn't say anything about a pizza shop.
Kinda weird how so many different people keep telling the same "lies" about the same people, isn't it?
Sorry I just realized what sub this was… I’ll just move on
And Tom hanks?
Fifty-two times.
Although it’s worth mentioning, every time his name is listed it is in reference to him being fined for disturbing parties by landing, albeit illegally trespassing, on the island with a medical evacuation helicopter to rescue the trafficked girls.
Hank's was helping get girls off the island away from the predictors?
If Hank's knew, who else knew and why the FEDs/CIA weren't involved to stop this crap?
Because he was going in as Black Ops.
Black balaclavas and all, weapons drawn, no safeties and live rounds. The actor had 16 confirmed kills, himself, of the island henchmen.
If it got out what he was doing between recording lines for the Toy Story movies it would have ended his career. That's why his name was only mentioned in the documents as witnessed by the henchmen that survived - but never mentioned in any of the official flight plan/ gov documents for the incursions....
It was a THanks-less job.
What the fuck? You can’t be serious. So Tom hanks is a real life Tom cruise character?
He is literally, LITERALLY LITERALLY bulletproof.
Government experimentation.
Tom Hanks is not in that document at all.
Bill gates anyone?
People should sponsor billboards with this on it. If the news has a a blackout on the information then at least that method would help. Either that or posting it all over social media.
pg 568 for bill gates
pg 470 for donald trump
pg 562 for John Roberts
pg 544 for Larry Summers
pg 544 for Alan dershowitz
pg 517 for bill clinton, naome campbell
pg 468 John Glenn
522 Kevin spacey
Is that Chris Tucker right after Spacey?
Yeah, but not THAT Chris Tucker
Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth!?
Its Friday, you ain't got no job....
*mouff
Oh thank goodness.
So, were there underage boys involved with this?
I don't think every person that took a flight is guilty of something related to the Epstein case, so he may not be involved.
If one name on this list makes sense, it's Kevin Spacey.
Sweet summer child
Epstein definitely tried to be connected to as many people of wealth and power as possible, not all of which will be pedophiles.
There'll definitely be innocent people on that list
Did you read any of the reporting on Epstein island? It was rampant there. It’s possible there’s rich people that met him at parties that didn’t know about it, but anyone that actually went to Epstein island definitely knew.
I think the argument is that Spacey is gay and from what I can tell Epstein only had girls on his flights/island. Obviously doesn't excuse him and we all know he's a pedo anyway.
From my understanding of how he operated most of the time, I would expect Spacey to turn up with an escort +1.
Long before all of the news came out about his abusive behavior, it was pretty common knowledge that he often arrived at events with a younger twink in tow, and it was expected for nobody working the event to comment on it.
O’ mine
Stick to the facts, he's a rich and powerful man, some of it was likely business too.
Its possible that they bring them to the island before telling them wtf is going on, and then they put them on the spot or something. But I assume that if someone has been more than once on the island something is fishy.
Yeah everyone taking the pedophile express definitely wasn’t a pedo lol yeah keep telling yourself that.
I'm sure those two particular circles share a bit of overlap.
wait where?
John Roberts? The Supreme Court Chief Justice?
The log does not specify. There is also the Fox News talking head John Roberts
Yeah that's a pretty generic white dude name
John Glenn was a bit of surprise. Like I'm sure famous astronauts are well off with endorsements, speeches, and books.
But didn't think they had Epstein black book money
John Glenn has a tie to Les Wexner who financed Epstein. Both are Ohio dudes.
One entry in the flight logs, on September 8, 1996, shows that Glenn, Epstein, and Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz flew on Epstein's jet from Ronald Reagan National Airport in Washington, DC, to Port Columbus International Airport in Ohio. (The airport's name was changed to John Glenn Columbus International Airport after the senator's death in 2016.)
Dershowitz, who defended Epstein a decade later against sex trafficking charges in Florida, confirmed to INSIDER that Glenn was on the flight. He said the three were flying to a dinner Leslie Wexner's held for his 59th birthday. Dershowitz described the same party to New York magazine last month.
John Glenn is not on there as an astronaut, he was Senator from Ohio for 25 years helping Wexner, Wexner helping him.
Great work
Not everyone who went to that island was involved in the pedo shit. Epstein liked to collect science and science adjacent people like Stephen Hawking.
This is the insidious part about how he worked, he'd invite all sorts of famous people and muddy the waters. Like Matt Groening only got a foot rub, but obviously others had sex with minors. Some only got a plane ride. Seems harmless, right?
If you do it like this, the whole set of the rich and powerful look guilty if they get caught, so even if they didn't strictly do anything dirty, they're obliged to use their power to protect you.
Well, or to kill you, if it gets bad enough.
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My Wife asked for a foot rub. We have 3 kids now.
So THAT'S how it works...
It’s that pedi-feelya
Remember what happened to that guy that gave Mrs Marcellus Wallace a foot rub?
You just need a vasectomy.
And a time machine.
Vasectomies don't work. Just makes your new kids darker
One hell of a foot rub.
One of the victims said so.
Tony Rocky Horror gave a girl foot rub, then a couple guys threw him off a balcony 4 floors up and he fell through a greenhouse. He later developed a speech impediment
I guess we don’t, but is there any evidence there was more than that?
The girl who did it reported it and Groening himself basically confirmed it saying he felt ashamed by the whole ordeal and that it was only a foot rub and he didn’t know she was underaged.
would explain why they had pre 911 knowledge in many of these cartoons.
Fucks sake
It isn’t. Pure speculation and an irresponsible comment by that guy.
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He won't say anything, he's defending a brother.
foot rub = bj in pedo world?
Alan Dershbagowitz said he kept his underwear on the whole time.
Lawyers are master manipulators when it comes to “truth”. So, having your underwear around your ankles is technically still on, isn’t it? Always lookin for loopholes around absolute truth.
Ya I kept my underwear on after taking a date home on Saturday and it was definitely not PG-13.
Su su su Soaking! Only real Utah kids know
Thanks to tiktok we all know now.
He had his underwear on but he had a hole in the front and a hole in the back. Don't ask me why he had a hole in the back of his underwear.
Dershbagowitz
:-)
Like Matt Groening only got a foot rub
Still fucking creepy.
Apparently, he found it that way too.
Best guess is that that was Epstein testing the waters.
Simpsons was an incredibly popular and influential show, not a surprise someone would try to control Groening with blackmail
Then they'll use the Simpsons to actually recruit people for the Navy instead of just talking about it on one episode as if it was a bad thing.
Right?
Edit: I mean, what else would they use the Simpsons to do?
damn superliminal advertising
Hey you! Join the Navy!
NIETSPE EHT NIOJ
Everybody's doing this
Brand
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Dance!!
Ba-na-nana
Do the Epstein!
Ba-na-nana
Do the Eh-Ep-Stein!
Do the Epstein!!
Edit: Ba-na-nana
YVAN EHT NIOJ
Exactly! Matt wasn't interested or stupid and cruel enough, took the foot rub to get them off his back and leave him alone.
If he was so disturbed by little kid island how come he didn't say anything
"Man, you guys. You'll never believe what Epstein's up to. He asked a teen masseuse to give me a foot massage! Now, I'm no expert on masseuses, but I'm pretty sure this is an indication that he's running a secret human trafficking ring. I'm not crazy."
Yeah that would have been a good start
You realize when you say stuff like this people think you're crazy right? I get that you probably post in conspiracy but normal people think you have a few screws loose when you talk like this.
"This billionaire on his creepy island made a fourteen year old girl touch my feet" I think it's plenty of cause to, you know mention it to someone.
He probably would have mentioned it to family and friends, just like everyone else. Do you make a statement to the media everytime something is weird?
If that weirdness includes someone making a child give me a foot massage, I'd proooooobably tell someone, yeah.
Not great, but I can see if a weird billionaire says “hey are your feet tired? Our masseuse can give you a foot rub?” and a reasonable person would think it was weird but just roll with it.
Other people, no way, clearly pedophiles.
Why would a reasonable person think that getting a massage is weird, especially when you're on Luxury Island? Do reasonable people go to resorts, and when the concierge says that you can book a massage with their spa team immediate suspect trafficking?
Iunno. Maybe it's because I don't have any billionaire friends, but if someone invited me to their exclusive private island and offered a foot message from a young teenage/college aged girl whose clearly not a licensed masseuse while a portrait of Bill Clinton in a dress is staring me down from across the room, I'm pretty sure I'd politely decline and get the fuck off that island before they suggest a hunting excursion or some other weird shit.
Yeah it’s hard to imagine the mindset of what that’s even like.
from a young teenage/college aged girl whose clearly not a licensed masseuse
The problem is it's hard to tell teenage from college age, and why would it be clear she wasn't a licensed massage therapist? National certification only requires 750 hours of education. My local community college offers a certificate in a 1-year 36/37 credit program. Someone who graduates high school at 17 or 18 could be certified and licensed by 19 or 20.
Still fucking creepy.
Would you ever give a guy a foot massage?
Look, giving someone a foot rub and sticking your tongue in the holy of holiest aint the same fucking thang.
It's not, it's the same ball park.
Muddy Waters died in the early 80s, don’t think he’s listed
He was a money launderer. Thats why a lot of those celebrities were there. He's one of the best in the world at hiding money and has the CIA on his side.
Exactly. This was a BLACKMAIL operation. Epstein would get rich/famous/powerful people to his society parties on various pretenses. Then they're drunk and high and there are beautiful girls all around and one thing leads to another. It's not until the next morning that he springs the trap: "oh, by the way, that girl last night? She was 15, and I have it all on tape, so I own you now".
Even if you were careful and didn’t fuck anyone…
“They’re gonna think you did if I get caught, you better make sure I don’t get caught…”
I'm guessing if you do go there it at some point becomes apparent what is going on. So I kind of think everyone in this list sucks.
Same thing with cops. They keep their mouths shut when their colleagues are psychopaths. Thus they are all pieces of shit.
Found Matt Groenings alt acct.
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I'm gonna get absolute hell for this comment.
But I'm almost positive I've gotten a footrub from someone around that age.
It was in Thailand, I didn't know there were GIRLS working the massage place. I was with my wife, but it also wasn't sexual in any way, they just needed jobs I guess.
Absolute sicko.
I'm a menace
You could just not post this. No one ever looked good talking about the time they spent with girls in Thailand.
That's kinda a weird generalization you're making about Thai women. Ever stop to think that you might be the issue?
Yeah there are some fucking weirdos who go to Thailand to exploit women.
But it's also an entire country full of amazing people. And hanging out with people (which isn't what I did anyway) shouldn't carry some weird taboo.
I know specifically in this case I mentioned girls, but it actually doesn't matter, when I say I got a massage in Thailand people raise eyebrows and I have to explain myself, but when I say I got one in Sweden Noone thinks twice.
Also, for the record, there's a 17 year old girl working at the massage chain nearest to my house, I've never met her, but my wife tells me she's very professional and is in school for massage therapy. So... idk man, fuck off?
That's kinda a weird generalization you're making about Thai women. Ever stop to think that you might be the issue?
This mf'r just topd a story about getting foot rubs from underage children.
And hanging out with people (which isn't what I did anyway) shouldn't carry some weird taboo.
I know of some other things which arent a taboo in Thailand.
So do you think the Child in a Thai massage place was there on a school trip from the physical therapy school? Absolute nutter.
in school for massage therapy. So... idk man, fuck off?
Cant make this shit up. Wanna know who else was doing this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre
Great story, love it.
I've seen kids as young as 7 selling Candy on the streets of Thailand.
Maybe you don't know this but oftentimes it's not a choice between work and school, it's a choice between work and starvation...
But I can tell by everything else you've said that you haven't been more than 100 miles from your hometown.
Have fun with that
Dude just got a foot rub, from a Child, in the Thai massage parlor. Just a foot rub on the sex island. What the fuck.
You absolute savage!
Nah that’s weird as hell for a grown man to get a foot rub from a child under any circumstances.
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Indeed, I cannot imagine some of the names which are being linked to this actually being guilty. Someone like Gates undoubtedly has his faults but him being a pedo, that would truly shock me. Seems extremely out of character.
Some others on the other hand ..
Why use euphemisms in this situation? Who are we trying to protect?
Who’s using euphemisms?
Only a foot rub? Would you give another man a foot rub?
Which is why realistically this whole document probably means nothing. Names on paper aren’t proof of anything criminal, the chances this arrests and convicts anyone rich/powerful is practically zero.
Best we can hope for is public opinion on some of the shadier cases. Stop giving them money and electing them is something the public at large can try to do.
Exactly. There was probably some general business shit and possibly just making connections. But I do think within that was a blackmail operation.
There's probably a grooming period of trust building where no shady shit happens. If people went straight to the island and we're offered kids, red flags would go up and people would get paranoid.
That’s my impression too. Some people were invited to parties, would hang out. Some other took part in what can only be described by pedo/bdsm/ritual/sacrifices in a specific area of the island. The problem is figuring out who is who. Unfortunately, a rule of thumb is that the chances of being in the second group increases in proportion to how wealthy and well known you are. Why? Because according to testimony that’s how you get rich and fame, in these circles. Except for members of UK royalty of course.
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I’m not super rich, but my wife and I are lucky enough to have a third vehicle (a cargo van).
If one of my friends needs a car (like they were in an accident or the car is in the shop), I loan them my car, and drive my van around.
A few months ago, a friend moved, so I lent her my van for a few weeks.
I’m not even a rich person, and “lend out a vehicle to someone” is a thing I do; so it does make sense that the super wealthy do the same thing with airplanes.
Why is Bill Gates not in that category?
I dunno. I’m in the camp of thinking most conspiracy theory stuff is bullshit or at least wildly overstated.
He was also a top-level money launderer. This is most likely the reason for most of the people visiting him. Bill gates claimed he went there to talk philanthropy with epstein lol. No, he went there to hide his money. Deutche bank was being investigated for this. The judge who was appointed the case had an attempt on her life when she wasnt home. The attacker went for the judges husband and child.
Not everyone who went to that island was involved in the pedo shit.
Just the conservatives were pedos, and we're going to downvote and gaslight anyone who says differently. Great job LeReddit!
Yeah that's why everyone is champing at the bit to defend the Clintons.
Except actually almost no one is, people just love to say that shit when the reality is most people have said "If they were raping kids, let them rot in prison."
Not to mention one of the most frequent names on the list is Alan fucking Dershowitz.
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There isn’t some Reddit conspiracy to ignore Bill Clinton’s name. It’s just nobody gives a flying fuck about him. Investigate him, arrest him, jail him. None of us care. Vast majority of us want investigations into all these people, Clinton and Trump included.
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You're not even a good troll lol
Maybe if they stopped shagging kids people wouldn't think they were pedos idk
There’s a huge list with every Republican sex crime. The list is significantly longer than the Democrat one
And how many Republicans or Democrats have been convicted of or even prosecuted with the types of crimes we all believe went on at Epstein island and most of us believe happen in D.C.? If you believe in blackmail operations, then you should understand that for the most part the only people who will be going down are those who don't play ball, and they'll be taken down or taken out with the utmost of care to avoid compromising the operation. If you don't believe in blackmail operations, then you have no understanding of one of the primary purposes of intelligence agencies.
You’ve got it figured you; you’re 100% right.
I’m a liberal; the first time I voted, I voted for Clinton over Dole. I also voted for Hillary.
If either of them are guilty, send them to jail forever. I’m fine with that; that’s the way it should be.
In fact, if any democrat is guilty, send them to jail for life.
They don’t get a pass because they belong to my preferred party or ideology.
... Or bill gates? 😏
I mean why couldn't those people be into that shit or tricked into sleeping with a teenager on the island? I am sure scientists and astronauts know plenty of shit the government doesn't want leaked. So got to have something to hold over them.
And this is ultimately the problem with this list because it doesn't actually tell us if anyone committed a crime, it just raises our suspicions. Mindless people are just going to assume guilt at this point. Of course except in the case where they don't want to assume guilt, like to protect their favorite politician. Then all of a sudden "innocent until proven guilty" will be something required for public perception as well.
You think the hawk wasn't trying to get some underaged girls
Also rich people probably wanted to hang out with astronauts, too
None of the people you goofballs named are in the flight logs going to the island. This is all exactly why these sorts of records tend to get sealed in the first place ... lazy dopes like the thousands that upvoted this trash won't even realize these flight logs have been out since 2015 and don't mean shit when you actually look into 99% of them. The guys that DID go to the island are well known, but not names you all would recognize other than Prince Andrew ... and funny, where is HE in these logs? The ONE guy you all know went there, but he's not in the logs.
The reality here is that there were two private pilots. One kept good logs, the other didn't. Again, we've known this for years. Every single one of you in this thread should be ashamed of yourselves for how gullible you are.
I didn’t upvote shit, and I pointed out something that is tangential at best to your rant. Stephen Hawking visited the island.
This guy fucks
I do. Sometimes. Been a bit of dry spell to be honest.
Sorry, I meant Stephen Hawking but was too lazy to edit. Was busy fucking (my life over). Then again… your screen name deserves second consideration.
I mean Epstein got rich from a simple extortion scam.
I can easily believe most of the people who went to his parties weren't looking to for pedo shit, but someone who Epstein dangled a $1M grant in front of being told to show up to this party to talk about it. Maybe some of them fell for his trap (thinking the 16 yr old must have been at least 18, especially as they were initiating everything), while others just got a $1M grant for their research/charitable foundation.
John Glenn was HYPER FAMOUS and powerful in the 1960s. He was seriously seen as a presidential contender and was long-serving senator.
He also was hyper Christian and purposely cultivated a super clean boyscout/ family man image. Go figure.
He was a Senator.
Rich people invite famous but not rich people as trophies.
Oof, there are a lot of schools named after John Glenn.
I don't think it was always about money but power and extortion.
"Astronaut".. 😂🤣
I don’t understand what you’re laughing at
Probably a flat earther
Sadly people in this day and age still believe we never sent humans into space.
You're in a conspiracy sub.
My friend, you've alot more surprises waiting for you!
You'll realise when it's your time! 😉
Thats the best you could come up with? I see you have oatmeal for a brain. Got it.
John Glenn is not on there as an astronaut, he was Senator from Ohio for 25 years helping Wexner, Wexner helping him.
That had to get something on him to keep him quiet about crater earth and / or aliens.
WOW!
I always knew he was the 1st American to oribit the Earth, but I had no idea he traveled to Uranus.
I have always suspected all those Epstein photos were a form of blackmail. Take a photo with him at a party and years later you're known as associating with him, whether or not you knew what he was up to. Not to say Glenn didn't know, that's not information I am privy to. Bill G. must have known.
um in addition to being an astronaut, John Glenn was a US Senator.
Some heroes are just paper heroes
John Glenn was a US Senator from Ohio from 1974-1999.
there's probably the investment VIPs, the investment wannabees, and the talent for whom he invited to fill out the VIP image. I think it was in a MF doc where at one point he basically said, "don't talk to me about money unless you've got a billion ready for me"
Trump is on p. 470
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I have never heard that. Other than Epstein donating to democrats I have never seen or heard of any Epstein-Biden connection
That’s because he’s making it up
Trump or family named: Must just be a connection to them, not actually Trump.
Biden not named: ThEy MuSt hAvE dOcToReD It!
People in this sub are very right leaning and anti Democrat, not surprised by these mental gymnastics.
Uh what? He was downvoted and his comment was removed. One doofus doesn't mean the whole place is like that
Joe’s brother owns the island right next to Epstein’s…
And I live next to a convicted drug dealer, your point?
There’s a little bit of a difference between living next to someone and owning an island hundreds of feet away… but if you have doubts about his pedo connections I have evidence to prove so.
Why didn’t you post the pedo connections then? You still need a burden of proof in both cases
I’ll DM you the picture later today
What?! No don’t send me that, send it to the police.
Edit. He sent it, 4chan meme. I might write an email to the fbi since apparently this is proof that Brandon is a predator
I ain’t getting tied up in this shit! No thank you, I choose life 😂
I’ll give it to you and you can take it to the police
"I've got a girlfriend but she goes to another school"
I’ll send it to you too if you’d like, this evening*
Sure
Lmao Jesus Christ. Yea the judge left trump in but scrubbed Biden. Ok
hahahahaha y'all really can't just swallow the truth ever can you?
lol jesus. fix your brain
I love how you people can absolve Trump from the same things that you are accusing others of. Oh and daddy trump couldn't possibly be at fault, it's Joe Biden! Wtf are you smoking.
Did you read what it says about Trump? It's about 13 questions that all exonerate him. The interviewer was asking questions and the answer was always 'no'.
It's crazy all the smoobtbrain lemmings that come out of the woodwork to defend trump when he had undeniable ties to Epstein.
it's crazy how people will point at 13 questions as evidence when the answer to all questions was "I met him once but I didn't see him with any girls, nor did I hear of him doing anything with any girls".
Daddy Trump is innocent and don't you forget it. I came to that conclusion by forgoing any evidence I used to accuse the rest of illegal activity.
Or maybe they had nothing to do with him?
Weird right.
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Maybe, but that is not proof that he did. A lawsuit that was dropped twice by an unnamed accuser both times leading up to an election? Come on. Even if Trump is an establishment swamp guy just like any Democrat or Republican, you are sullying yourself by asserting he did that without solid proof. What if you are wrong? It is wrong to falsely accuse someone of something even if they are a bad person.
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Nope. That says it was filed in April of 2016. The election took place Nov 8th 2016.
Fuck off, clown
Of course they were scrubbed! Can’t have certain people turn up in them, can we?
They were absolutely sanitized before publication.
Source: trust me bro
Their brain doesn't allow them to just see facts. "Someones name isn't on it so they must be hiding it". How can one me so voluntarily ignorant?
The fact it doesn't align with their thinking is just further evidence of the conspiracy lol.
Also, these flight logs have been out for a long time now, there is nothing new here.
Pedo island doesn’t have a landing strip, no flight logs will show anyone flying to the island because it’s literally impossible. All of these flights are going other places.
My source is I made it up
…by OP. How do we know this is the real list?
Honestly I expected more dirt than I found on Trump after all the fuss in the media.
That one flight with Trump on it was from 1996. Epstein didn't buy the island until 1998.
We already knew Trump flew on his airplane once to get from Palm Beach International to Newark. That isn't new info.
He flew on it before anyone even knew about Epstein or what he was into. Once Trump found out, he kicked him out of his resort.
Focus on the people that actually visited the island...especially those who continued to visit AFTER Epstein was arrested the first time.
Try harder.
Your TDS is showing.
I was simply stating which page his name was mentioned
Once Trump found out, he kicked him out of his resort.
So... Trump knew about Epstein and didn't do anything about it? 4 years as president and he just let Epstein keep fucking children?
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Even if he did kick him out, it could've been a business clash, nothing more. Either way, Trump had to have known something sketchy was going on and HE STILL DID NOTHING.
Are you telling me the guy who bragged about "grabbing women by the pussy" and had multiple sexual assault allegations against him didn't do anything about pedophiles and rapists? I'm absolutely shocked.
Child “beauty pageants” as well. Who the fuck goes to a child beauty pageant let alone host one in a random Eastern European country
Not only that, but his business partner for those child beauty pageants was John Casablancas who is a convicted human trafficker and pedophile (and dad of "The Strokes" frontman Julian Casablancas). Trump sure does have a lot of convicted pedophile and human trafficker colleagues...
Trump was the only person in the area that cooperated with the prosecution during the original Epstein case in Florida. Public knowledge.
Trump’s collaboration with the FBI in the early , first investigation into Epstein is a matter of record. Easily searchable
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Would “cooperation” (with the FBI investigation of Epstein) be a better word for you?
I imagine a link would be better.
Epstein was arrested in 2005 and served jail time. Every human who could read "knew about Epstein" for almost 2 decades.
He wasn't arrested again until July 2019.
Epstein was arrested in 2019. You're not clever
Oh so he just knew about it and told nobody then
Except for his department of justice, which is why Epstein was charged with federal crimes in 2019.
Except for actually locking him up - yeah, he didn't do much.
And helping the prosecution during the Florida investigation before that. Prosecutor noted that of all the people that called, DJT was the only one who helped out without a lawyer and was very forthcoming.
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Not due to Trump's personal push, though. Why did Trump never do anything about it as president?
Your TDS is showing.
Literally you
Cope
We talking about the Trump that owned a teen beauty pageant?
The one that said
I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
Comment from 2002. That means his relationship with Epstein began in 1987
Lol, you’re the one getting upset at someone who literally only said that Trump was mentioned on a specific page of the document. Like, it’s a a fact. It’s in there.
We need to realize that TDS is a spectrum disorder, and you can have it at either extreme.
You seem to be only one with a trump derangement syndrome, here.
Um wut?
I’m afraid it’s not that simple, here’s a reasonable timeline:
1997: Epstein's plane flight log with Trump. And recently released logs showing another six additional flights, including a then infant, Tiffany, and Eric.
1999: Epstein's formalized child sex-trafficking efforts are believed to begin in earnest.
1999: A 16 year old Virginia Roberts Giuffre, the primary plaintiff in the Epstein case, is recruited by Epstein's partner Ghislaine Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago.
2000: Epstein also flew on Trump's plane (Trump has his own plane, so he didn’t need to hitch a ride as often as others).
As described by a reporter apparently on the plane as well:
"[Epstein and Maxwell] did board with a young woman of indeterminate age. I wouldn’t be able to tell if she was 15 or 20. She was quite dressed up and quite made up, so it was hard to tell...At the time I didn’t even know who Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were, so when they got on I thought, Maybe they’re married and that’s their niece.”
2002: Trump lauds Epstein on stage at an event specifically for his penchant for young women, saying “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
2004: Trump and Epstein have a falling out over a mansion foreclosure, during which they attempt to sabotage each others' bids.
November 2004: Two weeks after the mansion is sold, an anonymous tip is fielded about Epstein's criminal activities. It is suspected, but not known, that Trump is involved in this tip.
2005: Formal Criminal investigation into Epstein's activities begins.
2006: Palm Beach Police formally recommend charges against Epstein on four counts of unlawful sex with minors.
2007(???): Epstein is barred from Mar-a-Lago.
October 2007: NY Post first reports that Trump has barred Epstein from Mar-a-Lago.
2010: Epstein plead the Fifth when asked by a lawyer representing one of Epstein's victims about his relationship with Trump:
Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?
A. What do you mean by "personal relationship," sir?
Q. Have you socialized with him?A. Yes, sir.
Q. Yes?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.
Trump allowed Epstein a membership at Mar-a-Lago when he knew or should have known he was involved in child sex trafficking that included recruiting of a 16 year-old girl at Mar-a-Lago seven years earlier.
Which ones are going to the island because the rest are trivial
Most of these flights are not to the island
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Basically all of Epstein’s flights were in or out of PBI
Seeing John Glenn is disappointing
Hate to break it to you bud, NASA was created and led by Nazis thanks to operation paper clip. Shouldn’t be surprised by any shitty thing those people do.
Silly logic.
Christ, this discussion is about as productive as watching 6 year olds debate whose dad is stronger
What do you expect from this sub anymore? Half of it is refugees from the_donald who just needed somewhere that wouldn't ban them for their uneducated and shitty opinions.
I mean just because someone is shitty in one way doesn't mean you can expect them to be shitty in every way. I hate nazis but in all my education i never learned they were pedos
Uh, okay? By this logic everyone who uses a public roadway is a piece of shit because the government made the road and the government has Nazis in it
No that's not quite how things work.
Seems like a bit of a non-sequitur
Your mom is on page 69.
John Roberts the Fox News host? Man, he should have just stayed in Toronto and played music videos and interviewed musicians. He'd probably be an exec at CTV by now and earning fat stacks.
No. The Supreme Court Justice, John Roberts.
Same guy that gave the elites unlimited power and from buying out our public servants to privates servants? Then it's safe to say that no one is going to jail coz elites take care of themselves specially with these kind of power. The real loser here is regular folks like us. If they can't prosecute Norfolk Southern coz they lobbied their way for power, then it's the same for this.
Which should be bigger news than she if these others.
Why not supreme court john Roberts?
pg 138 for donald trump
That's literally an unrelated headline that got caught in a screen grab off a news website.
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Prince Andrew p. 488
Is that the only explanation? Really?
NOOOO not John Glenn😭. I’m taking down my astronauts poster with him on it.
EDIT: it’s likely he didn’t do anything wrong, but it was still unwise of him to spend time with Jeff.
John roberts the judge ?
John Glenn? Damn it
Trump said he was there already
I feel like the list of politicians that didn’t go to the island would be smaller
John Roberts as in the SUPREME COURT JUSTICE?!
Donald Trump lmao
Is that Fox News John Roberts or Supreme Court John Roberts?
Go look for names of people associated to child charity. You'll find like 5 of them. CEO's of nickelodeon etc too
I find it interesting that they were clearly steering her to only give up certain names, while other names were kept secret. This feels like a purge of undesirable upper class families to me.
Have any of these people been asked on video why they were on his plane?
It looks like Trump's on 470 was from Palm Beach to Newark. Does anyone have a list of the ones who went specifically to the island?
bruh. it's the same story for bill gates and everyone else.
I'm so confused as to how you read this. I just see a bunch of numbers. I don't see anyones names.
Page 420 for Don Keedik
Has he ever denied being in the plane? I know he admitted to having lunch with him
They were hanging out so much that Epstein was giving gates marital advice
"marital advice"
Epstein "put some zing in your reletionship with your wife BY FUCKING THIS 12 YO"
bill gates: "err.."
Dinners. Multiple dinners.
p569 *
Nice
Niiice.
No wait, not nice.
great,, nothing like some no context information to make the fucktard couch lawyers have another excuse to not wipe their asses and rub themselves on everyone.
Doesn't show he went to the island. It looks like he flew in his jet from FL to NJ, once.
This. On his flight logs does not mean they absconded to pedo island. Epsteins whole schtick was currying favor with the rich and powerful, so of course there’s going to be a lot of noteworthy people who flew on his jet or got his picture taken with him.
tHe gOoD bIlLiOnAiRe Bill Gates.
Ask him on his next AMA what’s there.
Bitch tits bill likes kids after all. I would give my left nut to see hi rot in prison.
pg 675 George Mitchell
I am guessing it is George John Mitchell, but there is no answer to the follow-up question and we jump from page 17 to 85. Why are there missing pages?
Any idea how many flights he made?
One. And it wasn't to the island.
and then Melinda divorced him
I dont understand this epsteins stuff, does that mean that he went to an island to fuck a kid?
Where do you see that? I went to page 568-9 (out of 2024 pages on the pdf) and it's just a bunch of gibberish.
How to tell who flew to the island vs who went from NY to FL?
The island wasn't the only pedophile location.
Palm Beach was a big hub for em too
I don’t think they had to go on the island. The crime was committed in the air. I.e look at the pictures that leaked with kids sitting on Epstein lap and stuff.
They were in the airplane. Epstein would pickup his customers at the airport with the kids in it and the clients would fly around doing their thing.
It ain't called "Lolita Island" for nothing.
Yeah, what I’m saying this that the crime happened in the air and on the island as well.
That’s why these people would book his personal private jet…
Ah, I misread your first sentence, sorry.
This is more important than people want to give credit for.
Everyone hates pedos so much we never stop to think about the possibility of some of these dudes legit just being a tangential associate taking a plan ride from one city to the other. We can’t be quick to prosecute
Why would you charter a jet? From one city to another when you own a few jets yourself ?
More importantly, why would you charter a jet, that isn’t a modern or luxurious as yours. Look at the jets they owned Vs epsteins.
You mean to tell me Clinton, trump and prince didn't/had no access to their own jet? Noooooo. Let's call ol epstein up and ask for a lift. Make it make sense.
The Clintons never owned their own jet. They travel the same way the Reagans did, hitching along on the jets of their rich friends.
Trump did own his own jet during the years he was besties with Epstein.
If it wasnt so awful, id say thats some next level fake taxi bullshit
Weren’t the pilots already questioned? Had thought they mentioned a few they saw on flights. But said they didn’t see anything happen on the flights. Of course, they would be sitting up front out of view.
Tripmantics
Some of the flight logs are before 1998. Epstein didn’t buy island until 1998. Construction didn’t begin until a few years later.
And just think, the FBI has all the film from the island. Cameras in every room including the bathrooms.
Chris Wray is a POS
People forget everything so easily. The island was clearly emptied before the FBI raid. Some dude with a drone documented everything. FBI raid happened like 5 days after he died and everything was already gone by then. The dude even recorded footage of a guy stepping out of a car that looked like Epstein... Like a lot. Do none of you remember this?
Do you have a source for this or are you just spitball guessing here?
Literally just Google "fbi epstein film." Agents have testified in open court to what they've seized.
That’s an unsubstantiated rabbit hole and a call to action… not a source.
The more I dig into the whole Epstein thing, the more I realize how much unsubstantiated bullshit is spewed on the topic.
Of course.
“My enemy is actually a pedophile” is a very effective weapon.
Blood libel has been popular for thousands of years
And it’s certainly not slowing down ‘round these parts.
Literally just Google "flat earth proof".
Isn't it the opposite? I seem to remember news stories on how Epstein associates went through the island and mansion before the FBI got there, and how there was obviously equipment taken (like, empty square in the dust on the computer desk with a bunch of computer cables leading to it). I wouldn't trust any 'evidence' left further than I could throw it.
When you have the money to run your own sex island, with the purpose of capturing incriminating video and then using it as leverage, you most definitely have a crash plan for when you get arrested, and it most definitely includes leaving some low-hanging fruit for the agencies to crow over. You include the people you don't like, exclude the people who can help you get out of jail, worry the people who could hurt your chances of getting out of jail (that's why we got the news of multiple pinhole cameras in every room of his mansion, to scare anyone who thought it would just be flight logs that could associate them), leave some false flags or misleading info to fake the agencies out of following the trail, and end it with a few unfortunate sacrificial goats that everyone can fixate on.
The truth is there's a network of these, and the people at the top weren't the ones rich enough to own a sex island, they're the ones rich enough to call one their home and rule it like a king. One day soon, a chatgpt clone will be powerful enough to roll a full historical comparison of global pictures from every set of satellites available and identify the fiefdom islands that are now being automatically removed from current imaging. The digitization of the 60's era CIA spyplane footage is going to help immensely with comparison. There's only so much you can get to before it's released to a FOI request, and it just takes one missed U2 photo to reveal their little hideaway.
Anyways, I'm off topic. The FBI footage will be enjoyable Schadenfreude, but it's not going to do anything to the international sex ring other than give them something else to jerk off to.
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Actually I’ve been reading books and the FBI has been doing this for decades.
SS: The Epstein court docs are out. It’s 2024 pages so alot to read through and find. So far go to page 464 for flight logs. That's what gathered so far. Please make copies if this does get taken down. To save
Top right -> Original Document (PDF) -> Download (3rd from top right)
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471-Epstein-Docs
So far we have from the pages that people have gone through in the comments.
Pg. 464 flight logs start it seems
I'll update the thread when gone through more
Edit: pg 568 or page 569 for bill gates info
pg 562 for John Roberts
Donald Trump on page 470 flight #934. Also pg 138 for donald trump
President bill Clinton #519
Prince Andrew having sexual relations with Jane Doe #3 on page 154.
544 and 468- Alan Dershowitz
Pg 544 for Larry Summers
Page 522 Kevin spacey
Page 468 John Clenn
Pg 488 prince andrew with Steve Burgess (his security detail)
Pg 533- Forrest Sawyer
Pg 549- Walter Cronkite
Pg 547- Prince Andrew
Pg 531 & 542 Larry Summers
Pg 543- Sandy Berger
UPDATE : I just want to Reiterate that I'm trying to compile an accurate list of the pages so if entries get removed and added it's because I'm going through comments and confirming if the people are on those pages.
For anyone asking about the Biden thing the entry has been removed after checking the pages that was posted in the comments.
I just want to thank you everyone going through and providing page numbers in the comments for information.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471-Epstein-Docs
Pages 490 to 519 are the same as pages 4 to 73 in the documents that have been released earlier.
This entire document was released in 2019 and has been at the same URL the whole time.
You know. This makes sense. Everyone uses some form of digital application for their work. Its how the world works. On random websites there are no doubt classified documents that would cause chaos now that i think about it. Just sitting there. Nobody noticing.
The documents have different evidence names tho.
Sounds like a cover up!
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There we go an avatar in a skin suit telling me there’s nothing to see here. It’s 2023 we can see you demons now.
Can I be a demon too?
If you want to be you can be anything you want in this life. It’s good to have goals.
Assassand I just realized this thread is in /r/conspiracy
Yeah, with all the down votes I’m getting for my comment. It’s hard to believe we’re in a conspiracy sub. But we are all the down votes tells me I’m on to something.
Trumps flight went from Palm Beach to Newark.
Bill gates Teterboro (NJ) to Palm Beach.
Haven’t we known this for a while?
We’ve also known that his island doesn’t have a landing strip, so there are zero flight logs showing anyone flying to the island.
Of course they don’t have landing strips they’re kids for Christ sake!
Ill see you in hell, because this shit made me lose it lol, ffs, this is an angry upvote
This might be my favorite comment in years of reddit
Of course they don’t have landing strips they’re kids for Christ sake!
Agreed, wouldn't they be mostly hardwood floors??
Your comment really makes me miss free awards
If there’s grass on the runway you can land your plane!
I can't upvote you because your upvotes are currently 69.
Don't present facts and reason to the tin foil hat wearers.
I bet a bunch of people are going to be wrongfully accused by this .doc.
Epstein offered up his plane to a lot of people 'cuz he liked hob knobbing with powerful people. Flying on his plane isn't the same as going to the island or having sex with minors.
Epstein offered up his plane to a lot of people 'cuz he liked hob knobbing with powerful people. Flying on his plane isn't the same as going to the island or having sex with minors.
He might also have considered it insurance that if he went down a lot of people would be associated with him. Looks like, if that were the case, it backfired and he got suicided instead.
If I had ever been on Epstein’s plane, I would’ve immediately contacted the FBI after he was exposed as a child sex trafficker and let them know about every interaction and meeting I ever had with the guy. No way I would let someone blackmail me with that info if my actions were truly innocent. I wonder if anyone in these flight logs did that..
If I had ever been on Epstein’s plane, I would’ve immediately contacted the FBI after he was exposed as a child sex trafficker and let them know about every interaction and meeting I ever had with the guy.
And any lawyer would tell you not to do that. Don't talk to the police. Yes, even if you're innocent. Talking to LE without legal counsel, especially if they haven't contacted you first, is a great way to end up getting found guilty for something you haven't done.
Well, yeah. Do it with a lawyer.
But hiding your connection to Epstein doesn’t look a whole lot better for you
No need to hide anything. Just celebrate shut-the-fuck-up-Friday 7 days a week.
Imagine this situation: one of your co-workers or neighbors gets arrested, for dealing pills out of his home, maybe. Would it behoove you in any way to go down to the police station and let them know about every interaction and meeting you ever had with the guy?
Dealing drugs? No. Dealing underage sex slaves? Absofuckinlutely
I'm pretty sure There is no quicker way for the cops to think that you're diddling kids short of writing a song about it....but. You do you, I guess.
If it helps even one less kid getting sex trafficked It would be worth it
Essentially it will be "everyone I think is a bad guy, this is evidence he's a bad guy. Anyone I like, I'll explain how just being on the plane doesn't really mean anything."
And I'll be honest, I'm doing the same thing. "oh Kevin Spacey, yah. Tracks. Oh John Glenn, well I'm sure he just needed to go give a speech somewhere and he was offered a free flight."
Like they've been doing to explain away Trump's close friendship with Epstein since day one.
Don't private jets regularly get rented out by their owners to whoever has the cash?
Yes, and a lot of billionaires also loan them out to their friends without expecting gas money. I don't imagine he was renting it out to Clinton, for example. More like enjoying the power trip of chauffeuring an ex-president around.
Makes sense
The secret service called it the "lolita express" and it was known to have... Young flight attendants. So being on the plane isn't innocent either.
Being on the plane can still be innocent... he invited a fuckload of people on that plane for a multitude of reasons, there absolutely is a list of names that flew on that plane and were not complicit in all the underage shit.
Epstein hiring underage women to staff his jet does not automatically make you guilty just for riding on said jet. You don't staff the plane, he does, with his staff without telling you.
You guys are trying real hard to convince people that it isnt a big deal to have your name on that ledger. Trying real hard to say its not a big deal you flew on epsteins plane multiple times.
Sussy balls
Because it's not a big deal for literally every single name on the list. For some names, ya they did fucked up shit, but a decent amount of the names are inevitably going to be innocent people caught in the crossfire. Just because you traveled on the plane on Wednesday does not mean you're guilty or complicit of the things he may have used the plane for on Saturday.
You've bought products from Nestle, an extremely shitty company, yet you're still innocent.
You've bought gasoline from BP before, and despite their environmental disaster of a spill, you're still innocent.
A corporation doing terrible shit and still having not-terrible customers is no different than Epstein doing terrible shit and still having some not-terrible friends. Most normal people don't even know the majority of the shit their friends go about doing in their private life, let alone celebrities.
This dude’s name is on the list.
Confirmed.
Not a good look defending a child sex trafficking predator and claiming there is "innocence" involved, but you do you
Not defending Epstein at all. I'm defending the group of names that are innocent and merely got caught in the crossfire as a result of having rode on a plane without knowing all the sick shit the plane was being used for on other days.
It's naive as fuck to think nothing bad happened on that plane, but it's just as stupid to think that the plane wasn't also used for some completely innocent travels.
Jet fuel isn't free and Epstein had a reputation amongst the elites of the world. Using the plane supported Epstein which is far from innocent. Don't confuse complicity for innocence
Does that make me complicit for every person's car I've been in because petrol isn't free?
Did you pay for the jet fuel of a known child sex trafficker? Also the fuel was not what made them complicit. The fact that flying a jet is far from free so either they had business with him or they paid up for the trip. That would indeed make them complicit as again, his business was sex trafficking.
Jet-fuel is expensive, yes, but you're missing the part where the rich people aren't paying for all of their shit. The biggest hurdle in private flying is getting the plane itself, not the fuel, because the FAA helps subsidize private flights.
And where does the FAA get the funds to subsidize it? That's right, the taxes we all pay when taking commercial flights. You're literally helping fund these billionaires' private flights when you fly commercially.
The odds are pretty high that the majority of the people on that plane didn't pay a cent to get on it.
Despite our shared reliance on critical resources like the Air Traffic Control (ATC) system, commercial airlines pay 95% of all taxes to the Federal Aviation Administration’s trust fund, totaling $14.85 billion of the $15 billion collected last year. Meanwhile, private and corporate jets use 15.6% of ATC resources but pay only 1.55% of all taxes into the trust fund. In effect, regular commercial fliers are subsidizing private jets to the tune of more than $1 billion a year.
Consider the costs of a flight from New York to Los Angeles. A CEO in a private jet will pay a paltry $525 in fuel taxes, according to a review by Bloomberg, while commercial passengers traveling the same route would be on the hook for $3,900. That’s because the private jet is only charged the fuel tax, while the commercial flier has to pay the fuel tax, passenger fee, excise tax, and other taxes and fees. By the time both land, the private jet owner will owe 87% less in taxes for the same cross-country flight.
Look shiny object over here!! Look look! Cool dude, they still rode the private jet of a known child sex trafficker but keep going off queen. I'll get you a shovel too. Everyone can be innocent! Even the elite who systematically steal from us, use us, abuse us, and traffic our children. Keep defending those freaks all you want. I'm out
they still rode the private jet of a known child sex trafficker but keep going off queen.
But he wasn't a known child sex trafficker until his first conviction in 2008. There were no charges filed until 2006.
My litmus test is anyone who hung out with him after 2006/2008.
30 rock had a joke about this. Alex Baldwin’s character says he ‘knows what happens on Bill Clinton’s private jet, there are no seats, only futons and jacuzzis’
It was just light pedophilia?
Would you please knock it off with your common sense and facts
You're right that it isn't "proof" of any specific behavior, but it definitely doesn't inspire confidence in one's morality if they hang out with someone convicted of procuring a child for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute (14yr old). So anyone taking flights or favors after 2008 would have known exactly what Epstein was about. Anyone after 2005 would have likely known about it.
Anyone taking favors/gifts from him post 2008 deserves the questions about their behavior with a convicted child sex trafficker.
There’s a landing strip on the St. Thomas island which is right by.
Maybe search the nearby airports?
“Cyril E King” Airport seems the closest
Sure, go ahead
Also, this is just people who used his plane. This plane was loaned or rented to people who weren't involved with anything. They just needed a plane. Also, Epstein gave a lot to charities and flew people to meet him for donations. In other words, the flight logs prove absolutely nothing.
I'd say a flight or two proves nothing/not much. 27 flights from Bubba is kinda hard to explain though.
The plane was essentially a pedo island flying in the air.
Not trying to prove anything. Just elaborating on the info available.
There’s a helicopter pad though
Yes but that would not share flight logs with his private plane.
They can’t land on a strip nearby and transfer to a helicopter?
They could, do they? Not sure. My point is just that the info everyone is gushing over right now is the same info we’ve had for years at this point. If someone wants to narrow down the log to only people that flew to nearby islands, I’m sure that would be a better use of everyone’s time. But as of now, people just keep listing names that appear anywhere on any of the flight logs insinuating that they all visited the island, which is a huge assumption.
I’ve seen the island in person on a vacation to St John. It’s small and only small yachts and supply ships can really get to it. The only plane would be some sort of seaplane.
According to the NYT, they flew to St Thomas International then took a helicopter to his island. So, any flight to St Thomas should be proof positive that the people on the log went to Epstein Island. Source.
His private plane would fly him to St. Thomas’s international airport, where he would board a helicopter that whisked him to his Little St. James and Great St. James islands.
So who is putting together that list? Seems more productive than just posting every name that appears on any flight log for his plane.
Lol- Idk that's all I care about too and, like most people, don't have the time or patience to sort through thousands of pages to figure it out rn.
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So these flight logs mean nothing I guess.
What does that mean?
Wasn't to the island of horrors.
So bill gates isn’t a blood sucking shapeshifter???
Not human blood anyway.
No, just my ex. Har har
The airport is actually called Teterboro, but I guess we could entertain a change of name to Toterboro.
Mr. Gates, you are cleared for departure!
Typo
OK so he flew to Typoboro, whatever
Underrated DE comment
Well that’s important information.
I don’t think they had to go on the island. The crime was committed in the air. I.e look at the pictures that leaked with kids sitting on Epstein lap and stuff.
They were in the airplane. Epstein would pickup his customers at the airport with the kids in it and the clients would fly around doing their thing.
Their*
Walter Cronkite? When was that? Dude had to be in his 80s (born 1916)
Not all of them were probably engaged in sex stuff. At the end of the day, Epstein was rich and powerful, and sometimes Rich and powerful people to spend their time together. Is all for clout and connection.
He lived until 2009. He also has a son and grandson named Walter, but the son, at least, is called Chip.
What page do the names start?
Page 464. Flight Logs!
Pg. 464 flight logs
Look for names that went to island but never flew back!!
I thought the island doesn’t have a landing strip? I don’t think there are any flight logs showing anyone flying to the island for that reason.
Yeah you're right there landing strip, but did have a submarine dock look at the island though you don't think they did sacrifices you think it was just rape or you think they killed maybe hunted kids you know sky's the limit with these fucking weirdos
Murder Pedo Island? That's a new twist!
Well depending on the interpretation, I like that island much more
You think a billionaire would risk fucking up to that extent? Nahh they wouldn't have been in the flight log to begin with.
I don’t think they had to go on the island. The crime was committed in the air. I.e look at the pictures that leaked with kids sitting on Epstein lap and stuff.
They were in the airplane. Epstein would pickup his customers at the airport with the kids in it and the clients would fly around doing there thing.
Victims have testified and given interviews to the effect that stuff did happen at Epstein's homes. But not just the island: his many other homes as well.
Frankly, I'd imagine there were crimes committed in New York or Palm Springs, just because Epstein spent more time there than on the island.
Same thought. If it is as wild as some think this is a good possibility.
Hey Terry why did you add Joe Biden to your list in multiple places if he never appears on any of those pages? What's with the bullshit
'1 female', '2 females' - the girls they trafficked were like luggage or pets
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What page is the "place of employment" info?
The continue from pg 1921 to 1922. Seems she was "a millionaire's personal masseuse for 4 years" (paraphrase) and the response to that statement is "that doesn't align with the record Marlago provided us on your employment" (paraphrase)
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I think the millionaire she's referring to in this context is Epstein. This is also about a time frame roughly 20 years ago and trump was already publicly proclaiming he was a billionaire by then (true or not).
So if I'm reading this correctly she was working at Trump's Marlago and was there recruited to simultaneously be epstein's personal masseuse (thru the club?? unclear)
So if I'm reading this correctly she was working at Trump's Marlago and was there recruited to simultaneously be epstein's personal masseuse (thru the club?? unclear)
That's where Virginia Roberts has said she was recruited.
Trump a bad bad dude. Orange too. Donald Trump. drool
Well yes, but unironically.
So, Naomi and Heidi went as costumers or "atractions"?
Virginia mentions in her deposition on page 1932 she met Naomi at her bday party in the south of France as she was a friend of Ghislaine. No mention of meeting her elsewhere.
She mentions she met Heidi klum but doesn’t specify where.
Well, I guess it would be nice if I could touch your body I know not everybody has got a body like you - Sen George Michael
George Michael was never associated with Epstein!
He wasn't a senator either..
Wake up sheeple! Everyone really knows he was a “Manager” and has been known to use the title of “Mr. Manager”
Just say manager
Good grief, I’m just going to lay on the floor
That doesn't mean he managed to get elected to a government office.
That's were Virginia G. worked when JE groomed her, her story is well known (the most well known of all the girls)
It's well known in Florida that Mar-a-Lago was used as a recruiting place for women and girls involved with Epstein and other associates of Trump. There is a whole dormitory where "servants" stay that most of the regular staff isn't allowed to go to...
You got a source for that? I've honestly never heard that
See, that’s the cool part about Epstein, you can just make up whatever you want as long as it sounds plausible.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/20/the-foreign-workers-of-mar-a-lago
talks about the foreign workers area and how it's off limits
There's absolutely nothing in that article about living quarters.
I'm sorry if I missed it, but I don't see anything in that article that says that they live in a separate dorm that's off limits in that article
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/09/epstein-mar-a-lago-trump-1456221
"Giuffre said she was working as a spa attendant at Mar-a-Lago in 2000 when she was approached by Epstein’s longtime friend Ghislaine Maxwell about giving massages to the wealthy investor, who owned a mansion in Palm Beach not far from the Trump resort."
JE groomed one girl that worked there (VG). The rest is speculation but I'm sure he tried with many others all over.
It's well known in Florida that Mar-a-Lago was used as a recruiting place for women and girls involved with Epstein and other associates of Trump.
This was true, up until Trump and Epstein fell out over a real estate deal (curiously, their last known conversation was only a few weeks before someone sent in the first anonymous tip about Epstein and young girls.)
There is a whole dormitory where "servants" stay that most of the regular staff isn't allowed to go to...
Never heard this.
Isn't Mar-a-Lago named dropped twice? Further up in pages?
I need to look at this on a laptop and not a phone screen.
I don’t see Biden’s name on either page 470 or 519, am I missing something?
His name isn't mentioned anywhere in the document. Just CTRL+F
You can’t control F on certain pdf files, you actually have to read the whole thing for yourself.
You live in the year 2023
Laughs in a PDF viewer with OCR
https://media.giphy.com/media/1zRd5ZNo0s6kLPifL1/giphy.gif
Open up that pdf and try it. It's gonna change your life.
I just CTRL+F'd it.
Didn't see Biden's name on those pages either. Hopefully not OP's attempt to spread misinformation.
OP has now edited the comment and removed Biden’s name. Odd that it was added in the first place with multiple page references, and then removed once people noticed he wasn’t actually on any of them
It’s a conspiracy within the conspiracy
The real conspiracy is in the comments!
The real conspiracy was the friends we made along the way.
*commentspiracy
stops pushing a narrative to wipe the sweat from his brow
It's ain't easy, but it's honest work. I can't prove it. You'll just have to trust me.
Like a donut
We need to go deeper.
I mean, false accusations of being on Epstein's flight list are definitely being used as political attacks.
Remember the pedophile speaker of the house who only got in trouble for withdrawing too much money at once? It was to pay off one of his victims, but the problem was he didn't follow banking regulations.
Why'd his bank allow him to break the law if it was illegal in the first place to just withdrawal that much I have no idea. It happened though.
Ever since then, "No. You're a pedophile," has been part of the political discourse in America.
So, it’s not illegal to withdraw a lot of money at once. It’s your money; you’re allowed to do what you want with it.
The bank’s job isn’t to enforce the regulations. The bank literally doesn’t have the power to refuse to give you your money. That would be theft, on the bank’s part.
When you withdraw a large amount of money, the bank gives you the money as well as a form to fill out. If you don’t fill out the form, that’s on you, not the bank.
"A frequently cited limit on the most cash you can withdraw at any one time is $10,000. However, the reality is that withdrawals of $10,000 or greater are allowed, but they will trigger federal government reporting requirements."
"[Dennis Hastert], was indicted Thursday by a federal grand jury on charges that he violated banking laws."
Yep, that’s what I said.
It’s not illegal to withdraw over $10k, but it triggers reporting laws (that’s the form they hand you, it’s called Form 8300).
You can take any amount of money from your own bank account, whenever you want to. You need to fill out the form, and not filling out the form is a crime.
"A doughnut hole in the doughnut's hole. But we must look a little closer. And when we do, we see that the doughnut hole has a hole in its center - it is not a doughnut hole at all but a smaller doughnut with its own hole, and our doughnut is not whole at all!
Maybe the real conspiracy was the friends we made along the way
and op phrased it as “entry has been removed” leaving it ambiguous as referring to him removing the pages from his comment or if someone removed entries from the log. lol.
Ding ding ding!! As if "they" removed it and not that it was never on the list in the first place.
This is /r/conspiracy , its (((they))) not "they".
Weird. I don’t want to trust any of this now. Is there another source putting this out or has someone confirmed this matches the original document? I’m just coming to this so am unaware of the expected source.
Damn you people fall for this shit so easily. Hook line sinker.
pretty sure OP was taking info from other people and maybe didn't fact check the doc before posting and adding to the chaos.
Probably so Drudge could link to it and then claim plausible deniability.
You’re soooooo close!
They probably changed the name to Blden -similar to how they slightly edit the fisa? which document did they do that, where it was CIinton and James corny.
I think he clarified that he’s going through what people are saying, adding them, then confirming if they’re accurate. He should probably switch those last two steps, lol
More fun for everyone here to do it in that obviously incorrect order
Bridgetriptrapper, pg 408
Trust and spread misinfo. If time, correct misinfo later.
Had a good chuckle about this.
Take a quick peak as their comment history, and I think you'll get the answers you're looking for.
He's just taking comments as true until verified or not. Someone (looks at the subreddit) is trying to spread misinformation.
I also do not see his name on those pages
You're not missing anything. Biden didn't go in spite of republicans yelling he is a kiddy diddler for years. We all knew Trump went though. Plenty of photos and evidence that he's a pedo even though his cultists don't want to believe it.
I don't remember any accusations of Biden being associated with Epstein. Heck, maybe they kept it within the family. There is plenty of video evidence of Biden touching and sniffing little girls and laptop evidence of Hunter and his niece.
Biden showered with his daughter when she felt she was too old to do so.
It was there, but the lizard people embedded at the dnc are purging sensitive names from all copies of the documents while we're reading them
Maybe he never went???
OP had originally listed him as being recorded in the logs on both of those pages. My comment was in response to that
Ya, you're missing out on the tin foil hat train
Neither do I. Wrong pages maybe?
yeah because he wasn't cool enough to be invited to the rituals
Media literacy mostly
It’s a figure of speech. His name is not on those pages nor any others, unless your keen eye can spot something I can’t?
So what you're saying is that his name in fact is on those pages. Prove it then, Mr. I-dont-know-what-media-literacy-means
I just want to Reiterate that I'm trying to compile an accurate list of the pages so if entries get removed and added it's because I'm going through comments and confirming if the people are on those pages. That's why the Biden entry was removed
Mind if we ask how it ended up there in the first place?
Is there a list elsewhere you were copying off of that you didn't have time to check, or....?
Hey, Biden is just as bright and just as talented as other white politicians
Did anyone check to make sure he's not listed as Pedo Pete or The Big Guy?
Maybe I'm missing something but on the pages where you mentioned Biden I can only see trump and clinton. Perhaps you misread this comment chain? https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/11212j2/the_epstein_court_documents_have_just_been/j8hsmq2/
edit: OP has removed mention of Biden which they added in error.
I have updated the list. I just want to Reiterate that I'm trying to compile an accurate list of the pages so if entries get removed and added it's because I'm going through comments and confirming if the people are on those pages. That's why the Biden entry was removed
But why was it added in the first place?
misread this comment chain
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/11212j2/the_epstein_court_documents_have_just_been/j8hsmq2/
So on a conspiracy subreddit. You did not bother to follow the document and just assumed he was in there because someone said so? Ummm lol
What a douche, Bidens name was never in these documents. But I guess he succeeded because his name is all over this thread now.
This is why half the conspiracy nuts never get taken seriously, they get so hellbent on a belief, they ignore actual research. OP had the damn document link there and still followed John doe in the comment thread lmao. Summarised r/conspiracy in less than 1 thread.
Biden on CSPAN touching those kids weird and you still run to defend him lol. Yes I'm sure you'd get 18 upvotes bashing conspiracy in it's own Reddit. Not suspicious or anything.
We are literally talking about how OP just threw Biden's name onto his "accurate" list when it didn't exist. No need to make more conspiracies.
Cope and seethe.
What a creepy comment on reference to Biden touching kids weird on C-SPAN 🧐
Don’t worry, it’ll be gospel here tomorrow that Biden was on the plane.
Lots of critical thinkers here
Didn’t take two seconds to confirm, then edits to make it sound like he was shadily removed. Bad faith poster.
The post should be left up and OP banned for misinformation. This shit is how we got the Boston Bomber wrong and if anyone is ever going to take this sub seriously there needs to be standards for claims.
Why did you not verify?
You also lied and said this document had 'just been released' when it's been out for years.
What's your game here?
I did not see Prince Andrew on page 154, only a defender attorney. Can you elaborate on that or am I dumb?
Additionally, what would this document officially be called?
Prince Andrew having sexual relations with Jane Doe #3 on page 154.
And Alan Dershowitz on the same page.
I'm not law-talking-guy so I don't know how this works, but on the page everything is stated as fact (at least as far as that page is concerned). Does that mean it's been determined to be true in a court of law, or does it just mean this is what someone (presumably Jane Doe #3) has stated under oath?
Its that what they stated under oath.
Biden isn't on this list
If he isn't on the list it will just turn into "he was removed and protected by the deepstate with hunter's laptop... Benghazi."
Don't worry, we won't hear the end of everyone that is "missing" from the list from everyone that hates a particular group/party/person. Should be fun!
Biden?
The op is lying for some reason.
The op is lying for some reason.
Take a look at his post history and it'll make sense.
Casually mention Biden to stir shit up. Get called out, remove it but some people already read that so it’ll become a new new conspiracy.
Look at how they cleverly used "they" when talking about removing Biden as well. That's not ambiguous at all.
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“Some reason”
I think the reason is clear.
I just want to Reiterate that I'm trying to compile an accurate list of the pages so if entries get removed and added it's because I'm going through comments and confirming if the people are on those pages. That's why the Biden entry was removed
If you’re trying to compile an “accurate” list, where did Biden come from?
There is alot of comments with people posting page numbers. I apologize. I have removed that entry
You expected his name to be there and didn't bother to verify.
That is not an attack. Just an illustration of how misinformation spreads.
He doesn’t appear on any page whatsoever — so you citing two different page numbers and then just removing him without a single mention of it is how misinformation is born.
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised from someone in r/conspiracy.
It sounds like someone told OP that Bidens name appeared on two pages and updated. Upon verification and finding that his name wasn’t there, they removed it.
Why add it without verifying first?
Because op is a trumpet and this is r/conspiracy no one checks facts before bold proclamations if it fits their narrative already.
Yep.
Fits narrative? "Yep, seems correct, verifying it is a waste of time."
Doesn't fit narrative? "I'm going to scour the internet for any sign of proof. Even then the proof has to be bulletproof or I might ignore it anyway."
“Stop lobbing factual statements at me as if they’re insults!”
Okay, so maybe accuracy wasn't that important.
Not buying it. Why’d you literally lie and make up something that wasn’t there.
I don’t even trust your link now.
You just believe anything? Your post history makes it clear why.
You could have looked for yourself easily before putting that info out.
Jesus fucking Christ, did you freebase paint chips as a kid or something?
I'd ask if you had any idea of the shit storm that you just created by posting and then removing his name, but you clearly already knew that when you did it, and this hiding behind "sorry, people were commenting a lot of names and page numbers, I didn't get to check" bullshit is embarrassing. If you posted anyone's name without checking first, it's because you wanted to.
So now you're checking first before you add the name, even if you want it to be true?
Confirm your shit before posting it
I would like to also point out that being on his plane isn't proof a person did anything wrong. He often gave famous influential people free use of his plane. He did this hoping they'd help protect him as they'd not want to look bad by association. And it wasn't widely know for years what he was doing.
Only people that made multiple trips to his private islands can really be considered as 'busted' here.
That’s what conspiracy theorists do. They lie when the “evidence” doesn’t confirm their beliefs
Oops! Someone got tricked
Is it really a trick if that's what you wanted all along?
Why wouldn’t he? He palled around with clintons and trumps.
He swore himself in on the book of child molesters and still attends service with the invisible friend in the sky lunies that harbor rapists.
Which flight was he on? I don't see his name on either page
Points for creativity.
Did Q send you?
Redditors really have a talent for being the most annoying atheists imaginable
Desantis?
^why ^are ^you ^saying ^random ^names?
He wanted more than the scent of shampoo I guess
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Thank You! I'm reading this thread and wondering why everyone is getting so excited about stuff that has been publicly available for years. I'm sure there is some new stuff in this drop, but I doubt it is any kind of revelation.
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LOL. Bitch made. You don't like the info I added, say so ... don't lie about BS rule violations ... a violation that if you consistently applied, would kill this entire thread.
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Conveniently, after being called out, the comment has been edited to remove Biden.
But why tf was he listed, with page numbers, in the first place? Did OP take someone else's word for it, or did OP intentionally make it up from the start?
Conveniently, after being called out, the comment has been edited to remove Biden.
Let's not shame someone for this, thats what you SHOULD do when someone points out you're wrong.
Asking why it happened in the first place is valid tho
Just check the OP’s history and it’s not hard to understand why.
OP thinks that celebs are satanists who bathe in blood and that Pfizer is a satanic organization. Also spreads antivaxx propaganda.
I don't expect the guy who posted this first to be totally normal FWIW
Still, guy at least walked back bad statements.
Im assuming his antisatan friends said that and he realized it was wrong but that's just my Occam's razor
I still haven't seen a proper walk-back. The wording of the correction, "the entry has been removed", leaves open the possibility that they removed the name from their list only because the name was removed from the document. There are already people here claiming confusion over exactly that.
He’s probably a dumb fucking mouth breather who thought he was being slick
This is r/conspiracy after all, mouth-breather central
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He went back and edited again to add the bit about Biden.
For anyone asking about the Biden thing the entry has been removed after checking the pages
I think we'd all quite like to know why it was in there in the first place.
CTRL+F before supporting wild accusations.
675 George Mitchell
Pg 531 & 542 Larry Summers
didn't notice the story was strange? this is so fucked
John Glenn, not Clenn right?
For anyone asking about the Biden thing the entry has been removed after checking the pages that was posted in the comments.
Even this reads like you’re saying the entry was removed from the documents, not that you outright lied in your initial post. Can’t just own it and say you removed it from the post because he was never mentioned?
Why are you acting like this is breaking news when this document was made public in 2019?
This was all released in August 2019. Here is an article from then describing the release and linking directly to this document.
saved document to my archive and website. there is no distraction big enough to keep this out of publics hands.
Which flights are going to his island, those are the only ones that matter
420 for Don Keedik?
Lmao I hope you’re trolling otherwise that’s pretty good
Upload the file to archive.org
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PBI is Palm Beach International Airport in West Palm Beach, Florida.
PBI is palm beach dumbass, people like you start misinformation.
Yea just like op who completely made up biden being on the list.
The island has no airport...
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Yes! We will look at the docs regardless
The flight log information isn't new at all, I don't know why you're being downvoted.
Also if people don't understand how to read the flight logs, they'll misconstrue a lot of information on there about the different planes Jeffrey Epstein owned and who flew on what.
G1159B is the smaller Gulfstream plane that Donald Trump flew on to catch a ride back home to New York by catching a ride back with Epstein from Florida to NJ and it was the only instance IIRC.
The infamous Lolita Express was a much larger 727(B-727-32) that flew down to the Virgin Island's, and went to his island from there and that's the one Clinton flew on frequently.
It's not terribly hard as it is time consuming to compile a list of the 727 flights, match the airport location acronyms to the proper island landing locations and get a proper deciphered flight log list.
Edit: Clarity, and to mention, the 727 list is the one to focus on as that was the "Lolita Express Plane", that was alleged to have younger women/minors on board.
TY!
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Very true idk why people keep saying they flew there.
The Virgin Island's Cyril E. King Airport is where he'd fly down iirc to go to his island afterwards. And he would take his 727 around the world for that matter as well. It's not out of the imagination he could have been helicoptered and or boated into his private island. But the thick of it all was that the plane was dubbed the Lolita Express and had young women on that particular plane.
The infamous Lolita Express was a much larger 727(B-727-32) that flew down to the Virgin Island's, and went to his island from there and that's the one Clinton flew on frequently.
Are you saying that Clinton was on any flights that went to the Cyril E. King Airport (CEKA or STT)? The flight logs show Clinton going to Europe and Africa, but I don't see them going to CEKA or STT.
Separate bits of information packed into the statement, not to have meant one in the same.
Sorry my shits all garbled as of lately.
The main allusion was that Clinton was on the 727 which allegedly had young girls and what not on it hence the name, Lolita Express. Clinton's logs did indeed show him going to other countries. And people found it extremely alarming he was logged to be on that plane numerous times. Anyone else who flew on the plane could be included on the pedo suspect list.
We knew Jeffrey Epstein owned an Island and there's been numerous allegations of young girls and what not being on the island as well, as far as people who've visited the island, the moving bull, alleged underground tunnels which have been filled in. A lot of it is speculation and hearsay.
I'm more concerned with those who have been implicated by girls that were trafficked by Epstein and Maxwell. I don't believe that everyone who stepped on that plane was a pedo, but I do believe those girls who were trafficked.
Also, some of the flight logs are before 1998. Epstein didn’t buy island until 1998. Construction didn’t begin until a few years later.
If a rich guy invites me to his island I'd probably go.
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Or he’s not in these documents and it’s a lie. Please show where he is mentioned. Again, OP is lying about that.
His name isnt anywhere on the pages OP mentioned
Did he not have a child or a grandchild die at a really young age?
If so I can see a sentimentality/cherish these angels sort of angle which is much sadder and human than he's just some old creep.
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Does that logic also apply to the others on the list, or is that different?
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That's a tweet, nobody needs that crap. In what pages in the released documents are the names of the pedos?
Read the Submission Statement.
Starts at Pg. 464
You edited your SS, it had a link to a dumb tweet before. Those flight logs had been leaked before, anything new?
In trying to post the most accurate and up to date information. That's why I removed the tweet. The docs are new. The documents are over 2000 pages long so it will take some time to go through. If those were leaked last year, and everyone said they were fake why are they showing up in the documents now?. If those are the same flight logs that were leaked last year, and everyone said they were fake if there showing up in the document guess they weren't fake. I am only one person. I wish I could read 2000 pages in seconds but I can't so will update the thread and I am going through them now.
Trying to post the most accurate info but also blatantly lying. Cool story.
But muh agendas!!!
Chill out, I just said that your original SS is just a link to a dumb tweet. And the flight logs were leaked before, I never said they were fake. Stop being aggro, jeez.
You act like you have zero clue how to find things yourself. You also act like you have no patient. That’s how an inexperienced person react.
Calm your tits
The Bidens own property on an island “next door.” There have been many posts over the years claiming both Pedo Pete and Hunter would just come over on boat.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-does-not-own-island-i/fact-check-joe-biden-does-not-own-island-in-the-u-s-virgin-islands-idUSKCN24G29L
Joe Biden doesn’t own it. That’s all it confirms. The article you’re mentioning even references the land deal from the brother and doesn’t dismiss it as false
lol what.. It says his brother bought and almost immediately sold a property in the virgin islands in 2005.
Learn to read instead of spreading random bullshit. There's shady shit to look at especially with his brother and Hillstone International etc.. But this isn't it.
nah you made that shit up.
Look it up they definitely have a Virgin Islands compound
nope, you made that shit up. confirmed by your "uh look it up because I dont actually have any evidence" bs. fake.
Walter Cronkite? JFC
Naomi Campbell?? weird.
She was noted on page 1932 that she had a party in the south of France for her bday. Virginia notes in her depo that NC was friends with Ghislaine.
guess i got my night reading
The only airports nearby Epstein island that are large enough to handle the lolita express are cyril saint Thomas- designated by (STR)
The other us terrace British Columbia... (YXT)
John Roberts….makes a lot of sense now.
Why did you afford Clinton the title president, Andrew the title Prince, but not Trump the title president? Out of curiosity
So let's... let's lock em all up? Or at least investigate the everloving fuck out of them. No sides, no politics, crimes get investigated if they're guilty then they go away forever.
We've had the flight logs for years already.
Some of the flight logs are before 1998? Epstein didn’t buy island until 1998. Construction didn’t begin until a few years later.
Anyone found bobby kotick yet?
Can anyone make out the name on the log before "CUOMO" on page 549???
So in the logs when it says "2 females, 1 female," etc., am I right in assuming that means the passengers were underage and not required to have their names cited?
Technically none of them were required to be listed. Epstein used two pilots, one of which used the logs. It's thanks to him we have the list.
I thought all flights are required to have a passenger manifest.
All airlines require passenger manifests. All private aircraft flying international(incoming or outgoing) require passenger manifests.
Private aircraft flying domestic do not require passenger manifests.
49 U.S. Code § 44909
There are no age specifics.
If you had to guess why certain people are referred to as "female" and others by their actual names on the same flights what do you think the reason would be? Laziness in not bothering to get specific names on a packed flight, or intentionally not named?
Rather then guess I'll just reference his testimony.
Logging the names of all passengers on Epstein's private flights was not a priority, but they tried their best to be accurate, Visoski said. For international flights, he had to report an accurate passenger log, he said. If he didn't know a passenger's name, he'd notate the passenger by their gender, he said.
Thanks for finding that
That's pretty dark if true
You think these sex trafficked girls had names to these sick fucks? I bet they were just referred to by numbers or something in person.
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brother this is the shit that hurts actual efforts against human trafficking
This again?
sad but true
No, not true.
Color coded wrist bands. I'm not kidding.
how do you know this ?
Why would you assume that? Think real hard.
What?
If you had trouble reading and understanding those 2 sentences, surely you're not going to understand anything else I write.
I'm asking what the fuck your point is
My point is very simple. You have NO reason to make that assumption. It's transparently ridiculous begging of the question.
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Not necessarily.
I am commander Shepard and this is my favourite post on reddit
Shepard.
Wrex.
I should go.
We’ll bang, ok?
https://youtu.be/GRgr4HK16aA
https://youtu.be/ZYT66ALUUss
Wreck in efx
Commander Shepard
Todd, is that you?!
Todd the wraith
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No, what makes you think that?!
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Come on, buddy. Are you awake today or what?
Shepard Commander
468- Alan Dershowitz
He's all over the place on the logs, little weasel
What tribe is he from?
he was on the defense team for OJ, Weinstein, Trump, and Epstein just to name a few
Bat Mitzvahs on Epstein's island intensifying
Fuck these filthy paedos
That's the directive that was given to the girls for sure.
Epstein did not kill himself.
He’s not even dead
yep that whole "epstein didn't kill himself" meme that got weirdly popular among the public for like a month was actually just viral tactics to subvert the idea that he actually isn't dead. Fixate people on the theory that he didn't commit suicide and they won't backtrack to wonder whether he is even dead in the first place. All part of Epstein's government certified escape route if shit hit the fan in the undercover op.
We know
He is “alive and well”
Epstein, Epstein, Epstein... Maxwell was the real ringleader. Epstein was a schoolteacher before he was discovered, Maxwell's family has deep political and intelligence agency ties. He's been suicided, she's alive.
Epstein is like the fake appendage on a lizard, he gets bitten off and eaten, but the beast lives on.
I wonder how many names were removed
The unknown Prime Minister’s name was removed. It actually looks like a ton of information was removed. Some pages start mid sentence, some names are intentionally spelled wrong to avoid being searched, the documents are all over the place
More than likely Tony Blair or John Major given the timeline of years.
My bet is Tom Blair. He had more years in power and John Major is hard to visualise on a beach or near teenage girls.
The most important ones
trump, clinton and bill gates are on it. why would anyone get removed at that point?
Bingo.
Anything truly telling would have been taken out.
I didn't see any!
Look through it. Seems like none.
Download this and share!!!
Casual half Gigabyte PDF
The Report on the Biden Laptop by Marco Polo can be found on Archive.org if anyone interested
That "report" is so laughable that it isn't funny, ironically. Overly-biased language before evidence and conclusions are drawn, spelling errors, just... jesus christ.
So trumps on the logs multiple times - “Quick! Let’s swing it to Biden”.
Trump fucks children. Confirmed. Sorry bro. He’s as sick as we’ve said he was.
Off topic
No one is
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Ask you you shall receive!
https://archive.org/details/report-on-the-biden-laptop/mode/1up
This is my first time doing a deep dive on the laptop but had to stop after a few pages. The language is so obviously biased…saying how Biden is implicated before it even presents any evidence.
And good rule of thumb to not have typos if you want to be taken seriously
It doesn't matter cause 90% of people who would be interested in this are only interested because they're right-wing fanatics who only want "proof" that they are right. Doesn't matter if it's credible or not.
There is a reason for this. Go to report publisher’s website at marcopolousa.org look at the rest of the crap on there and make a choice on if you think the stuff is not biased.
After looking at the site It’s easy to completely disregarded the “report” as a biased political tool. Everything I read on the website is completely contrived at best and overtly biased in everything else, and I actually pulled this report off the website it was not a dead link before. This lends to the credibility of the whole thing being a tool to influence public opinion instead of doing what an actual academic report should do.
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Dude that's not how evidence works. If you are making claims, you need to back them up, even if the target of your claims is a PoS.
"Hitler was an alien child rapist who ate puppies on pineapple pizza!"
"Uhm, source?"
"Stop defending Hitler!!!!:(:(:("
Extraordinary claims deserve extraordinary evidence…this had nothing I could read in an unbiased way, so can’t trust it.
It’s your choice
I see what your saying, maybe the content is that disgusting?
I've no idea, just giving ya a lil devil's advocate
Try reading the first two ages and tell me that reads like a researched opinion
Who wrote this garbage? This looks like the alien site I made on Geocities in middle school but I think my report had fewer typos
Did an angry child write this? It's laughably terrible!
Where did this information come from? Looks like a deranged Trump supporter wrote it.
That's because one did lol.
Could be don’t know but it’s out there. The original info came from Biden laptop. Just sayin
Just sayin’ that you have no idea what’s going on but are desperate to clutch at some conspiracy theory?
What sub are you in?
t_d
Hunter finally said the laptop is his dum dum. Grown men and women have conspired to do things since the beginning of time. The term "conspiracy theory" itself comes from the Warren commission which we all know were lies too.
The term "conspiracy theory" itself comes from the Warren commission
Nope.
FFS, that is simple to debunk.
While true the phrase had been uttered before, it didn't enter the cultural lexicon as a go to political term until the WC.
Bud, it's used once in the Warren commission.
K?
Hunter finally said the laptop is his dum dum
Where did he say that?
Hey I didn’t loose the laptop I just said where you all could find some info. Don’t hate the messenger hate the message!
Bro come on.
It most certainly is "out there".
As a non-American I have limited interest in Hunter Biden or his laptop, so I only read a few paragraphs here and there, but it's extremely obvious that this is a hack piece. Some notes:
Marco Polo is obviously not a neutral or reputable research group. Their previous pieces include "A Plandemic with Chinese Characteristics" which is exactly what you think it is, with "evidence" consisting mainly of a collage of memes and scary-sounding news headlines.
The introduction of the report brings up a bunch of completely unrelated events (with conspicuous focus on democrats) such as Clinton's email server. It's clear that this is not just a report into Hunter Biden, it's part of a campaign to portray a much wider narrative
Throughout the report, the use of language is not merely used to convey information but to constantly and heavily editorialize. The author makes less than zero effort to keep their personal opinions and judgments out of the report.
Tons of unprofessional material throughout, such as repeatedly using an image of what I assume are a drug addict's teeth to censor nudity.
I jumped to the sex trafficking section which appeared (from the titles) to be the most serious accusations. It seems to consist of... Hunter Biden using adult webcam sites and hiring prostitutes. The implication, presumably, being that some sex workers are sex trafficked and therefore Hunter is a sex trafficker? This is a huge leap of logic that no serious report would make. After scrolling through several pages of vulgar-but-consensual material I decided to spare my eyes further punishment and gave up.
On page 226, while describing Hunter talking to a camgirl: "[Biden] subsequently turned around to take a hit of crack cocaine" with no explanation of how the investigator knew that he did that. I don't really have a point here, I just thought it was pretty funny
In summary: I can't comment on the veracity of anything in the report, but certainly the source and the way it's presented makes it very obvious that it's intended to be propaganda. Are any of the serious accusations true? I don't know. But this report is so absurdly unprofessional that it can't be taken seriously as a piece of evidence.
No offense but as an American I really don’t care about your opinion. Your entitled to yours and I am to mine so let’s just leave it there and get along.
It's also ridiculous
Absolutely not downloading a file that large and besides a lot of people know however we can’t and won’t do shit about it which is the unfortunate reality
It's great to have the guest list of a billionaire's resort island home but Maxwell's confession and testimony is where the real evidence will be.
She either has nothing to disclose or has chosen to not disclose it.
Her day in court is over.
That's true, her trial is over. But she never revealed who any customers were. How can you be guilty of selling kids if there was no one you sold to?
She was found guilty of sex trafficking. Here are the charges
Maxwell was convicted of conspiracy to entice a minor to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, conspiracy to transport a minor with the intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, transporting a minor with the intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors and sex trafficking of minors.
There is no need to prove who the "client" was.
I am inclined to believe she had no hard evidence, documents/pictures, of who the clients were. She knew names, but that becomes hearsay.
Of course this is /r/conspiracy, so I doubt the facts are overly important.
The flight log and guest lists are hearsay. IF Jeffery was procuring young children for sex with older paying customers, it would be sweet if someone would tell us what their names were. Jeff won't be revealing any names and it appears neither will Maxwell. Too bad really. We really wanted to know who was raping the children but you win a few, lose a few I guess.
Hearsay is along the line of "I heard it from ...."
The flight logs aren't hearsay. They are evidence. Of course they could be challenged like any evidence.
Evidence of flying on his plane isn't evidence that they had sex with kids. Maxwell is the key. But truthfully, we know whoever it was who went there for kid sex, our justice department doesn't have the juice to prosecute.
Maxwell has already been tried and convicted. Her best opportunity to confess and testify has come and gone.
I'm not a lawyer but aren't all trial testimonies and all the stenographer stuff available to the public?
Unless they're sealed and unless the public doesn't want to spend the dough to get it transcribed from the court reporter. The courts don't hand out free copies just because you want one. They're available but you pay the fee. Generally, news outfits buy and publish the transcripts.
Prepare to never hear of it again and the people on that list to face no consequences whatsoever .
Knowing this sub? We won’t stop hearing about it for decades.
*won't stop hearing about specific people for decades, but others won't be mentioned again.
A 5th train will derail and another shooting will occur somewhere else in the week and all the attention will be diverted. As is America now.
Panama papers 2: electric b...ooh look some new scandal!
Its up to us..
Kind of like the Panama Papers.
Just like a man that brags about sexually assaulting women, and talks about how hot his daughter is and how much he loves watching girls change at pageants gets to be the nominee of the Republican Party and President! Consequences? Nahhh not if the Conservative Elite want to defend you.
couldn't agree more.
Just like the panama papers
Not defending anyone, but being on the island itself is not a crime. Any famous person who went there will just say that the went for the connections and the vip event away from everyone.
The stigma however is a different thing. Unless charges are filed with evidence or victims, it's just not going to be the thing we hoped it to be.
If I heard twenty years later, that a guy whom I spent time with on his private island was trafficking children, I'd drop everything I'm currently holding and run to the next police station to tell them everything I know. I'd call my colleagues and pressure them into testifying. I'd use any public channel to keep the public eye on this story.
These people all have millions sitting in their bank account. What exactly do they have to lose? Money? Fuck that. It's about children. The next children could be yours.
Ok good, I would probably do the same, but again, being on the private property of someone doesn't automatically translate into being convicted of doing something wrong. I wish it were, but it simply isn't. And if you go around saying Gates / Trump / anyone who's been on the island is a pedophile without proof you will find yourself in legal trouble. Let's pin something onto them and then it will pass.
If you were there, you have the duty to speak up.
If you don't, you are complicit.
I don't think you are seeing what I mean. Most of the events on the island didn't involve public orgies with underage trafficked children. When Epstein used to throw a party, inviting high profile rich people, it was mostly for socializing. The dark stuff happened away from public (invitees) and not during high profile events. What will you report? The food was cold and the drinks were warm?
Page 1654 and on are more flight logs. I'm just skipping to various points atm.
Took what? 4 years?
This entire document was released the day Epstein died so OP is really just full of baloney.
Waiting Bill Gates do to a new AMA here so we can show him the page 568. He will never be out on public again. Also that's the reason his wife has left him.
There are two page 568 in the docs. One talks about Ron, the other is some redacted medical report. Is it me or are these docs not very searchable?
His wife lEfT him to dump stock without crashing the price
Lol, nobody believes that
What?
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He'll leave the public to create fake meat and eat bug culture.
He also wants a smaller earth population
And he fucks young kids
He had his cleaner arrested for CP meanwhile it was on Bills laptop.
I'm Bill Gates, partaker of Epstein's goods. AMA.
Commenting for traction. Words here and stuff.
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I'm coming out as a redditor to my parents today
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I accidentally came out to my husbands family at Christmas.
Good luck, hope it goes smoothly ⛵️
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Lmao, this!
They are making Earth into one big plastic balloon and peasants are blaming them selfs
Is t that just the docs we have had for years (the logs)
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This is the exact photo we had. I have it saved on my iCloud.
They declassified the names. They were originally blacked out.
No the photos in the page op posted were certainly not. They have been on this sub for a while.
Where is Steven Hawking?!
He's dead so probably in the ground
He's cruising around in a shiny new cyborg body watching a black hole up close with some Zeta Reticulans or something, somewhere, if there's any justice at all in this universe :P
justice on the cosmic scale is the heat death of the universe
Lol
He's star dust by now, bro.
Now we’re talking! This is what gonna cause even more distractions, the MSM will not want to talk about this.
If you said “So it begins” I would’ve had bingo with your comment. Fuck, so close!
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Probably aliens/interdimensionals will do
Especially if they have boobs, even more so if they're as I've always imagined.
Three boobs
Beer, not milk.
Whoa what has this conversation turned to. Should have marked it NSFW.🤣
Veritas? JFC
You guys are getting so annoying about this distraction thing. You realise two things can happen at once without it being manufactured to take all your attention away from something else? The news moves fast enough that it would be pointless to even work on distractions.
Also, I missed these aliens. If we make contact with aliens I somehow won't think it was done to distract us.
Fuck you no it can’t. Everything is planned and prepared to the T but also our government is so inept and useless too.
Don’t you know that! Shill bot. Piece of shit
Fuck off, people only can pay attention to one thing at a time. Dont you know that hey a tennis ball
It's not that it's manufactured event's. The point is that media will shift focus towards things they do not want people focusing on.
Media puts out whatever draws views and gains max advertising dollars.
The media shifts focus like a goldfish with ADD even when there's nothing to distract from is his point
That hasn’t been demonstrated in the USA. The media is always focused on what the majority of Americans are paying attention to. The Ohio train derailment is incredibly compelling but the majority of Americans don’t care about that
Thats adorable
This is the conspiracy subreddit. Are you new here?
Unless something else big happens, it’s probably to take heat off Biden for this Chinese spy balloon invasion stuff.
This is the distraction
Could be
The amount of normies that know and care about this convince me that it is
Ok bill gates and trump, anyone else people? Come on spill the tea
Alan Dershowitz
What a bombshell. THE Alan Dershowitz??
*President bill Clinton 519
And lots more after that. Dude had frequent flier miles
Was going to say, Clinton should be more than one page.
Dude Epistein had like 50 alternate contacts for Bill Clinton
Fourteen for trump, right?
Idk
Yeah - Clinton and Trump having repeated contact with Epstein is probably why neither party is doing anything about prosecuting Epstein's clients.
It's also probably why neither side is pointing the finger at the other.
They all just want it to go away.
And the thing that I find worst about all of this is that Epstein was basically just a pimp. The people who were using his services have likely just moved on to a different provider.
That's why it's so important to go after the client list, no matter who's on it.
Trump
Not sure how you think Trump is their friend.
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Yep, he cut ties with Epstein purely because he had problems with Epstein's practices, and not just because it wasn't good for him politically.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/politics/trump-epstein.html
Can somone point me to Bidens name or plane id on the flight logs. I didn't see the name on the pages mentioned 470 & 519
edit: thanks all
Ctrl+F shows no mention of Biden
OP lied about Biden being in there and had to edit their comment. Unreliable page list considering they didn’t even confirm before posting
He fixed his comment because Biden isn't in there. He said it was a mistake.
It's not in there
Ya know, we've had the flight list for a while. And Biden was on that list. So maybe he just went there once and not again. Or his name was removed.
Eminem and Courtney Cox were also on flight list, but idk if they were regular clients.
Do you have a source for that?
There were flight records I saw linked on Twitter long ago. I can try to find them.
If you're going to throw someone's name out, probably good to have something to back it up is all.
Oh yeah, I saw them before, months ago. I should've saved the Tweet. Trying to find them now.
I know this stuff linked here mentioned Naomi Campbell, who's good friends with Courtney Cox as well. But I'm still looking.
Are you talking about the fake excel 'screenshot' that showed only Hollywood celebrities that were critical of Trump lmao
It also showed writer Ralph Ellison, dead since 1994.
I pictured his skeleton propped up in a seat, with his hand wrapped around a drink.
If you could pull it up then I could tell you
But yeah it may be
Provide your sources or stfu.
I saw it somewhere, so yeah I'm gonna say it. If it's not true, it should be verifiably possible to debunk.
Here, it's just a list but I was reading the tweets and replies and multiple claim it's legit
https://twitter.com/UltramagaF/status/1597097138739376129?s=20
I read it on the internet so it must be true.
He's not in those papers. You can go through them, yourself. Plenty of people already have.
Please apply some common sense. Epstein bought the island in 1998. Ralph Ellison died in 1994. Was he exhumed and brought to the island, or did they perhaps contact him by Ouija board?
Miley Cyrus is on that list. Miley Cyrus was born in 1992. How old was she supposed to be when she visited the island?
EDIT: Jesus, it gets worse. Callum Hudson-Odoi is on that list. Callum Hudson-Odoi was born in the year 2000.
It wasn't excel
But is this what you're talking about?
https://twitter.com/UltramagaF/status/1597097138739376129?s=20
lmao Whoopi Goldberg
ahahahahaha
hey I found the one I saw
https://twitter.com/UltramagaF/status/1597097138739376129?s=20
That just looks like a list someone literally just typed up that contains everyone that person doesn't like. There's nothing very official looking about it.
Two words. Panama. Papers.
What percentage of visitors were there for pedophile shit?
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What are some legitimate reasons for taking a private flight to a private island where you can get away with raping children?
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2k people is a lot of points of failure for people with important reputations (though with the power to protect them). I assume the number engaging in the child rape is far lower than the total number of guests, yet far higher than one would hope.
Were there other methods of getting to the island? How big were these conferences and parties?
It wasn't publicly known before a certain point.
And Epstein was a notorious collector if famous people as well as a 'power broker' of influence and connections.
There's definitely people on that list who wanted to advance their careers or advocate for their various projects and lobby for connections, etc.
Whoevers on this list should burn.
I think it was a good question though. A friend of a friend once invited us to this rich guy’s house and we’d play video games, drink, bbq, swim, etc. at his. It was always a really good time hanging out with cool, interesting people. Then he fled the country over some white collar crime, but it turns out that on top of it all, he used to beat the shit out of his girlfriend and had been repeatedly raping one of his household staff amongst some other shit he did (i think distributing porn to minors was also something people who knew him mentioned). I had no idea he was such a scumbag and would’ve never even considered hanging out with him or anyone in his circle had I known the type of person he was. People can mask their shit really well sometimes and you can’t always know until it’s too late.
There should be a distinction between people who knowingly went to this place for nefarious purposes vs people who went for purely social reasons. I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
So far, apart from Epstein and Maxwell, who else do we have actual evidence or at least some corroboration of partaking in the fucked up shit that went on there?
I can only think of Prince Andrew but then again, I haven’t been following this very closely. Can someone list these folk out without just blanket condemnation?
Why bother? They're most likely all evil
Why bother listening to anyone on this sub. You’re all conspiracy nuts that are so far detached from reality. They’re all most likely deluded and/or crazy.
Basically the same reason ^ is not exactly an accurate representation of the people who participate here.
I mean, what do you want? Justice? Because if that is justice to you, you might as well throw all the black people in prison, kick out all the Hispanics, send all the Muslims to Guantanamo and take all the guns away, especially from those white people that keep shooting them schools up.
by saying that youll likely push people to dismiss the whole issue. imo its seriously unlikely everyone was there for dodgy shit. youd need to focus on the ones who are directly accused and have testimony against them. part of the reason there were so many guests is likely for this reason. its part of the cover story for the criminals that were there. makes it harder to single them out.
They 100% knew what went on and still visited. If they didnt want to be associated with it they should never have visited.
They all knew who Epstein was and shouldn’t have been hanging out with him period.
Yeah that’s not how it works
All. Of. Them.
Proof?
Source: trust me bro
Ah cool, reasonable facts, very good
69%
Nice
Depends on your view of bat mitzvahs
It's going to be a case of "no only the other team did that, our team was innocent"
No?
It's simply that this isn't evidence of any crime.
May make a warrant easier but i doubt it
If you visit a pedophile, you're a pedophile.
100.
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Just in case people are scrolling page by page just use the find option on the doc
Was oddly surprised about Chris tucker and Eminem
Tucker was famously on the Lolita Express with Epstein, Bill Clinton, and Kevin Spacey o a field trip to Africa.
Clinton and spacey are of absolutely no surprise, I hadn't heard about tucker before this
Not that Chris Tucker.
Which Chris tucker was it?
No way Eminem was doing any of that
Why not
That was my initial thought, I took him for someone who would be highly against that sort of shit
Damn, I bet whole fortunes were paid for just some pages to disappear
Any found Bill Clinton on the logs or anyone else notable beside trump and gates?
I saw president Bill Clinton on page 519. Although someone else commented that he had been on other flights as well.
If this doesn’t become top post of all time in this sub I’m calling bs
Been through almost all flight pages. Must say I’m surprised that neither Obama or Biden are on there
Surprised because you were led to believe they were pedophiles despite never showing any signs of it?
I mean Biden's definitely showed signs
I agree that there wasn’t any actual proof except for pictures together. But that counts for 99% of the people on here. Personally I never wanted to believe Obama was on there, even though I don’t agree with him politically. But Biden always gave me the creeps. So in that way surprised yeah. (Also musk not on there is also a surprise)
You're crazy if you think this hasnt been scrubbed
Somebody save this archive it!!
It’s in my Dropbox.
Reminder that using someone else's storage means the files aren't your own.
It's likely fine, but DB is absolutely not where you want to keep things as the main backup. Local storage is best.
May your soul rest in peace.
GloriousRoseBud didn't kill himself!!!
Herself & I didn’t! 😂
i find this comment hilarious
we have to hurry before the illuminati takes it down!! /s
Illuminati is old news the Inflationati have taken over.
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So this is what all the UFO stuff is supposed to distract us from
Maybe, but don’t you think the UFO stuff would happen today, not last week if it were the case.
Preemptive distraction. Just getting the people to focus elsewhere beforehand. Now the world is too occupied with the UFO stuff to focus on anything else.
Plus it takes a few days to get the world news onboard, so pretty smart starting it up a few days beforehand
Sorry, I’m not sure a preemptive distraction is a thing. It’s either a distraction or not. If I’m trying to pickpocket you I don’t distract you before I attempt the pickpocket. It’s simultaneous. Magicians don’t do distractions before their trick.
Can't really compare getting all the news sources around the world to to focus on one thing with pickpocketing.
When something happens, it takes a few days for the news to pick up on it. Just look at the UFO stuff, they just began talking about it in the news today in my country.
Maybe preemptive isn't the right word, but you should know what I mean. Gotta get the wheels spinning first ya know.
One of the balloons was shot down 15 km from my house on Sunday, everyone I know is already over it. If anything I could see it as a distraction from Ohio, which is worse than Chernobyl.
And now a new train has derailed with hazardous chemicals onboard, but that's all over the news. Why are they not trying to distract people from that one? The say it's just as bad, they're not even hiding the train crashes anymore
The one in Ohio is on the news too here
the Ohio one happened over a week and a half ago and received no attention. even the coverage now is not even close to the reality of the environmental damage done. this is all after the democrats killed the railway strike which had safety and regulations at its core.
I'm talking about the one today
I know, I was answering why the other one is a better candidate for distraction, because it’s very embarrassing.
/r/conspiracy on the top of all?
This gonna be good.
Surprised they aren't blacklisted from all honestly
Sometimes the algos slip up. Remember when the Donald dominate all out of the blue lol
Upvoted
And shared. And commented.
Hero
Any surprises?
John Glenn was an odd one for me.
He was a politician, not a saint.
One small step for a man, one giant leap backwards for society.
Most astronauts then were military flight bros. They may have been smart, but were pretty ego heavy testosterone oozing guys.
They were not the nerdy goody two shoes everyone wants them to be. They were space jocks.
Also, not everyone on the island was their for the girls. Rich people want to fuck kids and would love to party with astronauts
John Glenn is not on there as an astronaut, he was Senator from Ohio for 25 years helping Wexner, Wexner helping him.
NASA needs mosad levels of blackmail. No surprise to see an astronaut on that list.
Time for a ufo alien invasion
Why would aliens care
"Whoa! This Is Worthless" - the media
PAGE 1840....basically admits the "Government" (capital G?) knew all of this.
... AND that "they" blocked the "federal prosecution"....
...is there a collective Government that blocked a prosecution against some of its members.....was this a vote in a major branch that fully represents the statement and privilege to use the attribution of "the Government"......
No names. Who is this capital G?
Kind of an overreach for an unnamed group of Government individuals to block themselves from prosecution without naming themselves, especially when there is no record of a major branch vote....
What might this mean?
TLDR: The Government is not for the people and by the people if it allows any redaction to protect its elected people and if it allows any of its members to represent the entire body without consulting the entire body. It should be illegal to summarize by a group name in any legal proceeding instead of naming those individually elected and responsible for representation.
The way these fuckers work, something HUGE is about to happen to distract attention from this release.
The big brains at Reddit know the truth though!
Trains and balloons aint enough?
Coming Next: Flying trains with ballons spilling dangerous chemicals shot down by F22 on whitehouse order
MOASS
Fuck yeah!
Sorry but no gives a shit about the trains outside of the US
How about another mass shooting
Predicting a mass shooting in the US has been low hanging fruit for decades.
I know right . But guess what they were talking about on the news this morning .
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That's every other day in the US of A
Yeah? It is also breaking news.
When isn't there a shooting though
How do we know this isn’t the distraction and there’s something bigger they are covering up? Nothing is going to come out of this list going public. The court suddenly released it now for no reason.
Another 9/11?
They'll have to shut down NYSE to stop the MOASS lol
"Active Shooter" last night. Probably be another today. That's their go to move
Full scale war in Eastern Europe.
Trump will announce the Jewish space Lazer lady as his VP pick to distract everyone
lmao
Is this even new?
How do you distract from something you can pull up at any time from anywhere? Nothing will make this go away.
Nothing will happen
Something tells me this is what the "UFOs" were distracting you from lol.
ufo's, train derailments
The flight logs have been out for a long time.
Not in this capacity.
Donald Trump on page 470 flight #934
"Great guy. Liked them young."
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Who said that? Trump and Epstein were friends until an incident at Mar-a-Lago took place. Trump admitted this.
Stop making this a partisan issue.
His crazy supporters.
Biden is probably a pedo too. Admire me he is not on that list.
PS: People downvoting are blind and I'm not a Trump supporter. Both if pedos, deserve to go to jail.
Page 470 and 519, eat your heart out buddy, your president is a pedo!
Dont see Bidens name on those pages OP mentioned
Lol sorry bud bidens shit but not in the papers but trump sure as fuck is. Keep up the support
Man that shit is BLURRY when I try to enlarge it... where exactly is BIDEN'S name on those pages?
Its not there lol
Are you ever going to address that you were wrong?
What exactly are you referring to on those pages?
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Still no saying you’re wrong? It’s been 6 hours.
Do you know how to detect sarcasm?
Curious to know if like Clinton, the destination of Trump’s flight was the island. (I will check when I get home)
No, it was to palm beach international.
🤦♂️
As far as we know. Curious if they logged all the stops or were told not to for some.
NJ to Florida
It said it was to PBC (Puebla International Airport in Mexico). Not sure what that means as far as the island.
The island doesn’t have an airport
Right, I understand they land somewhere and take a boat over. Not sure where the island is in proximity to PBC airport though
Careful you might pull your whataboutism
To be honest, the fucker shouldn't have been on any of the flights once he found out what was going on but I care less about the flight logs and more about the witness testimonies that are given under oath.
After reading some of the testimonies in the 2k pages here, I'm not 100% sure that orange man did much of anything that has any sort of legal consequence, at least no ones testifying it.
Example; Guiffre's testimony around pages 1918 and 1919, she even goes as far as to correct some of the statements that were given about Trump and Epstein being good friends, and that Trump never flirted or had sex with any of Epstein's girls when she was with them.
Keep upvoting and sharing everywhere!
Lots of pages missing in the depositions. On page 1303 of the document, the deposition goes from page 64 to page 82. I have noticed this multiple times in the short time I have been reading the various depositions.
This post is gonna blow the fuck up lol
So is whoever-posted-it’s car!
Sadly, people who flew on his plane doesn't really mean a whole lot as he was a billionaire donor that often volunteered his plane to fly people around.
What I want to know is what people went to his island and how long did they stay.
Also, almost all of this information has been available for like 2 years now, so this is not even a real reveal of the stuff everyone wants.
Some of the flight logs are before 1998? Epstein didn’t buy island until 1998. Construction didn’t begin until a few years later.
Am I reading correctly that Trumps Maralago would hire people and then they would be told they would be working for Epstien instead? .... Yikes
Anything new? Will anyone actually be prosecuted?
Pg. 464 is where flight logs start. There's over 2000 pages to go through.however so once people go through that there will be new information to post
He asked new.
I don't think we've had 2000 pages before, so some must be new.
The info with names is not new though.
Oh…you read it all? I’m not sure we can just go ahead and say there’s nothing new if we haven’t read through it all
The topic is the names … we didn’t get any new name info here. The page listed by op is not new. I’m not talking about the rest of the doc
Yeah and I’m saying we don’t know about any new names because we haven’t read through it yet. Any previously mentioned names can be Ctrl-F’d and their pages found.
Found B vaccine Gates on p569
There's 2000 pages. It take some time to go through
For what? Flying on a plane? I'm not saying it isn't shady but you need actual evidence to prosecute.
This was always the wonder for me. It's a great start to an investigation, but all its proof of is they flied on a plane.
Honestly I don't think investigating every single person who ever visited the island is realistic either.
Everyone knows there’s only one reason anyone would agree to go on a glamorous vacation to a tropical island.
This is where court case stuff will fail
They've covered their tracks and time has passed.
Who were the girls? Where are they now?
This at best is gonna be a he said she said
!no!<
Depends whether there are any Republicans on the list.
Nice try bot
Seriously, though. If Donald Trump is on the list, rest assured there will be no arrests.
Same with Clinton no?
I did not have sex with that prepubescent.
Donald went to palm beach international, which we already knew.
Bill Clinton on the other hand went to the island.
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Nothing new... Giuffre won't say the juicy names, even in court.
Smooth brain, how do I save
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471-Epstein-Docs
This post is going to dissappear like Epstein's jail cell camera footage.
These documents are literally posted for public use. That's where this came from.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471-Epstein-Docs
Might as well make a subreddit where it's only 1 post with this document in order to preserve it.
ITS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE!
Might as well make a subreddit where it's only 1 post with this document in order to preserve it.
If you have an "unmoderated" or slow moving sub reddit will shut it down due to being "unmoderated ". I had three subs for my YouTube channel where I just cross posted links to videos and tweets I made, in an attempt to preserve and have it already set up with my channel name in case it ever got big. I was literally the only one posting and only mod was that's account I setup, and all the working about six months just got closed due to lack of moderation
Better to post on as many sites, upload sites, text dump sites, etc as possible.
From the indictment of Tova Noel and Michael Thomas:
"However, video from the MCC's internal video surveillance system shows that Noel and Officer-1 did not perform the 4 p.m. count" - page 8.
"As reflected on video obtained from the internal video surveillance system, at approximately 10:30 p.m. on August 9, 2019 - after TOVA NOEL, the defendant, had signed and submitted the 10 p.m. count slip and institutional count had been completed - NOEL briefly walked up to, and then walked back from, the door to the tier on which Epstein was housed." - page 9.
"As confirmed by the video obtained by the MCC's internal video surveillance system, this was the last time anyone, including any correctional officers, walked up to, let alone entered, the only entrance to the tier in which Epstein was housed until approximately 6:30 a.m. on august 10." page 9-10.
"As confirmed by the SHU's internal video surveillance system, NOEL and THOMAS did not perform the 12 a.m. count" - page 10.
"At approximately 4 a.m, the overnight supervisor briefly visited NOEL and THOMAS, who were seated at the officers desk, before leaving. At approximately 5.30 a.m., another correctional officer briefly walked though the SHU common area. Aside from those two officers, as confirmed by video surveillance, no one else entered the SHU, no one conducted any counts or rounds throughout the night, and no one entered the tier in which Epstein was housed." - page 11- 12.
and
After arriving in the SHU, Supervisor-1 spoke with THOMAS and NOEL. NOEL told Supervisor-1 "we did not complete the 3 a..m nor 5 a.m. rounds." THOMAS stated, "we messed up," and "I messed up, she's not to blame, we didn't do any rounds."
The guards desk was 15 feet from Epstein's cell.
Ref.:
United States of America v. TOVA NOEL and MICHAEL THOMAS, Defendants. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1218466/download
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And when it doesn't, you'll gladly admit you were wrong and rethink your mentality, of course.
Not if we save the pdf and post it every fucking day. They lost.
What did they lose, exactly?
And who is "They"?
Who are we going to cancel today papers
Good
Have chat GP read this shit and summarize people into Pedo percentages.
Unfortunately ChatGPT is comprised.
Bloody pity.
Explains the UFOs
Same names we already knew.
I don’t have time right now to pour over this, but so far in the comments I’m not seeing anything new. Flight logs were publicized a long time ago and, frankly, don’t tell us much. Is there anything new in these files?
It's really telling (and sad) that this subreddit is the only one taking any kind notice of the document's release...
Tell me why this post goes from 20k likes to 87?
THANKS FOR POSTING SHIT THAT WAS RELEASED YEARS AGO.
Patiently waiting for someone to turn this into a series
I just got instantly banned from justiceserved for commenting on this, get your time foil hats out haha, this is my second ever comment on this sub, just commenting once, anything, gets you banned
What was your comment, exactly?
Story about everything happening recently is to distract from the Epstein documents being released, and someone said "don't they have to be released for that to be the case" so I said "couldn't be better timed lol" because the documents have been released since the comment. Was my first ever comment on conspiracy, I just like scrolling conspiracy when I'm bored and have never commented or interacted with the sub before, ever haha
to be fair, no justice has been served yet
So to be clear my exact comment was "couldn't be better timed lol" i was banned from justice served instantly, never interacted with that sub either haha
It's doesn't matter. It's an Insta ban. Reddit subs can't have wrong think. Welcome to the dark side
They implemented that over a month ago lmao
As I said I've never commented here before, so I wasn't aware of that... You following?
I was letting you know when they implemented it....... I forgot there are people in the world who hate learning new information. My bad
Sorry geezer the lmao at the end made me think you were taking the piss that I didn't know of that rule haha
Reddit has been compromised since 2020 all the city state country reddits will ban you for not following certain narratives even if you do nothing against the ToS.
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Not even into conspiracy theories, I find scrolling through funny when it's people claiming that birds are spying on them, or aliens have sodomised their horse.
but Epsteins not a theory, Pfizer being dishonest about vaccine trial results and recorded side effects isn't a theory, government ministers profiting from COVID related contracts isn't theory, railroad companies avoiding regulations and trying to cover damage from a chemical spill isn't a theory, the media in every western nation being bought and paid for with no regard for facts or honesty isn't a theory, the declining life expectancy from suicides, overdoses and cancer deaths isn't theory, and neither is the fact that pretty much any laws that get enacted aren't by will of the people, but the will of the lobbyists. the media execs, lawmakers and politicians all went to the same small collection of schools and colleges, They're all friends having a party whilst the country I was born into has decayed and turned into something I hate. I guess that's where I stand on conspiracy theories lol, there's so much corruption that doesn't even get hidden anymore, cause they know/think we won't do anything about it, we just chase temporary relief from our indebted servitude, some with drink, drugs, sex, or in my case, scrolling the conspiracy subreddit
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Imagine lol
That’s just a typical subreddit run by cliche Redditors who can’t handle anyone who doesn’t perfectly fall in line with the left-wing agenda. They auto-banned me for commenting in politicalcompassmemes because it’s “a far-right haven.”
Lol I'm a cunt turned hippy who volunteers in community gardens and homeless kitchens and worries about the environment, believe in nationalisation of utilities and strong social services and a free market beyond that, but because I'm not into pronouns and I like sports, I've been kicked from the left to some lonely void in the middle haha. I thought the left cared about working class rights but they care about hating white, straight males and doing nothing about helping regular, working class people have a fair opportunity to achieve a respectable standard of living, it's all blue haired obese uni students crying foul when mummy and daddy handed everything to them. I still don't like most conservative view points either, it's not like I switched, just got disenfranchised I guess
It’s almost as if politicians in America don’t actually care about individuals. So if you acknowledge that fact and adopt political stances that go against them, you get branded as a right-winger by people who support the left and a left-winger by people who support the right. The only people I can associate with are people who don’t blindly subscribe to one ideology or the other.
I’m a huge advocate for green energy and sustainability, hate wasteful government spending, hate corporations, hate government subsidies and tax cuts for corporations, hate the elite, hate government regulation, dislike affirmative action, love guns, and am okay with legal abortions. I’ve gotten used to people on both sides hating me by this point.
There's a few subs that do that. I got banned from some for commenting on something in pussy pass denied.
Takes a bit of a dictator mod to ban people on commenting a sub regardless of what they said in comment. You gotta hope those type of people never gain power in real life world.
Go on ... What did you have to say on pussy pass
I only remember it being something innocuous ... feel free to did it up and remind me.
I did too. Small world.
I got banned as well last week and I generally come here to dissent. I asked them to unban me and they did... But not with out a warning that if I commented here again that my new ban would be permanent.
Oops lol
Shit let me tack a comment on then. Never want to participate in any sub that does banning like that
John Glenn is on there.
make it go up
That's what billionaires say to kids it turns out.
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Suddenly East Palestine becomes frontline news and it gets blamed on a Russian attack.
Industrial sabotage. There was derailment in Houston too of hazardous materials.
I think 2023 is gonna be lit.
where in these documents is the 'list'? i've skimmed thru it and find nothing.
It’s not a list, you actually have to read. Thousands of pages and you think you’re going to be able to scroll through a bulleted list lol
the headline said "with list of people" so yes i thought there could possibly be a bulleted list but didn't expect it.
i'm going to dive in and attempt to read this. tons of pages of useless court/legal nonsense so i'll have to filter out all of that.
maybe someone can start an actual list of people named so everyone doesn't have to read the entire document.
Dude Naomi Campbell surely has done some bad shit in her life. I guess this is how u obtain “icon” status.
Page 670 Prince Andrew 100% slept with minors - also the same page shows he (Epstein) provided underage people to powerful American figures politicians and business leaders, as well as world leaders, and prime ministers.
These docs are old.
I sifted through many of the pages. What page number mentions all the people going to the island?
I think this is bullshit
I dont see names anywhere
Yeah, probably is.
I got banned from Justice served after I posted that question.
Damn that sucks. Sorry to hear that
I feel like 90% of the people right now aren’t cracking this thing open and seeing theres no goddamn names anywhere
Flight lists start around page 470
Walter Cronkite page 1739
Where is the list in the 2000 pages?
Wait, this isn't new though, why are we acting like this is new? This is from 2019. Does anyone have any evidence this is somehow newer?
This document was released in 2019.
Just been released?
These are not the Epstein documents. These are the Maxwell documents that were already released awhile ago. The flight logs have been public information since 2021.
Hey!! Bring in the aliens! WW3! What ever! Just fucking bring it!
Entertain! Distract dammit!!
There’s so many pages, I got to like 57. Can someone just give me the numbers of the pages with names who visited the island other then Maxwell and Epstein?
From what I can tell there are at maximum 10 different names that you guys keep mentioning that are on the list. Is that it? Like, that's what everyone got blue balls for? It feels a bit anti-climactic.
Where is Bill Gates? Biden? The bank executives? The Amazon guy? Nah...I'm dissapointed. Also, the names mentioned, are they certified pedos now or it's still just an assumption?
IF THIS DONT FILL PEOPLE WITH A GUT WRENCHING NEED FOR JUSTICE IN THIS COUNTRY NOTHING WILL REALIZE THIS WENT ON DECADES THATS MILLIONS OF KIDS
The word "prince" appears 110 times.
THESE ARE NOT THE NEW DOCUMENTS THAT ARE TO BE DROPPED SOON!
These are the same old documents from 2019 and the names here are not in relation to the abuse allegation. Those in the upcoming release ARE.
STOP SHARING THIS CRAP! It is OLD. Funny how all the "keyboard legal experts" on here (eye roll) have no clue what they are even looking for and clearly have zero business making accusations.
IS EVERYONE REALLY THIS STUPID?
Wait a second- this article from Newsweek today says that this data dump was from 2019. Have we been hoodwinked intentionally by OP?
I can’t upvote this. Why?
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OH YEA
Look for names that were on flights there but never flew back
Keep in mind only one of his 3 pilots kept a passenger manifest. That’s better than none though.
Guys, upvote! Comment! This is getting filtered hard, gotta fight it
lol wtf are you talking about, it’s literally on the front page
edit: the best part is, it’s not even new documents lmao. Truly the least deranged /r/conspiracy user
He’s acting like you can “break through” a filter as well. The hero syndrome is crazy.
I had always heard this sub has become a cesspool of dunning-kruger competitions through references in other subs and now that this hit the front page, I'm seeing it in all its "glory".
it's a helluva ride of intrigue and view into human psyche, if nothing else
So is the fact politics and all your worldnews subs aren't covering this...ha
Nice try.
cope
Immature manchild confirmed
You don't
You dont understand.
Reddit and biden are censoring this shit hard. The only way around it is UPVOTES TO THE LEFT!
reddit can't deny the upvotes!
you wouldnt understand. the elite has control over the frontpage. but if you press the button harder, their algorithms cannot stop us.
EDIT: I just got banned for this comment HOW FUCKING HILARIOUS IS THAT. Please, moderators of this subreddit, realize how incredibly ironic it is that you would censor someone trying to point out that thinking the elite censors the frontpage is funny... pleasee.. oh god.
Deleting past comments because Reddit starting shitty-ing up the site to IPO and I don't want my comments to be a part of that. -- mass edited with redact.dev
lol the edit
Reddit loves this kinda shit, why would it get "filtered"??
It's at the top of All lol wtf are you taking about oh I just realized which sub I'm in. Gross.
It's like the top post on reddit
Fuck the WEF
Lmao just reaching into the grab bag of generic right wing grievances
So WEF is a left wing hangout is what you are saying? Ha
Congrats on adopting those dirtbags as your own
No that's not what they said lol.
Thanks for commenting!
Can't be filtered. Its how I found it. Comments are hilarious in here. But glad this doc got public attention.
OMG. Everyone get in here ... FLIGHT LOGS ... that were released in 2015, you dopes.
We need to call DJ Khaled to boost the servers
This post is already getting downvoted like crazy
It's at 97% upvoted how is that downvoted like crazy
lmao
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They're legally blonde give them a break
Tick tock
Ctrl+F Trump
Ctrl+F Clinton
Ctrl+F Bush
Ctrl+F Obama
Ctrl+F Biden
Ctrl+F Other Bush
Yes on Trump
Yes on Clinton
NOTHING on Bush
NOTHING on Obama
NOTHING on Biden
Can someone just write a full list of the names out?
Updoot and save. Any bets on when/if media coverage actually takes this one?
Lmao that's rich. Pun very much intended.
Looking for the Packers and some Aussie politicians on this list
Lmk if you spot anything!
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If "just released" means over 3 years ago, then yes, they were just released.
Bots downvoting this like crazy
2 hours old, 97% upvoted?
Must be the bots downvoting 🙄
Why is everything the last month “the media doesn’t want you to know” and “bots are downvoting hard”
It’s like we’re on the express train to crazy town like Facebook.
it's been this way for a long time, as someone who just pops in here from time to time
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On the expresss? LOL
Reddit reached crazy town years ago.
Look at what sub this thread is posted in...
To be fair reddit as a whole hasn't exactly had a perfect track record with not jumping to conclusions for quite a while now. ie, the Boston bombing.
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Did you get to see Hunters penis yet?
He’s already jerked it to Hunter’s penis this morning, his ritual.
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Nothings wrong with that when you are a conspiracy theorist looking for all the hidden crimes that all the liberals are single-handedly responsible for.
This is just another Tuesday for that crowd.
If you can't realize the front page of Reddit is shilled with fake upvotes and awards by strategist companies you're extremely dense.
This is not the client list we’re waiting for.
Reddit actually crashed a few minutes ago.
It says 97% upvoted. That's about as high as it ever gets for a big sub.
Where do you see the upvote %?
On pc hover over the text between upvote and downvote. You have to click on the post first. If you’re on mobile use the Apollo app.
Does this also work for comments? Or just the main thread count?
You’re late to the party. Vote count was low low low for the first hour or so.
I’m starting to think that my comment somewhat acts as a deterrent.
Vote counts almost always start low and ramp up exponentially. Don't worry about the low vote count; just look at the percent upvoted.
And what was the percentage when this post was new..?
I don’t know, but it seems like you don’t either. The point is that you’re the one making the claim that bots were downvoting this thread, but you weren’t even using the right data to make your case.
Holy hell you’re dense. You were not here to see the upvote percentage when I made my original comment. I was. OP was. You were not.
My comment was quite accurate at the time I posted it.
This is a mental illness, please talk to somebody
Lmao 97% upvotes, front page…
it’s at 97% dumbass. Take off your tinfoil hat
Are you dumb? Did you even bother looking at the %s?
I know right. There out in force
This post was upvoted like crazy though
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True, just like they 2020 election
Though I'd be hesitant to imply this sub cares about truth considering the amount of vague and unsubstantiated tweets that hit then frontpage here... Like the one trying to tie the train wreck in Ohio to COVID vaccines lol
My favourite is the victim cries, “This doctor says the opposite to other doctors therefore they must be right but they’re also losing their medical licence for disagreeing!”
As if a builder wouldn’t lose their validations for saying wet noodles are great for support beams, no it’s all a conspiracy by big timber to keep us DOWN!
Though it’s fun to see the few reasonable ones try to talk sense to the Facebook boomers and have the occasional dig at low hanging fruit
There's not enough research to show that the vaccines are safe!!! But there definitely has been a shitton of research (Google) to show that invermectin works! These 10 doctors cannot be wrong.
Every time I got to my doctor he prescribes ivermectin and if I’ve been a good boy he gives me a sugar cube
They’re*
Maybe people don’t like that you lied about Biden being involved with a pedophile.
I’m only downvoting you because you felt the need to lie about Biden. Confirm before you post.
96% upvoted
21,245 points (94% upvoted)
Say what?
Oh look, the thing everyone said was the reason for the Ohio Incident, the aliens, and everything else just dropped.
Holy Shit 21K upvotes? I didn’t realize this sub was capable of 21K Upvotes. The max on this sub is usually 2K.
But this is a well deserved 21K upvotes
Bill gates 568
Take this with a huge grain of salt. The lost has been sanitized and altered. This isn't the full list nor she we be satisfied with this list. They are still protecting the clients that flew on that plane and committed those horrid acts. Don't take this as a victory. They're still hiding and protecting so many of them.
Thats incredible watching the upvote downvote battle.. Epsteins flight logs released and its getting downvoted on a conspiracy subreddit… lol
It's at 97% upvoted what down vote battle
Downvoters please explain your bullshit.
This isn’t new… the mods stickied the top comment saying this was released in 2019 and we have been bamboozled
Also gonna be a lot of Trump defending going on while democrats being on the list is 100% proof they are pedos lol, send them all to prison
The difference is you knew Trump was a pedophile when you voted for him. So fucking creepy
What about my comment makes you think I voted for him lol
What downvotes?
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Following and upvoting!
Bring it home!
Commenting for visibility
What do you reckon will come of this?
It’s time
This is major
He’s fit 20 names in a 1 inch box with a broken pen. Where are the 3rd grade teachers that can actually make sense of this handwriting?
HA! Get exposed you filthy bastards.
Let’s see the list of names.
And as usual nothing will become of the list of people on pedo island.
I can't read through all that if someone has can yu tell me the prominent Names! Please
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Why are people like this allowed to exist
What page?
464
if people are right about all the other sideshows being a distraction for this release, then there is some wild shit in this document.
A bunch of Peter Files!
Save it while you can.
At this point credabiility is gone. I bet theres tons of people missing from that list
Anyone with power has been removed from the documents, don't worry.
Well, like Panama Papers, probably a few reporters will be suicided, then no one will be brave enough to talk about it again.
Well damn. Here we go! Get ‘em!
What page is that list on exactly
If I found out the island resort I went to where I just got a foot rub was actually a front for a child sex trafficking ring, I would immediately contact the FBI and tell them everything I knew. How I was contacted, what I was told by Epstein, who was there, what the resort was like, anything that could possibly be useful.
I wonder if any of these people actually did that…
I clicked on the < arrow top left. Should we have access to these other documents?
Here comes the fake alien invasion
I can’t wait for absolutely nothing to happen to these people…..
Can anyone make a list of then names? Yeah I’m a lazy fuck
Old person question...
How would I download this entire document?
TIA!
After clicking on the link click on the three bars at the upper right corner for a sidebar to show, in that side bar there is a link that says Original Document (pdf) click on that link, a new page will load with the entire PDF, just click on the download icon, also on the upper left corner to download.
Oh wow! Thank you so much!!!
Thank you thank you thank you!!!
My bet its rehashed redacted stuff we already sourced. Maybe a Clinton gets drug through the mud more but that'll be all.
Nothing will come of the atrocious acts committed by those involved. They control the narrative, and what we see.
So everyone's Internet is getting Clinton'd today
This isn't really a conspiracy at all. It's just fact.
If you are looking for keywords on PC press CTRL-F and type in what you are looking for in the article.
Just a helpful tip
So the day has finally come. What are the chances that either 1, this is yet another nothingburger that just confirms what we already knew, or 2, the will get buried by the aliens that "just happened" to invade today.
These same documents have been available since 2019.
https://archive.org/details/6250471-Epstein-Docs
That's a shitload of scrolling!!
Anyone compiling a list of names?
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Sure we all believe that.
Page 899 confirms Prince Andrew
So this is why aliens are invading
Watch this will be like the Panama papers and nothing happen. Oh look, ALIENS AND BALOONS
One way to get your own copy...
Open the doc cloud link.
Left click the 3 bars thing (upper right corner), right click "Original Document (PDF)"
Go to new window, wait for document to load, click download icon!
370 meg! This was on a laptop, dunno about phones...
can we get a pinned comment of who is on this that was never known for like 10 years already
What pages has all the peados on
for a subreddit that prides itself on questioning the narrative, it's surprising how 20k+ people upvoted this without as much as 'doing their own research' at when it was actually published. This document has been circulating for 3 years and was posted here several times now. Damning stuff, but nothing new, as claimed.
make yourself useful then.
condense the court documents to just the list of names, and doxx them all.
This is not the real list. This post is driven by bots as you can see with the upvotes.
The sad thing is the flight logs with that names of people who went to the island are untouchable and essentially those of the new world order.
This is not new. Delete this thread!
Edit - this type of shit is the reason this sub is a joke.
These documents are not the unsealed documents recently discussed by the press. They are court documents unsealed in 2019 relating to a lawsuit filled in 2015. Although the documents thought to be released soon are from this same suit they are not online
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Honestly don't expect the media to cover this much unless they go wild for trump or elon. I'll expect them to ignore it as much as the twitter files or brandons file hoarding/mishandling problem.
Weird how we've heard so much about Biden's laptop from right wing media persons, but not a peep about the laptop Trump's intern that went to Russia for a year had that had classified material. Almost like ya'll are just a bunch of partisan hacks that don't give two fucks about reality.
Weird how we keep seeing train derailments but no one seems to remember Biden killed the strike. Weird that a bunch of liberal judges keep letting out career criminals that are killing people daily. Weird how you non conspiracy people keeping showing up on this site with your bullshit too, but here you are. Life is weird eh.
So, the train derailment that specifically happened because Trump and the EPA overruled a previous rule about truck braking and hazmat materials? That train derailment that we can directly point to the EPA under Scott Pruitt and Trump removing the regulations? That one? The democrats don't get a pass with us, they should enforce the fucking regulations, but we had the regulations to stop this and Trump had them removed, you're now blaming democrats for not fixing what Trump broke, even though Trump broke it so severely they made sure the EPA by law can't even enforce the regulation anymore due to this SCOTUS decision? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/30/us/epa-carbon-emissions-scotus.html SCOTUS, which is hard right now, ruled the EPA can't make and enforce rules anymore. So this is literally Trump's fault, and Biden/Democrats literally couldn't have fixed it due to Trump, but you're STILL blaming democrats. What's that say about you as a person? Maybe you just shouldn't be taken seriously because your partisan hackery has broken your brain.
Why didn’t Biden reinstate it? He had the opportunity before the midterms. He also had the opportunity when they went on strike. I’m not a Trump fan, but Biden didn’t do shit to fix the problem either. And won’t. None of them fix the problems but you keep on hating the man who isn’t even in power anymore if that makes you feel better.
He literally can't get the EPA to enforce rules right now because of this https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/30/us/epa-carbon-emissions-scotus.html It makes the EPA's enforcement arm entirely toothless. You'd know that if you kept up with the actual news. I'm hating the guy that actually repealled the thing that caused this incident, because I can look and see cause and effect. You can't apparently.
Whatever. NY times ( real news) bahahaha. You hate whoever you want. Like I said, the Dems had the power to change it back. They didn’t. They don’t care, Trump didn’t care, and the next one won’t either.
Except I literally showed you, no the Dem's DONT have the ability to change it back. This is directly on the people you voted for. You are the reason for this, you and everyone else that keeps letting republicans do this shit. It's YOUR fault.
You don’t know me or who I voted for. Get off your high horse and stfu. No it’s not my fault. I didn’t vote for either piece of shit. I vote local and that’s it. Neither side puts up a decent candidate. I didn’t vote for Trump or Clinton nor Trump or Biden. They all suck. Now carry on being a asshole and have a great day, or not. I have more important things to do then argue with a Biden lover.
Weird how we keep seeing train derailments but no one seems to remember Biden killed the strike.
Or how Trump reversed an Obama era truck-braking rule. Trump was listed on the flight log and in the black book. Maybe he is responsible? Or maybe things don't always have to be a conspiracy.
I don’t think the trains are a conspiracy. I think it’s shitty government over site. Everyone on here acknowledges Trump was on there, as was Clinton, Gates, and I think Biden too ( I haven’t looked yet but his name was mentioned above). I keep seeing you point at Trump, ok. But what about your democrats? They get a pass with you? You seem to think we all are Trump lovers. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m not a government lover period. They do not work for the American people period. They work for their own interests and power. But I only believe in so much coincidence. The attacks on our power grid, our food suppliers, and these flying crafts give me pause. No, not everything is a conspiracy, but I’m betting some of it is.
“I think Biden too” Jesus Christ you people .
His name was mentioned. I said I hadn’t read it. But if he’s on there, he’s on there. Clinton and Gates are definitely on there. Isn’t that enough for you? I didn’t release the fucking list, so take it up with them. Kiss Biden’s lily white ass, kick Trumps. I don’t really give a shit. Why are you even here? Go read something you believe or don’t. You seem to think I give two shits about your opinion. You people 🙄😂.
Hence how rumors and conspiracies start. Something was “mentioned” yet it’s verifiable that it’s not true. The op posted his name when it wasn’t true.
Lock all of them up. But make sure you are verifying names first. You people. 🤡
No matter how much your brain tries to tell you Biden is on there, he isn't. Just Trump and Clinton. Burn them both at the stake, but you keep making up your own stories about Biden because you're a partisan hack incapable of understanding nuance.
My brain didn’t tell me crap. Someone above posted Biden and the page he was on. I plainly stated I hadn’t read it myself to check. I’m not partisan anything. But shill away. Kiss Biden’s ass, I don’t care. Downvote away. I don’t care about that either. If you think old Biden is a saint with all the pictures of him all over kids, then think it. Do you. I’ll do me. I love watching people getting their panties in a wad. You did it well.
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It’s not on MSM but everyone has phones and local news crews are covering it. I heard about SC on the local news. I have family in Houston so that’s how I heard about Texas. And I saw Louisiana on here.
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I don’t think it’s a smoke screen on the trains myself. I think it’s shitty government over site. Now the clean up, that’s another story. There is no way in hell it’s safe for those people in Ohio to return. I will say the info coming out of the other sites is spotty as of now. I don’t think everything is a conspiracy. I get a kick out of some of them. But I don’t believe in endless coincidences either. There is a lot happening daily at this point between war, farm land, power station attacks, and these freaking flying crafts. Digging through it all can be a lot. I will say that I believe our government will lie and cover up stuff in a minute. I don’t trust them. Any of them. 🤷♀️
They talked about trumps Russia collusion non stop on the news for 2 years lmao the only time they brought up hunters laptop was to attempt to debunk the story.
Those are different things. Hunter's laptop shows pay to play activity with Ukraine and China (among loads of drug related and questionable sexual activity, but those things just make Hunter look bad and make Biden look like a hypocrite). That's a bit more egregious than leaking classified material, unless that classified material was being sold/transferred to foreign powers intentionally.
Where is anything new in any of this? I've heard everything in here already.
What about when Trump sold secret Presidential documents to foreign powers? Why don’t you care about treason?
Looking for the Packers and some Aussie politicians on this list
Which Packers?
Kerry and son
So what will happen?
Sadly, nothing. I’m sure an investigation will reveal that no one listed here was actually there for nefarious purposes. The investigation will conclude that they were all only there for completely, totally, surely, absolutely legitimate reasons like a baptism, wedding, not-sex-with-underage-children, not pedophilia, or maybe just a big Easter feast. They’ll say the pedophiles we’re on a different list that was burned by Ghislane Maxwell before she got arrested.
Obviously; I really don’t know, but I’m sure it’ll all get swept under a big pile of bullshit.
To be real some people probably went for the holiday. Or even prostitution which is fine if it's all concenting adults.
Id be more willing to stongly judge people that went after he was a convicted sex offender for that underage girl. Then you really know something is up. No excuse once that was public.
Or to talk about investments, didn't he run a big hedge fund? All these people have a lot of money to invest.
And he was grooming people for spy agencies most likely. No doubt he was charming and good company. Many people probably went, discovered he's horrible and left type thing.
That's why people that who became friends after he was a convicted for having sex with underage girls is suss... no more 'I didn't know'. Quite likely they were drawn to that. Hence the Bill Gates thing is suss as fuck.
You’re absolutely right
Is Biden on here?
Trump and Clinton were a given.
He's not. Some people spread page numbers that he's not in, probably trying to muddy the waters
He's not, go look at 470 and 519.
Nope lol people keep sighting pages that have no mention of any Biden. Trump cultist have to find Biden even if he isn't their since trump is implicated to be a pedophile now.
Citing
There
Biden is too poor to have been one of Epstein's friends/accomplices.
I’d be surprised if Biden is the pedo the right projects him to be.
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Yes because if there’s one thing pedos are known for, it’s doing their pedofication out in the open in front of cameras.
Many pedophiles literally go out of there way to place themselves in positions that allow them access to children: priests, teachers, daycare workers, athletic coaches. As someone who went to Catholic school while pedophile priests were teaching, no one was even remotely surprised when those priests were outed because they were complete fucking creeps. Whether Biden is a pedophile or not, his behavior around children is fucking weird and I wouldn't let anyone caress, kiss, or touch my kids like that.
Ah yes. By this logic, people who break into cars in broad daylight aren't criminals.
C'mon man poor guy can't help himself Jack.
Hey now folks, c’mon. Let’s get down to brass tacks. Those kids aren’t gonna touch themselves.
Presidents feel they can do anything they want with zero repercussions and unfortunately they’ve been proven correct.
Is it really fondling if he does it on camera? Because who would do it on camera? Checkmate
Yet the footage still exists..
Your projection is pathetic
Which Biden? The president or his son the crack head?
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Indeed they are, someone's mentioned the pages in the comments
470 and 519
I checked those pages and I couldn't find his name
Seems like there is some deliberate misinformation in this thread.
Not in this sub?!?
Those are the pages of ~~biden~~ Clinton and trump, they just worded their comment funny
edit: I meant CLINTON and trump, you can see where I pointed it OPs error here https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/11212j2/the_epstein_court_documents_have_just_been/j8i0mq2/
That makes less sense? What does that mean? Everybody looked at those pages already and found no mention of Biden. Even OP took it off their list.
I only see trump listed 128 times 🤷♀️
Biden is not on there
Get it out there
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just some lovely white multibillionaires there to enjoy the nice colonialism of islands and partake in some pedophilia, nothing to see here kids
Some smart person needs CharGPT or some other AI to read this and push out "Famous names".
Fuck these pedos. Share everywhere
So 100% these guys were fucking kids or what?
If they weren’t, they were at least offered to. Guilty through association and silence.
Now, we've had flight logs for a while. Quite a few people who flew on Epstein's plane never actually went on his island. Epstein liked to hob knob with powerful people. Quite a few of them only flew on his plane 'cuz Epstein offered it up quite frequently.
There's a huge difference, including crimes, between just flying on Epstein's plane vs. going on his island and actually having sex with underaged women.
A lot of people are probably going to be wrongfully smeared by this document.
This is also what I am wondering as well.
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This was all released in August 2019. Here is an article from then describing the release and linking directly to this document.
Misleading tag, mods?
Mainstream media: There's a UFO!
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Reddit manipulating upvotes? When I refresh this on mobile, I briefly see around 7700 ups and then quickly down to about 2500
Reddit is in fact trying to ban this. I upvoted this post, and I got an “are you sure you like this” message pop up. I’ve never seen that before. Do not let them bury this.
I love how this sub is so desperate for a deep state narrative that they’re pretending a post on /all is being suppressed and there are bots here.
/pol/ on 4chan is in full slide mode. One of the biggest and most important documents are out yet no mention of it and just a bunch of slide thread on Ohio and aliens. I knew 4chan was comprised a long time ago but damn it’s obvious now.
In current day and age, I care more about the ohio derailment then a list of people who will never see justice
Using comment to keep track.
You can also save post.
It frequent deletes saved posts for me. Always save links or comment
Yeah no point to save a post they don’t want to be saved.
...There is no list of people on that island. There is a pilot's logbook that shows some people who flew on Epstein's jet but not all to the island - for example Donald Trump and Bill Gates. This information was also published quite a long time ago... So there's nothing new here that I can see.
Google is suppressing the fuck out of this
This is literally the first result I get when googling "epstein court documents".
lol
It’s actually not, you’ll see that document is from years ago. It’s not this.
You're wrong lol. It's the same document. 18-2868. Document 271. All 2024 pages.
Donald Trump is a good friend a Jeffrey Epstein.
I think was a good friend. They had a falling out over some real estate deal, and also over him harassing/sexually assaulting an under aged worker at maralago. These are just the facts I have no political affiliation.
I think the friendship ended when Trump had Epstein suicided.
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Because his father is Donald Trump
And the pRedditors throughout this gross website will remain silent. If by God’s grace this gets traction anywhere else bedsides this sub, you will find legions of defenders on their unholy crusade.
I've been saying anyone implicated in this should be taken down immediately, unfortunately, there are people who are emotionally invested in demagogues and people who peddle insanity that are going to excuse some things and call conspiracy within a conspiracy, it's like a huge house of mirrors, some people are absolutely lost and think they have found the secret to everything.
It's like holding a handful of shit and calling it ice cream.
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Their post history reads like someone who's part of the Spanish inquisition
Yeah. The defenders/sheep
I noticed a lot of really bad logic in here, then I realized what sub this was.
What the hell is up with everyone here assuming that every name that appears here belongs to a sex offender?
Their either guilty or complicit by silence. Anyone in that circle wouldn’t be in that circle unless Epstein thought they could be leveraged or silenced through blackmail.
First time?
Scanning through these documents just makes it all more real. I never knew the Roberts family worked at Mara Lago… then you have usual names mentioned Clinton, Trump, Prince Andrew, Jean Luc Brunnel.
The one thing that grossed me out was the coded message about a girl giving free "How to speak Russian lessons, not blonde" and her age was written as being 2 x 8 and you "can have 1st today".
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I didn't take note of it. Here is an article on the phone message image though: https://nypost.com/2019/08/09/creepy-phone-messages-revealed-in-jeffrey-epstein-document-dump/
This appears to have been released in 2019
Lots of pages of the sealed testimony are missing. Can't expose the honeypot stuff...
Why do I feel like the real evil perpetrators are the ones whose names' aren't on here?
No wonder there was another mass shooting yesterday
Leave it to this sub to post 4 year old documents and then blatantly lie about what they say then blow it off when people call them on it for lying as "just trying to be accurate"
I would just like to say that Trump (pages 138 & 470 so far) and Jeffrey Epstein tied up and raped a 13 year old girl for 3 full days! in 1994.
It was trump's man that got Epstein a sweetheart deal to avoid prison the me in 2007
over 2000 pages.
Someone get an AI to read through all of it after training it on exactly what you want found.
Then have the AI create another document that only has the damning info on it.
Nobody has time to read 2000 pages and retain all of it.
My client invented exactly what you need. It’s an AI search program that reads through millions of pages of legalese. Unfortunately I do not subscribe.
well shit, hopefully someone does it, because nobody except a lawyer with TONS of free time is going to be able to read all that, retain it, and be able to understand it all clearly.
Not a single new name that we didn’t already know and for some reason a lot of people in here lying that Joe Biden is listed. He’s not, but Donald Trump is, a few times.
Hmm…is there something in the news that needs focus removed from it? Here, enjoy some new reading materials. Forget about the UFO’s and chemical spills…
It's been scheduled to be released
It's the opposite dude, they are there to hide this.
That’s just what they want you to think…
Yea, Nordstream 2
Do you realise that more than one thing can be reported on at a time?
Really? I only have an attention span for one story at a time.
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Way to attack him instead of any of his arguments gremlin
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There isn't much of one, I'll agree with you. But attacking someone isn't right.
attacking a Tucker deepthroater is always right.
Then attack me too , but atleast be logical not emotional
logic doesn't matter to conservative simps
Yeah but apparently saying that to them Is “bullying”
Ok snowflake
Man my feelings! Quit being so mean! Or make a coherent argument bootlicker. Maybe go deep throat Rachel Maddow.
This is what you look like
Lmao yeah I’m a bootlicker for all my authoritarian takes like “police reform” and “free lunches for children” or the scary tyranny of “affordable healthcare” ahhhhh!
Which would be acceptable if my dollar would still be worth something and my right to bear arms remains constitutional.
Oh yeah sorry I forgot we’re coming to take your guns too. That’s why there’s been such sweeping gun reform across the country right? Oh whats that? There is next to none and you all keep bitching about it because Fox news told you to? Weird… Conservatives are all dumb sheep.
Next to none, yet the goalposts on gun control keep getting moved. It's thanks to our republican leaders that majority of wild gun control hasn't been passed. Yet democrats will continue to try, and will try to blame the piece of plastic involved.
Nah guns aren’t the issue. Violent ultra nationalist white supremacists are. And guess who they keep ideologically aligning with? Keep trying though. Watching the rusty gears in your head grind together is exceptionally entertaining.
Lmao the suspect last night doesn't fit you're narrative try again
Or the lunar new year suspect
You…you think a single outlying piece of data is what is used as the basis of my argument? Christ no wonder you’re a conservative.
Says the one who called ultra white supremacy nationalist republicans are the ones committing these crimes. Sometimes yes usually no.
Usually yes. Sometimes no. Good try tho.
In terms of gun violence, you think Detroit and chicago are full of Klan members shooting minorities, no. Those cities represent an exponentially larger amount of gun violence than any political hate crimes.
😂
Thinking is never a waste of time friend
You should tell that to the entirety of the Republican Party and a decent chunk of the Democrats then.
Wish I could 🫱🏽🫲🏼
Loser
Basement dweller type shit lol. Get a life, weirdo
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Very cool Reddit comment
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You realise you made this comment on a direct link to the file… You can literally read it to your heart's contend.
Edit: there appears to be some censorship applied. Page 1342 is an example. As is 1337. Unless I'm mistaken.
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Demo-fucking-crats! Wake up!
I believe Trump was on this. If you really believe either side of politics are the correct side, you’re the one that needs to wake up.
Hey man, there have actually been some good guys in office before, just not as many after JFK was assassinated.
Saved before it gets “disappeared.”
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And, has literally been available since 2019. The new documents have yet to be released, so someone jumped the gun on this one.
Joe Biden was probably banned from the island. To pedo for the pedos
Too*
Awww you mad you didn't see his name in there like you've told yourself it would be since all this started ... poor baby, better move the goal posts.
You surely known ol pedo Pete is pedo yesh?
I mean whoever is on the list though is a revelation I guess. Biden doesn’t seem to have any qualms groping them in public on camera.
We need to make this reach at least 100k upvotes today.
I wonder if CNN will even touch it.
I think it's important to emphasize that you can't immediately assume everyone on this list did anything wrong.
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Why? Did you visit the island too?
Virginia claims that trump and Epstein were good friends but trump never “partook” but he definitely knew what was up and told Epstein he has the life
Another interesting bit: when asked who the prime minister was she was forced to have sex with, the question was objected by lawyer on grounds that answering it puts her in danger. So we’ll never know who that PM is
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And it will go up again, and again...
Wheres Elon?
Cant find him using the search
Commenting to boost visibility
Every person who comments is getting put on a list somewhere
Hey op? So where in that 2000 page document is the list? Have you looked?
What page does the list start? Anyone with a TLDR ?
These aren't the official release.
“Donald Trump was a good friend of Jeffrey’s”
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Trumplethinskins was BFF's with Jeffrey Epstein
they released it on valentines day? this court is sus af
Nothing that we didn't already know about tbh.
Lets blow this post up old fashioned style with a nice fucking BUMP
Did you guys know that Rihana is pregnant?
2,000 pages. Oy. How about an appendix w just the names….? Is Trump mentioned?
Whew. Didn't see my name on there
I stopped scrolling through when I was on page 48, of 2024.... Can someone just simplify this? Thanks 😌
Pedophiles taking massive L’s , you love to see it
This will never reach front page
Prince Andrew. Unsurprising.
I think I saw the exact same document a year or so ago. I could be wrong tho.
Wow this is just... Heartbreaking. Reading the accounts of a young 14 year old girl :(
I mean, you could start at the fact that Virginia Giuffre was trafficked from Trump's actual house when she was 15, couldn't you. And the fact that Trump has this. But sure, let's start with 2000 names of people a socialite was involved with. For a sub called conspiracy, this place doesn't really see red flags.
Biden, Trump and Clinton names are on it but most of the ppl here will just see Trump
Checked the Biden page numbers. Nothing there. Did you look or did you just get trolled?
Nope Biden isn't in it no matter how much people want it. Gotta make shit up now that trump's a known pedophile
Ok but u forgot about Clinton
No we didn't. We have known that Clinton is on these logs ever since this document was first released in 2019. This is extremely old news
Nobody gives a fuck about Clinton except the right wing. He flew on Epstein's plane and presumably diddled underage girls, lock his old nasty ass up. Same with everyone else on there. That includes Daddy trump. Unless of course you don't use the same evidence that helped you arrive at the conclusion that Clinton is guilty.
This sub isnt even conspiracy. It's just right wing extremists basically yelling at the clouds about the wrongdoings of democrats while failing to recognize the issues in the republican party. Braindead lemmings. Can we get back to the regularly scheduled programming of flat earth and aliens?
Clinton isn't really special everyone knows and has known this shit he has pics with one of the girls. Trump supporters wanted to act like he hasn't been fucking kids and now we know he's a kiddie fucker officially so now if you support trump you support pedophiles. Just like any of the other child fuckers on his flights
Page 1918 states otherwise
Lol I'm sure bud
That means you read it?
I read it doesn't mention Biden just that trump didn't fuck girls Infront of Maxwell while she was with them doesn't mean he wasn't fucking little kids with Jeffery lol he even says that Epstein had "the life". Trump thought Epstein was pretty great fucking kids lmao
Page #?
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If you were Epstein would you want an old weirdo like joe Biden hanging out with you?
Irrelevant cause Biden's not on the list.
Yeah, I don't support Clinton and I absolutely hate him because he is on the list.
I doubt seeing this will change your mind about Trump.
You have the same assumption of them as they do of you. Possible to hate both.
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Call me when it doesn't get blocked from somewhere other than here
Right. It's always just a circle jerk
Exactly, I’m not even finding new posts about. It would definitely be bigger news.
That's because this document was already released to the public in 2019.
Proof ?
Y'all might have views I vehemently disagree with, but never let someone make you think that asking for proof is somehow wrong.
Lol this sub is a joke
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We already knew he was on the logs years ago, what about the hundreds of others people claim as false prophets that are on the list? No, just focus on one person you don't like...
Haha it’s always fun when you guys openly use “WHAT ABOUT?”
No he is likely guilty too, I am saying they are all likely guilty and just focusing on one man is a horrible idea when we need to go after them all equally.
Yeah I'm not reading 2000 pages.can you make a list instead?
I heard names start around page 463?
Sick pedo DONALD TRUMP on 470 and 138.
Now read page 1918
So these are flight logs from one pilot? Y’all serious? Y’all should read a book or find a new hobby this isn’t proof of anything
It’s so wild that trump killed his best friend.
Did you mean the Clintons?
“He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” - not the Clinton’s
Wtf is this dude theres no names anywhere
It's time...
To try and post this over and over on main reddit subs
TL;DR? Honestly, I just want the names.
Idk how tf any normal person is expected to be able to read that handwriting. 2000 pages of this would take me 6 months.
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I think it’s the list?
Everybody needs to download this and back it up on any kind of physical media.
Can you explain why?
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I can hear your two brain cells rubbing together through this comment
The document you provided is a collection of court records and other
legal documents related to a lawsuit filed against Jeffrey Epstein by
Virginia Giuffre, who alleged that Epstein and his associates sexually
abused her when she was a minor. The records include depositions,
emails, and other materials that were gathered as part of the lawsuit.
The documents provide detailed information about Epstein's alleged sex
trafficking operation and the powerful people who were associated with
him, including Prince Andrew of the UK, former US President Bill
Clinton, and others. The documents also include allegations that Epstein
and his associates recruited and abused numerous underage girls and
that they used intimidation and other tactics to keep the victims from
coming forward.
It's important to note that the allegations contained in these documents have not been proven in court and that Epstein died by suicide in 2019 while awaiting trial on charges related to his alleged sex trafficking operation.
Summary provided by chatgpt
Page 1000 references to working at Mar A Lago
Who released them and why? Clearly the masters dont release anything without an agenda or after its scrubbed clean
We already know the "elites" are corrupt. Are we seriously just waiting for them to decide to go after themselves?
Mother fuckers here asking for pages and details instead of reading it. Perfect example of our society.
You all will scroll through 2x more Reddit pages today than what that document has. Might as well wait for MSM to tell you what’s in it.
Its just ppl flying on a plane, not linked to anything else, ppl eating this shit up lol
Magats malding so hard over Trump being on the logs
?Donald Trump was aiso a good friend of Jeffreys. He didn?t partake in sex with any of us but he
?irted with me. He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey, ?You?ve got the iife."?
and: When did Donald Trump flirt with you?
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He didn't.
FFS I don't care about trump. there are 2000 people on the list. who the fuck are they people????
Too bad most conspiracy theorists are illiterate.
Trump is attached to it so it won’t go anywhere. Dude is a major pedo and has the power to keep it out of the light. No one else listed has both the clout and money to do such a thing. Even someone like Gates couldn’t hide it because money takes you so far. That access of a likely Republican candidate for president is too strong.
Care to point out which page number(s) that show Trump visited pedo island or which page number(s) have sworn testimony accusing Trump of molesting a child?
this is completely pointless
Alright so was Kanye involved
We knew most of this already…nothingburger
https://imgflip.com/i/7b4njq
Why does this post have 22k upvotes? So inorganic.
This is fake. Come on guys, this would have been a bigger deal, I’m sure you could have found out that with a little digging.
Let's all remember not every single person who went there had anything to do with the pedophile ring
Lol trump is mentioned multiple times... Drain the swamp huh
Are you sure about that; people's list?
About time!
Pg 488 prince andrew with Steve Burgess (his security detail)
https://www.alamy.com/hrh-prince-andrew-with-royal-protection-officer-steve-burgess-rear-arriving-for-a-concert-in-liverpool-britain-august-1992-image341508789.html
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How do you save this document?
Can somebody explain to me how/why is this online now and is this legit?
So do we know who/what the initials stand for?
Kenny G on the list?
TLDR?
Here we go
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History.
good luck
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How do I read this document? What page would the names be on?
So, 2000 pages and no names?
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Gonna start going through here after my morning poop! Gonna be a great day
TLDR? What does this mean?
"Too Long, Didn't Read"
Following
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533- Forrest Sawyer 549- Walter Cronkite 547- Prince Andrew 531 & 542 Larry Summers 543- Sandy Berger
Looks like a lot of initials around page 560
Test
so, what now?
I feel bad for the court reporter, I hope she is okay after hearing all of this firsthand.
What are the rules for flight logs? Do you have to list all passengers on the flight?
No matter how hidden it was rumours even within the rich circle must be common.
So maybe you went just once and didnt know any better. Going multiple times though is just very suspicious.
Save for later.
With AI we don't know until we get an official release or confirmation at the very least by a skilled set of journalists.
Be patient folks. What is the source?
“On 19 February 2022, Brunel was found dead in his jail cell in La Santé prison, after allegedly hanging himself.”
Hmmmm why does that sound familiar?….
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Brunel
Everyone should save this before it starts disappearing
So it goes... It was nice knowing y'all .... WWIII is imminent ...
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We’re about to invade the cartels now. Nothing else will do it.
Why are these documents never searchable? It's such a mundane thing to slap some OCR on shit these days, but they never do it when it matters.
commenting to say I was here
So /r/conspiracy did you find [politician I don't like] in the logs yet?
traction
So exactly the names we have been discussing for years lol
Document from early on is eluding all over the place of other parties eillinvilved. Including the fact that maxwell was not the only female to help him get his victims
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There are so many infos... it's hard as hell to find something without spending an hour.
Following!
There are over 2000 pages here. What pages are the flight logs on?
Around the 450 mark EDIT 463
Need a TLDR summary of the islanders
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Damn this is the day of reckoning, watch out for aloens
This seems like a move superceeding the current elected gov't, considering there was no official statemenr from the white house in it. I can't imagine Biden camp doing anything about this case tbh. it is not in the presideny's interest to persecute cartel clients due to personal family reasons.
The flight logs scans start on page 464, Exhibit BB. Very interesting names in there.
Seriously speaking, this guy and his people makes me remember the Morden character from the Babylon 5 series.
He didn't just offered his services, he constantly tried to lure people into their stuff, until they agree.
Of course, there were a lot of influential people who already were on this stuff, or agree without remorse.
So many spelling mistakes
More compact formats:
txt, 1.4mb txt, temp mirror [minimized pdf] - TBA [epub] - TBA, if conversion works
These are words to help this post move.
bing chat gpt do your thingi
Bruh
Any surprises?
No.
What it say?
I wonder how bad the train derailment was now Or If today’s the day it all ends
Anyone who went through this know where the list of names is?
496 Ronald Weasley
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hello
Disappointing. It mentions several prominent individuals but only names a few from what I can see. Please post if somebody finds a list throughout this.
i was here
How do I download it?
tHiS wIlL bE bUrIeD!!111q11!
Commenting for the culture
It will be interesting to see how much media coverage this gets
sorry for the stupid question, but is this document not the exact same one that was released in 2019 ? the file size is also the same. i could be dead wrong about it, but it crossed my mind so i wanted to ask this here as well.
Don’t know about y’all, but I’m pretty excited to see how realistic these holographic UFO’s look.
May all these disgusting acting pedophiles rot in jail for the rest of their miserable lives.
Anybody saw the name Kenneth "Ken" Cordelle Griffin in the pages?
Why are there so many typos? Lol
Has anyone checked to see if there are any connection between Norfolk Southern rail company and Epstein, or anything related in the docs?
shitty thing is nothing will happen. this is evidence they went somewhere, not that they did something. true, it does increase the likelihood that they went there and did some unspeakable acts, but there's not evidence of it. so nothing will happen.
Nice.
Is there some sort of community spreadsheet where those that found something interesting could summarize it and also put a reference to the page they found it on?
Which page is Frank Reynolds on?
Prince Andrew was getting overtime in
Big scandal involving tons of famous celebrities? Mainstream news will surely cover this!!
So
You guys think anyone will get in trouble?
What are the chances that these documents are unchanged?
Like no one was scratched off this list?
After all, they had these docs for some time.
The "elites": NUKE RUSSIA
I cant find this on a single news source. covering my bases. How do we know this is real?
Nothing will happen
Comment for visibility
Ok let’s get this to the top
Is that all one plane?
Nevermind that. Look at these UFOs over here!
I wonder how many news sites will report on this..
Nothing will happen. This isn't meant to expose its meant to advertise, to gloat, to parade themselves.
What page has the juice tho
Genuine question, not trying to be a smart ass or anything. I am ignorant to this all as it disgusted me too much to even learn about it.. but do these names confirm the pedophilia? Or are they just a list of who visited? Is it kind of a "walks like a duck/quacks like a duck " thing?
Obviously there is much grey area. Could be just people on a flight or maybe people doing terrible things. We likely will never know for sure. Correlation or proximity doesn't tell us everything.
Appreciate the sincere reply!
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What page is Akon on?
Most of the pages listed in this thread with names are gibberish, am I missing something?
So how many of those people were sued for rape? Before the accuser was paid off? One name comes to mind.
Any Foreign Leaders, prime ministers, etc on the list?
I am guessing most of the people in this sub are gonna focus in on UK royals or the likes of the Clintons, while completely ignoring the rest.
This shit ain’t shit. You must get Dough on lawn clippings Jack.
On almost every page around 622, there is a Ms Schultz that keeps saying "Object to form" to pretty much everything. I assume it's an objection, based on a google search, but I still don't understand. She says it ALL THE TIME. How does it have any meaning if she keeps saying it and I don't see anywhere that the judge or anyone else reacts to her saying it?
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Wild times about to get wilder. BIG UPS
Somewhere there are people in meetings about how to suppress that
and this is why we had a shooting last night
So in this subreddit, I’m often told that something is a distraction for something else.
For example, balloons were a distraction from Pfizer/Covid, and Pfizer/Covid was a distraction from Epstein.
I also get told that the government always lies an can never be trusted.
Now that we have some Epstein info released by the government, what’s it a distraction from, is it full of lies, and can it be trusted?
Many Nickelodeon and other child charity COE's on the list no?
Shooting at Michigan state. Found your distraction.
You know how people change profile pictures for BLM, stand by Ukraine, the black screen , the rainbow colour and the I got vaxxed profile picture. Why aren't we profile picturing these guys name. Why can't we all start it.
Has any mainstream media discussed this?
There’s going to be little green men…or anthrax… in those balloons to bury this story
If John Roberts is Chief Justice Roberts then that explains his strange left-wing rulings. They got him on video with a girl or boy and blackmailed the fuck out of him.
really? so any rulings not to your conservative liking is due to blackmail? it must be pretty black & white in your mind. guess Roberts doesn't completely rule by hate - good for him!
I'm in awe of their level of stupidity
Following!
Feel like JE had a contingency plan just for this scenario. These Flight logs are telling...
Are these files the actual distraction?
Around the mid 1400s are a lot of memos with redaction
Why isnt this released on any news outlet websites or press or anywhere?
Any interesting names???
We knew we would see the redacted version the ones with the most to lose won't be on there plus who's going to arrest and try them it's from the top to the bottom of every branch of global politics, Hollywood, A -list singer's sports this will COLLAPSE this nation. WHEN DO WE THE PEOPLE DO SOMETHING
As the great George Carlin once said "It's a big club and you ain't in it".
In this case the "Big Pedo Club". 🤨
YO!
If you're going to read it, open up a google sheet and record the relevant name and the date at least!
This way we can easily cross reference later and figure out who was there at the same time, etc.
OP didn’t kill himself
DONT LOOK UP ONLY AMERICAN VERSION OF CHERNOBYL & UFO'S
Release the Kraken hahahaha
Is that downtown Julie Brown?
This is from the Insider and was released in 2019. Someone's being duped by this supposed "release." Don't let it be you.
Page 604 is upside down
why are many pages omitted, and out of order in the testimonies?
and not a word in German media outlets lmao
Sold some of not all
Prince Andrew, p. 37.
Pretty sure there was a web site that had the names in his book and you could search for names/phones/addresses.
Can now the named people be indicted? Taken to court?
Click on the article and search for “Clinton”. It’s comes up several times.
On which page does it start naming names???
What’s up with the tabloid websites included as evidence? Maybe I just don’t know wtf I’m looking at
Everyone who's name appears on the list should be used as Christmas decorations on the lampposts across this great country
Always knew Walter Cronkite was a pedo.
Only the least important will be prosecuted, if any, if the list even has the untouchable on it.
What is Exhibit BB? Is that equivalent to a lobby security sign in sheet?
How do you know they're the real documents?
Wow this is crazy
No one is protecting anyone on this list. The only people being protected are the ones who funded Epstein. The CIA.
Ohh did we lose 7 trillion? Where did that go exactly….
Oh look, another UFO. Aliens are running all over the place with laser guns. They brought Elvis with them too.
Anyone else receiving ban threats from other subs because you're commenting/supporting this thread?
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